this question is aimed at providers, obviously.
It wouldn't depend on how many bookings we had.
If he was reliable, saw me often, a good friend, and beyond the call of duty in some way - meaning I'm not treated as just entertainment - then I might consider it. For a special occasion, the anniversary of our first date, a birthday, a gift in return for some act of great kindness.
An act like that requires a great deal of trust. When you do something of that nature for a gent, a lady needs to know he won't abuse a single act of kindness; that he won't take one inch and try and turn it into a mile.
Now "off the clock" dinner dates with repeat friends I've known over a year isn't an issue. Social dates for gentlemen who provide me with ongoing support and stability is an expression of appreciation for the comfort they bring my life.
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I could not have said it better. Making friends is what it is all about, really. If not that, then there would only be empty encounters with strangers. I could not live that way.
Now I have done off the clock dinners and/or lunches with no hanky panky unless on the clock before or after the meal was included, but that is about it.
Now this is just my opinion of course and I'm sorry to say, but no matter how great and trusted the gentleman is, once you do it for free; he will always expect it.
How often has your electric, cable, or water company given you a free month for being a long time, trusted, and loyal company?
Funny they never have for me either!
You're not a public utility. (I hope you aren't!!)
It is quite common in the professional arena to extend service as tokens of appreciation.
Not saying you should.
It's also untrue to categorically say that, "Once you do they will always expect it".
Good business is a fluid, enjoyable experience. Comes around, goes around....
You'll find that in the more enduring and successful relationships this is the case.
Sorry, but throwing a free session at a client after multiple repeats has never done anything but caused the client to tire of the provider faster because he knows that he can "have" that when he wants, and pay others.
This is a stupid discussion and whoever said "when you pay me twice as much for my hour" was about right.
Yeah....
Sure its a "stupid" discussion.
Says you. I don't have a particular dog in this one.
Nevertheless I do know that healthy, strong client/pro relationships can be enhanced for both by a little give and take built upon trust.
I get tickets to games, invites to parties, shows....etc. All legit and on the personal dime of folks whom I've given business to over the years.
That is the way it works. Period.
...And to someone who has an extensive profile littered with "I was with her for hours beyond our contracted for time".
Any client who books me and makes me comfortable will find that I'm always extremely generous with my time.
However, you'll never hear me say "oh honey, you've seen me several times now..how about a freebie?"
Been there, done that and no, that isn't the way that it works in this business.
Additional time nurtures the relationship.
"Free" time that isn't fronted by cash kills it.
...And estimate that you were given one free session per every 60 minutes of overtime after paid appointments!
Now there *you* go!
Does your lawyer also suck your dick??? I'm just sayin :/
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
ladyjae09, I think it's your turn.
Wishful thinking. Never
It simply won't work, no matter how often you see a client, or how much you like them. If you give them a freebie, the lines get blurred, it is no longer a client/provider relationship and things get weird. Yes, even one freebie and one of you will start thinking goofy things.
Ummm, let me think....Never.
Once a client gets a free session, he'll always expect another one.
For understanding that it could also be the provider whose lines get blurred; not just the client.
Just say NO to free sex!
maybe because I have been a little too close to the situation
We're human too, Just say no, keep a clear line drawn and things will be better for everyone.
I never offer my regulars a freebie. I do offer them longer appointments for a lesser rate though. That way the P4P is never confused with being anything other than what it is.
And yes! They squeal and scream with delight every time. Yeah!
*shaking head*
what has to happen for you to understand that providers run a for profit business? Were not a charity, if you want to get laid for free might i suggest you speak to your wife or hit the local bar and apply that charm you displayed here to entice a women to bed down with you.
good grief.
Besides i cant imagine a corporation requiring you to suck free dick .. well and get away with it.
Sole Proprietorship or Corporate enterprise, it doesn't matter. If you aren't just a minion for someone else, then your role in business goes far beyond what you offer on the clock. Ability to network B2B and with key contacts that bridge business to consumer is key. There's a lot of business proposals and networking going on long before anyone hopes to get paid.
People suck free dick all the time. They even do it at their office place. Hell if you work in entertainment, many women offer up their bodies for the casting couch without having to be tricked or coaxed, hoping for that extra edge.
