Sure thing. I'm not sure why u didn't Google it but here u go:
http://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/consumer-review-fairness-act-what-businesses-need-know
I’ve recently reviewed two K-girls. The infamous Kiss and Gloria. I’m getting harassed by the agencies for giving middle aged women low scores on looks and performance and their profiles are all bait and switch like. Do you all feel the same way? Because every time I post a low review I am asked to provide confirmation that I saw these middle aged women. Should we just start posting the exact location of the agencies in our reviews?
I wouldn't consider her "middle aged", especially not her body.
I read your review of her and think you're way off. It seems like you saw someone else, based on your description. DS has a stellar reputation and you seem to be the type who is never satisfied.
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My inquiry pertains to how a visitor might successfully navigate DS's stringent screening process. While I am not familiar with the other establishment in Philadelphia, it is well known among DMV hobbyists that DS maintains one of the most rigorous screening protocols in the area and is selective about accepting new clients. Although DS occasionally opens its doors to a limited number of new clients, the likelihood is quite low. The chances are nearly nonexistent for a new visitor who simply visits their website and attempts to schedule a same-day or even same-week appointment with one of their escorts. Just curious and my 2cents.
I had no issues getting cleared by them.
They're no more strict with screening than many indies are.
This is subjective. Especially when you are seeing pics of 22 year old models and you get a 35 year old woman. He has the right to review as he sees it.
Are you suggesting that TER start allowing reviews, or board posts, that provide specific location information? If that is your suggestion then NO! we, and you, should not be doing that.
Who is asking you to provide some comfirmation anyhow? I don't think TER is, unless they just don't trust your reviews. If the agency is asking that doesn't make a lot of sense. But more importantly, if the agency is not giving you what you want go somewhere else. Why keep giving you money to a business you think is bad?
Your handel shows 2 reviews. Don't know if that means new to this activity, new to TER or a new account on TER so any other reviews not showing here. But your post sounds a bit newbieish so perhaps there's a learning curve for you to get through. Simple hint, ads are ads, not product specifications. Provider profiles are created when the first review is submitted and approved and most are probably never updated so the details becomes dated pretty fast. You need to vet reviewers even more than providers as they are your source of information. Different people have different tastes and preferences. You'll also find that there is a wide range of ages and that matters to what reviews say. You need to find reviews that share you tastes/preferences and then you will have excellent information for decision making. If not, even when you have reviews from experienced reviewers you have much less certain information -- other than you're not going to get robbed, ripped or or spend the night in jail (at least not likely for any of them to happen).
Jensen, if you haven't read his review of Kiss (who I haven't seen and know nothing about) you should take a look. Here are two passages that show who he is and how he treats ladies:
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"She’s not used to the men she services be so large and wants me to ease into her. I slowly penetrate but she can’t handle it. I’m not dropping 360 on a BJ so I tell her to get herself ready for it. . . . After a bit of stiff play I take my cock out and jerk it onto her face and mouth."
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"I ask for round 2 and she hesitates because she can’t take it. I plop her down on her back and try again but she’s closing her legs and not letting me in. I shove my cock in her mouth and explode on her tits."
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Is it any wonder why he seems to have bad experiences? His attitude seems to be if he's paying they have to do it his way no matter whether it hurts them or they enjoy it. One would hope the KAgencies catch up with him and he gets blacklisted if that's how he treats the ladies.
Poor girl. No one should be treated this way. I don't blame her for closing her legs. Dude needs to chill and treat her like a lady.
Jesus Christ. He would be lucky if he just got away with a blacklist.
What he did sounds very very....R*PEY......
And just a friendly reminder that LE and the FBI do have access to this board and do read it.
He may not get caught, but if you see this place getting shut down for sex trafficking you can blame idiots like this that do this type of behavior and then WRITE A REVIEW detailing their idiotic and criminal behavior. Mind blowing.
Also, shame on TER for allowing reviews like this to be posted. Money being exchanged does not negate consent.
NOT good for this gal and for sure not good for the industry.
Disgusting on all levels.
That's exactly the word I was thinking about but was reluctant to say in my post.
No VIP so no, have not read his review. But agee that that tone seems one that is not going to work well with many providers and certainly not the K-agencies that I've ever done business with.
That said, if he is that well endowed he probably should mention something about it when scheduling. Though I'm kind of interested in the comment about scheduling with DS. Not sure if that is where the reviewed session was suppose to have occurred but it was and he's as new as it seems I might have some doubts about the reviews as well.
But, unfortunately there are some here that do think paying, or getting paid for sex, means the girl is expected to put up with anything the guy wants. And maybe that's what was expected from an Asia provider that some seem to think are all submissive. I would guess that he won't be seeing many K-agency girls in the future.
No age was listed on their ads. Were you expected low 20s? Middle aged to me, means 50+, but that's because I'm old.
I’ve never seen Kiss, but I’ve seen Gloria a few times. Here’s my take.
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The looks score is subjective, so you’re entitled to your opinion. She is clearly very late 30s or early 40s. Then again, most KGirls are older than their advertised ages; everyone knows that. But Gloria has an incredibly tight body and great skin. In my opinion there’s no way that a reasonable, objective gent could score her looks as a 5. Every time I saw her she was shower fresh, well dressed, and looked incredibly sexy.
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The performance score is much less subjective. She has 370 reviews. I went back a couple of years and your performance score is the lowest. So, there are a few reasonable conclusions. First, you are an unreasonable grader. Or, second, something about you, your hygiene, or your attitude turned her off and it was reflected in how she treated you. Or, maybe, you’re working for a competitor and trying to hurt her business. And, finally, there is the possibility that you are the most unlucky guy in the world and you happened to see Gloria on the worst hour of her hobby life. I don’t know what happened, but from my experience there’s no way she can be a 5 in performance.
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I reach this conclusion: maybe KGirls aren’t for you. You have seen two KGirls with long histories of great reviews and both were disappointing to you. That screams out that you are the problem. Maybe you would be better served by dating non-KGirls who might better meet your expectations.
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Just my $0.02.
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I recommend reposting this on the K-Girl Board at https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113
You're likely to receive a variety of feedback, both positive and negative, as well as different perspectives on your claim.
If needed you can provide text proof to TER
Its unacceptable that any agency harasses a client over an honest bad review. They need to be held accountable.
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No I didn't read his reviews.
Was there something there that indicated that his reviews are untruthful or dishonest?
If not, what exactly is your point? You think it's OK to harass people over truthful reviews?
Someone posted a few snipets of his review above. He treats the lady like a piece of meat. She seems scared, and he doesn't seem to gaf. And these are his words, so lord knows what it may have really been like for her.
