i am a hobbyist who has seen my share of providers. i have tens of providers willing to vouch for me and provide a reference. at the same time a disagreement with one provider (who is unprofessional and also very wrong in our disagreement) has landed me on the national blacklist. what do you guys think…can two things be true…i’m fair and a gentleman to the other 99% of the providers i’ve seen and at the same time i’m dangerous and deserve to be blacklisted because i didn’t simp for this one particular provider? i need advice on clearing my name from the blacklist…
First of all, it really depends on the reason she places you on the BL. If it is really just a disagreement, and you two had an argument about something minor, I would say you will be fine as most women wont view you as a threat. But If you threatened or stalked her, that would be potentially be MUCH more problematic. The details really matter.
Imo, the new women you plan on seeing will take this on a case by case basis and judge you on the totality of the info you send them, i.e. how long have your refs known you and how often you have seen them, how strongly do they recommend you, do you have many oks from p411, or are you white listed here and the equivalent on other review sites, etc.
Clearing your name on the BL isnt going to happen in all likelihood. On the flip side, some women dont even bother to check them and there are several different ones as well. So, it's all a bit complicated. It just gets back to the severity of your infraction.
I don't think it depends at all on the reason (her reason) she placed him on the blacklist. That presumes both are reasonable. It depends, rather, on the allegations she made against him on the blacklist. The details really matter.
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Being safe (to that provider), and paying her in full on time, is irrelevant (invisible to others), if she alleges that he threatened her and shortchanged her.
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"He said, she said"
Many women will ignore a petty reason but not see a guy based on a black listing where she was threatened, harmed, stalked etc. It's not "he said, she said" when the girls life could be on the line. Err on the side of caution is what any sane person would do.
Are you trying to hide something?
I gave a bad review for a provider that gave bad service. She was pissed and threated to blacklist me. I don't know if she did or not. I haven't had porblems though. Also, I spoke to a few providers about it and they said they don't pay mind if another provider whines about bad reviews. She said most providers are savy enough to ignore silly reasons someone may be black listed. For her, she is more concerned about someone who may be a threat. If there is a question of safety, that's a no go. Other than that, it would be clients who don't pay up. Unless you did something really bad, I would not worry too much about it.
First and foremost, you will need to spill the beans as to why this provider put you on the BL.
New hobby name that you give to providers, new email,new burner phone number.
Pass this on to the three providers you trust most...and boom you're back in business with three solid references.
Even if the one who blackblisted you is a known BSC, hard to unring a bell.
If you only had a phone on file that isn't your real identity, there are obvious ways to fix it.
If on the other hand you've used your real info, it will be much tougher.
It is possible that 99% of your sessions and interactions are perfectly acceptable but that 1% were so off that the provider though you needed to be put on a BL.
It is worth noting that several providers have stated on these boards that they don't take the BL entry at face value. They understand some girls will throw some someone's name out there for a lot of highly questionable reasons.
If you do have such a preponderance of good relationships I don't see how this one instance will really cause significant issues for you. Just ask a bunch of the other women to be your reference and send any new provider 10 references that will vouch for you.
I’ve never relied, or trusted a reference from anyone I did not know personally. I have never put anyone on a blacklist, nor has it been a deciding factor. I go off vibes, organic energy & intuition.
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This comment will not be greeted warmly by some here, but many providers are borderline psycho. In general even if you get ripped off, you should take the loss and walk away. Yeah, you can publish a ripoff report. But leave it at that. Otherwise you are likely to find your pet rabbit boiling on your stove.
I love Hasenpfeffer.
I've seen a series of posts over the years, referring to this legendary "blacklist".
There are as many response that claim that some national blacklist exists, as deny it's existence.
Is there a national client blacklist? And if your answer is "Yes', please offer some proof beyond second hand claims (e.g. "A friend of mine was on the blacklist").
The National Blacklist I knew ceased to exist years ago. It was a joke. Anyone could post fake BLs on it and they never came down. It was used during one of TER's epic shit-shows years ago, when people were BL-ing each other. Finally, I think TER actually stepped in. The one that I'd heard was legit was called something like SafeOffice and was used by a girl I knew. I don't know how to access it (if it still exists under that name) so I can't provide a link. But I don't doubt there's a least one actual BL site and maybe more.
can be used to BL a customer to other providers, but it's a club you can't join on request, TER has milestones that must be met in the way of reviews and community presence just like they do for the RO board. Since I can't access it, I cannot speak to its effectiveness for the purpose of exchanging intel on problem customers.
Thanks CDL.
I'm not having any issues booking sessions, so I perceive that I'm not on any "blacklist". That said, if one exists, I don't necessarily need to gain access to it (until I do 
). My reason for asking for evidence was just to avoid more hearsay about a mythical "blacklist" (e.g. "I KNOW there's a blacklist because a provider told me that she blacklisted me.").
My perception is that some of the people who complain about being blacklisted, are in actuality isolated instances of blacklisting where they are being "blacklisted" by an aggrieved provider, the provider's agency/parlor or by an acquaintance of the provider.
Many girls say they've blacklisted someone when the put them on their own personal Do Not See list.
Not the same, of course.