What do you do when there is a lady you might be interested in, and you don't particularly want to pay her asking price?
I know some people will say negotiate, and some people will say not to negotiate. Normally, I just move on. What do you do?If the provider did not make it clear on her donation request,
IE... "Ask or Contact me"
If her response is over my max price (400.00)
I would let her know by responding that just to close the deal.
I have had some then come back and accept my (max amount)
Most don'
Your max price is 400 yet you have seen providers with rates over 400 from checking your reviews. What does that mean?
Well,
It means I recently applied a new rule to myself since this hobby is
a fucking addiction.
I began to hobby weekly and sometimes twice a week.
I thought to myself, well I should either establish a max or hobby less.
I chose not to hobby less.
Mmmmmmmm K!
If I don't want to pay her price, it's a simple choice for me. I DON'T.
but neither am I going to tell her she's not worth what she is charging. I really don't see how a conversation that starts off that way is going to end up going very well.
I have to think that, after having haggled on rate, the provider isn't going to be able to get that out of her mind. Whenever I've been forced to accept a lower price, I've resented it and it always affected my outlook on that person.
At least according to my professor at JDU.
I remember that from Economic 101 in college. Or was it Physics?...
having a good time with her if we start in negotiation..
Once I was with a girl.. she asked if I wanted Greek.. then told me it would be another $100.. OK.. so I'm in the middle of her CG on me. and I have to stop and think whether I have $100 in my wallet .. a real buzz kill.. so this is sort of the same thing.. I couldn't really look a girl in the eye or anywhere else if I got her to drop her rates..
Too high.. and I move on.. I set a max in my head (but I will break it every now & again) and I won't go higher.. You have to accept that there are some girls you will never see.. that's life..
I recently changed my price range, raising it to another level and class of provider...I did this because the girls in the range I was working in started becoming drama issues...this of course has affected my budgeting and scheduling of dates but the improved experience makes it worth it...
If there was a certain girl now that I wanted to see I would take the time to save up for her...
You are about to learn an expensive lesson.
If he was seeing $100 gals and went up to $200. There is definitely differences in drama, looks, and performance, in those low ranges as you move up. However I think once you reach a certain level (and that level depends on the area) more money just means more money.
after a while extra money is just what the girl is trying to squeeze out of the free market.
i can get 3 fantastic sessions with 3 different women here in los angeles for less than the median price. i've found usually (not always but usually) that a higher price point doesn't guarantee better service or experience...and many times the exact opposite!!
I'll have to look into it.
Low ball the shit out of her and then work your way up..You'd probably want some OTC at the local buffet too..lol
I don't think going back and forth about rates over the phone or in e-mail is good thing, You will find that most do not even like to discuss rates for service. Another thing is it just isn't the way to go when looking for a date. There are so many reasons to name but I say move on and find someone where the price isn't an issue.
Happy Sunday
I think it's like anything in life: there are always going to be things you want and can't afford.
If you wanted to buy a Mercedes but had the money for a Ford is the MB dealer going to drop his price because you want him to? Not hardly, pilgrim.
But I liked the question because I think we all consider it from time to time
I am a horrible negotiator (just don't like haggling) AND since this is the ultimate service industry, the provider may begrudgingly accept a lower fee and that may translate into a less than stellar experience.
I know some people will say negotiate, and some people will say not to negotiate.
Normally, I just move on.
What do you do?
but if I've asked her for her rate, I think she deserves the straight answer. I think I'd let her know that as much as I'd love to see her, her rate exceeds my budgeted $400. I don't think it's "negociating" per say to that. I would never ask her to lower her rate but she might decide to make an offer.
The problem is if I see her rates here on TER or somewhere, I probably would not ask her at all.
This might be a little different but
I wanted to see one specific provider for a very particular reason very early in my joining this underground world. I wrote her an email saying that I was going to need a month and a half to save as I didn't have her donation along with the reason why it was important that I spend an hour with her. I had every intention of paying her full fee but I wanted to let her know I existed. Didn't ask for a discount wasn't trying to negotiate with her. She was new to the business had two reviews at that time when I saw her and I was honest and open with her. She came back and said my email meant the world to her, could I give her a call on her home telephone when I called we talked for ten minutes and she ended the conversation with she would see me for what I had at her home the following day. Which was a fraction of her normal fee. She choose to see me when I had nothing. I don't think I had a reference at that time. I will not divulge her name. She is now one of the best providers in the USA. She is based in NYC but travels and has a large fan base.
Needless to say it was one of the best sessions I have had. She grandfathered me into the rate that I paid. I see this girl monthly. She keeps me around when she can see the top CEO Doctors and Lawyers because she likes remembering her roots. Needless to say she was the best thing that I found before I knew what TER was.
I won't negotiate with anyone I will usually pass if I can't afford the experience but this thread reminded me of my beginning. I would love to do a dinner session and a sex marathon with one or two beauties but I can't afford to blow thousands of dollars when I just don't have it. I know what I can and can't do and I stay true to who I am.