On the one hand, you’ve got DS (excellent reputation in the DMV) and two very well reviewed providers. On the other hand we’ve got a dude with two bad reviews making a serious allegation. A reviewer who probably has heard back from the agency post session and it likely wasn’t a pleasant “see you next time!” conversation. So in this case I seriously and with good reason can question the motives, as others have in this thread, of said reviewer.
Ohhh I get it now.
Instead of focusing on agency harassing a person for writing a bad review -- something they have ZERO right to ever do if the review is honest and truthful...
We instead decide to say that the person is a rapist, assassinate his character and sweep the harassment over a truthful review under a rug? Slowclap.
See, unlike others I don't care who the reviewer is, he could wear a mustache and cuss loudly in German and measure skulls, and I wouldn't care.
Truthful and honest negative reviews should never result in sellers harassing customers. Period.
A customer can have an opinion of someone that is dissenting from other people's opinion. In fact, they're encouraged to.
I asked, were the reviews untruthful or dishonest?
Or is the narrative now that agencies harass him because "his review is rapey" instead of his review being low scored?
Ie, if his review were the same but given high grades, do you think they'd still harass him? Lol.
I’m assuming the review narrative is truthful. I’m assuming by now that you’ve read the reviews in question. Do you think the narrative is truthful?
I’m not assuming his numerical scoring is honest. Are you?
I’m not assuming his allegation of agency harassment over a “bad review” is truthful. Are you? If there’s any communication going on between the reviewer and the agency, I think there’s more to the story than displeasures with a low score.
I haven't read the reviews. I had my vip lapsed and I can't view them currently.. I will read them in due time.
"I’m not assuming his allegation of agency harassment over a “bad review” is truthful. Are you?"
Since this is the premise of the thread, don't we have to assume this is true? If it's not true, then the whole thing is a moot point.
If he wasn't harassed, what would be the point in him posting the post?
I don't understand your logic, why do we have to assume anything OP says is true? He posted it so it much be true? are you saying people who post are incapable of lying?
Anyway, I don't think the issue here is honesty of reviews. The issue is that OP has revealed themselves to be a dangerous client. For some people that has damaged OPs credibility. Personally, I don't care about his complaints regarding reviews because I don't want him posting reviews even if they are legit. I don't want him in this community because he is a threat to the providers and if we tolerate this crap providers will rightly start viewing the rest of us as a threat. This is why the women hate review boards.
The op says - I've been harassed by agencies
I say - report them to TER, that's unacceptable and NO ONE should harass you for writing a low scoring review as long as it's truthful and honest.
Cks asks - have I read his reviews?
What exactly don't you get here? The assumption is that he really is harassed and that his reviews are honest and truthful. Hence me telling him to report his actions. If what he said is true.
You expect me to question his character, find chinks in his armor and then ignore the harassment over bad reviews?
No, this is from org and dishonest provider playbook. They love to do that shit. That's they way they do damage control.
Because they treat bad reviews like someone is out for their pockets. When it isn't and never was their lane. A customer has a right to write any review he desires as long as it's truthful and honest.
You may or may not want him to write reviews, but that is irrelevant here. It's not about your assessment of anyone's character. It's about zero tolerance for clients getting push back for negative reviews. This bullying shit needs to stop.
There is a whole thread of responses and information here. When you seemed to not have read it, it was brought to your attention. You have stubbornly chosen to ignore said information and doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on your stance that the agency is wrong and he is right. You are basically taking the side of a boarderline rapist over an agency trying to protect one of their ladies. Way to go Q.
I said, if someone is being harassed over a negative and truthful review, this is wrong. I recommended them to report harassment to ter.
This is what was given in the op.
There is no double or triple down.
If someone is being harassed over a negative review, provided that it's truthful and honest, this is wrong. Period. I don't give a shit if the guy is a dictator or a POs. If the review was an accurate description of a session and he's being harassed over the scores and what is said in a review, that is not good and bully behavior.
The agency might have issues with how how treated girls in question, but that doesn't give them any right to harass him to take down a truthful and honest review.
He didn't clarify what confirmation he was asked for, but usually ter asks for confirmation when someone disputes the review for validity (and usually they say the review never happened).
So if the review
Once again, you and others want to start with character evaluation over review correctness.
Is the review honest and correct?
If yes - > agency has no right to try to take down a negative review.
If no -> fuck him and his review should be taken down
All the other shit is irrelevant. What's so fucking hard to get?
The moment you start discrediting people over bad reviews, is the moment every seller will try to do this when they get a bad review. Because why not? Once again, if the review is honest and accurate, it stands on its own. It should never be removed from the public view.
I'm always one for honest reviews. I've been an advocate for them from day one. And, if what he wrote is true, I don't think he should change it to make it seem peachy either. I actaully think TER should not allow it and should ban him though. He sounds like a threatening and unsafe person. He absolutely deserves to be harrased. I am not forgiving him if he's being honest. He crossed a line. The agency is not wrong if he behaived this way. I see this as protecting their employee.
Correct answer Z, thank you. I am going to go out on a limb and say that the OP is being harassed because he SEXUALLY ASSAULTED A SEX WORKER AND ADMITTED TO IT IN A REVIEW.
And once again when I think some of the people on this website can't get any lower....here we are.
Because of this assessment of him as an unsafe person seems to overshadow everything else to you. Isn't it definiton of black and white?
You claimed that I somehow didn't get it. No, I got it. I got it well and explained thoroughly to you what I think. Now you're somehow trying to tell me that Im wrong.
Unlike you, I've spent a lot of time with korg agencies, I know how they operate, I know what their shills say, I know their MO when it comes to a new girl receiving a bad public review. I know their shit methods of going at people who dare to write negative public reviews. Like Ive said, both first hand and second hand. I've seen it all.
I've watched it, documented it and defended mongers. Do you know what the #1 accusation was for mongers who toftt and give honest negative reviews? You guessed it, that they were too rough or demanding. This is a playbook where the agency and their lap dogs and stooges attempt to do damage control and attempts to silence negative opinions in order to maximize profits. Because a lot less people will see a new girl if the first few reviews are negative. So they toy with people's lives and lie about it to damage their credibility and make girl have some traffic.
As long as a review was honest and accurate, agencies or providers have no stake left in it. Not everyone gonna like you. That's the way cookie crumbles sometimes. Harassing someone because of a negative review that is truthful, is wrong. Period.
I'm not sure how many times I can reiterate this very simple concept.
The same people in this thread who seem OK with hrassment over negative reviews - stood by and couldn't condemn an org which openly wrote that customers will be bld if they were to write a review of less than 8 on ter. And then when ter caught whiff of this and banned that agency, these same dudes blamed me for standing up for customer rights because now no one could review these girls here. Talk about black and white huh.
