have paid significant cash to receive a minimal return in enjoyment.
If the PSE is not GFE plus something, I am not interested. I yearn for a true GFE experience. There have been some ladies (who will remain nameless here) who have offered and agreed to perform more athletic or adventuresome acts or in a non-traditional setting.
For example, normal love making usually does not have the girl lying on her back on a massage table while you thrust in/out of her mouth in oral delights. Another example would be a facial where you squirt all over her face as she tries to catch every drop with her tongue, licks her fingers after she catches drips that were about to roll off her face, etc.
Depends on my mood and how the session goes to whether I'm looking for a PSE finish.
There have been many threads devoted here and on Newbies board to the difference between PSE v. GFE. No consensus ever emerges.
In correspondence here with a new provider who advertises herself as PSE, I inquired her thoughts to know what to expect and she offered me the following definition:
"PSE is straight sex without the intimate part." For her, that means no kissing at all.
But wait, there's more: "Nothing bareback" -originally I took this to mean for intercourse (and of course I wouldn't want that anyway) but its for everything, including BJ and HJ. She claims "PSE has nothing to do with CIM, Facials, etc..That is what guys have tried to make it be."
I understand everyone has their own limits. And no provider should ever be made to feel compelled to do anything beyond their comfort zone. I get that. But if someone advertises as PSE, even if not everyone agrees on exactly what that means, I think there are certain expectations. And never would I have thought it meant covered everything and no intimacy.
So is she right? Are the acts "defining" PSE something that "guys have tried to make it be" all about? Do none of the providers here consider at least certain acts to be part of PSE?
And would anyone consider her definition of PSE reasonable?
I think when a guy sees a girl advertising themselves as PSE they are expect to act out the"exotic" things they see in porn. What she is talking about just sounds like a stale time.
the providers I know or know of who use the term PSE to refer to themselves are GFE and then some. Greek and CIM are typical. The experience is usually "athletic" as it were.
But again, as an advertising term used by a provider it means no more than advertising terms like
New and improved! Longer lasting! Best Selling! Guaranteed or your money back! We will not be undersold!
IMHO, this is false advertizing... except that she told you what SHE means by it.
In the commonly used scale PSE exceeds GFE... perhaps more athletic as one suggested but also more menu, NOT less. PSE means we replace the actors with ourselves & the lady & find out what the experience is like. I've yet to see a porn that looks like that. This is not "what guys have tried to make it". Turn on the flat screen & stick in the DVD!
SHE's the one trying to make "PSE into something else." What you have found is a girl who wants the cash but doesn't want to perform.
Good catch. One less guy who shows up expecting a real experience & gets considerably less after the donation is made. skb
Well everyone has their own take on the terms and actually when I first started playing, a PSE could very well mean a less GFE session. Some GFE items may not be available in PSE such as meaningful kissing or the illusion of a romantic connection. PSE did mean it was more about fucking the living shit out of you.
As we all know it is up to each girl whether things are covered or not and what is on or off the menu.
I will only see PSE types if their reviews describe a GFE and PSE combined along with a very full menu.
I don't necessarily believe PSE means more than GFE. To me, they are two separate types of encounters that may or may not include the same "menu" items. I see GFE as being a more sensual encounter. For me in GFE, the provider should recieve just as much enjoyment as does the client. It is like a date-- seduction, kissing, intimacy and affection. PSE should be a session just like a porn flick. Sure, the menu items might be the same, but the bottom line is pure fucking, BJ, anal or whatever. The focus isn't on both. It is more on the client fulfilling his fantasy. To a degree, a true PSE session should be one in which the client is not only the "actor" but also the director. I had a session a few months ago that was probably PSE. I was with 2 providers and I essentially directed the whole session to include when I came, where I cam and with whom I came. I also directed how I wanted the two girls to perform on each other. It zero elements of a GFE session, but it definitely was like a scene or two out of a porno.
have paid significant cash to receive a minimal return in enjoyment.
If the PSE is not GFE plus something, I am not interested. I yearn for a true GFE experience. There have been some ladies (who will remain nameless here) who have offered and agreed to perform more athletic or adventuresome acts or in a non-traditional setting.
For example, normal love making usually does not have the girl lying on her back on a massage table while you thrust in/out of her mouth in oral delights. Another example would be a facial where you squirt all over her face as she tries to catch every drop with her tongue, licks her fingers after she catches drips that were about to roll off her face, etc.
Depends on my mood and how the session goes to whether I'm looking for a PSE finish.
So if a provider advertises a PSE, in my mind it should mean that she is a PS, or have at least have appeared in some porn. Otherwise, what do you call a provider that has been in a video? A TPSE or RPSE (as in 'true' or 'real'?)? There are many of them out there working, so I suppose they deserve their own acronym.
Anyway, who wants a PSE? Having been on a porn set, it's the last thing I would want. I know, everyone wants the fantasy they see in the film, not the reality that goes into making it. But seeing that the world of porn offers every kind of sex imaginable, what does PSE mean? Nothing, really. I think GFE is much more definable - a level of personal intimacy as opposed to straight sex.
Perhaps a better acronym for those who offer all the 'bells & whistles' would be FNE - "Freaky Nympho Experience".
There are pornstars that do anal and others who dont, some kiss and others don't, some shoot with black others don't. so before you book a meeting with a pornstar make sure you watch some of her videos because she might not do what you are looking for..the PSE is a loose term and does not necessarily mean a full menu.
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