The men I meet are perfectly capable of picking up a woman at a bar, or finding a girlfriend or mistress. They choose not to, for a variety of reasons.
I'm not saying that any lady should offer "Free dates", it's neither right nor wrong to do so. It's a choice the woman makes based on her comfort and nothing more. It's wrong for her gentleman caller to expect it, and deeply insulting to pressure her.
However, I don't find the concept ridiculous.
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This guy was asking how many times did he have to pay before the service became free.... im sure you see the difference in that.
I do however find the "concept" of a hooker fucking her clients for free ridiculous. But what i find more ridiculous is a hooker who advocates that position in hopes that hobbyists will then book her thinking that they will eventually end up on her "free session" list.
I guess some people just like to turn every discussion into marketing. Cie la vie!
...and I think of myself as more then a hooker.
"Companionship Philosophy" - every woman has one, but they're often very different. There's no reason to look down our noses at each other for having different ideas.
"I guess some people just like to turn every discussion into marketing. "
Unnecessarily patronizing.
I had no desire to cause a 'to-do'.
I'm sorry Jenny but Lauren captured my intent PERFECTLY.
THE END.
Get back to me when you do, then we can have a serious discussion about exactly how much of your work you NOW think you should give away for free.
*shaking head*
laurensummerhill, very good point of view. Thank you.
Another thing I am sick of providing for free - attention to jerks who don't come through. What happened to integrity? It used to be that a guy who seemed safe and had good ref.s would come through - a no brainer.
Now however I'm feeling like they're getting attention from people like me because of what deficiency in their life? As Jenny mentioned, we're not in this business to do charity. I've never heard of a woman who was.
grief, really?
Haven't got laid lately, have you?
btw, has anybody made a donation on your site yet?
.. contradict yourself lately? ("Were not a charity..")
and please don't call me a bonehead on your lame excuse for a blog. I'll outsmart, outwit you, out fu@ck you, outlook you, out about everything on you (except outweigh you .. you got me there) - any day of the week.. don't let my "board charm" fool you.
and to answer your question, I'm of service to others all the time which means I work for free. You should try it sometime.
So nice to see an avid blog reader and super fan here on TER! Keep reading sparky maybe you will learn something. Its obvious you identify with all the negative aspects I speak of about the hobby on my blog and none of the positive aspects I talk about.
How lucky for me to have gods gift to women and the hobby be a super fan of my little ole blog. Clearly you wouldn't read it and pay such close attention as to paraphrase an entry from a month ago if you didn't ENJOY it. I mean what kinda asshat spends his time reading and scrutinizing someones work if he doesn't like and enjoy it. Boy that would be stupid!
Keep reading and have a nice day
but I'm too tired.
It happens on the date AFTER you see pigs fly out of her butt...
hell actually I don't remember much of what I did get lol - gotta try sober mext time lol
or, car-wash card. But, seriously, it's interesting that you brought this up, because I just saw a lady's ad where she offered a free session after the first 4 paid sessions. The only problem is, she has no reviews, and by the looks of her pics. and ad, I'm not feel particularly optimistic that she'll be around long enough for me to get to the 5th session.
I think I will go out and buy a few lotto tickets tonight.
Let's see...I think 12 bookings will get you an hour of my time. We can go to coffee, or just sit and chat....for free no less. Oh you wanted more? Sorry, that you pay for.
any of you willing to do a frequent fuck program?
I take note and reduce that patronage accordingly
Appreciation is very important to me
I give it in spades
If I don't get it in return I move on
I'm more inclined toward variety vis a vis LTR anyway so it takes something special to "keep" me lol
That's the point...the what it takes to "keep" a client is sometimes more hard work and less profitable than them leaving and me finding fresh meat. I get bored and I have found with experience that regulars tend to like to eventually push some envelop. So...next!!!!
taking your chances with new clients has inherent risks
keeping clients with whom you are comfortable, and who are good to you, would seem like a good bet
but it is true that many ladies seem to prefer variety as well.
All you can go by is if you are happy....
in my case it takes a lot of "happy" since I am by nature somewhat omnivirous...