There are agencies on here that factually have pmd people and demanded to not do public reviews before internal reviews. POS tactic. Once a session happened, there is nothing to discuss with po or provider. If I feel a certain way about a session, there is nothing to talk about. You can't bribe me (you can try but I will air it out right away that you tried to bribe me, so go ahead and try me lol), you can't tell me a les miserables story because I will laugh at your face. The only way you're getting rid of a negative review that is accurate and truthful is over my dead body.
And if you try to run away from negative reviews, by rebranding etc, I will make sure to track such identity changes and remind people of those reviews.
What Zeel is doing is pointing out that different aspects of a situation DO have differing levels of importance and relivence that need to be taken into account.
Giving Carte Blanche to agencies and providers to cry wolf and allow harassment of real reviews, is your definition of shades of grey I guess. Well awesome because they already do that.
They like power and hate to lose money. But they for some reason think they have the right to manipulate reviews.
No review, as long as it's honest and truthful and accurately depicts what went on, shall have the seller of any good or service retaliate for being negative.
There are no fucking extenuating factors and no loopholes and no, ahem, "relivence".
I thoifht I was perfectly clear when I included adolph h, as someone who could be writing a review. But I guess thats still hards for people to register.
When a real agency was harassing it's own clients and fucked up by publicly posting it, you and stood pat and didn't even have the balls to condemn it.
You're like twice older than me yet I think I will die before you admit an agency having fault in manipulating reviews and attacking truthful reviews because they make them lose money.
If only they spent as much time improving their product quality instead of hunting unfavorable reviews. Fucking clowns.
Black and white means it’s this or that and nothing in between. What you are doing is exactly that. He wrote the review, not the agency. He chose his words, not the agency. What we read was him describing overly aggressive borderline rapist behavior. We have no idea what the agency is accusing him of. It’s many of us that are accusing based on his words.
I have made it overly clear that I agree reviews should be honest. A review should not be taken down solely on it being negative. But holly shit are you kidding me? Keep it up when it’s describing how he aggressively man handled her? So you’re saying if a client rapes an escort, if it’s the honest truth, it should stay up as a review. What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
This has nothing to do with experience with korgs and what they may routinely do. I’m not denying that is your experience. If this was just a negative review about service I would actually agree with you. But it’s him sharing that he forced himself on her when she was not welcoming it. Paying for an escort is not permission to rape her. And something of this magnitude shouldn’t be posted on a review site. And he should not be allowed here.
My gosh, read the fucking room.
As a certain rap freestyle goes, "seen many islands from caymans to rikers" 
I don't think you understand. I never have to read the room here because I don't give a shit what people think of me. I don't mind being the only person with a certain opinion. "It's just tme against the world baaaby"
But You're using fallacy of appeal to majority here.
One more time.if agency does not like how he treated the girl, they have a right to harass him. Blacklist him or tell him to kick rocks. Absolutely. Fuck rapists in the asshole.
What they never, ever have a right to do is to demand to take down or fix a review because it's too negative. Zero right. They peddle a product, a customer finds a product unsatisfactory and delivers his datapoint. That's it. I don't give a shit if they lose their own biz as a result of the review and all jump off the bridge. You signed up for a job that has ppl review your products and services online, don't manipulate reviews. Take them as they are. Just like many can take a dick.
If the customer said a provider is a three, she is a three to him. As long as review is honest and truthful.
over three years ago on the Kgirl board about his binary approach to everything. Here's the link to the first one. There are over a dozen more after that. Lol
Cdl you should really stay in your lane.
You are the one who was creating bogeyman about how sdag booker/owner told mongers they shouldn't give less than 8s on ter or else they would be blacklisted.
When confronted about it, you tucked your tail and ran. You very well knew sdag does this - you yourself told people about it, just not publicly.
When I gave indisputable proof of the org literally posting this themselves, you claimed I was using some weird site when I used archive.ph to capture the org the owner you're bffs with
Lying to all the fellow mongers is so fucking pathetic. And you had no problem lying to mongers and everyone just to have that shit org stay afloat.
(and may I note - the fat pos who runs the org never even apologized to his own clients for bullying. Fucking clown)
Lol at me having binary viewpoint when people here lose their shit when they see the word rape and think nothing applies in these situations.
Theres nothing binary about it. I have never, ever negotiated with terrorists and never will.
Anyone who tries to silence negative reviews is a terrorist to me. If you own a biz and try to create fake positive reviews to up your review, fuck you. If you hunt like a hawk for negative reviews and harass reviewers who write truthful and honest negative reviews fuck you. I sincerely hope your biz goes belly up yesterday. And I'll pop a bottle. Dont fuck mongers over. Reviews are never for you. That you're able to make money off good reviews is just a side effect.
Hope you're having a lovely day btw.
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You need only to look at my review history to see that I have not seen a single girl from that org in nearly 7 years. You're making shit up again. When it comes to you, my lane is down the middle, so you best stay out of the way. Lol
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Oh, I don’t know. Maybe he’s been blacklisted/banned for his own admittedly bad behavior? Maybe he’s using an allegation of harassment as a form of retaliation?
By the way, you don’t have assume the allegation of harassment is a premise that must be true. That’s a complete fallacy.
So let me get this straight. If he pays to have sex with her, he can be abusive and if she is anything but submissive, her service is bad and she therefore deserves a bad review? Is this what you are saying? As long as he is being truthful, they have not right to confront him?
If I was running an escort service I would see it as part of my job to protect my ladies. If one of my best who provided great service and was well reviewed had an abussive client who then blamed her for not taking it, aka providing bad service, I for sure as shit would call him out. They have every right to protect their employees.
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there were bookers who would send an "Attitude Adjuster" to see a guy who got rapey or rough with a Kgirl. It was very effective in curbing the kinds of abuse described by this reviewer in his own words, which in reality was probably even worse than he admits to.
I think DS has a lot more credibility than this guy has. Maybe they contacted him, maybe they didn't. But I don't see the gal who runs DS "harassing" any client.
This jerk admitted that he was abusive towards Kiss (I didn't read his Gloria review). Based on his attitude towards women I lend no credence to his complaints about harassment. Maybe they contacted him to tell him that he was banned from further business with DS so he's striking back.
I've seen Kiss. She is sweet, giving, eager to please, has great skills and an amazing body. A real gem.
Between an agency and a random client, I personally will take the clients word if I have zero facts.
Simply off experience in how little tolerance the agencies and many providers have for negative reviews. I've seen it first hand and second hand. I know how they operate. They have monetary incentive to do damage control and will often attempt to suggest the client did something wrong in order to destroy the credibility of a negative review.
