I prefer email because of all those annoying phone calls, especially from guys who just want to jack off to your voice. Believe me, guys, it happens all the time. However, I'm very good about answering my emails. If I'm on vacation, there will be an automatic response there telling a client I'm gone. I certainly can understand your frustration, twukdriver. People who advertise it should be more professional. I have a hard time emailing my clients back or private friends. They don't check their emails every day. Urgh!
Hugs,
Ciara
Why is it that some of our lovely providers want initial contact thru email and then don't check their emails for days at a time?
I'm tired of all the crap about how tough it is for them when traveling...I travel and carry my laptop and have internet acess almost everywhere I am. The ones that use an agency have even less of an excuse.
If you are going to have email at all then please check it more than once a week.
I had the same problem when I first started Hobbying. After several failed, slow or no responses, I simply refused to use email as a method of communication any longer. This is not to say that all providers are bad about this but it is a common problem.
Consequently, if provider chooses to use email only that is up to her. For me it was to inconvenient I needed answers much more real time so I made the decision to only see providers who will answer their phones.
Saved a lot of headache and unsatisfied horniness.
Patience is a virtue, dude------- I made initial contact with a beautiful ATF through e-mail---it took 5 days, but it was worth it. Provider delays in responding can be attributed to the fact they're busy, their website e-mail systems has glitches or, if it's an initial contact, they're either afraid of LE or that you're a psycho ( there ARE psycho hobbyists out there, believe it or not ). If she's really hot, I'd advise you to wait-----if things go well after your 1st meeting, she'll then give you her phone #.
Of course this is MY take on it----any other thoughts from providers & hobbyists ?
Repeatedly not answering email after more than 24 hours is just unprofessional, and speaks of poor customer service.
If a provider doesn't answer, and I will start making other plans. There is nothing like another woman to catch a woman's attention.
I may make an exception if she is exceptional.
cheers,
Oridinarily I'd say just be patient. But I now know how you feel. There are three ladies I've already seen. Great ladies with never a communication problem. I emailed them recently and have yet to hear back from them. Now I know why many guys hate dealing with email. And I'm thinking of just moving on to other ladies.
It's not really your call. The mistake here is to assume that it is a buyers market. It's not.
I get impatient as well but, if that is the gal you want to see then patience is what it will take. Email is especially useless if you are traveling and looking for a quick hook-up. If I see a girl I like I give her one day to respond and then move on if she doesn't. Quite honestly, I know it's a dirty word around here but if you are looking for a quick fix on the road Craig's List is often the place to start. Just cross reference carefully and fine-tune your BS radar before you wade in...
As far as the girls who use an agency why exactly do they have less of an excuse? Most agencies don't allow the model to have email contact at all!
>> The mistake here is to assume that it is
>> a buyers market. It's not.
I respectfully disagree, at least in Boston and NYC.
It most definitely is a buyer's market, unless you talk yourself into into having to see any particular one girl.
Well, you can't separate the "one particular girl" part from the equation. That was the point of my post. My ATF works when she works and charges what she charges. If I want to see her I have to pay her rate and see her when she is available. Of course I can call somebody else who may be more available or cheaper but that's not who I want to see. This is an intimate act with a beautiful women we are talking about here not pot luck at a church social.
I don't see anyway that the provider doesn't hold the advantage in any market...and I don't have a problem with that by the way!
DUH, The agency should be answering the email.
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But you left that part out of your OP.
I only contact people via email (cuz I don't want to give my number out to just anyone if I haven't met with them) and it works out fine. I don't generally deal with the I want to see you within an hour type of appointments anyways. Though it can be tricky at times, if I'm expecting you to check in somewhere, I check my email on my cell phone to make sure it's all good. Only time this has failed was when one person checked into a hotel, didn't check his email and wasn't receiving phone service. So I couldn't get through anyways...
Katie
Well Katie,
Perhaps the next time I get to LA I'll email you and we can hook up.
Sounds great! 
Katie
Katie, I'm inclined to agree with you. I certainly don't want just anyone having my phone number. Once screening is complete and a date is set, I will give out my personal number.
I have had many clients compliment me on my response time via email. I check my email very, very often (it's my livelihood, afterall), and I do have a p/t asst. as well, that helps me. My priority return emails are one's that actually take the time to read my website and fill out my contact page, or send an email with all of the required screening info. I consider them
legitimate emails as opposed to the ones that skip the requirements and leave a comment asking if I'm available in an hour.
As stated on my website, however, there are times (albeit rare) that an email gets lost in the rest, or gets sent to my spam folder (which I do try to check often as well for this precise reason).
Just my .02 cents.
XOXO
Kiersten
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I check my email often, but not THAT often I think! lol. I sure don't have an assistant. If I'm in class, someone will usually have to wait a few hours to hear from me unless I'm expecting them to be checking in... then I'll discreetly check it on my break.
Katie
I prefer email because of all those annoying phone calls, especially from guys who just want to jack off to your voice. Believe me, guys, it happens all the time. However, I'm very good about answering my emails. If I'm on vacation, there will be an automatic response there telling a client I'm gone. I certainly can understand your frustration, twukdriver. People who advertise it should be more professional. I have a hard time emailing my clients back or private friends. They don't check their emails every day. Urgh!
