Providers are asking for drivers license

is to find providers who don’t require info that you aren’t comfortable giving them.

Fuck that. Not worth it. Find one who doesn’t .

I mean, who is asking this question on the board?
Someone who could have done a 2-minute search to find that this topic comes up once a week?
Someone who's using an alias just to beat this dead horse some more and to thereby create the impression this is a chronic problem?
Someone who genuinely cannot employ his adult judgment and therefore must rely on the advice of strangers?

And there's your answer: DON'T provide personal information. Ladies have a right to ask and to not see you if you refuse. And you have the right to move on to one of the ladies who do NOT require PI or accept P411.
I do NOT support doxxing and would never see a woman who did it. But this is an illegal game and if you provide PI you are risking everything you have. It's pretty much that simple.

“ Someone who's using an alias just to beat this dead horse some more and to thereby create the impression this is a chronic problem? ”

If it truly is such a chronic problem then should we assume, given your statement about never giving such information, that you're generally sitting at home wishing you had someone to see?

If you're not willing to share the information she is requesting, don't reach out.

Real life ID only & it can be a DL, passport, Global Entry, etc. I whitelist here on TER after 1 visit. I see many reviews who have no whitelist on TER, but have lots of reviews & that’s never a good look in my opinion. If you ask for okays on p411 why not ask a provider to whitelist you on TER? I do not require references, but I believe whitelisting a respectful date helps the community.

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WRT sharing my ID, nope--never gonna do it. Certainly if one chooses to do it, it could quickly become an acute problem.  

Use a pencil or pen, and draw a line through her name and move on to the next provider on your list.  It's still a buyers market when it comes to pussy, and there are more sellers out there than you will ever be able to see in your remaining lifetime.  If you are one of the guys who absolutely HAS to see a certain lady, and are willing to put yourself at risk, go ahead and give her your info and then come back here in a few months and complain about being doxed.

I have whitelists but never asked for one. I didn't even know about them for a long time and was pretty surprised when I took a look and found that I had a bunch.

I've got WLs and never asked for a single one of them. One is by a woman I've never seen. No girl I know would even bother looking at them.

inicky46 & coeur-de-lion are both top posters on TER, so why not help build the board/website you live on?

And entitled. I've been a poster here for more than a dozen years, so don't pretend some exalted status because you've been here a few years more. And now it's just "a suggestion" you're making? Excuse me, but you've made the same "suggestion" denigrating P411 over, and over and OVER. All I did was point out said suggestion is quite ironic considering you're now promoting TER White Lists as a valid screening tool. You should know it doesn't come close.  
No doubt this is another way you're trying to curry favor with TER so you can achieve your goal of being named "Ms. TER."
Good luck with that, given your high-handed, entitled attitude.

I did NOT endorse p411, nor did I state that it should be an acceptable screening device for all. I simply said it's more credible than a TER White List.
As for QB's quest to be named Ms. TER, I am FAR from the only poster here to suspect this and write about it. QB is many things, but she is clearly not stupid enough to openly say she would like that title.

Any info you share could end up on the internet.  Stuff gets hacked, stuff gets stolen, people get desperate.  A lot of well intentioned people ask for things that later gets misused.

I mean, look at the information that's needed!
It's like you're applying for a government job!
Have they forgotten that this activity is an underground secret society...no one knows anyone!

How in the hell is a TER whitelist more valuable that a P411 okay? Honest question. I know you and your sister like to claim guys share P411 profiles, etc. and maybe that's true, I don't know. I just don't get how a whitelist is more credible than P411. Seems both would carry equal weight. Further, I don't know how a copy of a government issued ID is more valuable for screening than countless providers vouching for a client on P411 or here on TER via whitelists.

FYI, providers do not call your employer.

I ask for an ID with your name and pic only so I can confirm it is the person I was messaging that arrives at the appointment. I am unsure why gals would ask for your employer's info, I do not. The only real option you have is to see another gal who you are more comfortable with their screening process if you do not want to share the info requested.

Knowing her the way I do, I don't think she gives two shits about being Miss TER.

...run as many names thru there as you'd care too.  Every piece of data retrieved can be (and often is) saved for further use.  Of course, as THEY say, no reputable provider would EVER do anything shady right???  And many won't...at least until they choose to cash in on all of those nice little annuities rather than fuck strangers.  

It’s a really bad idea.