They never hold honesty and integrity above the bottom line. And hence I always hold two middle fingers to bullies like them. That's why I always say PUBLIC feedback is 10x better than private feedback. And that public feedback should be treated normally.
Let me ask you this. You have seen Kiss and you like her. Does this mean anyone who sees Kiss and does not like her, lacks credibility or maybe he just got a different opinion?
I've had many instances where I'd recommend my atfs or girls I really liked to a friend, and he's had mediocre experiences with them. Did I assume he did something wrong? Did I tell him to not post reviews?
No, the first thing Id say is write the review so others can know that even with well reviewed well liked girls, bad sessions can happen and for others with similar tastes to know worst case scenarios. I encourage anyone to write a public review even if it seems a dissenting opinion. Not all sessions are created equal.
He’s a rape apologist.
Every rapist is a piece of shit and I never defended them.
What I do defend tho, is that truthful and honest reviews should stay up and not be asked to be taken down because they're negative. No matter who wrote them. Adolph, Musk, Bezos, Dalai fucking Lama or Mother Theresa. Reviews ain't got no face. Are they truthful? Yes? Then they stay.
A concept many seem to have cognitive problems with, somehow.
So you disregard his own words?
What?
Am I in fucking bizarro world or something?
What part of "as long as review is honest and truthful regardless of whom it was written by, it should stay and the writer shouldn't be harassed for it being negative" is so unclear to people?
Where did I disregard anything?
This is like that situation where a poster on here had shocked pikachu face when I said that "friends and family" reviews is lying to customer and a piece of shit practice.
Yes, using your friends and family to review a product you peddle favorably, simply because they know you, is wrong.
Attempting to remove reviews simply because of them being negative is also wrong.
Did I stutter or something?
He's pretty clear that he will defend anyone's right to write and honest review and could care less if it's someone we should even believe, someone that wants to force himself one someone else or even somone that murders the girl and then writes an hoest review about how she was just like a dead fish and so gets very low performance scores presumably.
That is what he's been clearly saying. Just agree with him on this.
I didn't ask for anyone to agree with me.
In fact I didn't write anything to others. I only responded to the person and told him to report harassment (if he is telling the truth) to TER and that is unacceptable.
In return, I was told I defend a rapist and other nonsense. No, I never have and never will. I never defended his actions or any other rapist actions. Not in this thread not in any other thread.
What I defended and will always continue to defend is the fact if the review is honest and truthful, it should not be attempted to be taken down because it's a negative review.
This rule is the same for everyone. That's how rules work. You don't get to cherry pick who they apply to simply because you don't like a person or if the person is a POS. You don't. That's double standards. Just like it is a double standard to treat providers differently than other sellers in other biz.
RULES apply to everyone. You don't get to selectively omit the rules or apply them based on your outlook of morality.
This is what you double standard wielders fail to understand. There are no exceptions. There are no corollaries.
I never defended the op yet people think I have. What I defended is a right of every consumer on the planet to write a truthful, negative review without being bullied only because the review is negative and hurting their biz. The biz is irrelevant.
But because I somehow defended that right, you translated that into "rocket is rape apologist". Where did you see me defending rape? Clowns.
When you institute rules that apply selectively depending on who a person is and what you think of this person, what are these rules worth? Not a goddamn thing.
But it seems the concept of defending "rights" is lost on people. The concept of him being a rapist overshadows so much in their mind they want to waive rights because they despise the person so much.
Why don't we waive Miranda rights for rapists too! What do ya say? If you're a rapist, you don't get your constitutional rights.
You know what, let's just execute them on the spot! They don't deserve rights!
That's what yall think huh. But yet somehow Miranda rights still apply to rapists. Right to attorney still applies to rapists.
Yall should go to Supreme Court and claim the constitutional rights are too black and white. Do it.
Your extremism on reviews is well known here at TER, but you’ve really gone off the deep end defending this guy’s reviews.
Once again I never defended this guy or his reviews I haven't even read yet.
I've defendedd everyones right to have their negative reviews not be protested by the seller. As long as the review is accurate.
Yes, everyone means EVERYONE. Every single person on this earth who writes reviews has this fundamental consumer right.
You don't get to waive this right at your fucking discretion.
There are no exception to this.
Once again, did I stutter?
call Gloria a Kgirl, I think she is more of an indie, maybe, using a Korg/PO to book for her, just MO!
Her site says she likes people, curious, did you make her like list?
Kiss sounds like more of a Kgirl to me.
There are a few non Kgirls in So Cal hooked up with Korgs and from what I've read their service is not up to par with Kgirls!
All that is subjective and YEMV as how the session can go.
No one should be harassed by an org for an honest review!
Sounds like you're unhappy and the Korgs don't care for you, so while the gettin' is good, you ought to travel out of Ktown!
Especially how you look at and treat the Kgirls, all women too?, you probably wouldn't last long anyway!
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Wow, thank you badger. First time we agree in a while!
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that, didn't know we had been disagreeing.
You are welcome, Rocket!
the guy is an asshole, arrogant, and dangerous, so the review is how he saw the session.
That's HIS honest review! Yes, it is fucked up how he acts with providers!
But I'm glad he outed himself how he treats them!
No one should be harassed, but he should be Blacklisted, and they should spread the word to other Orgs and Bookers!
Maybe he would share the harassing texts/communications he received.
Answer this, any of you double standard welders.
Do rapists have constitutional rights in this country?
Yes or fucking no?
Do answer.
Fuck your rules if they apply to whoever you find it convenient to apply to. And then call rules "black and white".
This guy is a fraud.
He said every time he gives a low score in a review he's harassed. Really? Every time, huh? He only has two reviews.
Kiss was never in Virginia in June. Not even close. The agency didn't even know about the review until just now when I told the woman who runs it. She's reporting it as a fake and will try to get it removed.
He hasn't come back to answer all the questions here so I guess he's hiding.
I have no issues with honest scores. Many things are subjective. Even 5-star restaurants get a shit review sometimes. But nothing he claims is backed up by any facts. As far as I'm concerned he has zero credibility.
The funniest thing is the more I look at this situation and the more I dig in, I agree!
I will of course put Marie of discreet story under a rocket audit. I will ping some guys who also gave low scores and ask whether or not she reached out to them, and if so, was there a demand to take down reviews or a threat...
So I'm planning to find out if the agency is really doing bullying or this guy is full of shit.
What people fail to get is this isn't about this guy in particular. Just like criminals all have constitutional rights, so do all consumers. And defending constitutional rights of criminals doesn't make you a criminal apologist. It makes you a rights apologist.
