Excepting a few early reviews I made, whenever I give a 10 it's for a woman that is above the 93rd percentile of early twenties women- one out of 15 or so. Been to a college recently? That's well within the range of "fucking hot" as far as I'm concerned. So yes, one girl was in the top 2%, another 3 or 4 in the next 3%, and then another 4 or 5 in the next 2%.
73% of my reviews have a 10, but what about the ones I didn't review? I singlehandedly ruined one providers business by a very negative review I left of her, and she dropped out and is no longer providing, at least in the bay area. She deserved it, and you no longer see her profile on TER. I did this community a big favor by that. The mediocre providers I usually just don't review at all. There have been alot of them. My grading is consistent with the rest of the reviewers on TER, and you can see that by how many other guys give the girls 10 that I also give 10. The real problem already mentioned is that we've got hobbyists giving women in their 40s reviews of 10.I've always wondered who uses their own real life ratings rather than going by "TER ratings" for looks. If you see 100 girls it should be something like this.
90 will be a cute and fuckable 6. Since we see them fixed up they look better than a 5
8 will be an attractive 7. She is attractive enough for most to notice her if she walked into a bar.
2 will be really hot and a legit 8. An 8 is a girl that everybody would stare at and notice.
There are NO 9 or 10 types in hooker land.
These numbers are not meant to be exact but they reflect my experience. I'm judging by real world standards.
What is your experience?
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I've hung out in other groups/places. No difference in ratings
Yeah, I'm kind of UTR!
Two Grand!!!!
Perhaps you haven't been around the block enough! LOL
Better hit the strip clubs then sir.
Is that too many of those that review are not able to nor likely have ever been around really hot women.
So all they have to go by are prostitutes who photoshop their pics to attract those johns, and then the johns don't know what real hotness is. Shit, some of these johns will give any and all a 10 just for breathing.
I agree with your synopsis. The typical bell shaped curve simply does not apply in P4P here.
If real world standards were applied, most of the prostitutes would be thrilled with a 6, let alone a 7 in appearance. Most however are in the 4-5 range. Just like in real life.
90 will be a cute and fuckable 6. Since we see them fixed up they look better than a 5
8 will be an attractive 7. She is attractive enough for most to notice her if she walked into a bar.
2 will be really hot and a legit 8. An 8 is a girl that everybody would stare at and notice.
There are NO 9 or 10 types in hooker land.
These numbers are not meant to be exact but they reflect my experience. I'm judging by real world standards.
What is your experience?
but unfortunately, if we are going to go by the average woman here, TER scores are at least two full grades higher and in many cases three or four grades higher than my own personal rating system. Actually I may be even be a bit generous in my assessment.
I can't honestly say that many TER hookers who average a 7 in looks make it even to 5 on the GaGa scale. A TER six is most likely a two to me. and a five completely falls off my rating scale.
Now where I disagree with OTM is that there are indeed some 9's here in hooker land, but the problem is that the BSU give out ten's like candy so you can't really separate the 10 who should be a six from the TER 10 who legitimately deserves a nine. I will concede that out of a hundred "average" TER hookers I really don't expect to find a single GaGa 9, they are more like one out of every couple of hundred hookers, but they do exist.
Back to my personal rating system, I will allow that many, probably not most, but many of the solid 8's and 9's here on TER get solid sixes and sevens from me, with a seven being quite fuckable in my book. A GaGa seven that is, not a TER seven who most likely is about as attractive as the average housekeeping maid at a Red Roof Inn.
I suspect you find the 9's in hooker land outside the United States.
but yeah, you got me. The only ones I've fucked or even seen in person were in other countries. I am sure they exist right here at home, but I have never met a hooker in the USA that made a solid nine on the GaGa scale. Maybe if I see enough different women before I die, I might just find one of those fabled unicorns right here at home, but time is running out I suppose. lol
Over the years I've met many many prostitutes for play. Most of them have been OK looking, but certainly not DDG. I know many of them get 10s routinely on TER. They are very nice women too, but if I am going to just rate on appearance, then as you said, most are in the 6-7 range. And that's above average compared to the total population.
But I have a particular type that I like which others might find not to their tastes. And vice-versa.
What I do wonder is why some of these guys give out 10s to the really older prostitutes. I guess if they're comparing that prostitute to women who are also over 50 or 60 that's OK. But how can a guy really state that a 49 y/o prostitute is even close to a 10 compared to a hot young 24 y/o?
I can't honestly say that many TER hookers who average a 7 in looks make it even to 5 on the GaGa scale. A TER six is most likely a two to me. and a five completely falls off my rating scale.
Now where I disagree with OTM is that there are indeed some 9's here in hooker land, but the problem is that the BSU give out ten's like candy so you can't really separate the 10 who should be a six from the TER 10 who legitimately deserves a nine. I will concede that out of a hundred "average" TER hookers I really don't expect to find a single GaGa 9, they are more like one out of every couple of hundred hookers, but they do exist.
