Because its early in the month and rents not due?? Yes. HOARDS of us ladies sit around, paying for ads and hotels, but only taking appointments after the 20th.
I wish you guys would realize how insulting it is to suggest that the responsive girls are only doing so because they're desperate, and the unresponsive ones are borderline scam artists posing as business people, the way y'all are posting about us recently. And the repeated sentiment that we won't get off our asses until something is past due is really getting old. Maybe she didn't want to see you yourself. Maybe she's busy already. Maybe you are the one saying something to cause your emails to go unanswered. Maybe you just really resemble someone who's been blacklisted and they're not double checking. Maybe lots of things. Either way, a girl is not going to sink a grand or so into a 3-4 day trip (yup, that's what it costs!) and then not answer your email because rent isn't due. And to make a blanket statement like that, without it even tying in a little bit to being ignored by multiple providers, is frustrating to see as a girl who has her shit together for the most part, as most of us do on here. And for the record, it's not all that unusual for a girl who is good, and travels to an area regularly, to book up a week or two out. It happened alllll the time with the girls in the agency that I was with, in multiple cities, with a huge variety of girls. And, we all had to work almost twice as much as we actually wanted to in order to break even AND pay rent if nothing crazy came up. So, if it can happen with girls doing double the volume of a typical Indy, what makes you doubt that she could possibly be happy with her trip already? If a girl doesn't email you back, get. Over. It. Worse has and will happen, no need to come on here and pretend we ladies can't see what you say. I was really nice on the newbie board today. It almost counts for something.Okay... First let me say thank you to all you wonderful ladies who do in fact respond to appointment requests in a timely manner. You will be rewarded with my business.
Now... For the rest of you, who don't seem to have a clue about how to run a business then cry because no one comes to see you. News flash... Answer your damn email... I have had a rash of requests go unanswered recently and I know it is not me. Have always done what has worked in the past two years I have been in this game. You want to know what I do when I do not get a request answered in 24 hours? I put you on my do not see list and move on. P411 has this great feature where I can exclude you from my ever having to look at you again.
I mean really, with today's technology, you can put your email on out of office when you are on vacation or not taking appointments. If you don't want to see me, I can respect that but at least have the courtesy to respond and tell me no. I know I am asking a lot, but if you can't take the time to respond, I don't want to see you.
Okay... I feel better now.
Maybe you aren't submitting all of the required screening information on the first request, so they don't even bother replying.
You didn't give us enough information. You just said that you've been doing what worked for you for the past two years.
Each lady is different with her screening, so you'll have to adjust to her and adapt.
Not a provider, but I can imagine that they get tons of requests and when all of the information isn't included in the first email, they just delete it and go on to someone who has all of the information ready.
Now... For the rest of you, who don't seem to have a clue about how to run a business then cry because no one comes to see you. News flash... Answer your damn email... I have had a rash of requests go unanswered recently and I know it is not me. Have always done what has worked in the past two years I have been in this game. You want to know what I do when I do not get a request answered in 24 hours? I put you on my do not see list and move on. P411 has this great feature where I can exclude you from my ever having to look at you again.
I mean really, with today's technology, you can put your email on out of office when you are on vacation or not taking appointments. If you don't want to see me, I can respect that but at least have the courtesy to respond and tell me no. I know I am asking a lot, but if you can't take the time to respond, I don't want to see you.
Okay... I feel better now.
Thank you... I pretty much use p411 exclusively and always include a nice note with my request. I have double digit okays by some very reputable providers. I am not going to run to Gina and complain, it is just not worth it. As I said, I just exclude those ladies from showing in my search results. If they are that bad at managing their business, then we probably will not be compatible. Just needed to vent...
You could try contacting her another way. For example via phone (if available), PM on this site (if she has reviews linked) or a direct email to her email address rather than a request on p411. If the lady doesn't reply to that, then at least you tried and know that you two won't be compatible.