And I defend people's rights. I don't defend rapists. May all rapists have their dicks cut off.
"The agency didn't even know about the review until just now when I told the woman who runs it."
So you're saying they didn't contact him at all? Marie never contacted the op on this platform about his review of kiss?
that customers should be allowed to give a fair, honest review and not be presured or threatend by the provider or agency. This is just another of your watter is wet and why don't you agree with that responses.
But pretty much everyone else has moved on to the additional information that was revealed in the review, with part posted here, that make the issue about something else.
Whereas I don't.
This isn't the water is wet nonsense. Stop peddling bullshit Jensen.
Criminals don't lose their civil rights because they're criminals.
Do people get mad at people who tell criminals they have right s? No they don't.
So why did people get mad at me when I said it's unacceptable that negative reviews get harassed?
If this is "water is wet" why did they get mad about in my statemwnt? Maybe because I didn't stop drop and roll and screamed hes a rapist therefore none of the rules apply?
Yeah I'm never doing that. There is due process and rights. And rights don't get trangressed by anyone.
Rules. Always. Apply. Fuck your double standards. With no fucking lube.
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Are you getting paid by the word or the post? LET IT GO BRO. Your obsession makes you look stark raving mad. Toss back a gummy. Take the L. You wont remember any of this in the morning.
Gus must be rolling in dough^^!
Gus must be rolling in dough^^!
Still, My posts of late have been more "economical" than at other times.
make as much as before.
I'm pretty sure "rolling in dough" has been around for a while, but I didn't catch the pun when I wrote it.
What BS? No one here has said he no long should be allowed to post reviews and not have others threaten him for it. What they have been saying is that they question he even was being threatend for the review, thinking his self documented treatment of the girl is more likely the reason for any followup from the agency. So stop with your BS creation of strawman positions.
Did I get that right?
So, if there is proof that someone from DS did contact the op about the review, do you agree that by definition of lying, they would be liars?
Marie said she didn't know about the review. She didn't explicitly say that she did not contact the OP, but if she didn't know about the review why would she harass the OP about it?
All I'm saying is that DS has more credibility than the OP. He reviewed Kiss in June at a location in Tyson's but she was not there in June, she was in Pennsylvania.
There are too many questions about this bozo and he has not returned to follow up. My guess is that he never will. Unless and until that happens I consider him to be a liar.
Once again, does it make her a liar?
Do you agree that in the event of such scenario, discreet story and Marie would lose credibility (because they lied) and it will give me a carte Blanche to go to any DC/nova forum and then talk about how Marie lies so she or the agency shouldn't ever be trusted.
Do you agree with this?
I'm pretty sure TER mods/admins can read pms so they should know if marieDS contacted this guy about his review of Kiss.
Do you agree with this simple premise?
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It’s not a simple premise, it’s a confused premise. What if Marie didn’t contact the OP until after Holy let her know about this thread? You need to be more specific.
Obviously I'm talking about her contacting him before the op posted the thread. If he wasn't contacted, do you think he'd make this thread? Lol
There is nothing confusing about this premise.
It’s not a simple premise, it’s a confused premise. What if Marie didn’t contact the OP until after Holy let her know about this thread? You need to be more specific.
Obviously if she did, in fact, do something but said she didn't, that's lying. WTF is wrong with you? Why do I have to explicitly say that???
WTF is wrong with you?
The simple premise here is that you have injected yourself into this situation for all the wrong reasons and are helping no one.
You have not mentioned once, as in ZERO, any concern at all for the provider in question (Kiss). The normal human response would be to show empathy for the provider and do what needs to be done, even virtually (que holy's actions, thank you!!) to see if this provider is OK.
If in fact the OP did tell a truthful review he would be admitting that he SEXUALLY ASSAULTED a provider. That is what all of the normal humans that read the review got out of it. It would be a very good thing if he LIED.
You should have been sick to your stomach reading the review. All normal humans that read it were.
You really need to stop posting on this tread. You have so thoroughly embarrassed yourself here but also with this community. If you really cannot see how disillusioned your comments were here you really need to step back and reevaluate your life.
...he is on the wrong side of rapey reviews. He is really a sick, pathetic person and needs help. BADLY.
I'm a sick pathetic person and I need help because I believe no seller has a right to harass any customer over negative truthful and honest review (just because they're negative) ever?
Lol.
Whatever you say Robert. Im surprised you didnt call me a misogynist, would be on brand for ya.
If you think I give a single shit what you or scarlet or anyone else here think of me, you're mistaken.
I will continue to make sure any seller in any industry know their place and lane when it comes to reviews. Bullies who bully customers over truthful and honest negative reviews, get zero tolerance from me.
Oh and no one is paying me to post here. You keep posting shit addressed to me, I keep replying defending my position. Very simple.
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You have some TWO DOZEN extremely insecure replies JUST in THIS thread proving you do! Using CDL logic really isn't helping you bro. lol.
I'm not using any cdl logic. This whole thing about attempting to shame me or other bullshit doesn't work on me. Should ask guys like rh, Jensen or even cdl. They all "put me on ignore" in order for me to stop what I'm doing.
Every single one of them has then rem0ved me from ignore since then. Because they realized that I don't need an audience to state what I believe in and I don't care what they think of me.
Like I've said, you keep replying to me and I'll keep on replying back. I'm passionate about this, and I got all time in the world for things I'm passionate about.
All I have done is tell the op that he can report bullying to ter. I got bunch of people mad I didn't react a certain way.
Lol.
I visit this site - besides reading reviews - to make sure customers rights are not infringed upon. And I will keep on doing that whether the customer is a saint or the devil.
Not to be a shill but I've had this video on repeat, starting at 14:12 to around 16:15. This guy is a hero. Got that POS company scrambling. Fuck bullies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QNMVMlx48E&t=852s
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I visit this site - besides reading reviews - to make sure customers rights are not infringed upon. And I will keep on doing that whether the customer is a saint or the devil.
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However, I know what this is. Whenever you double and triple down on something stupid, you inevitably retreat to "customer rights." This is mental defense mechanism. We are criticizing your behavior and beliefs. Instead of examining yourself, you reframe your behavior and beliefs as a fight for "customer rights." Since you think it is a just and noble cause, you can justify bad beliefs and behavior. This makes it easier to deflect and avoid criticism.
the issue we're talking about is the main reason TER was created: to give mongers a venue where they could share information, expose bad providers and increase the chances guys could have a good outcome. It worked pretty well for a long time.
Very ironic that you would hide behind illegality to justify bad behavior by sellers, then accuse me of hiding behind customer rights.
It's kinda like cdl who always made fun of me and told me to go complain to BBB whenever rights were infringed upon.
