To me, that is very different. As providers, and women, historically we have been looked down upon, scorned, have lost custody of children, for working in the sex trade. Finding out your Dad sees a hooker (and could potentially be cheating), is bad. But your mother (in the eyes of society) is taking money, undesirable men, degredation, etc...Not saying I agree.
If my mother had been a provider to raise me, I would have seen her as strong. If my father had been seeing clients behind my mother's back, I would have just been angry.
The two situations are not comparable. One is of necessity (sometimes) the other is of luxury/selfishness/boredom/whatever reasons people give.
Posted By: DateJessicaK
How do you balance seeing providers and being a father?
Sort of same question. I'm sure the men don't want their kids to ever find out they hired escorts.
Common sense, adults do things they don't share with their children all the time. No difference.
In my many years in the hobby, I have encountered many situations where providers are mothers to young children. The fathers are usually deadbeat losers that have no interest in financially supporting their children or even being emotionally involved.
I guess as a provider, the worst thing that can happen is for your kids to find out how you support them by providing.
My saddest time was seeing a provider in a very large hourly motel in the northern Chicago suburbs and having her ask me to dress and leave quickly since the school bus was arriving to drop off her kids. She actually was raising her kids in the hourly motel. Very sad.
My question to the ladies here is how you balance your life as a provider and a mother where you would never want to mix the two worlds together?
Most of us don't even bring this shit anywhere near the same house our child lives...some, not even in the same town. Like you all of a sudden care about children, when you've admitted to not giving a fk about getting a girl pregnant. You have said you do on purpose to go overseas because women there can't make you pay child support, but that does not exactly stop the problem of unwanted children and deadbeat dads, now does it?
I am all for you getting your bbfs, but to sit here and act like you give a flying fk about what mothers go through is comical. If you really DID care, you would make sure there was no way in hell she could get pregnant before you unloaded in her, but that's not the case. Yes, it certainly is sad what women have to do to raise their children, and if anyone cares about them it would be the guys who actually pay them MORE than the peanuts they sell it for overseas. I have a friend who gave me a full year's tuition for private school, 'just because." I could have paid for it on my own, but he insisted. I have another friend who just sent me 5k out of the blue last year, with no request for anything sexual...just because. Yet another friend who sent me money right after the storm...the list goes on.
So, other than paying 300 bucks for a 12 hour overnight to cum in a provider, what have you done to HELP anyone with their children? I am just curious since you like to call other guys deadbeats. Fact is, you really don't know what fathers are like here, because you don't know ANY of the providers on this board.
I'm not sure what the deal is with your reputation or what you did to piss London off, but I agree with her. I doubt that these are the conditions that majority of the Providers with children are living in, and I also doubt that all Providers with children are dealing with deadbeat dads. This profession attracts a wide variety of women for a wide variety of reasons. The ladies you are referring to may very well have a LOT of other issues (issues that may be very well hidden and kept from the "sympathetic" ears of those like you who "care") that play a role in where they are in life right now.
Posted By: London Rayne
Most of us don't even bring this shit anywhere near the same house our child lives...some, not even in the same town. Like you all of a sudden care about children, when you've admitted to not giving a fk about getting a girl pregnant. You have said you do on purpose to go overseas because women there can't make you pay child support, but that does not exactly stop the problem of unwanted children and deadbeat dads, now does it?
I am all for you getting your bbfs, but to sit here and act like you give a flying fk about what mothers go through is comical. If you really DID care, you would make sure there was no way in hell she could get pregnant before you unloaded in her, but that's not the case. Yes, it certainly is sad what women have to do to raise their children, and if anyone cares about them it would be the guys who actually pay them MORE than the peanuts they sell it for overseas. I have a friend who gave me a full year's tuition for private school, 'just because." I could have paid for it on my own, but he insisted. I have another friend who just sent me 5k out of the blue last year, with no request for anything sexual...just because. Yet another friend who sent me money right after the storm...the list goes on.
So, other than paying 300 bucks for a 12 hour overnight to cum in a provider, what have you done to HELP anyone with their children? I am just curious since you like to call other guys deadbeats. Fact is, you really don't know what fathers are like here, because you don't know ANY of the providers on this board.
Part of my coming to this industry was time vs. pay..(to raise my lil one) Im able to be an inspiration to my daughter as an independent strong woman while I get to be there for her many oppurtunities. had I worked a 9-5 certain work environment would have me lost out on Many of her prescious moments.
Im not sure where this post came onto the board but it is wildly offbase..I dont understand why it is hard to to seperate the paths.motherhood vs. providing.. A dead beat dad blah blah in a motel room is a very movielike vision. Plus if it is so That is sad.. but I must say everyone beats to there own drum. I think it is a shame if that is what th op actually went through.. : (
Judgement is not the answer and the "unsafe sexual practice" is part of what reviews should be about etc..
London Rayne, you are privelaged about the private school etc.. I would be kissing the air and dancing aroound with that gift but in the interim The important part is that your children are safe from the outside people and be a responsible parent and be able to handle both honors in our lives.I am sure ou are ell aware .. Keep that good karma.. many hobbyist are very generous and care about a provider personally through the years..
Be sfe ,reliable,reponsible and safe as a provider and enjoy your time wit your children... We only have one journey in our life.. Make it one that in the end produces responsible and intelligent healthy kids and respect yourself as a woman, a mom, and whatever else that is important to you in life..
Lets make this sad negative post and turn it around to be one empowerment and feel for those that have been harmed or have had to suffer to the consequenes of the brutal world out there!! kisses and lots of love
To me, that is very different. As providers, and women, historically we have been looked down upon, scorned, have lost custody of children, for working in the sex trade. Finding out your Dad sees a hooker (and could potentially be cheating), is bad. But your mother (in the eyes of society) is taking money, undesirable men, degredation, etc...Not saying I agree.