Sorry for the ramble. Just thinking of the beginning.
Zak
I know some people will say negotiate, and some people will say not to negotiate.
Normally, I just move on.
What do you do?
Well played sir! Kudos!
An old but a very underused negotiating strategy.
I am proud to say you are now accepted back in JD University!
Sasha will be in touch with the dorm and sleeping arrangements.
But shhhhhhhhhhhh about the girl not tanking the session part.
That is a secret we don't share with the outside world. 
I knew you would like that true story.
Excited to be back in the JD program.
I think I fucked Sasha once or twice. It might be time for a new assistant for you.
Zak
An old but a very underused negotiating strategy.
I am proud to say you are now accepted back in JD University!
Sasha will be in touch with the dorm and sleeping arrangements.
But shhhhhhhhhhhh about the girl not tanking the session part.
That is a secret we don't share with the outside world.
I can't wait to read the review of the three of you. LOL
You, Sash and Mr Johnson. 
You, Sash and Mr Johnson.
Based upon almost all of the responses to this post, sounds like most hobbyists DO seek chemistry and rapport during an appointment.
Yes, sounds counterintuitive, but many posts to this forum, from, out in left field hobbyists, do express a viewpoint very far removed. Like, all they need to do is stick it in the keyhole of the door and get off, and they would be happy. Of course with a little enticement added in.
Personally, I DO seek a connection and establishing a solid rapport when frequenting a provider. Hence, I NEVER even mention the "donation." I already know what is required and simply place the donation in the provider's location of choice. Over and done.
IMHO this is the first step in establishing mutual chemistry if it is actually going to happen in any given appointment
I'd give your email a nice bright red label (red being the color of choice for clients to AVOID).
Then, I just wouldn't answer.
Either way, you have your answer, I suppose.
Can possibly hurt, and usually won't help. Why not just wait until you get a bonus, and can pay the extra $100-500?
Doesn't it depend on the circumstance? Would you Scarlett Letter someone that wanted to negotiate an overnite or multi-day appointment, particularly if they told you to disappear except when you were fucking and eating?
I've never had a client book an overnight (or longer), and tell me to get lost except for 'dinner and dessert' and 'breakfast in bed.' But if that's what he wanted (and promised), I might give a discount. IF the client seemed really nice, and IF he had immaculate references and pre-date contact... and IF everything was guaranteed exactly the way you describe (separate rooms, scheduled alone time, etc).
When a client books a longer date (overnite plus) he usually wants to be around me all the time. Literally 24/7. Sleeping intertwined, holding hands as we walk down the street.
I've recently posted about a client who stayed with me for 30 hours (unfortunately, he was duplicitous and paid me nothing aside from my ~30% deposit and hotel fee). My only alone time was when I was in the bathroom. If you browse my posting history over the past few days, you'll see what I mean... since those dates come at a very high cost to my time/energy/sanity, I'd never willingly discount one of those. I'd rather take a pay cut by suggesting a shorter date, or refusing altogether.
I think FV only wanted to book 1-2 hours, though.
Scheduling and availability for starters.
The perspective as was posting from wasn't one of affordability, but willingness to pay.
... see my response to Gagambler.
If you can afford her rate, and are just not willing to pay... then why on earth should she meet you halfway (or anyplace else)?
I mean, I'm not willing to pay more than $50 for a purse (whether or not I can afford it is a loaded question). I confine my purse shopping to eBay, and buy what's available at my price range. I won't walk into the Gucci store on 57th Ave. and expect to do anything other than look.
If she's not busy, and/or really needs money...then, eventually she'll offer a special or reduce her rates. Book her then
The reason why I'm not paying her rate shouldn't matter, should it?
I may pay her once, but I probably won't be a regular.
imo, i consider it an insult to try to negotiate
As is 702touch...
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I personally would not enjoy private time if I would think how hard he worked to make this money.
He possibly saved over bloody sweaty work of his!!
Worked hard and wants to play hard ? While I want elegant relaxing time with a lover.
I can not take his money
from his hungry kids and wife which can't afford a spa or just simple good steak 3 times a week for whole family
And here, let s say "a provider who does take all from him for few a hours?
Too much pressure and not fun
It is why I never will see a gentleman who does feel constrained about his financial means
Same, I think, and for true gentleman - it has to be very
Depressing to go to a provider which in need of your 200 300 n because she is hungry and can't provide her kids?
Is it sexy? And fun?
There are men and women who do believe that staying within own social cultural and financial spheres and play only within like kind - actually only such arrangements do guarantee satisfaction and man feels he spend his money for himself not for her- (of course it is good when he feels as he wants help her ..but again .. not with 300.. if he feels as his 300 make a difference - he possibly be is his fantasy very sorowfull for her life if he is good man.. why he needs to think about that when it is his fantasy time?
We simply never are satisfied if we are not on the place we do belong.