And when I did catch an org who engaged in bad practices and my actions caused ter to ban the org (temporarily, sadly) cdl cried like a little bitch that I wasn't fair. And it was glorious.! He didn't cry about the org doing bad practice. He cried because an org got punished for it. This is when I realized cdl is a full fledged liar who will do anything to protect orgs and who is not interested in the truth.
Ain't no fun when rabbits got the gun huh?
So if you think buyers don't have rights, does this mean sellers also don't have any rights? Do tell. This means buyers can do whatever they want to sellers, right? Using your own logic. Or maybe both sides have rights, no?
You can criticize me all you want. I always have and will always defend customer rights. My first posts on this board I went on kgirl posters who advocated for not giving a bad review to a mediocre session. Negative reviews are already marginalized and scared off, we need more truthful and honest reviews that are negative because people are scared to post them.
I did not justify bad behavior by the way, I said openly and clear that I don't support rapists and said "fuck them"".
But you and others defend bad behavior by seller because the buyer is also bad. That is unacceptable and I've made sure to explain succinctly and openly why selective and preferential treatment is idiotic and dumb. Instead of trying to understand logical conclusions all yall doing is yelling that "rocket is rapist apologist" like a parrot.
I don't defend this person. I defend the right of everyone, including this person to write a negative review that is honest and truthful without the seller bothering them simply because review is negative. I replied specifically to that person and told him to report harassment to ter. And I will tell anyone that who claims to have been harassed via a negative review.
What I won't do is because this person is a piece of shit, I will not deprive him of his right to a negative review.
Then again, I have no idea why I wrote all this. You are the one who claims sellers in this industry are somehow special because they sell sex as opposed to anything else, your argument being that we can't do it ourselves - lol!
I can't make bread from scratch myself either,, I don't grow wheat, I don't mill it, I don't make dough, I don't bake the dough. And yet I don't tell a baker he is special for simply existing. If his bread is shit, I tell him his bread is shit. And he won't ever dare to harass me over bad reviews.
Fuck your double standards. I know neither you nor Robert would have the same energy if it was bearded grown ass men providing services in this biz and not women.
How about this - you keep on thinking sellers in this biz should be revered simply by existing, and I will keep on putting the heat on bad sellers who lie and harass customers over truthful public reviews.
If course, I fully expect you to ignore everything I say and just yelll "rocket supports rapist" when it is unequivocally false statement.
I don't support rapists. I support reviewers rights to not be harassed.
And this is why while yall still talking about this, I'm already investigating other potential people who got harassed by this booker.
For example, if you asked me where do I get the notion that I have freedom of speech rights, I would point you to the First Amendment of the US Constitution.
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So please point us very specifically where you, as a consumer in this lifestyle, have any rights at all? Where can I find them? Post that link when you can.
Sure thing. I'm not sure why u didn't Google it but here u go:
I very specifically said "as a consumer in this lifestyle." I am sure you just missed that part. Now, please show me where THOSE specific rights exist please.
sorry it sounds like you didn't read mine.
I checked and the link is working just fine.
I actually thought you were asking it for real. But you were just being facetious and just delivered another interpolation of the oH itT s iLleGal tHeREfoRe rUlEs dOnT aPplY bullcrap
How pathetic.
If you want to be a doormat, I don't think anyone minds.
But acting like all "consumers in this lifestyle" are doormats?
Stop it.
The "rights" you speak of only exist in your head. You made them up out of thin air. They obviously don't exist or you would have provided them by now. It was a simple question and yet, here we are, with you, completely unable to answer it.
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You pointing to the FTC was laughable, and destroyed your point, as they have zero jurisdiction in this realm. Everyone but you knows this. And then when asked again for an another source, a REAL source for those "rights" you are so certain that exist, you diverted, cried and then told me to "stop" being logical.
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If you ever do come up with that link I asked for, you will let us know I am sure. Good luck! lol.
These rights exist but you want to pretend because the hobby is illegal these rights don't exist and sellers can do whatever they please to customers and customers just bend over and take it.
Nope. Doesn't work this way bud.
Even if it were to work this way this would mean the customers could do whatever they want to sellers too.
But you double standaed wielders obviously don't agree with that
So no, both sellers and customers have rights. Whether these rights are protected well enough is another question.
I did not deflect. I provided rights you've asked for.
And I will defend them like my my life depends on it.
Scum sellers - in any industry - need a foot on their neck. And I'm dedicated to make sure they don't fucking touch what's not theirs - reviews.
Lying scumbags trying to lie and false advertise - make sure the whole world knows and air it out publicly
Harassing scumbags trying to shut down negative reviews - make sure the whole world knows and air it out publicly.
I will be here to make sure for every little penny they try to extract via violating customer rights, they lose thousands. That's what they deserve.
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You provided a link to an entity that doesn't have any oversight over p4p whatsoever. Just provide the link to the organization that adjudicates "consumer rights" in this lifestyle and we will be done. If "these rights exist" as you claim, this should be quite easy to do. The fact that you can't is quite telling.
"this lifestyle" is encompassed by the rights.
If you noticed when I was talking about review rights, I said every customer in the world is entitled to it - and yet ftc is us only.
Yes, keep on going how the rules don't apply
Keep worshipping sellers in this lifestyle because they sell pipi and think they can do no wrong because customers have no rights.
And Ill be telling each customer "in this lifestyle" to make sure they report each harassing piece of shit who tries to change, "negotiate" or suppress their voice. Mkah bud?
Where?????? I have asked 3 times and you have now officially struck out. Ok, I see you are flailing and desperate and you can never concede you are wrong. I have tortured you enough in this thread. It is obvious to all you have no answers and the rights are just a figment of your imagination.
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I know you well enough to know that you, just like CDL, needs the last word so please take it. And feel free if you find those "rights" governing p4p to post them. I think you will find them in the possession of Harvey the Rabbit. Lol.
You are playing dumb.
I already stated that rights existing doesn't mean thy are enforced.
Do you agree that there are universal basic human rights?
Do you agree that in some countries these rights are eradicated, like say in many Arabic counties and womens rights?
Do you agree that many try to change the situation to make sure women's rights in those countries are protected and enforced better?
Do you then think these rights are "in their head"?
You aren't torturing anyone. You are just playing the same ol "but it's illegal so you have no rights" card. Booooring, predictable and bad faith.
I've asked you and others, if you believe customers have no rights here this means that the sellers have no rights either, correct?
This means that if a seller wants to do whatever the buyer, then the buyer can do to the seller whatever he wants? Am I getting that right? You ever gonna answer that? Or are you just going to deliberately parade your double standards around?
