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Re: Danica lane
Harpooner 28 Reviews 7882 reads
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1 / 38

The typical cost of seeing a provider has jumped by about $200  or so; an increase of more than 60%. I wonder if it’s going to come back down to pre-pandemic levels and how long that will take? Or is this just the new normal?

It’s cut my hobbying back considerably. How about you?

Pooner

Steve_Trevor 162 reads
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2 / 38

that the typical cost of seeing a provider has jumped by about $200 or so.  How did you determine that?  It’s not true for me and probably not for many others. If it’s based only on what you’re paying, you should have said that.

 
I’ve seen some providers in my area increase their prices, but I haven’t seen any $200/hour increases.  One of my favs increased her 90 minute rate a bit up to $400, but that’s still low for the market. Another local provider whom I was planning to see went from $400/hour to $500, and that’s a bit rich for me so I took her off my must-see list.  

 
The providers I see regularly haven’t had a significant price increase since the pandemic began. One went to a two-hour minimum because she decided to cut way down in volume, but it’s a very reasonable 2 hour rate.  

 
I know my experience is probably different than many others, but I still wonder if it’s true that providers have increased their rates ~$200 in general during the pandemic.  

Harpooner 28 Reviews 165 reads
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3 / 38

In California, the majority of providers who were charging $250/hr to $300/hr are now charging $400 - $500. The only ones who have not are the Asian agencies, and I’m thankful for that.  

I guess if the mongers are will to keep playing those prices the ladies will continue to charge those prices.

GaGambler 260 reads
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4 / 38

I live in Texas and like you, I haven't been seeing rate increases anywhere near approaching $200 hr on average.

 
I will say there are a LOT more HDH's in Texas with an ask of $1000 hr or more than there was pre COVID, but there are still plenty of women charging much more reasonable rates, with equal or even superior looks than the HDH's I might add, and there are more than enough of them for me to bother about the ones charging what I consider ridiculous rates.  

 
I have to admit I do feel kind of bad for guys of limited means who are getting priced out of the market, but I am sure they could still find quality women at the price point they feel comfortable with if they put in a little effort.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 218 reads
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5 / 38

I've seen the price increases in Vegas and LA (although I have friends who love grandpa so not so much) But I've learned to adapt and adjust. In a way, it makes the chase kinda fun, putting in the research and just getting the vibe on the person you'd like to meet. But yeah, there's some new ladies whom I wanted to meet where now I don't fit in their price range but that's ok, no worries as there's more fish in the sea.What's that line we've heard over and over again...."it's supply and demand"..blah, blah, blah...so I get it
But one thing about me,.... I can still spot that diamond in the rough

Steve_Trevor 168 reads
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6 / 38

Also in CA, average for unleaded self-serve (in LA) is close to $4.40 and people buy burnt-out homes for close to $1 million.

 
Complain all you want about prices in CA, but that’s not the “typical cost of seeing a provider” for everyone who doesn’t live in CA… and are grateful that we don’t 😏.

 
Anyway, you already realize that it’s simply supply and demand.  

JawKnee36 95 Reviews 212 reads
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7 / 38

And, as already has been said, I haven’t seen a ton of price increases in the DMV talent pool I look through which includes non-kgirls. True, kgirl fees have gone up with my go-to agency, but only $20.  What I am noticing in reviews are increases in shorter stays such as 30-min for $300 but $350 for the entire hour or sketchy providers doing 15-min for $120-150. I don’t particularly care though since girls who offer QVs like that are a huge nope for me anyway.

A Chinese agency featuring various types of Asian girls popped up a month or so ago and they charge a bit more than the k-agencies do seemingly because many in their rotation offer BBFS (and also for a steep upcharge on top of the slightly higher standard rate). Thankfully, I have not used their service as the BBFS rep being has turned me off. I was already off put by the whole idea of a papasan letting you in, not being sure if you get who you request, too much YMMV, etc etc.

cool46 33 Reviews 160 reads
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8 / 38

I use to have a limit on what I would pay,which was 400.00,because I couldn’t see paying more for a hour then I make in a day(around 500.00) but some of my regulars, I like to see went from 400.00 to 500.00 to 600.00, it’s crazy, I try to look on the positive side of it all, the more a provider charge, she not likely to see as many guys, so she has more energy and preform better… hopefully the prices don’t keep going up, if they do ,then I will have to give up the hobby!! I always think about all the money I spent on the hobby, it’s could be going into my retirement account…Lol

y2j 8 Reviews 148 reads
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9 / 38