Hugs,
Ciara
Ciara, you and the other ladies who answered have it down. If you choose not to give out your phone, and being in your shoes I'd probably do the same thing, that's fine. But then not only do you do a great job at answering emails, but if you're out, there's an automatic message saying so.
My frustration at this moment was emailing a provider in the last week. Never had a problem contacting her before. She also only does emails. But two messages and still no response from her yet.
I too require or ask that initial contact be made via email, however, I carry a PDA or laptop (if necessary) to check it during my travels.
I agree checking your email once a week is bad.
Just my $.50 worth.
Smooches,
Cami~
because I can send it from multiple computers and receive it the same multiple ways AND when I want to read it. I don't always have the flexability to answer my hobby phone 24/7.
Also, I make initial contact via e-mail, usually several weeks in advance of when I want to see a particular lady. I only hobby when away from home on business.
I prefer email too because there are just too many men who 1) want to jack off; 2) want you to come now; 3) call at inappropriate hours.
I check my emails several times a day. In fact, I have a PDA phone which downloads and pushes email to me every half hour.
But then, imagine getting emails which read: "I want to see you. Give me your mobile."
I get a couple of these a week.
One of the things I keep seeing in this thread is the idea that only the provider has a life.
I also only hobby when I'm away from home and the idea that I'd want to see someone on the day I first contact her doesn't strike me as something that should be such a difficult task. If you're working on that particular day than make yourselves available, if not let us know that you're off that day.
My guess is this is also one of the reasons that so many guys do the double booking thing which I know from previous threads isn't very popular with you ladies.
"One of the things I keep seeing in this thread is the idea that only the provider has a life.
I also only hobby when I'm away from home and the idea that I'd want to see someone on the day I first contact her doesn't strike me as something that should be such a difficult task. If you're working on that particular day than make yourselves available, if not let us know that you're off that day.
My guess is this is also one of the reasons that so many guys do the double booking thing which I know from previous threads isn't very popular with you ladies."
If you know you're traveling, then what is the problem with booking in advance? For those of us with a clearly stated screening process, it's not likely that we would be able to meet on the same day as initial contact anyway.
I realize that this comment was stated in general, but, personally, I have no illusions that I am the only one with a life. I respect my clients (and potential clients) time as well, very much so. However, as someone mentioned in another thread, we ladies are not sitting around all day, hair and makeup done, ready to go at a moments notice. I know for me, personally, if I don't have any appointments scheduled for the day, and no other personal plans, I love pulling my hair back in a ponytail and going sans makeup.
If you are going out of town on business for meetings, I would assume you have pre-arranged meeting times, etc. with your colleagues... Why should meeting with a provider be any different? Plan ahead!
I can appreciate what you said, personally I like a lady with her hair down and sans make up .
However, If you think about my handle for a moment you'll see what I do. The type I do is very specialized and unfortunately it changes on a moments notice so I try not to schedule to far in advance because everytime I do Mr. Murphy shows his ugly face.
This I do as a courtesy to the providers so they don't lose a time slot that otherwise may have been profitable.
It is not that only providers have a life and, honestly, that is not what anyone here is saying. What they are telling you is that they will not do anything they are uncomfortable doing. This includes posting a phone number for first time contact or seeing a guy on short notice if that is not commonly their practice. Again, hobbying is, to a large degree, a seller's market.
It's a simple fact that you have to plan ahead to see most well reviewed providers. It's frustrating as heck for me when I'm in a strange hotel room and I see a very beautiful woman's photos on her site but I can't possibly see her during my visit. It's not her fault, it's my bad for not doing my research a week or two before my trip and looking her up sooner.
There are plenty of women out there who will see you the same day you happen to wake up horny but there are compromises that have to be made if that is the route one decides to pursue. Many agency and Craig's List girls are available on demand. Most others are not.
twukdriver
Glad to see I'm not the only one with this problem. I have posted several times about this over the last three months..
I'm going to start doing what serveral people have said if you don't get a reply back in 24 hrs. I'm moving on in the future.
I think I my start seeing only those providers who anwser their phones.
I'm glad this problem is finally being brought out in the open.
Bengalguy85
It is not unreasonable to expect that a provider of a service checks their preferred method of business contact at least twice in their minimum scheduling interval.
If 24 hours notice is required then checking twice a day is a reasonable expectation. If 48 hours notice is required then checking once a day is equally reasonable. If "same day" appointment are offered then e-mail is clearly not an effect method of communication if screening has to be done before the visit (in other words not a regular).
I would wager that no one posting here has a single email address. I have one that I restrict solely for the hobby. IMHO any provider should do the same (and I imagine that you all do) and check and respond to email to that address in a timely fashion.
How we all deal with our "personal" email is a completely separate issue, which is well personal. I freely admit that I tend to my business emails MUCH more responsibly than my personal email. But all my friends know that I often check my personal emails only once or twice a week and factor that into their expectations.
-J
E-mail or phone, if they wish to see you, they'll get back to you quickly. If not, best to move on...our time as hobbyists is valuable as well.