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in saying someone else has to have the last word when you have 8 posts on this thread directed at rocket? You have done something similar on several occasions with me. You keep arguing and then say the other person has to have the last word when it's more a case of you just running out of cohesive and intelligent rebuttal. But I give you an "A" for effort and misdirection. Lol
The King of misdirection speaks! Talk about irony! ha
in saying someone else has to have the last word when you have 8 posts on this thread directed at rocket? You have done something similar on several occasions with me. You keep arguing and then say the other person has to have the last word when it's more a case of you just running out of cohesive and intelligent rebuttal. But I give you an "A" for effort and misdirection. Lol
But it's telling how all the proponents of "it's illegal and hence you have no rights" tuck their tail in when I ask
"If something being illegal means consumers have no rights and sellers can do whatever they want, does this also mean in your little theory that customers can do whatever they want to sellers?"
It does, right? Or are you just practicing double standards here yet again? Sellers can do whatever hey want but buyers can't do anything. Right, right. Lol. I will keep smearing double standard hypocrisy right in your face.
Thieves
Bullies
Liars
Double Standards
All get zero tolerance from me.
I made a factual statement about you. Just count your responses. You can't let it go, can you? In reality, it's you that needs the last word. How is that "misdirection" on my part?"
LOL. Does the FTC say they apply these rights to customers of illegal activities?
I would think a better source would be pointing to terms on TER or other sites where some level of sanction is listed for the claimed prohibited behavior. Or even customary/cultural norms among participnats of this activity -- but that then runs into the issue of weight of opinion rather than some absolute, invarient state.
Robert pointing the the US Constitution as the source of the right is also a statement about who is going to enforce the right. Your pointing to the FTC implies the same but I don't think holds. If rights lack any enforcement mechanism then claiming something is a right is rather problematic.
Yes, we have big issues with enforcing these rights.
If we didn't, I wouldn't need to be fucking watching sellers and making sure they feel the hammer when the rights are infringed upon. Making sure sellers have accountability.
If there was serious repercussion in manipulating reviews sellers wouldn't do it all the fucking time trying to earn a dirty buck or two.
How can we enforce this shit that even when ter banned an agency for manipulating/threatening bl if unfavorable reviews, you and others stood around and not a single one of you clowns even condemned the practice.Did you stand up for a single customer who was threatened that way? No you did not.
Do you remember who stood up for the regular customer? I have. You clowns stood around and attempted to justify it. And cdl engaged in one of the most vile lie I've yet seen on this board and I seen and read a lot of lies.
So please Jensen don't even act likw you're even remotely interested in enforcing there rights. You're just fine with agency or seller doing whatever the fuck with clients and their reviews. You also wanna be a doormat. Just don't pretend like you're interested in people not being harassed for negative reviews. You had a great opportunity seeing first hand how org exposed itself by posting that policy publicly.
You don't want any of these rights enforced. You want the provider to be omnipotent because they are selling pussy and customer only being able to say yes or no.
I will continue to stand up for customer rights and calling out and airing out sellers in this "lifestyle". They wanna fuck with other people's reviews? I will escalate it to a 100.
Don't
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Reviewss
If you're talking about the SD agency you had 4 posters from that market. Two said the policy and their experience was more about quality control and the agency lisened and took actions to fix things customers let them know, one said they didn't listen to his complains or do anything about it and one said he didn't reach out first but wrote a sub 8 review and they did "come find him". TER removeing the reviews does not actually prove anything about intent of that policy or how the agency used it. Given the available fact seems like your conclusion is more about your views than the actual facts. But if you want to take me to task for actually looking at the available information and saying it's not clear fine. I know you have to keep me pigonholed into what you believe and your confirmation bias will ensure all data your see support that view.
I don't call these rights but also don't see that what you're always escalating as not occurring already. It's just that everyone is goign to make their own choices -- that's on the provider side and the monger side. But we don't actually have policing powers here. We already have people reporting problems they have but I have no idea if that is most get reported or just a few. But your campaign doesn't seem to really be changing anything. We've seen several providers that ended up banned and reviews pulled based on simple reports and some followup reports of repeated behavior without all the fanfair and argument you bring to the boards. I think you have the one SD agency that got pulled and it's not at clear based on what the participants from SD had to say that was over all beneficial for mongers there.
But you seem to be happy because it's your little war.
My view remains that BA used to be a really good area for K-girl 8 -10 years back but seems to have gone down hill. As that was happending I heard the occational story from touring girls that clients there were overly demanding and hard to deal with so they were not going back or were reloacting to other areas. Is there a causal thing there? Not sure. But I have never heard of an industry that improved when S & D sides were in hightly adverstarial and antagonistic relationships. They seem to deteriorate. Where as industries that have good communications and see the situation as all being in the same boat, even if on different side of the coin in that boat do actually perform pretty well and quality doesn't suffer as occurs in the alternative case.
Tell me Jensen, who starts this adversial relationship?
A client who writes an honest truthful and accurate negative review of his experience, anonymously, and moves on?
Or seller who after such a review contacts the client and tells them to remove/reconsider such review?
If agency is truthful, doesn't engage in false advertising and is able to take a truthful negative review like they can a dick, there is no adversarial relationship. We are both happy.
Like you say, one bad session does make or break anything.
But if the seller is then pushy about you not reporting that session, then THEY are initiating adversarial relationship.
(There is no unwritten code that you shouldn't give products or services less than x. Only cdl seems to believe that)
All because of money. As I always remind, a seller is nothing without customers. Their biz doesn't exist without customers.
I want all other mongers to know when a negative review is posted. The negative review won't do much for whoever writes it, but it will be valuable for other mongers.
As far as your sd agency quip, two of those posters were biased (cdl helped the fucking owner move lol) and one was caught making copypasted reviews for different girls at sdag. Same exact text. But of course no one but me cared. Because you don't really care about honesty and integrity of reviews.
All you care is so that there is no conflict or adversarial relationship.
Whereas the agencies are the ones who start this adversarial relationships via lying, bumping off clients, harassment via texts.
They really act like they're giving you a favor when you're paying money. None of them are giving a favor or exclusivity. You're selling a service just like everyone else. Just like everyone else, some people are going to review your offerings negatively. Deal with it like a man
Yet you NEVER blame the agency for adversarial relationship. Its always rocket disturbing the peace. It's never the little fluffy white agency who never did anything wrong. Right.
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I'm pretty sure anyone here would agree that an agency, booker/assistant or indie harassing a client for a bad review is not acceptable. I was banned by an agency for writing in my review of one of their girls that during our time together she bled all over me (IUD issue). I wrote "she bled like a stuck pig". The woman who runs the agency accused me of calling the girl a pig. In my review I went out of my way to say she was beautiful and had a great body. The bed just looked like a murder scene afterwards. Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that, but at the time I thought it was somewhat amusing and it was certainly the truth. Was it the right thing to ban me? I don't think so. Form of harassment/retaliation? I saw it that way.