Ooh I just saw this, and would have to agree. If a lady doesnt respond to you within the time you require, then already you are upset, and its true that odds are you wont be compatible.
Now if a lady *never* responds, like its been a week or so, and you know shes not out of town or left the country or something (it happens!) then definitely do report it, because we are all supposed to respond to P411 messages.
even when i was ill, off for 2 weeks, i replied to every email, and call. I just said I was out, I would be back this day.. etc...
I was not doing much else in my hospital bed, so yeah I responded! it at least tells them that they matter, and if i had ignored them for 2 weeks, I would have a lot of ticked off guys who may never contact me again..
we cannot tell what you getting is normal or not..
Remember, providers get a shit load of emails. And if those guys are anything like Dungy, Tucky, SingleDigitIQ, Udo et al, you can't blame them for downright ignoring them...
My success rate of getting back timely responses is about 80-85%...Of course, I research the girls thoroughly and PM guys who have seen them for their opinions.
I do agree with your statement though, that if you don't get timely responses, they don't deserve your business, but at the same time there is a lot of responsibility on your backs to appear professional and response-worthy.
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Sometimes it takes time to get back to an email.
Next time. If you are nice. She may give you a number that is way more reliable.
If you pass her screening.
Just asking..
Do you realize by saying "Rewarded with my business." makes you look like a dick?
Oh my! Well, I suppose something must have happened to really tick you off! I can understand if you are really looking to book a date with someone and they dont respond right away, it can be off putting. But its good to at least give a lady a chance rather than DNS and block her if she doesnt respond within 24 hours!
It really could be anything, from that she has many emails to reply to, traveling, or on a date. And me personally, when Im on a date I dont spend it replying to emails and setting up other dates, whether its a 1hr or a weekend date, I dont do business while with someone else...most guys would hate that! For sure though, while a 24h turnaround time is ideal, its not always possible. Not all ladies have the time to be able to immediately respond, and beyond that, cant always drop whatever is going on in their lives to immediately respond.
For a lady to do her own booking and screening and the time on dates, plus of course personal life and many have jobs outside of this as well, and that some guys have the expectation that all emails should be responded to right away regardless, is kind of the reason many end up getting a personal assistant. So there is a trade off.
I dont have an assistant, and personally, I feel accomplished if I manage to get my inbox under 50 emails by the end of the day lol for every one email I send out, I often get back 2 or 3 back to back from the same person. So I really appreciate when a guy is patient to hear back, and I extend the same courtesy to him, because I understand he has a home and professional life and dont really expect him to make me his priority above that.
It sounds like you've been contacting them through P411's "Request an Appointment" form. I find that sometimes girls don't check in at P411 that often, so perhaps you'd be wise to check her ad or web site to see what her preferred means of contact is for a first date. I know one gal who you really need to call, especially when she's on the road. Gals have preferences. None of which excuses the dysfunctional ones who don't know how to run their business.
And, may I say, despite your disappointment you are looking good
1) Open Google.
2) Type "Senator Blutarsky" into task bar.
3) Find desired picture and right click to chose "copy image URL."
4) Go to "picture URL" posting page and copy image URL into box. Then post.
Even The Dungbeetle can do it!
It's as simple as that
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But a Starship Captain as well
Now... For the rest of you, who don't seem to have a clue about how to run a business then cry because no one comes to see you. News flash... Answer your damn email... I have had a rash of requests go unanswered recently and I know it is not me. Have always done what has worked in the past two years I have been in this game. You want to know what I do when I do not get a request answered in 24 hours? I put you on my do not see list and move on. P411 has this great feature where I can exclude you from my ever having to look at you again.
I mean really, with today's technology, you can put your email on out of office when you are on vacation or not taking appointments. If you don't want to see me, I can respect that but at least have the courtesy to respond and tell me no. I know I am asking a lot, but if you can't take the time to respond, I don't want to see you.
Okay... I feel better now.
