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Is it just I or does anyone else find TER a bit wonky this time of the AM?....
mrfisher 111 Reviews 488 reads
posted
1 / 22

Around 8 AM to 9 AM EDT, and it can take anywhere from 15 to 30 seconds for a page to load.   Been this way for about the last 4 days running.

 
The weird thing is that my iPhone has no such problem.   It happens both with my PC at work which is a Dell, and my laptop at home which is a Mac.

 
What's even stranger is that both my iPhone and the laptop get their internet from the same wireless signal, so that's no the issue.

 
Any idea what's the deal with this?

mrfisher 111 Reviews 3 reads
posted
3 / 22

and otherwise work well enough, though the updated Outlook on my PC is a POS, but that's another story.

 
In the meantime, the iPhone which is about 3 years old has none of the issues I am finding.

 
Does TER do some kind of technical upgrades everyday at that time, perhaps?

impposter 49 Reviews 24 reads
posted
4 / 22

IN GENERAL, websites (TER, walmart.com, etc.) often have code that "talks" to the requesting device (mrfisher's phone, mrfisher's PC) and sends it the appropriate or optimized version of the page info which can be VERY different. Some websites have a "regular" version www.website.com and a "mobile" version m.website.com and "website.com" knows which code to send to your device. Mobile versions are usually "smaller" and faster than the full webpage version.
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I.e., mrfisher's phone and PC are not necessarily receiving the same CODE to display the same PAGE. (Does that make sense?)  The phone code (commands) might be just fine but the PC code might be encountering (or sending) glitchy commands.  
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OR, maybe mrfisher has to adjust some settings on his PC browser? I.e., the website (TER) sends general commands to be interpreted by the receiving device. "Display 'Welcome to TER' in medium bold Arial font in a box at the top of the page." (all of that in HTML). The receiving computer and program has to INTERPRET that to display it.
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mrfisher's phone: "Welcome to TER." Ta-da!
mrfisher's PC: "Hmmm, this computer doesn't have Arial bold installed. I'll try to substitute Helvetica and hope that it's still readable." "Uh oh ... the HTML wants me to draw a box with a specific size but I can only do proportional sizes (0.5 of the frame width or 0.9 x frame width). Oh crap, mrfisher is going to be pissed."  Uh oh.
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I use an onion VPN which connects to the host (TER) through a series of random servers before I get anything displayed. If one of those servers is running slow for some reason (lots of signal passing through it), that can slow down the entire feed: the weakest (slowest) link in the chain. TER-fast-fast-fast-slow-fast-fast- is no faster than the slowest connecting server. If I am using different devices, they are using different paths to process the info.
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I'll skip the part about using various internet tools (ping, traceroute, etc.) to check on the TER server itself without actually trying to view any pages. Since there are few complaints, I'll guess that the TER servers are working OK with no slowdowns or lost packets.

Posted By: mrfisher
Re: Hell's bells, both my laptop and PC are only a few months old....
and otherwise work well enough, though the updated Outlook on my PC is a POS, but that's another story.  
   
   
 In the meantime, the iPhone which is about 3 years old has none of the issues I am finding.  
   
   
 Does TER do some kind of technical upgrades everyday at that time, perhaps?
http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/01/31/1246212/reviewthe-story-about-ping
"Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. Even more stunning is that they were clearly working with a very early beta of the program, as their book first appeared in 1933, years (decades!) before the operating system and network infrastructure were finalized.
The book describes networking in terms even a child could understand, choosing to anthropomorphize the underlying packet structure. The ping packet is described as a duck, who, with other packets (more ducks), spends a certain period of time on the host machine (the wise-eyed boat). At the same time each day (I suspect this is scheduled under cron), the little packets (ducks) exit the host (boat) by way of a bridge (a bridge). From the bridge, the packets travel onto the internet (here embodied by the Yangtze River).
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"The title character -- er, packet, is called Ping. Ping meanders around the river before being received by another host (another boat). He spends a brief time on the other boat, but eventually returns to his original host machine (the wise-eyed boat) somewhat the worse for wear.
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"The book avoids many of the cliches one might expect. For example, with a story set on a river, the authors might have sunk to using that tired old plot device: the flood ping. The authors deftly avoid this. ... ... "

durran421 3 reads
posted
5 / 22

The site is very slow from time to time including this morning. I expect nothing less though. This website is built on a completely outdated platform and honestly don't know if the ones who run it understand that or even care.

impposter 49 Reviews 28 reads
posted
6 / 22

For 10+ years, some of us have been advocating for TER to migrate to Open Source Forum Software, e.g.,  
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/suggestion-and-policy-4/more-advanced-forum-software-and-other-features-13829
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software
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There are numerous FREE open source forum software solutions. They are maintained, updated, and debugged by large consortia of dedicated programmers. They provide migration tools (to convert an old, outdated forum to the new software, IF POSSIBLE).
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These forum softwares usually include Post Preview, better search tools, better display tools and options, Private Messaging (mail) systems and better search tools that work with mail messages, and so on.  
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New forum software might help mrfisher and others having similar problems ... if TER ever DOES try to migrate.  
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(Hay! TER! You can ask "us" for feedback and suggestions! You can try a test run while keeping the current Forums up and running.)