$500 and up is just a difficult thing to accept.  When you think (at least I do) what you could buy for that $ after your session is over makes me pause.  
I collect some sports memorabilia on the side and if you gave me $500 to go to a store and buy whatever I could with that money I'd be excited and come away with a few cards and autographed football or baseball.  Or do U spend $500 and then 1 hour later you out the door and maybe that session wasn't all that special.  
I understand some high profile adult stars charging $1000 and up.  But when you see just your local lady charging $500 for just 1 hour it has to give you pause.  I wanted to see Danica Lane who is a travelling escort but she is up to $700 for 1 hour!   Hard to justify that.  

gnubie 2 Reviews 177 reads
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10 / 38

Comparing my two ATFs
1. 2009 / $300
2. 2020 / $300
# 2 has a rating of 8.5 and about 100 reviews. Total GFE and begs for MSOG. Down to Earth sweetheart.
Go see her.
BTW $300 in 2009 adjusted for inflation is $375+

WICardinalfan 37 Reviews 168 reads
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11 / 38

Upper mid west and Chicago in particular most ladies have tacked on an extra $100 or so.

Lots of $400 per hour are now $500 per hour, and so on.

TheVoiceOfReason 187 reads
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12 / 38

$300 in 2009 = $372 today
$300 in 2000 = $464 today
$400 in 2009 = $496 today
$400 in 2000 = $619 today

That lady that charged you $300/hr about 20 years ago should be under $500 today and that lady that was $300/hr a little more than 10 years ago should still be under $400/hr today.

cool46 33 Reviews 220 reads
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13 / 38

I hear you on Danica Lane, I just pulled up her profile, she reminds me of some one I would see in the grocery store,and I will go back down that same aisle and pretend like I’m looking for something just to get a second look!

LC_69 10 Reviews 172 reads
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14 / 38

Cash only transactions for me. If I can't do it within the daily ATM limit, I'm out! Lol

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 183 reads
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15 / 38

well everyone is taking a hit (No matter who you are). The restaurants, Sex Industry Workers and etc. are taking a hit (but it's safety reasons).

mrposition 10 Reviews 179 reads
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16 / 38
y2j 8 Reviews 186 reads
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17 / 38

I reached out to a massage provider who I'd remembered was around $500, maybe $450, for NURU style massage.  When she replied the rate was much higher.  I asked why and she said the hotels, gas, food, etc are all way up in price and had to adjust the rates.  I mentioned I had access to $500 cash.  We had a respectful email exchange and in the end we were unable to meet.  Not sure if anyone filled the spot but it was refreshing to be able to talk open and honest about rates.  I explained I too had close to a 3 hour round trip and that would cost me over $50 in gas and dinner to get there.  Both sides have expenses in this transaction.  
Another time a Dominatrix I wanted to see was touring kinda last minute.  It was the night before Thanksgiving and she put an ad on Eros for the weekend she was touring near me.  I emailed her for rate and she said it was $250 for the 1 hour session.  I replied asking if I could use a CC or send amazon GC.  She emailed back asking how much cash I had.  I said $200 and she said fine, I'll do it for $200.  She mentioned better to make $200 while on tour than sitting around not making any $ that night.  Ever since I've done the $250 and often bought her stockings from her amazon wish list anytime she is in town.  The $50 she could have not seen me for turned into a great relationship of sessions and other gifts.  

mrfisher 115 Reviews 184 reads
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18 / 38

But that’s I.  

What can I say?

I’m a slut.

y2j 8 Reviews 216 reads
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19 / 38

We all have are budget.  Hate when providers think budget = Cheap.
Anything over $500 for me is no go unless you are talking about meeting some elite adult stars like Nikki Benz or Kendra Lust.  Over $600 for a massage is pricing out a lot of folks IMO.

y2j 8 Reviews 199 reads
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20 / 38

Danica checks all the boxes.   Mature woman who looks sexy and knows how to dress.  Stockings and lingerie are a must for me.  Anything else looks lazy and last minute (Karen Fisher did this to me).  However asking $700 for 1 hour to meet is not practical and to those who can afford it I am jealous.  I just keep looking for someone in a $400 to $500 range that is close to her looks and style.