I did away with "at your fingertips technology" when I stopped touring and cut back on my volume, but I was known as the "1 hour or less response time" girl....that went for references as well. It was a curse because regardless of how many other women the guy had seen, I was the ONLY one he would use for a reference knowing I would respond asap.
All I can tell you, is high volume providers have no need to be timely unless they are also high volume crack heads.
They know that money will be made up whenever they feel like getting off their ass and returning an email or phone call. Women who only do this part time, seem to know better and not take appts. for granted. I am sorry for your experience, but best of luck in contacting those who have business sense, and a bit of common courtesy. Even when a guy is an ass hat, I still respond with something rude, but witty lol.
I am sorry, but 24 hours? Please. If a guy emails you the night before for a 2 o'clock appt. the following day, you just lost it by taking that long to respond. Guys have every right to do what they want. If they don't want to wait even 3 hours for a response, they are free to contact someone else. Just the way it is. I am usually the one pissed that the client takes too long to respond back to my response ha ha.
If you don't want to do same day or last minute appts. then say so, but don't just suck at business. It's really not rocket science.
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I only want to meet with those i'm compatible with & thats patient men. Since I don't do same day appts it's never a issue of responding right away, which is what i prefer b/c this work is a side gig, and afterthought,,,something i'll get to when i get to it & I strategically make sure i only see guys who understand that....so when I receive an email and the guy is pressing me to get back to him, I won't. If this was my main focus, i'd respond sooner, but since its not, i prefer clients who understand there are only so many hrs in a day But you're in luck b/c there are lots of escorts not like me lol
So my point.........is there are different communication approaches and it's good u seek those who are compatible b/c others that aren't may not want to be on your to do list anyway or they have real life going on that's more important than this "business" and someone elses timeline......
There are other reasons too why a lady might reply in 24 hrs.....too many to mention....
And u might not get a response when someone's not interested & i wouldn't expect it. Plenty of us have tried that common courtesy and it turned into the guy sending nasty emails or causing other drama b/c a girl's not interested. No thx
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This.
There's so much going on in everyone's lives that I think it's a little missing the forest for the trees to block a girl once your cock softens a little. No it is not the most professional thing, but seriously. 24 hours man! You've never gone on vacation or a work trip or just forgotten to turn the coffee pot off?
Have you thought about doing a brief introduction of yourself? There are ways that you can emphasize how important being prompt is to you, without coming off like a total jerk, and would actually attract exactly the kind of lady you're looking for. So, maybe she's super packed with stuff today, but she'll likely glance at her email at some point. If you make the effort, she might think you two will get along really well, And jump on your email in your 24 hour time frame, making sure you don't miss out on each other, rather than pushing it off til later after the kids are in bed, or in the morning before class.
So my point.........is there are different communication approaches and it's good u seek those who are compatible b/c others that aren't may not want to be on your to do list anyway or they have real life going on that's more important than this "business" and someone elses timeline......
There are other reasons too why a lady might reply in 24 hrs.....too many to mention....
And u might not get a response when someone's not interested & i wouldn't expect it. Plenty of us have tried that common courtesy and it turned into the guy sending nasty emails or causing other drama b/c a girl's not interested. No thx
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I am not saying you don't have a RIGHT to do what you want, but saying that because this is not your main job somehow excuses you, is bs. MANY of us do this only part time and only do extended dates...means nothing in regards to how fast we respond. I know women with a full time job and 3 children, who still respond in less than 12 hours. NO ONE is 'that busy' to take 10 seconds to reply...no one, unless she is a freaking actress or porn star on set all damn day...even those women have the common sense to let someone else handle their screening.
You can respond from a blackberry or iphone any time, anywhere, including at work, in class, or in the damn bathroom. It takes less than a minute to hit reply and say, "I am at work and not able to talk right now, will get back to you after 5 pm." This is why I screen for so many providers...they don't WANT to do it...it is not that they can't.