"keeping clients with whom you are comfortable, and who are good to you, would seem like a good bet"
Those type of clients are a good bet, but those that too high maintenance to keep them are not.
Familiarity can breed contempt...it has happened and I don't like like it.
When a customer comes to see me, they usually get an additional fifteen minutes to 45 minutes for free anyway, in fact, there are times, when I voluntarily meet for drinks or coffee without charge and I feel I give a lot more than the time I'm compensated for on a regular basis. Still, even the ones I give extra time to, will sometimes say, "Oh, can I have a discount, or something.?" Especially when I have gone the extra mile, sometimes even cooked or really taken good care of them, I find it extremely distasteful, hurtful and insulting. I mean, how much farther do some of these guys want it to go? I also find a man who rolls up in his Maseratti and wants a discount from me, who is worried about keeping the lights on and the children fed, and can barely afford care insurance, just wrong. Almost every client I see gets free time and only 10% of them even say thank you or even notice. Most of my provider friends give more time than they are paid for every single day already, and we have all reduced our rates over the last year. If a guys wants a free date, he should do just that, go date someone who is not an escort!! Remember, we also have high expenses to provide beautiful incall places, utilities on those places, full assortment of drinks, all sorts of other amenities, a smile and consideration even when we are exhausted and don't feel well, so the guys can enjoy their special time. And that doesn't even begin to cover the fact that this is very personal time we spend with someone, and quite frankly any effort to reduce a girl's price or get her time for free really shows what the man is made of. Many times I thank my clients for helping me out with my family and tell them I appreciate their patronage. But more and more, I will cut clients who take for granted what they truly get from a real GFE as they take their vacations and travel the world but want to safe a hundred bucks on the ones who give them personal pleasure, escape from pressure, a loving touch, a gentle smile and happiness. Wow that's just sad.
do, will receive a great deal of appreciation in return, in many forms. She would never feel taken for granted. And she would know that she had a "friend" or a sort whom she could call on in a pinch.....
" Especially when I have gone the extra mile, sometimes even cooked or really taken good care of them, I find it extremely distasteful, hurtful and insulting. "
It's sad when generosity is mistaken for weakness. There is a real danger of being taken for granted, the more you give them, the more they expect, the less they give in return. It doesn't always have to work that way, but people who do not have a sincerely kind spirit will take advantage of a woman's kindness.
However, I find guys of this nature have "tells". Little clues during the early stages of knowing each other, that tell you what he'll treat you like in the future.
I'm sorry your experience has left you disappointed, there really are good men out there. Save that extra kindness for the 10% who do show appreciation.
The act of sharing your body with someone is always going to be psychologically intimate, no matter how hard a companion may try to put up walls. Whether or not the experience is compensated for, an intimate partner deserves a certain amount of reverence and empathy.
The longer you're in the business, the more you are able to depend on the regulars who are good people and leave you feeling good about life, while helping you have financial stability. Slowly a companion can cut out the guys that just don't give a damn about her, I'm glad you've started doing that.
I wish you the best.
I find myself nodding my head over and over as I read all of the ladies' posts here. Everyone here has a valid point, as far as I can see. It's hard not to burn out when I give so much of myself to men who do not tip or say thank you. You are right. However, I just don't see them anymore. Granted, I am having a hard time paying the bills lately, but at least the people I do see tip, say thank you, give me gifts, bring wine or flowers, thank you cards, gift cards, and the romance is there. GFE goes both ways. Do I give them extra time? Heck yeah. They float my boat baby! It's about respect. We all want that, and we all deserve it. If a man cannot understand that, he can hit the road.
To My Dear libidinous,Cerebral and sensual Panda Bear: I was wondering instead being a pro bono hoe and I mean that in a good way why don't you have a certain financial numbers that we satisfy with you you give us a discount or some incentive as a good customer give back. Not that this should be the WalMart of the adult companionship business but if we keep meeting certain monetary thresholds then reward us with something of our choice sense you know us so well. Perhaps give out certain coupons to all of your favorite customers with a little humor added and make them redeemable after we satisfy what you need us to satisfy monetarily. Henceforth you have got in our pockets now share a little more of your socket. I made a suggestion to a provider to have her hobbyist give to a certain charity. When they contributed certain amounts then the providers had to be more than fare with certain commodities that they had. You guys could do it that way to. Then you are serving the greater good while we enjoy that good good. Just a suggestion.
