and do women really want this? I'm sure all providers meet assholes on the clock and irl. I'll admit I've been a dick and did some things I probably shouldn't have. But I'm really a nice guy and have always been given a pass.

Should guys be trained to treat women better or is it just expected?

...having males "treat women better"  would be "pussifying" them?  

*smdh*

... it always sounds so BDSMish.

one of the biggest idiots on the P&R Board. He continually embarrasses himself there but feels the need to come here and embarrass himself further.  I think he's a masochist.

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Uh, haven't you noticed that the vast majority of famous guys being outed have been sanctimonious virtue signaling liberals? Each and every one of  whom could and would give you a self-righteous lecture on third wave feminism.

More of the same palaver is just going to get the same result -- new crop of hypocrites.

it seems like alot of women are attracted to aggressive males.......

He just made you look like an ass.

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Yeah, liberals are sanctimonious like Judge Roy Moore.  Thanks for the analogy.

Oh, just fuck off with this.

Its in the national spotlight and lots of people are pushing gender-neutrality. I'm asking if we should we should raise boys like girls? Girls like boys? Did you read the article?  

It's ok if you don't have an opinion. Everybody gets a trophy.

That article isn't about "pussyfying" ( that's a disgusting term)  , it's about being honest about who we are and standing up and calling out a prick before he does something hurtful to women.  

If you are a prick, which it sounds like you are, you should keep  something like this to yourself.

By the way, there are just as many conservative mysoginist arseholes, who are getting caught doing fucked up shit to women and children. They are disappearing  from Fox News  regularly.
There are plenty of self righteous arseholes of all political ideologies.

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"there are just as many conservative mysoginist arseholes"

Are there?  Last count about 70 liberal Hollywood types, sanctimonious liberals to a man, have been outed in the last couple weeks.  Seems to be disproportionately liberal.  

I think that's because people project ... they see their evil in other people.  Liberals are always claiming misogyny and racism -- because that's their own lens.

The conservatives have already made their non disclosure pay offs before this latest round of exposures.

boys like girls to prevent men from treating women badly when they get older.

Every descent person is against violence and abuse toward women. Spare us the high and holy BS.
Perhaps "pussify" was a bit too harsh for the sensitive types like yourself.

Harvey "Liberal Advocate" Weinstein is likely to be charged with rape (if rumors are true.)  Who was the last conservative charged with rape?  Bill O'Reily?  Roger Ailes?   Who?

Just a thought.

I think libs who rape or otherwise sexually harass women are sort of like the "family values" politicians that get caught fucking hookers or doing a "toe tap" in an airport men's room. It just seems somehow worse when they do it, mainly because of their hypocrisy.

 
Personally, I don't think either liberals or conservatives have a monopoly on "bad behavior" or hypocrisy, there is more than enough of both to go around.

Democrats like Anthony Weiner, Elliott Spitzer and others.

That's revisionist.  The late Andrew Breitbart exposed the Weiner and the liberal press was mad at Breitbart, accusing him of lying.  Spitzer got caught in a suspicious money transfer by the feds -- news of which was apparently then leaked to GOP operative Roger Stone.  The NYT only published about it five months later.  

when the Washington Post exposed Democratic Senator Bob Packwood for serial sexual harassment? I could go on but i know you hate to be confused by the facts.
Oh, and what about Gary Hart?  Leading in the race for the Dem Presidential nomination in 1988 until....
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article2185644.html
Now please return to your regularly scheduled fake news.
Dunce (and I'm being kind).

Bob Packwood was a Republican.  But couldn't you pull up something more recent, maybe somebody from the Hoover administration?

Shouldn't this stuff be on the P&R board? This branch of the thread is totally political, and it gets worse the further down you go.

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and pretty sure any well minded folk from either side wouldn't align themselves with the rapists or chomos.

Exactly.

And no matter how you raise someone.... you can't get rid of what they personally like. There is never an exact way to be. People have a right to be happy however they are and how they feel inside.

Lol 👅👿

With both parties. But nice diversion.

I think young men will aways promise to treat women like a princess, but not hesitate to fuck them in the ass as soon as they get drunk.

Some things never change.  Never will.

I have lost track of how many idiot lefties have been claiming for years that it's mainly righties committing these kind of acts.  For every SH who claims it's only lefties doing this you can probably find half a dozen lefties claiming the exact opposite, when in truth people from BOTH sides of the aisle have been doing it.

 
People in power have been fucking people without power since the cave man days. I think it is just one of the reasons people seek power in the first place.

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“Roman Polanski is a loyal friend, important to me, a distinguished director, important to the motion picture industry, and a brave and brilliant man, important to all people.” -- Mia Farrow.

All of Hollywood honored Roman Polanski just a few years ago -- recall he admitted in court o drugging and anally raping a 13 year old.  Yeah, Hollywood (almost exclusively liberal these days) is just fine with anally raping young kids -- if the rapist is a fellow sanctimonious liberal.

I have no interest in having sex with a person so inebriated that they can not make decisions properly.  On more than a few occasions I've driven such a person home, or extricated myself from their premises.

 
The combination of sex and alcohol is often overrated.

why not raise boys to be gentlemen on the street and beasts between the sheets. Girls, ladies on the the street and freaks between the sheets.

Fish said it much more diplomatically than I ever could.  

All you guys that give some excuse for non consensual sex are the problem and should be stayed away from. And the culture gets magnified with guys as we go through our teen years. The mixed message that is given to them
 is what the article is about!  Using language that truly expresses that it's not ok, is what it's about.
The "locker room" justification promotes the actual acts as ok.

Arseholes!

This kind of thing pisses me off so freaking much. I apologize for my broken thought pattern on this one.

I have shown the issue is non-partisan and has been with us from the present example of  Moore going back decades, so of course you need to need to drag up Polanski to prove nothing new.  Harvey Weinstein is a raving liberal and a serial rapist.  Roy Moore is a right-wing pederast.  Do you really have any clue that you have proven nothing new at all?

If women wouldn't cower down in fear, then the playing field would be leveled.  

Personally, I don't believe in half of the sexual allegations; ecspecially those coming out of Hollywood.  

Women have used pussy as promotional currency since the dawn of time. The ones who got the better end of the deal aren't speaking out.  

Funny how actresses want to shout wolf but still make less money than their male counterparts at the end of the day.

Treat people the way you would like to be treated (and pony up the funds agreed to). The 'hobby' is not complicated, not that you would necessarily know that by reading some of the TER boards.

MfSD>>>>

No alcohol for me or my date.  I was speaking of young college age types.

My sex life is strictly p4p, have a wife that won't but still might.  I dropped out of civie dating 35+ years ago and you won't see me going back.