Even when I was in grad school full time, I also ran an agency and worked as London Rayne. That was 3 different things I had going on all at once, and I had a toddler too! It never took me more than 2 hours to respond...ever. It's called knowing how to run a business, and has nothing to do with what you attract. Fast response times in no way indicate that the guy is the one pressuring you to do so...it is simply a common courtesy when you run any business to not keep potential clients waiting. I am not saying you have to see them, but how hard is it to take 10 seconds to reply?
It is not a bad thing that a guy wants to see you tomorrow...it's simply his availability. Unless your website specifically says, "I need 3 days notice," how are they to even know? That's not the same thing as him expecting you to do a last minute appt. and getting pissed when you don't respond...I don't respond to that shit either, because it is said over and over again, I do not do that!
He is simply emailing you to find out if it is possible to see you the next day. A simple "No, I am not available" is not such an imposition. The OP is giving these ladies 2 WEEKS lead time, not 2 days! If they are booked, or not interested, why not take 10 seconds to simply say so? I am sorry, but I agree with the Senator on this one, because I have dealt with clients who do the very same thing, and it enrages me! They ask for an appt. on Thursday, and don't get back to me til 3 hours before the time of the appt. as if I am just going to be ready! Even when I can't see a guy, I always suggest 2 other ladies in my area who might want or need that money. Guess that's what business school lends to.
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I'm no longer interested. I get to my inbox when I can and/or so choose. This is my personal approach & I'm sure that when this is a real priority again, I'll approach communication differently.
As far as responding when I'm not *interested* like I said, I don't based on my experience. "I'm not available" doesn't always work in this case, b/c some will follow up w/ "then can we meet the next day?" I'd rather not keep lying about availability and I won't tell the truth "I'm not interested" b/c some can't take rejection and create drama, so I don't respond in that scenario. Now if I'm really not *available*, then yes I'd respond w/ "I'm not available, but I'd love to meet another time. Does Tuesday work for you?"
To your last point, I went to school and work in the business world, but business or not, if a lady doesn't have a network of ladies to recommend, emailing a recommendation is NEVER gonna happen. If I could, I would but can't! It's nice that you can and do.
But back to the girls in question. Yes, he did give TWO WEEKS lead time, so maybe the ladies (assuming they don't have or want screeners) are prioritizing their email contacts and screening/confirming/seeing the men who want dates NOW or within the next few days. If there's two wks notice & they respond after a few days, that's still TEN days before the appointment and if he can't wait that long, which is understandable, he should just move on.....no need to rant..........there are so many other fish in the sea to be worried about a lady's communication style/approach/circumstances.
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please disregard. thx! ![]()
For all of you who were worried that all work and no play was making the Senator a little overbearing... All is well... Two play dates scheduled within the next week. And no, they are not with the ladies who set me off yesterday. I do apologize for losing it.
For what it's worth, some additional info...
1. All were traveling ladies who had paid to put up ads on p411
2. All were well reviewed here on TER with an average rating between 8 and 9.
3. Initial requests were sent through p411, which sends an email notification to the ladies with all the info. In the past I have had some respond directly from these without signing onto p411.
4. After not hearing back after a few days, sent a polite email directly to the ladies asking if they had seen the appointment request. I asked if they were available at such and such a time during their visit and that I was looking forward to hearing from them. All are one to two weeks out, so giving plenty of notice and I doubt their dance card is already full.
5. All have signed onto p411 since the request and follow up
6. None have viewed my p411 profile (another pet peeve of mine)
7. This is pure speculation on my part, but it is early in the month and the rent isn't due for a few more weeks.
All of this leads me to conclude that they really did not want to see me, which is okay. I expect this to happen from time to time, but when it happened three times in a row, it kind of ticked me off.
Anyway, Sawyer Brown said it best. "Some girls do not like boys like me..ah, but some girls do"
Because its early in the month and rents not due?? Yes. HOARDS of us ladies sit around, paying for ads and hotels, but only taking appointments after the 20th.