I love panda bears.
"Perhaps give out certain coupons to all of your favorite customers with a little humor added and make them redeemable after we satisfy what you need us to satisfy monetarily."
THAT IS HILARIOUS! I think having a sense of homour and fun in your approach is great. I've also seen quite a few ladies offer discounts for donation receipts to certain charities on their websites.
However, I don't feel gratitude has to come in the form of discounts or free dates. It can come in meaningful gifts you buy him, based on things you know about him. It can come in the form of a conversation where you sincerely express yourself.
The experiences of most women in this world (at least independents) is highly individualized. Each woman has a different personality, different boundaries, different comfort zones.
I agree, most of the posts here are quite rational. I think it's perfectly reasonable for women to do exactly what feels best for them, and what is practical for their lives.
Good post. I will never give away a free session but I have cooked breakfast off the clock...gone to breakfast and paid and even gone skiing all day with a fave. I have never felt taken advantage of by doing this and these guys are great and love the fact that I want to spend time with them off the clock just hanging out.
Do I do this with all my clients...no, just a select few.
Not bad for a man hating whore eh?
to give out VIP cards with discounts on them, but I like that idea of adding some humor to the mix. I also like the idea of having them donate to a charity and then rewarding them for their good hearts. I can't ski, but I do love to cook or do other things off the clock. Friends are good. Being alone is bad.
The idea is fun and cute, VIP cards and coupons, but remember, it's also evidence. Don't give them anything they have to psychically keep. People snoop, things fall out at exactly the wrong time.
If you ever want to do something like that for fun, do it electronically, send a JPEG to their email!
Dear Lauren:
I was thinking about you in a good way last night and I have an excellent marketing idea for you. You should come out with the Summerhill spring spectacular circular on your site that would be offered to preferred members. With that said you could have a picture of yourself dressed in an open blouse and panties on the cover and a dollar $ saying the best values in adult entertainment in the area. Then you could have a little cute pull string inside a vagina electronically saying to inquire more about our offer for a limited time inquire here. Then you would list your deals and from there give an email address or your personal assistant's number if they had any questions. Then at the end you could have some drops that say it always a pleasure to entertain you and say please cum again. Then you would have a code identification with it so that you know who it is as well since certain people will be getting these circular so that you know that it is a limited amount of people. Just a thought on marketing yourself and getting a return on your dollar in a recession while having fun with your social and libidinal constituency.
Not by the hour like I do you, but he better be bringin me gifts, takin me to dinner, and handin me his credit card if he wants to keep dippin in this hole! I can't believe you cheapass suckers thinkin cuz you seen me 10 times and spent 5-6K that I'm gonna give you one free minute! Now ya gone and got me mad again!
ripped this guy a new asshole, a freebie is not unheard of, uncommon yes, but not unheard of. I have seen ladies who offer free sessions after so many visits. I've never been able to take advantage of it, but it does exist. One lady has an offer of five visits per month, for the price of four, and she's been around for several years. If I lived closer to her, I'd take her up on it.
one hundred million equals one trillion so I'm good with that.
What does make sense is a good repeat client... may get extra time or non-play extras. With my Fav ladies, there are almost no time limits... we may spend additional time together on a snack, refreshments, or ??
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"...spend additional time together on a snack, refreshments.."
lucky you.
This has been my experience as well. My two hour appointments with my ATF generally last five or six hours and include dinner. We have even done a few weekend trips where I just paid the two our rate per day and, of course, all other expenses. Is this the norm? No, of course not but I can tell you that I don't get treatment like this (from more than one provider) by going around asking for discounts or freebies...
personal or professional, to go sour quickly. Entitlement is not assertiveness, and asking for discounts of freebies makes one looked like they feel entitled, or needy.
for a free BJ... LMAO
I do not accept nor do I ask for free sessions no matter what else may go on between a provider and myself. Discounts can be fine under certain circumstances, but a missing envelope? Never.