+1 -eom-

I 1000% attribute the fact that I have never been abused or assaulted to the fact that only see clients who have provided me with real world information. I started this work when I was a stripper at 19 and even then would only see client that were regulars at my club were seen with me on camera/had used their credit cards at the bar. I knew and they knew that there were multiple ways to identify them if anything happened to me. This is a practice that I have continued in my all my years working under the radar and now as I've brought my BDSM presence online to mall sites this TER. Clients/Subs can either send real world (ID/LinkedIN etc) info during the screening process or meet in a public place prior to the session and present their ID. Safety is paramount in this business.

Never share any info that you wouldn’t want to see in a police report or the dark web.  Even when people have the best of intentions, there are hackers and thieves and boyfriends and cops.

Anyone who agrees to provide a paycheck stub or DL picture is truly a fool.

I just wanted to make a comment on when you said if a provider doesn't take them it is going to be a lonely ride.

I've been seeing this a lot more lately, and I reply (respectfully) "I am not comfortable sharing this information electronically, is there another way you can verify me?" And sometimes they respond with "This is standard procedure so good luck with other providers", when in reality there is no "standard" procedure: I've had even the most reputable providers clear me with a LinkedIn profile, phone number, or work email address. That being said, their policy is their policy, and if you don't agree with it, move along, as has been stated previously.
I do find, interestingly, that it's usually (at least for me) the providers who are very much lesser-known, or even just starting out, with no reviews and no website, only an ad on Tryst. I suppose with enough polite declinations they may change their policy?

Biz info ain't a problem for me... I own it. As far as personal addresses and other personal info, I'm pretty tight. Maybe drivers license with only pic, name and birthdate showing. AND then, the lady needs to be HOTT!, with multiple ads/sites/social media.  

My point about loneliness had to do with the friendships you can make with other providers.  If everything is a transaction, then life can indeed be lonely.

It is what it is with this. I was annoyed too by this when I started the hobby. A couple of things...some providers will give you the option of choosing how you want to screen. The good ones will give up to three options. The drivers license thing I sort of got use to. With the drivers license you can usually redact some information. The work identification I have an issue with. There is actually a work around to that but I will keep that to myself. Some of them will actually request that you send them an email from the work email. That I absolutely cannot do. Providers are oblivious to the real world and they think money grows on trees. (It actually does for them). Anyway, work emails are monitored. Employers have a policy that if you use work stuff for personal use, you could be fired.  

they ask for a selfie with ID -PLUS- work verification and references! Why on earth would you need all of that information? It's wild because some of the most reputable providers in NYC, Chicago, Washington, D.C. ask for either references and/or LinkedIn, that's all. Why are some so entitled as to require your SS# or some bs to verify you? It's becoming seriously rampant and I'm on a crusade against it lol  

Obviously I cannot comment for all providers, but I don’t believe that screening processes requiring personal information indicate that a girl is entitled or malicious.  

Queen Bia, just because guys have lots of reviews on TER and no whitelist really don’t mean anything, I never thought about asking a provider to whitelist me, I think both providers and hobbyists should let the other one do it on there own, that way it’s way more genuine ,whatever happened to the good old days when references was good enough?

Very well said. My point of view is that there is no one size fits all approach from the client side as well.  

New to ter, not new to the hobby, and this post should help.  

Thank you all for all your replies. You guys are awesome!

In my case I accepted the assurances of P411 that whatever personal info I provided would be disposed of once the approval process was complete. I can't tell you that you should do that but it worked out fine for me.

I’m still pretty new to this, but early on, I decided that intrusive I.D. was a no go for me and it sounded like many of the agencies sounded like they wanted too much. That and the fact that they are intermediaries between me and the provider. Sounds too much like a middleman that I’m not interested in. Plus, they must get their cut of what the provider makes. Oh yeah, protection and all that.  There is a 4 letter word for guys that do that for a living, and I have nothing but contempt for them. I grew up in N.J. In a large Sicilian family. Draw your own conclusions. I stick to independents, who generally don’t demand oppressive I.D. I’ve had lots of independents tell me they really like me and tell me I’m a sweet, considerate gentleman. None of them have whitelisted me, most never heard of TER. I tell all of them to look me up on TER to read my reviews. Mostly, when they ask my age, they seem very comfortable. Whatever.I have asked a few to vouch for me to other providers if needed, and all have happily agreed. So I do miss out on a few providers I would like, so be it.