Back to my personal rating system, I will allow that many, probably not most, but many of the solid 8's and 9's here on TER get solid sixes and sevens from me, with a seven being quite fuckable in my book. A GaGa seven that is, not a TER seven who most likely is about as attractive as the average housekeeping maid at a Red Roof Inn.
Those types of scores make a mockery out of the entire rating system and makes the numerical scores all but worthless. I only use the numerical scores to exclude women I know will NOT be attractive, not the other way around.
IOW a woman with all nines and tens "Might" be attractive, but I wouldn't bet my life (or my money) on it, but a TER six is guaranteed to be too homely for me to ever consider. So I suppose the system is not 100% a waste of time, but not a hell of a lot of use to anyone with discriminating taste.
Have you ever see a 10? Does one exist? If not, why have a 10-point rating system?
Since the 10 point system is at most a five point system in practice, with 1-5 being essentially meaningless as a TER six translates into "butt fucking ugly" I say expand it to a 1-100 rating system,. which would mean a usable scale of 70-100 with everything below a 70 being "too ugly to fuck"
A 99 would still allow for the ability to find a woman just a little bit hotter some time in your life, while still being able to express that fact that her looks blew you away. It wouldn't cure the problem of no taste on the part of the reviewer, but I think it would give the guys with taste more options on how to rate the actual hotties.
If they were walking by on the street, I'd probably snap my neck.
I've seen photos of a couple who look like legitimate 10's. I'd have to see them in person to verify.
The real 10 in my view is Sophia Loren when she was about 28 to 30, but that's unrealistic.
Heidi Klum when she was around 25 was a perfect 10. It's unrealistic to expect hookers to be 9-10 types. If they were that hot they would not be here!
Betty White types
Considering she's a +90 now, she might do really well here.
See now, you pick out someone like a Heidi Klum. She's not my type, but for you she's a perfect 10. As for prostitutes who honestly would rate a real world 9 or 10, I agree they're not prostitutes. They find men who are dumb, and wealthy enough to pay some serious coin. In the P4P world, it's just too tough to make money for most prostitutes.
There is no such thing as a 10 but when she was young I thought she was close.
Most 9's or close to 10's either become models or actresses or really do marry wealthy men. It really is true that comparing a 40 year old to a 22 year old is silly. That's why the TER ratings are silly.
Another problem is the way they lie about their age. A guy seeing an advertised 33 year old is getting a 40 something in most cases. Few ever mention how badly they lie about age. The ages given are just as far off as the looks ratings.
Since Heidi Klum is not your type, who would you rate close to a 10?
However it's highly subjective. I have no doubt that some guys here can see a +50 prostitute as a 10. Same as some see a young 23 y/o as a 10. I can't criticize someones personal likes or tastes. Any more than someone can criticize mine.
There are all kinds of rating scales on the web. There is never a consensus on what perfection is, and never will be. But to someone they see that image, or person, as perfection.
I would prefer to just sit at a mall watching the young women stroll around. And if I'm lucky, once in a few thousand there is that one that I would consider a 10. It should be a rare occurrence. In P4P and the ratings here, it happens quite often apparently. Moreso for some guys. I don't know what they are looking at, but it's certainly not my type. Perhaps with ACA they can get cataract surgery and the ratings will finally equalize.
Most 9's or close to 10's either become models or actresses or really do marry wealthy men. It really is true that comparing a 40 year old to a 22 year old is silly. That's why the TER ratings are silly.
Another problem is the way they lie about their age. A guy seeing an advertised 33 year old is getting a 40 something in most cases. Few ever mention how badly they lie about age. The ages given are just as far off as the looks ratings.
Since Heidi Klum is not your type, who would you rate close to a 10?
So now you're saying I'm right? I can't believe that. Oh wait. You're yanking my chain. DUH.
It was just more marketing bull$hit.
If you define a 10 as someone who is at the 98th percentile or above of 20 something girls, I've seen one of those.
If a 9 is 95th-98th percentile, probably 20% of my experiences would count as a 9 ( maybe 3 providers total).
This is paying 400-700 per hour in the bay area
Your post is a perfect reflection of what the OP stated. You say that maybe 20% of your provider experiences are really a 9 "maybe 3 total". Yet your review history shows 73% have rated a 10. Hmmmm.
Now, I realize that maybe some of your reviews have dropped out of sight and also that you may not have reviewed all of your provider experiences. I don't mean to pick on you personally, but it does go to show that grade inflation is rampant here on TER.
As GG pointed out up top, I wouldn't mind quite so much - everybody has their own tastes - but it does make it very difficult to find the true 9's and 10's in a sea of over-ratings. Oh well, TER is not perfect, but it is better than nothing.
Excepting a few early reviews I made, whenever I give a 10 it's for a woman that is above the 93rd percentile of early twenties women- one out of 15 or so. Been to a college recently? That's well within the range of "fucking hot" as far as I'm concerned. So yes, one girl was in the top 2%, another 3 or 4 in the next 3%, and then another 4 or 5 in the next 2%.