In case you guys haven't figured it out, except for that drunk girl you hooked up with on a one-nighter; there are nearly always expectations from women that come with sex.
They expect you to call, write, remember their birthdays, meet daddy, fix their car, etc etc etc.
This is normal because in mammals, females are the more selective sex.
When you slap down an envelope my brothers; the provider is accepting that as payment in full in lieu of all other claims and entitlements she would otherwise exercise on your ass.
You are absolutely morally obligated, IMO, to treat any human being -- male or female -- with basic human dignity. But when a woman is having SEX with you? She's entitled to even more. As much as you'd give a cherished girlfriend.
But with the magical envelope, that entitlement disappears when the door hits you in the ass on your way out because she has accepted that envelope in place of all other claims.
That envelope says: I ain't your boyfriend once the timer expires.
I'll be a nice guy and treat you with respect, but I'm not your boyfriend.
That envelope, my brothers, is magical. Why on earth you would EVER wish to dispense with it is insane.
Because guess what? That provider likely knows 200 times what you do about every aspect of human behavior -- not just sex. She has made a study of it. And she is a superb actress besides.
That envelope takes all the most dangerous aspects of her femininity (hint: it ain't sex) and locks them in a box for that session. This allows you to trust her in ways you would rarely trust other women.
She gets to know your dirty little secrets, your fantasies, your fetishes. All the little things you might never tell a woman you were dating. All because in exchange for an envelope, she has surrendered her ability to ever use those to either humiliate or manipulate you as could happen with a civie girl.
And you want her to skip it for a session?
Hey, if a girl wants to be buds and hang out off the clock -- to a limited extent that's fine as long as there is no kissy face. And if she wants to maybe give me a discount within reason sometimes, okay.
But a missing envelope? Not with me. The man she has sex with without an envelope has a name: boyfriend/husband. If I wanted to be the boyfriend, she would find me on match.com.
What a density of truth and wisdom...
Thanks John!
Major thumbs up to John!!
No worries of jealousy or required tasks ... just FUN!
couple paragraphs out where the testosterone was hidin? I was thinkin, man, maybe this is it, maybe he's on crack or sumthin, and is gonna tell da ladies how it is.
Fact is, that was one of the most estrogen laden things I ever did read! That was more soaked in batholin gland ooze than I have when I cum!
You are actually gonna tell me, that if you been seein a lady every month for a 11 months, and on the 12th month she says hey johnny boy, been a year, i'm gonna give you a free hour, you would say I cannot accept that???? WTF is wrong with you? That was more crap than I saw when I got salmonella at KFC!
And I'll bet you are on match.com!
HAHAHAHAH!!!
Sh@t I got snot all over my new laptop from all the laughing!
Yeah JohnG where the f@uck was the testosterone at??
no offense player but sometimes I get the feeling you're softer than a batch of newly baked muffins.
Hey! I finally found the muffin man! (*grin*)
Look through this thread and you see all kinds of permutations of guys looking for a free lunch.
What is masculine about THAT?
Hat in hand, begging for some free nookie. "Oh please, Miss provider, I cleaned my ass and gave you lotsa money, can you pretty please blow me without an envelope just this one time?"
Gag me. How pathetic is that? How unmanly. How ... unattractive. You DO know women don't find that shit attractive, right?
Oh, there are lots of variations on the theme. But underneath, it is all about either looking for the free lunch, wanting free nookie, or odd attempts to justify it in a business sense by comparing apples to oranges. Or a sense of entitlement based on reducing men and women alike to the equivalent of a cable bill. Entitlement isn't a very attractive trait, IMO. Female sexuality, FYI, is NOTHING like being a doctor, lawyer or computer consultant.
And the common thread throughout? The man's failure to recognize his value. To recognize that a woman might ... just might ... actually DESIRE him (as a friend or romantic partner) for HIS OWN VIRTUE. The man is assigning no value to his own time; understanding that when the timer is up, he should REVEL in being free and his own person.
Maybe you guys can't relate to the possibility of a woman actually wanting you; but I sure as hell can.
In study after study, men routinely overestimate their abilities and women underestimate theirs.