Ripoffrevenge 167 reads
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21 / 38

I was paying 40 to 80 now $100 to $200 for the end see.  Most I ever paid in my life was $120. Unless you count time my bike was stolen, or I got mud at truck stop, or rob on Michigan avenue in Detroit but that was around 100 loss.  
Lost provider I gave her a trip and $49 for a quickly.  Dollar tree has windshield Washer solvent for one dollar Walmart and auto parts stores $2.99 the gastation it $4.99.  I try to buy 5 case on sale at home Depot in April when go sale spring stock up at .79 a bottle.      LEARN TO SHOP.

holystonethedeck 104 Reviews 174 reads
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22 / 38

Posted By: Ripoffrevenge
Re: I seen a 100% to  150% increase  
I was paying 40 to 80 now $100 to $200 for the end see.  Most I ever paid in my life was $120.
So even the street hoes raised their rates I see.

You would be wise to see a few less street walkers and invest in a course on English spelling and grammar.

chunking 94 Reviews 187 reads
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23 / 38

Prices of EVERYTHING were being driven by real-estate bubbles/crunches .. pre-COVID, there was a combination sharp price increases in even fleabag hotels and dumpy apartment buildings used as work cribs by independents.  I would see ladies my age, for better chemistry, and pay about $$ - $$$.   These same ladies are now returning to the market, and asking for $$$$.   Nope.  

I see on PD, asks of seven bills and up for non-GFE service by plain janes .. this puzzles me, but there's people out there that pay it.  

C/-orgs, with their mighty real-estate buying power, and high-volume model, have held, with heavy use of upsells.

K-Orgs have bumped their prices 20-30% since COVID.

Service workers can no longer afford to live in inner rings of the Bay Area.  I keep meaning to book a weekend in Sacramento, where a lot of ladies I used to see moved.

My experience is that once the prices go up, they never come back down.  This doesn't mean that X is worth more, it's your dollars are worth less.

Ripoffrevenge 192 reads
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24 / 38

Consumer Price index versus pussy price point .  

Pussy price point is how I shop.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 184 reads
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25 / 38

What's interesting that for the last two years, rent and real estate market have been down in bay area, and especially in SJ due to covid and tech outsourcing due to all tech companies allowing wfh,many times with relocation.

 
My company has extended wfh into 2022 and even if covid is over (not anytime soon it seems) well have a choice of wfh.

I don't buy for a second the price hikes were tied wihh rent prices. Because if they had we'd have the most expensive hobby in the coubtry from 2010 to 2020. That wasn't the case.

y2j 8 Reviews 178 reads
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26 / 38

Pricing needs to follow some common sense.  Eventually you price yourself out of business or piss off enough regulars that you take yourself out of the game.  
I'd think some ladies would be trying to undercut the $500 and up crowd.  Get new clients and grow your brand.  

I mentioned this earlier but I was told over $600 for a NURU massage.  Let that sink in.  

SeanNJ 9 Reviews 163 reads
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27 / 38

Let me put it this way, I deal in a business that operates on margins of about 60% before expenses , since Covid-19  pandemic our business has increased maybe 5 % and we have acquired another company and their client base . My employer is a multi-billion dollar company and operates in 28 states and has factories overseas .  

My compensation has increased by 8% via salary and retention bonuses, but what these providers and their facilitators are offering these services for is a lame attempt to recoup the lack of revenue they are making because discretionary spending on adult services have decreased immensely, upwards to 70% and I would say this after speaking with a pretty good mix of over 15 different providers from across the country I have seen and still maintain friendships with..

We can't compare this to the fall off in 2008-present , the feds crackdown of major online agencies etc.

Even the $5 footlong is $6 and their market share has tanked.

You can get the pre Pandemic donations , just know how to do it...

Keep smiling and hobbying !  