73% of my reviews have a 10, but what about the ones I didn't review? I singlehandedly ruined one providers business by a very negative review I left of her, and she dropped out and is no longer providing, at least in the bay area. She deserved it, and you no longer see her profile on TER. I did this community a big favor by that. The mediocre providers I usually just don't review at all. There have been alot of them.
My grading is consistent with the rest of the reviewers on TER, and you can see that by how many other guys give the girls 10 that I also give 10. The real problem already mentioned is that we've got hobbyists giving women in their 40s reviews of 10.
In any world or any standard of 1-10 isn't 10 supposed to denote PERFECTION?
Theoretically speaking there should not be a 10 or it should exist exceeding rare, say 1 in 100 millions rare.
10 = PERFECTION = It is impossible to improve upon.
But I guess in real life some dudes think any pussy on two leg is a 10 because they are THAT desperate!
Simply put, the scoring REFLECTS the scorer's own personal standard that's all. Beauty in the eye of the beholders including those who are blind I guess... LOL
recent reviewer (or more) and ask if her pics are accurate.
The single best looking woman I have ever been with is a provider and would rate a 10 on any scale. She is one of the best looking women I have ever seen. She could have been a model. I have also been with a few providers who would rate a 9. And I am not inexperienced, either in the civvie world or the pfp world. So your blanket statement that there are NO 9 or 10 types in hooker land is just wrong IMO.
For those of you who don't see 10s EVER, you're just supremely picky, but part of the problem is the TER system calling a 10 one in a lifetime. That's what's broken. In the real world, men I know don't think a 10 means beauty that's one in a million or billion or some such nonsense, but certainly it means she is in the top percent or two of beauty. 1% of all women is still a lot of women.
Someone mentioned Heidi Klum at 25, but I think she still looks great now at 42. Renee Russo at 45 was pretty darn hot, too. I assure you, even in the plain jane world, a 42 yo HK or a 45 yo RR absolutely would turn heads in a bar and would have guys slobbering all over them (actually, probably many would be too intimidated to hit up a 10 - some college buddies told me 7-9 was ideal cause those ladies were more approachable - that's how REAL WORLD guys think). If Megan Fox were a provider, some crazy picky TER dude would rate her a 8/9 cause he hasn't lived out his lifetime yet or he prefers Asians or bigger boobies (and then WTF did he book her?). It's actually delusional to think that many normal non-hobbying men wouldn't rate my examples a 10 -- true, I am sure some guys would still give them 9s -- but they'd have their 10 raters all the same.
However, I agree TER ratings can be inflated and inconsistent. There is a girl I met who frequently gets 9s and has a face that can only be called homely (and it's not just me who thinks that - I had to stop myself from staring when I met her cause she's just that plain looking, like below average - maybe a 4). Another person I know of gets a lot of 9s & 10s & ought to be an 8. There is an 8 lady that isn't that great looking but has some assets that apparently make up for that (maybe the guys never see her face). On the other hand, I know a lady who gets a lot of 8s, and I think she should get 8s (the homely girl has a higher looks rating which doesn't make sense). I've also seen a lady who gets 7s... and she's what I'd describe as cute - she's definitely prettier than the homely girl with the 9s!
In the older days, ratings here were lower, but since many hobbyists eliminate based on the numbers, the system is now all skewed. Some (not all) ladies try to manipulate the system, and some guys know how bad a lower rating will be to a lady, so they hate to be honest.
I also enjoy viewing the female curves in a variety of packages from different ages to different ethnicities.
Can't say I've been disappointed with the looks of any of the women here so far. Now performance of said providers can be YMMV and I have on rare occasion been disappointed there, regardless if they are a 10 or a 6 in appearance.
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With age, things change, so for example, "acceptable" levels for certain tests of sugar (HbA1C if you must know) change. Your post suggests a new area for research: Female attractiveness ratings normalized for rater's age. The older I get the more women become attractive to me. (Each woman seems more attractive than she would have been when I was 25 years younger and more women seem attractive.) I saw a lady the other day (not reviewed by me) who was not well rated for looks, but I found her attractive to me (particularly after some excellent DATY.)
I seem to be a much harder grader as I get older and much less likely to fuck a "so so" woman, much less an ugly one.
When I was in my twenties I was a walking erection, the crack of dawn wasn't safe around me and I'd fuck a pig if the pig was willing. Now at my "advanced age" of late fifties I don't drink cheap booze and I don't fuck ugly women, and even cheap booze won't get me to fuck homely women.
As I get older I too am less likely to settle for crap food, boring hotels, or poor seats to call games, but women who I would not have found attractive are actually more attractive to me. Older ears hear the same sounds as younger ones, but those sound are richer in lower frequency sounds than the same sound to younger ears more able to here high-pitched sounds. My eyes see women and they are actually more attractive than they would have been.