I wish you guys would realize how insulting it is to suggest that the responsive girls are only doing so because they're desperate, and the unresponsive ones are borderline scam artists posing as business people, the way y'all are posting about us recently. And the repeated sentiment that we won't get off our asses until something is past due is really getting old. Maybe she didn't want to see you yourself. Maybe she's busy already. Maybe you are the one saying something to cause your emails to go unanswered. Maybe you just really resemble someone who's been blacklisted and they're not double checking.
Maybe lots of things.
Either way, a girl is not going to sink a grand or so into a 3-4 day trip (yup, that's what it costs!) and then not answer your email because rent isn't due. And to make a blanket statement like that, without it even tying in a little bit to being ignored by multiple providers, is frustrating to see as a girl who has her shit together for the most part, as most of us do on here.
And for the record, it's not all that unusual for a girl who is good, and travels to an area regularly, to book up a week or two out. It happened alllll the time with the girls in the agency that I was with, in multiple cities, with a huge variety of girls. And, we all had to work almost twice as much as we actually wanted to in order to break even AND pay rent if nothing crazy came up. So, if it can happen with girls doing double the volume of a typical Indy, what makes you doubt that she could possibly be happy with her trip already?
If a girl doesn't email you back, get. Over. It. Worse has and will happen, no need to come on here and pretend we ladies can't see what you say.
I was really nice on the newbie board today. It almost counts for something.
Clients have A RIGHT to expect professionalism from someone who calls themselves a professional. OTOH, providers have A RIGHT to not respond to anyone they don't want to, and lose that money. It really is just that simple. His rant is justified, like it or not. This is not an isolated case with ONE provider, but a pattern and his statement about "rent being due" is also justified for many.
Most of my FBSM girls only work when they want to, and they increase their volume the last week of the month. I have ran agencies for 10 years, and this is a common trend. I go weeks where I only have 1 or 2 girls working and tons of clients, then I have 10 girls working and not enough clients.
If this is only a part time gig, then that woman should have MORE TIME to respond lol. As if. I see 2 guys a WEEK, on average and spend my days on TER whilst tanning on my deck. Even when I get a 9-5, I am still going to respond to London Rayne's clients in less than 2 hours. It is not costing me a damn thing to do so, but is is costing me if I don't. I guess if I were only losing 2 or 3 hundred, might not matter but to lose 700? I think not.
else's lives to say they should respond if others can. I just never worry about what anyone else is doing, really. For me, my regulars are enough and are responded to right away, they matter and bring that $700 or more.......but every women is different. So the OP should just move on b/c there are a lot of women who want his money, even if some are indifferent or can't get to his email.......whatever the reason!
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I agree with all of that, and my ONLY point was that is simply not a valid excuse. If you are like me and don't WANT to do something, hey no problemo lol. I just don't make excuses for why I can't do something, knowing I simply don't want to do it. I have flat out told guys, "I don't think we are a match," then ignored any following replies. Some, I have told outright to "fk off" lol.
Don't misunderstand...I am not telling your or anyone else how they should run their business...just saying to keep the shit real. I know surgeons who are on for 36 hours straight, and still have to take a piss which is when they respond to emails.
couldn't do it.....I'd be taking meditation breaks throughout the day while ignoring my emails until I was ready lol....and folks would be complaining about why I didn't respond to their emails soon. One day, I promise............in due time...................................................................
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The additional info is worth a lot actually... I appreciate the follow-up!
I got the impression from your first message that you give a 24 hr time limit then block and move on, but this adds more depth to the situation! That you waited a few days and even sent a follow-up email, I think was plenty opportunity for them to get back to you. Add to it that they have signed on P411 since then, they are deliberately ignoring you... esp on P411 where we are required to respond to all emails, all it would take is a courtesy note to say they prefer not to meet instead of making you wait for a message they didnt intend to ever send.
Anyway, good to hear that you were able to get other dates lined up...alls well that ends well!
Those that you are talking about are not going to change and you only piss off those who do by this rant. It will change nothing. Move on.