I had a conversation with a provider that (paraphrased) went like this: "You can't fool me." To which she said: "Yes I can." Do the math. That might be a challenge I'd undertake for the fun; but I wouldn't be foolish enough to do it for high stakes because odds are, she's right.
Women naturally, in the romantic realm, have a decided advantage over men. That's why you pay them for sex instead of them paying you.
Now an exercise for further learning.
Why is it that the envelope is what makes the difference between having a Girl Friend Experience and an "I've Fallen and Can't Get Up" experience?
"You DO know women don't find that shit attractive, right?"
I don't give a rats ass what people, and certainty not women, think about me.
"..maybe you guys can't relate to the possibility of a woman actually wanting you.."
believe you me when I tell you this, John, but half the women on here will fu@ck me without charging me a cent... they just won't admit it. In fact, they will say the opposite. In fact, they f@uck guys like me all the time... when they're not "on the clock" LOL.
"In study after study, men routinely overestimate their abilities and women underestimate theirs... I wouldn't be foolish enough to do it for high stakes because odds are, she's right..Women... have a decided advantage over men. That's why you pay them for sex instead of them paying you."
HAHA!! It seems as though you have lost YOUR power as a man, for good, I'm afraid.
There's nothing wrong with paying for sex. After all, we're paying them to leave - if you really think about it. In other words, they offer us luxuries a girlfriend can't cause a girlfriend wants so much fu@cking more!! THAT'S *WHY* MEN PAY THEM FOR SEX. Just don't lose your manhood in the process, JOHN I'M TALKING TO YOU.
"Why is it that the envelope is what makes the difference between having a Girl Friend Experience and an "I've Fallen and Can't Get Up" experience?"
Huh?
You have zero reviews, I have 4. You can't write a review of a freebie. So clearly I have been paying for sex; but maybe you get all yours for free.
But what I'm wondering is, if you get all yours for free, why do you care how many paid sessions qualify for a free one?
I'm open-minded; I'll take the rest under consideration for now.
This is aimed at you and client77...I'd take JohnG over a knuckle dragging neanderthal type who is "gonna tell da ladies how it is" (Good Lord do you have to post like a barely literate teenager to boot)any day.
Go grab your shrinking balls and thump your concave chest if that makes you feel any more a man. The stench of alpha is overwhelming and seriously have you been inundated with offers for free sex from the ladies on here with that attitude? I didn't think so.
Oh and it's Bartholin gland.
Best Friends!
Just another in the sad line of manginas that live to serve the females of the planet. That stench is actual testosterone. Actually I'm surprised you can smell over your "FDS". Now go away you pathetic little puss, I have to go polish my knuckles!
Since you said you'd take John, here take him (again). No alpha smell there!
How sweet you are in your deluded manliness. Actually I would need FDS if I ever had any contact with you. And I can see you're the one on your knees in this delightful little scene with you and your other manly friend.
Too much of anything is revolting...that includes testosterone. Men that don't have to advertise their hormonal inclinations are the ones that are secure in their manliness. Those that have to advertise are simply shouting out to everybody how damn sad and insecure they are.
Happy polishing sweetheart!
distaste for men makes you a perfect compliment for the regular ladies on this board.
You are so pissed off at your own sad, dust covered, dehydrated pussy, you gotta project your depressed attitude toward males. Just another used up, sagging, has been, with a nasty ass disposition. Like a junkyard dog. I haven't seen anywhere on this thread where you contributed one useful sentence. You just followed men and attacked their positions. What are you advertising, when you talk about the sad, insecure men who do? Take a look in the mirror "sweetheart" and watch the last remaining gray, wilted pubic hairs hit the floor.
Fortunately, no one pays attention to you and the rest of the surly, dried up nastiness that infects this and other boards as representative of most providers. You are definitely a breed of your own.
No not MacDaddy. However if you were literate enough you would have comprehended my post. I dislike the over bloated, arrogant, women hating testosterone fueled jerks on here and anywhere for that matter. Men that don't fall into that category need not get their sac in knot and come out swinging with pure defensiveness. The only people who have commented on my posts with such vitriol are you and client77. If the shoe fits...wear it.