Posted By: durran421
Re: It's not you...
The site is very slow from time to time including this morning. I expect nothing less though. This website is built on a completely outdated platform and honestly don't know if the ones who run it understand that or even care.
Just sayin' ...

mrfisher 111 Reviews 3 reads
posted
7 / 22

the fact remains that things work fine except for the 8 - 9 AM slot, so it must be something on TER's end that they do at that time every day.

 
Perhaps that's when they plug-in the coffee maker and that steals just enough juice to screw things up?

 
(Don't laugh, there are tech stories about how misc appliances like a coffee maker do cause havoc to IT systems.)

 
The explanation about how the iPhone is unaffected is interesting.

-- Modified on 4/19/2025 8:01:29 PM

36363jensen 4 Reviews 2 reads
posted
8 / 22

An odd experience. I cannot say I've experienced the same thing as I don't have a very regular schedule that would give a good setting to make the type of observation you're seeing. However, I have seen such delayed responses from time to time -- just not sure I can say that 8 - 9 window applies.

 
Interesting that the phone doesn't experience any latency while the two computers do. Curious, when you say the phone and laptop connection but perhaps the phone is switching between the WiFi signal and a cellular connect when the WiFi is slow. Just a thought.

 
Why the 8 - 9 but others don't seem to have the same issue, not sure. Have you ruled out something more local or do all the other internet connections seem normal speed during that time period? Even there perhaps some type of traffic prioritization and TER's server traffic keep getting bumped by higher priority traffic (maybe all the pre-market open activity and other businesses starting their day)?

Boobsman100 20 Reviews 3 reads
posted
10 / 22

Your service provider. Also be sure that you have done all the available latest  updates when prompted  or you can check for them.
Another issue  could be that you have too many things going on at the same time, or there are just too many people accessing the internet at those moments,

SinCitySinner 65 Reviews 4 reads
posted
12 / 22

OK.. Mr. Fish let me educate / enlighten  you a little bit..  

 
In the IT world, upgrades are not done everyday. Upgrades  that involve code releases are typically done on a periodic basis. Maybe Monthly, Quarterly, Semi Annually etc. Depending on the business size and customer base.  Emergency code fix can be done if something breaks, but that's not going to happen everyday. If it happens, time to fire your developer.  

 
What does happen on a daily basis are routine BAU (Business as Usual) type activities where data gets backed up, updated, replicated etc.  Maybe something going on in the morning on TER end is causing the system to be a bit unstable.  I also experienced the same thing this morning.  

 
Its also possible that traffic coming from your iPhone goes to a different server which might not have the process / back ups (whatever it is) running.

-- Modified on 4/20/2025 2:37:33 PM

36363jensen 4 Reviews 2 reads
posted
13 / 22

For what it's worth just logged in 8:15 and no latency. Maybe you own personal twilight zone? (Better or worse than a personal Jesus?)

holystonethedeck 91 Reviews 2 reads
posted
14 / 22

I've occasionally had morning issues as well. I assumed it was a DoS attack but nothing was ever announced about that.  

 
I come back a bit later (from the same platform) and it's fine.

exmikey 154 Reviews 3 reads
posted
15 / 22

It has definitely been happening to me for a few days.  This morning, it was working fine, went to the slow load, and then started working fine again.  For me, it's between 7-8 AM EST.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 4 reads
posted
16 / 22

with the autocorrect feature just like you did here.  You wrote, "Is it just me . . . " and as you can see that the faulty program changed it to, "Is it just I . . . "  It makes you want to pull your hair out.  

mrfisher 111 Reviews 2 reads
posted
17 / 22
inicky46 61 Reviews 3 reads
posted
18 / 22

He believes ignoramuses should be exposed for the dolts they are.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 2 reads
posted
19 / 22

Didn't check with Conan but with a new-fangled AI thingy that says I is used when the word is a subject and me is used when the word is an object in the sentence.  So it seems that auto correct here may well have come to the rescue for that confusion of using an object form of the self reference with that of the subject form.

mrfisher 111 Reviews 2 reads
posted
20 / 22

that the object of the verb to be should always be in the nominative case., thus I is correct, if a bit strange sounding.

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 2 reads
posted
21 / 22

Still one of the sweetest here thou!  ;-)

Steph XO

36363jensen 4 Reviews 2 reads
posted
22 / 22

While my grammar is often lacking I seldom doubt Mr. Fishers so had assume you were correct ;-)

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