If my mother had been a provider to raise me, I would have seen her as strong. If my father had been seeing clients behind my mother's back, I would have just been angry.
The two situations are not comparable. One is of necessity (sometimes) the other is of luxury/selfishness/boredom/whatever reasons people give.
Posted By: DateJessicaK
How do you balance seeing providers and being a father?
Sort of same question. I'm sure the men don't want their kids to ever find out they hired escorts.
Common sense, adults do things they don't share with their children all the time. No difference.
Before anyone yells at me, I don't know - nor have I heard of - any provider raising her kids in an hourly motel. And I'm not convinced Udo does either. That being said, there are probably some.
Why is this shocking? There are very poor single parents (largely women) trying to raise their kids from their cars, the street, and, shelters ,as well as motels. When there were brothels, they sometimes raised their kids there. And these women do whatever THEY deem necessary and/or appropriate to make ends meet and to feed their kids. Some are providers. Of those, some no doubt have serious moral problems with that business. Some don't. But Udo's lady is getting her kids to school and meeting them when they get off the bus. I'm not going to judge her, particularly for committing a crime where she may (according to Udo) be the only victim.
Is it appalling that someone would feel they have do something morally repugnant (to them, not to me) in order to feed their kids? Absolutely. Welcome to the real world, kiddo. People do what they think they need to do, even if they don't like it. And the less developed world Udo likes so much is much worse.
And, given some of Udo's other posts, I do find what sounds like a really strong moral disapproval of prostitution on his part to be be, well, just bad.
You see, he hates us Because inside, he hates himself.
~Om
Posted By: Butterscotch13
Before anyone yells at me, I don't know - nor have I heard of - any provider raising her kids in an hourly motel. And I'm not convinced Udo does either. That being said, there are probably some.
Why is this shocking? There are very poor single parents (largely women) trying to raise their kids from their cars, the street, and, shelters ,as well as motels. When there were brothels, they sometimes raised their kids there. And these women do whatever THEY deem necessary and/or appropriate to make ends meet and to feed their kids. Some are providers. Of those, some no doubt have serious moral problems with that business. Some don't. But Udo's lady is getting her kids to school and meeting them when they get off the bus. I'm not going to judge her, particularly for committing a crime where she may (according to Udo) be the only victim.
Is it appalling that someone would feel they have do something morally repugnant (to them, not to me) in order to feed their kids? Absolutely. Welcome to the real world, kiddo. People do what they think they need to do, even if they don't like it. And the less developed world Udo likes so much is much worse.
And, given some of Udo's other posts, I do find what sounds like a really strong moral disapproval of prostitution on his part to be be, well, just bad.
I suppose I shouldn't have much to say on this matter, I don't have and won't have kids. I can imagine how hard it could be to be a single parent. It probably allows for a better life for the children than working at Mcd's so in one aspect I appload her for doing what she can to give her children the best life possible ( I wonder though her kids living out of a motel, but maybe she's working up a down payment for an apartmen)t. The fact that she quickly got you out the door because her kids bus was going to be there soon speaks volumes to me. It tells me she's doing what she needs to without them finding out, good for her. I will say that I try to never be an enabler so if I know a provider is doing drugs or has an out of control alcohal problem I won't see her again. But I feel this is different, this is a Mother doing her best to feed, clothe and put some kind of a roof over her children.
But I recall a post by you stating your plan to have intercourse with a pcific islander woman, use the "withdrawal" method, and if she got pregnant, not pay any child support.
So are you asking how [the women you sleep with overseas] raise their children that [you, the deadbeat loser jerkoff dad] left them with? Or...?
Off topic: One day you are going to to get AIDS.
Posted By: Udo
In my many years in the hobby, I have encountered many situations where providers are mothers to young children. The fathers are usually deadbeat losers that have no interest in financially supporting their children or even being emotionally involved.
I guess as a provider, the worst thing that can happen is for your kids to find out how you support them by providing.
My saddest time was seeing a provider in a very large hourly motel in the northern Chicago suburbs and having her ask me to dress and leave quickly since the school bus was arriving to drop off her kids. She actually was raising her kids in the hourly motel. Very sad.
My question to the ladies here is how you balance your life as a provider and a mother where you would never want to mix the two worlds together?
I know some didn't like the topic. Some don't believe or think that providers children should be in their place of business. I agree with all. But I've known cheap Latina providers, who I call apartment girls I have to tell and this is what it's been, what I've seen and experienced.
Babies and toddlers at their places of work at the hour of work.
The good thing for them has been that around those areas people or next door apt. neighbors don't deal or like the police and stuff. I would think it would be a big big problem having children there.
There is more to the story or more stories. Let's see, there was mother with teenage girls that visited the apartment once. Supposedly that didn't know anything. But in the end they (2) ended up doing the same thing... yeah, with their mom and other girls. And if I remember right, took a baby to work. Crazy ha? Then there is two other Honduran sisters who work only with guys that they already know. She picks up the kids at school and bring them to the apt. sometimes. If the father would find out he would take the kids or start a fight. By the way they're 3 sisters in total. Many times what I've seen if that all the females in the family might know or do the same thing. But the males, brothers, husbands, etc don't know anything. How crazy is that too?
Being in this business as a hobbyist or a provider you see the craziest things and as more time goes by you see more.
Sometime to get to know each other and stuff. I like hearing and telling stories to new found girls. I'm just saying everything happens and the other poster wasn't being a troll or lying. I believe him.
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many hobbyist are very generous and care about a provider personally through the years..