You and client 77 with all that manly testosterone oozing from every large open pore shouldn't be wasting time on here with us...don't you have women falling to their knees just dying to service you for free? After all, are you not irresistible?
I followed you and client77 not "men" but you in your rage didn't see that. And of course you have not seen anything useful in my posts...they disagreed with you.
I respectfully suggest some anger management because if a few board posts have set you off like this, I can't imagine what would happen to a woman in your presence if she disagreed with you or said no...you scare me with your rage and hatefulness.
Not angry, just scared of men like you. You really don't have to so aggressive and scary.
eat the shit you spew, I am now agressive and scary! Save it for your next sexual harrassment suit at work sweety. You're right tho, you are much better suited for the estrogen dripping manginas. The pose no threat as they will never stand up to even a manhater!
I'm done playing now. I've seen your whole show, and it wasn't very good. You, however, are the scary one. The kind of psycho that screams "I said no" at the end of a paid session! A manhater with a handful of personalities. You are definitely a goofball to steer clear of, and I'm steering away right now! Spooky!
Keep proving my point poindexter. Have a nice day and happy hobbying.
And I would never expect a 'freebie'.
I admit, it would be nice. But this is their 'job'. Even their SO's, if they have one, have to pay for it one way or the other.
So what makes you so special?
BUT, I'll admit, I have spent times with some ladies that wasn't 'on the clock' and didn't get charged for anything. Nothing happened sexually, mind you, but it was nice to spend time and have fun with our clothes on!
Yeah, it might've cost me drinks and meal-wise, but I'd be a dick if I asked them for money when the check came. THEN hope for a great date later on when the real deal was going to happen?!
Wouldn't you agree?
Damn. I just realized. I went thru writing a whole post without saying 'fuck'?! 
I don't think there is a right answer, but to anyone who says providers should do this for sure, or should never do this, you are both wrong. A provider should never feel like this is something they should do, but in certain situations, it can be beneficial to both sides. I have never been thrown a freebie per se, but there is one lady who will spend a second hour with me no charge after paying for the first one because I have been good to her. Because of this, I see her quite often.
FWIW I was gifted for a special occasion from a lady I have seen frequently. But she offered it and I would never think of asking for it or assuming that there will be another such instance.
And that's probably the reason she was nice to you. The dicks that ask are the ones that more than likely would take complete advantage of the situation and expect more.
Good for you and I have been extra nice to some special clients that have not asked and to those that have asked for discounts etc...well let's just say "I am fully booked" (indefinitely).
I have to agree with Remy and Jenny on this one.
And personally, my body is not comparable to a corporation.
is essential. There is no number, but it takes time. How much time is based on our chemistry.
Everyone, including us ladies, need to know that we're appreciated. And we take pride in the fact that our customers are satisfied with our work. I have met some amazing men, and I have received double my rate, and I have received numerous gifts. I take pride in knowing that I have made such impressions on my friends, and it makes this endeavor in my life worth it. Appreciation's one of the reasons I will continue sucking dick with such vigor and tenacity.
I show my appreciation in most ways mentioned in this thread. I have been known to treat for a birthday dinner where our time together was paid, extended time on a date, and even seen a client on his birthday at no charge. It has never caused a 'feelings' problem, no one's ever lowballed me after, and it has only made things better.
I feel that we ladies are a business, a very conflicting human business. Keeping all feelings separate works for some of us. Being able to compartmentalize my feelings, allowing the 'human parts' to be seen without full disclosure, has helped me to enjoy my encounters yet still keep things professional.
Everyone has their rules, but as ladies we shouldn't criticize a lady's prerogative. It's what makes us all so unique. No matter what we look like, what we charge, or the differences in our style, all of us has those who 'love that thing we do.'
No one should gather that a lady is open to giving away free sessions or hates her job, but that if you treat a lady right, you will be treated right in return.
The hobby isn't free, and all hobbyists need to know that. That being said, many ladies will, at their discretion, let you know that you are a client that they value...
... as synonymous with offering free sessions.
There are many ways to show a client you appreciate him without blurring the lines and removing boundaries put in place for this PAY for play hobby.
IMHO.