My issue is that while I've heard negative comments about other agencies, I have never heard a bad word about DS and my experience with them has always been outstanding. The OP, on the other hand, has only two reviews and the review in question has questionable details in it, such as the location of the appointment. The OP also has not returned to the thread to answer questions, clarify, and defend himself. As far as I'm concerned, the OP has zero credibility. Until I see or hear more information, I refuse to believe that Marie harassed anyone. Other DS girls have gotten an occasional so-so review and I would think that if they were harassed about their reviews the word would get out.
The bottom line is I don't believe that the OP was harassed. So you can go on and on about harassment and rights, but I don't think that any of that applies here.
Just a guess because I have no experience with the agency in question, but if the OP was harassed by the agency or booker I would tend to believe it was because of the aggressive, rapey kind of behavior he described, not for the numerical score.
common reason for a "talk" from the booker. Based on the review, I would agree with your assessment. The most common reason for a talk for the booker about a review is if the review seems retaliatory. They will often ask the girl why things went so horribly wrong as the reviewer describes, and the most common answer is that the monger was either pressing for off-menu services like BBFS or aggressive face-fucking, or she had to call him out for being too rough.
Rocket has admitted to liking girls who "can take a pounding" and/or that he can face-fuck, which accounts for his anti-agency bias. I never met a Kgirl that actually ENJOYED having a man grip their head and fuck her mouth where she had no control over the speed or depth. Kgirls will just tell the booker afterward to block the customer because they don't want to see him again. If more than one girl blocks a guy for being rough, then the booker will likely blacklist him from the entire agency. That's when you are likely to see retaliatory reviews by the blacklisted reviewer, which may require another "talk" from the booker.
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Agree with everything but one. Both Blossom and Phoebe in Vegas love getting facefucked. Hell, Phoebe even puts the back of her head against the wall and says let's go with her cute little bunny ears on. One time the first time I saw her I thought it might be too rough so I slowed down and pulled out a little and she slapped my thigh and said HARDER! That said, she one-of-a-kind in the KGirl world when it comes to really extreme stuff.
there are outliers for everything. I just haven't met one yet that WANTED me to do this. I always ask first. If it's the Phoebe I saw in OC many, many years ago, then she has certainly become more adventurous since then, but it sounds like a different Phoebe.
Will write how rough he gave it to her you won't consider it rapey right?
Yet someone else might.
Grow the fuck up. How can it be rapey when she invites/asks for it? You're off the deep end again.
I said, someone unfamiliar with Phoebe. And the review doesn't say she's asking for it. Do you think it's unreasonable to suspect rapey when in fact she's into it?
Damn you can run fast in reverse. There is no review, it’s a board post. And I expressly said she asked for it.
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C’mon man, you’ve gotten hammered by virtually everyone in this thread. Don’t try to change the subject to my comment about Phoebe’s preference.
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Go ahead, have the last word. I’m finished responding to your nonsense.
Lol, come on rh. Cdl spouted nonsense how he hasn't met a girl who was into pounding and ffd. And yet we both met them. I have reviews of Yuffie, Kira, Lovelyn (shit I thought I had a review of Yuna on ter guess not) and others who are very much into it.
You seen Phoebe and such. And if u remember I expressed many an interest in her.
And yet if someone unfamiliar reads the reviews without context they'd think they are rapey. All my point was.
Stupid on purpose, or are you not pretending. When you are in the middle of something with a Kgirl, and she says, "deeper", "faster", "harder", etc. She is inviting you for more intensity. This is a far cry from the OP's situation. RH also did not say he was talked to by the booker afterward. Can you guess why? It's because the girl INVITED him to do more. I would think a binary thinker like you would completely understand the distinction. Grasp at straws much? Lol
Holys, you're one of the few people to engage in meaningful discussion thay isn't condescending. Thanks.
Let me explain the situation as I see it right now after doing a bit of investigation and what I was able to gather.
DS and Marie in particular do contact people here about bad reviews.
However, from what I was told and shown as well as what I've found , she is very polite and not harassing - at least in the initial tone. This is big props to her. I still would prefer that no one would bother mongers specifically for negative reviews. But I don't have as many problems with how she is doing things.
However, as I was about to post that you claimed she said she didn't remember contacting the op. I have a few reasons to believe that she did in fact contact the op. I don't like liars so I was hoping that maybe she could refresh her memory.
I will send out a pm to her as well as you and maybe someone more neutral to the whole thing.
It's important to me that integrity and truth to always come out. I think if a company or agency or provider lies, it's not a good look.
Cheers
R
...has been pissed at me for NOT writing reviews, and for being so reluctant to even acknowledge the value of reviews in helping a alleged "inexperienced newbie" like me select providers...I simply refer you to this byzantine thread regarding the convoluted views and interpretations (to say nothing of the actual validity) of two reviews of two well known, well established women. I'll find my own way, thanks, and try to keep it to myself ...... meaning, I will never make the same mistake I made with the first provider I saw back in June, by posting about it in a misguided attempt to get some insight on how to avoid the same mistake again. Bottom line is, this whole business is highly subjective and geared toward individual taste and preference....on both sides of the equation (providers and clients)
I will agree though, the nature and wording of the actual reviews is really fucking twisted and disgusting....."Rapey" indeed and I really feel horrible for those women if that is in fact what happened.
"pissed" at you for not writing reviews, but with your admitted limited experience (which was corroborated by a provider who claims you saw her) it just makes you irrelevant, just like the aliases with no reviews. I'm always willing to give new aliases the benefit of the doubt, but when they start posting and it becomes apparent that I should take their alleged "experience" with a grain of salt, there is no reason to continue to engage with them. I'd be willing to bet that many other members will pass over reading your more verbose posts as well. It's bad form to try to claim victim status when the continuing diminution of your status here arises from something that you have complete control over.
Anywhere within 10 years is an accurate age. Twenty, if they're Asian, because who can really tell.
Never deviate more than 2 points from a provider's average. One if you gave any RL information or they know your review handle.
I didn't read your reviews but hear they are kinda rapey.
OTOG, your behavior or description of the session doesn't excuse the booker's harassment or prior monges' not calling out significant age and appearance discrepancies.
added 10 years and 10-15 pounds to whatever the ad says, and I rarely encounter a girl whose reality is off more than that, which means I'm rarely disappointed when arriving for a Kgirl session.
Thou shall not review KGirl with scores less then 7….oh well🤷🏻♂️😂