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 162 reads
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28 / 38

Complaining isn't going to do anything.  Either they are successful at their price point or they aren't.  That's the only motivation.
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I was just ready to book a high price twitter famous touring provider, $800 for 90 minutes.  That's generally out of my desired price range, but because she was famous ... but the very day I was going to commit, she bumped minimum up to two hours for $1000.  So I had to pass.  I don't need two hours and for $1000 I could see three locals for an hour each.
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You just gotta draw the line and stick to it.  If she can get that (no doubt) then that's what she can get.  Good for her.
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But I'll stick to my neighborhood as well.  

jbarlo 1 Reviews 179 reads
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29 / 38

I have checked the first page of independent providers on P411 in Atlanta to arrive at an average price per hour. I didn't count providers from an agency and there were some providers who did not reveal costs. I checked on 3 random days, The daily average was 48 active providers.  The average price rounded off is $500 per hour in Atlanta. P411 is as good a source as any available. We know the providers are current and active. P411 is a good source for any other city for current information as well

WICardinalfan 37 Reviews 186 reads
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30 / 38

A fact versus an opinion.  Nicely done.

cool46 33 Reviews 217 reads
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31 / 38

You seen Kendra Lust? I seen her back in 2018 for 1800 only time I spent that much on a provider,but I figure you only live once and I have always wanted to see a pornstar, her husband is a very lucky man! She was great!

cool46 33 Reviews 165 reads
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32 / 38

I agree, lester_ prairie , with not needing two hrs, i believe providers who only do 2 hrs minimum, are lazy and is trying to see as few guys as possible ,and make the same money, plus for the first hr plus they want to bullshit ,and do a lot of talking and maybe have a drink or two at the guy expense, I am not really into conversation when, I go see a provider, plus I don’t drink, so I’m like enough of the bullshit, we both know why I’m here, so let’s get down to business ,so I can get on with the rest of my day!

DT_lover 188 Reviews 217 reads
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33 / 38

I'm sure the average by this measure is well over 500/hr for Boston.  There are girls visiting Boston publishing even higher [asking] prices...700+ is quite common on Twitter these days.

I have a few favorites at 300.  Some are grandfather'd rates.  A new thing for me is making a day trip to Providence or Hartford to see an Olita girl mid-day, then spend a few hours in a strip club.  The clubs there are far superior to anything in Boston, and the Olita girl is like icing on the cake.

-- Modified on 9/23/2021 8:30:38 AM

DT_lover 188 Reviews 179 reads
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34 / 38

I don't know why the link did not post.  Here it is.

Zman400 29 Reviews 180 reads
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35 / 38

Idk what the reality is but from all the providers that were on my bucket list, once she raises her rates, she never lowers them. She keeps charging that or increases it again. In very rare circumstances do i see a rate lowered.

I don't know if it's the average but i have seen some increase their rates by $200, some only by $100 and some doubled their rate entirely. I have seen some providers lower their rates in this pandemic. Saw one lower it by $100. A regular of mine also lowered her rate by $200 for 2 months last year because it became slow for her during the pandemic. Then she jacked back up to her old rate for at least 12 months. Last week i saw she lowered it by $150. So business must be slow right now but some would rather complain about it being slow rather than adjust to the market. Lower your rates if it is slow.

Agencies used to be a source for lower-than-market rates. What sucks is that in my town, all the good agencies either closed shop or were busted by the feds. The few that remain have an average to below average selection of women. Don't really like to see a below average or average woman. I'd rather just jerk it to porn in that case. Then there are a few other agencies that are charging $600 to see their providers. What's the point of an agency if you are going to charge us independent rates?

I have no hope that rates will go down any time soon, if ever.

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 166 reads
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36 / 38

As things around us goes up  (Things such as cost of a roof over our heads & etc).  So does the cost of a provider (escort).

jbarlo 1 Reviews 302 reads
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37 / 38

I posted the average price per hour of a 1 hour date 11 months ago. The average price per hour at that time was $500 per hour per independent provider in Atlanta. The information was gleaned from the first 50 listings on P411 . I just calculated again today using the same criteria. The cost per hour has risen to $583 since last September.

tml0603 1 Reviews 131 reads
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38 / 38

I am in NYC and the sweet spot for what the Indy's are asking is around $600 vs $500 a year or two ago. That said, I am paying $400 to two Indy locals I've build relationships with and the occasional agency at $450-500. Even the AMPs have gotten more expensive. Most are now asking low/mid $300s all-in vs mid/high $200s last year. When I see an Indy I like, I usually make an offer to see them at least every other week for a $100 discount. It's worked more often than not so far. To my surprise, I have also benefitted in paying for a one hour session but getting 2+ instead on most occasions. I guess loyalty reward programs work in the hobby too.

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