As much as Zak post was sooo touchy and I almost cried for him...it would not feel naturally take his last money or see man who does bellow your style of life.I guess women do not care and 300 as well can make feed her a day or 2 or may be 3? and she would not refuse those money...
But.. most women feel own wortAnd I want have a MAN
to seduce me too. Male..
So I would not feel sorry for him and his family and his life..
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If she is out of my range, she is out of my range. However I do watch ads and if there is a discount or "sale" price offered I may make contact.
If you really feel you must approach a lovely lady out of your budget with a offer...
1) don't make it far off the asked mark and state clearly your budget with rationale for the request
2) approach her with a very well written email including all the necessary details to be taken seriously
3) do include all details for verification without being asked to and if you do not have the traditional information begin to open up your personal info without being ask to
Not saying it will work but it is a chance. If you get no response, move on.
choose to pay her price and see her, or choose not to pay her price and don't see her. Since you framed your question with "I don't want to pay her price"... the choice is yours.
I personally have a price limit in mind, and if a lady is clearly over it, I move on. Every once in a while, I'll make an exception and choose to pay a rate that is higher than I prefer (usually after talking with or in some way getting to know the provider)
If her reviews are great, but her price is a bit more than I want to pay, I'll pay her what she's asking. When I see her on a regular basis then I'm usually able to pay less than her intial price .
there are literally 1000's of amazing ladies at all pricepoints available to all the guys here. I'm certain most guys "don't particularly want to pay ANY ladies asking price" lol but this is a business first. And business is business. I have yet to understand why you would warrant any more thoughts on this matter quite honestly. Maybe think about how you can come up with some more disposable income so you can see the particular lady instead of the latter. There's always money to be made in just about anything if you want something bad enough.
G xo
Still couldn't earn the extra cash, not to mention a rather counterproductive exercise no matter which way you look at it.
pimping yourself lol. Not ladies. I know there are some guys here who think they can sell their goods. Makes me giggle lol. I say go for it.
G xo
In life most things are negotiable.
Provider Deal of the Day
The provider charges 750 for an hour or 1000 for 90 min
I need a pocketbook which cost 580 now and I don't have the money for it. If you buy it for me now I will give you a 90 minute minute session later this week for the bag but the bag needs to be in my possession by 8pm tonight.
This I see often
Isn't this the same thing to a degree?
I have no problem buying the bag but isn't that negotiating on the providers terms.
If so negotiations happen daily on Twitter.
I know some people will say negotiate, and some people will say not to negotiate.
Normally, I just move on.
What do you do?
but that doesn't make it negotiable.
G xo
that's debatable.
ok j/k!
Asking for a deposit is a form of negotiating.
There are too many ho's on the stroll to be THAT GUY đź‘Ť
Ask what her rate is through direct contact and if she responds leave it at that unless there is an ad she already has out with a lower posted rate than what she quoted you or a recent special she has posted and call attention to it.
Or, if it’s an hour rate that you don’t want to pay, ask if she will adjust the rate for less time, like 45 minutes or 30 minutes.
At least have a method to the negotiating other than saying you can’t afford it as a reason to lower her price, especially if you have an understanding of the average going rate in your area.
If it doesn’t work out, then ask yourself will there will ever be a short supply of women
...and it almost always works 
You'd be surprised how many ladies just want to seal the deal even if means a few less greenbacks for them.
And I'm also talking about $500-700/hr, top 100 on TER ladies. I suppose once these ladies get used to a certain way of life they don't really want to go back to the 9-5 grind, so making a little less on a session is better than no session at all. Especially when on tour. Of course they are free to say "no way, get lost!" but like I said before they almost always agree to a lower price.
Oh, and some of the best sessions I've ever had in my life have been negotiated. So let's not use that as an excuse either Don't knock it till you try it!
Makes me feel like a cheap rug in a Persian bazaar. If someone knows my rate and calls saying yes but I only have $200 to spend then I politely tell him that there will be other ladies in his price range to suit his budget better. I set my rate at a reasonable level to suit what I think my time and scrumptious service is worth. I may WANT to stay in an overwater bungalow in the Maldives on holiday but my budget doesn't stretch to $1500 a night rooms so I go somewhere else
to ask her what her 90-minute rate would be if it is not listed on her website.
Key word is "may".
what if you see a car that you can't afford?
what if you see a really really nice restaurant you can't afford?
what if you see a nice tv/entertainment center you can't afford?
move on. find someone you can afford.
or make and save more money.
I know some people will say negotiate, and some people will say not to negotiate.
Normally, I just move on.
What do you do?
If she's in the 200/hour range I would never ask unless I was looking for an extended session (anything over 2 hours)
However if she's in the 4-600 range I would let her know who I am by referring her to my aliases or screening info and just be totally straight that I would love to see her get to know her and hopefully see her on a fairly regular basis however that her current rate is beyond my means. I've found that by having great references and being honest helps tremendously. Sometimes because of the approach and other times if they are having a slow period or really horny they will consent to seeing me. Don't forget that they are people and have feelings and desires and needs as well.