so that I don't just waltz out later without remembering to leave it at all, which I once did.
I found the envelope in my jacket pocket still when I got home.
I felt so bad that I immediately called the gal and drove right back over to give it to them.
I always have remembered to do it. One time, I walked through the door and as I was taking my shoes off, the provider stuck her hand out and said, "Donation please." That was a major turn off. At least give me a chance. But if I was to ever not offer it before taking additional clothes off, absolutely would have no problem with being asked. You should not feel you need to provide any service until I have paid. I'm well aware that behavior sets you up for being scammed even though I am not the one that needs to concern you.
And the John should always hand it over at the beginning of the session. Doesn't need to be the moment you walk in the door. Hugs, kisses, little bit of a chat, and oh BTW, here ya go sweetie. Excuse me while I go wash up. Be back in a jiff.
Done. Rocket science this is not. Gents should know their role. Common sense.
My early foray in P4P was a calamity
of my kindness and naivete regarding
the complex nuance of human behavior.
Unfortunately, I've many factual tales to espouse, whereupon tens of thousands
of donations were irrecoverable.
As an unfortunate consequence, I now
require deposits and request residuum
remuneration if not presented on the
foyer table or left in the powder room,
within the first five minutes.
I actually hate this part of the job when this happens it's so awkward because it should be taken care of first always no matter what.
I actually offer priority curations for prepayment because it allows the time to flow organically when we're together it's best to get the settlement out of the way, so all you have to do is have fun! 🤩
On a number of occasions, I was so excited about beginning the festivities, I got flustered and forgot to drop the donation.
Every time I eventually realized my mistake and sheepishly produced the envelope. But, not one time has a provider reminded me. Even a couple of times after having gotten through an entire session first.
On a couple of occasions, when seeing a regular, I would add a little extra to the envelope and be disappointed when I came back from freshening up and I would remind her to check it. Just a trustworthy guy I guess.
Most providers won’t say anything because we’re afraid of being labeled as demanding. The situation I encountered yesterday could’ve gone completely wrong if my client wasn’t a decent person all because I was too timid and sweet to ask for the donation up front. Never again, I don’t care.
I think a gentle reminder is certainly acceptable. I too have become overly excited with the first hug/kiss, that I forgot. I've never been reminded - which is entirely in her right - but been apologetically embarrassed when I discovered my error. The last thing I would want was for her to spend the entire session thinking - is he going to stiff me...
To give the young lady her “tribute” as some might say at the beginning. We went through our little tryst and on my way out as I reached in my pocket to get the car keys, I felt the envelope. I was at her front door ready to leave and I turned around and gave it to her with my apologies.
She never asked for it at the beginning or at the end.
She took it gracefully with a laugh and a smile
God Bless her heart .
Common thing to do is to have the donation in an envelope and place it somewhere the gal can see it and have no discussion about it----of course this would require that you know what the donation is .....and tips are always after the service ! (Someone has probably said all of this -I didn't take time to read all the comments---so if this is redundant---it's redundant !!)
In my salad days, when I was green in judgement, I'd carry the envelope tucked into the elastic waistband of my skivvies. In other words, the envelope comes out along with any other things inside my shorts. Impossible to "forget" to produce the envelope.
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After a while, I turned normal and just carried cash - no envelope - in my pants pocket and never forgot to leave it in an obvious place before proceeding.
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Re: Hmmm
Common thing to do is to have the donation in an envelope and place it somewhere the gal can see it and have no discussion about it----of course this would require that you know what the donation is .....and tips are always after the service ! (Someone has probably said all of this -I didn't take time to read all the comments---so if this is redundant---it's redundant !!)
Okay, you win the internet for the day, this is amazing
Usually i am on point with the doantion in envelppe.
But about two years ago i was so comfortable with my reg i walked back to my car after a phenomenal session and realized i still had the envelope in my pocket.
It happens.
It happens. Guys forget. I've forgotten. For me, it's best if the provider can say at a moment before serious action begins, "Oh! Can we take care of the business side now, so we can enjoy each other and not have to think about it?"
Then, literally it is taken care of and you don't have to think about it. Done.
if you are cool about it, no. Maybe wait amidst 30 seconds of small talk and GFE energy and demeanor. I saw someone last week. I set the donation on the table as soon as I walked in, but that still didn't stop her from picking up the donation and obnoxiously counting it right in front of me (didn't even respond to my compliment when I told her she looked nice). Needless to say, I won't be repeating with that provider!
To avoid a situation like that suggest that when you have entered and gotten past your introductory kiss set donation out in the open and ask to head to the bathroom to wash hands . I often would set my phone on it . This allows her a chance to check it if so desires .
I often arrived also with a bottle of wine as a gift or to share and would leave the envelopes in the same bag. Hand bag to provider and head to bathroom .
One one occasion the provider had the wine opened when came out which helped kickoff the session.
When getting g ready to depart came “did you forget something .” When answered with it was in the bag with the wine the bag was removed from the trash.
Good chuckle from both of us.
I mean sure a subtle approach may be preferred over the hand in face gesture.....but at the end of the day I don't see anything wrong about asking for a donation straight up.
One of my atfs policy is always to ask for dono beforehand. Every session for 25+ sessions I've had with her.
Doesn't really impact me in any way whatsoever. You have the right to ask for payment we agreed on. Non issue to me.
I’ll do the hello kiss and give them an opportunity to set their things down. Usually they’ll produce the donation at that point, but if they don’t, I’ll place my hand on their chest and ask sweetly, “Do you have an envelope for me?”
But always always get your money up front!
Pay my lovely $500 with CashApp. Instead, I accidentally sent her a request for $500.
She didn't catch it for two weeks, then called me in a state of concern. I immediately paid-up!
This is why I no longer accept e-payments. It’s not hard to go to the ATM to withdraw cash, I’m sorry.
