TER General Board

Re: Boundaries, respect and FUN!
holeydiver 113 Reviews 922 reads
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I understand your good intentions, but NOT falling in love or remaining outta love, and all the rules and regulations to support that goal, makes this hobby seem more like prostitution, than the chariable good works and heart-felt interpersonal relationships thereof.  Instead of paving one's path with the official CC&Rs, drop bread crumbs along the way so you can find your way back home and/or others may follow, if they wish.  Remember:  This is volunteer fun for everyone involved.  No one is forced to make a donation and no one has to accept one.  We do so out of the kindness of our hearts.  So free that heart with love.

Thank you.

Please read this to this tune:

I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you?
I can't be too late, I know I was so wrong
I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you?
I can't be too late, I know I was so wrong
I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right, believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you
I can't be too late to say that I was so wrong

A provider on the ATL board suggested a frank discussion of boundaries may be helpful for inexperienced folks in the hobby. I think that's a good idea. Here are some of my thoughts.

....'s post started me thinking (which is dangerous) about how important boundaries are to maximizing our experiences int the hobby.

For the hobbyiest, it's important to understand and respect basic boundaries for several reasons. First, by understanding them we reduce our risk of becoming attached and doing something really stupid like falling in looooove with the first provider who is really skilled at creating the GFE experience. I won't call it an illusion because it's pretty damn real sometimes while it lasts! Second, it's important that providers feel as secure as possible in order for them to relax and entertain us in the manner to which many have become accustomed. Providers have enough to worry about without hobbyists adding to that by becoming attached.

Also, understanding and respecting these boundaries makes it less likely that a provider will intrude into the hobbyists private life, although I'm sure that happens much less frequently that the reverse. If it's clear from the beginning that each party moves back into the 'real' world after the session ends and that the transaction contracted for is finished, then both parties can feel much more comfortable and make maximum use of the time they have together.

This is not to say that hobbyists and providers can't bcome friends, or at least friendly. Certainly they can and do. However, it's extremely important that each party understand that the other will make this clear if they are indeed willing to have contact 'off the clock'. In the absence of any invitations to call, email, etc. it's better to refrain from doing so.

It might be helpful for those who are more inexperienced if the vets here would post some ideas about boundaries and how they may be violated unintentionally by otherwise nice folks.

I understand your good intentions, but NOT falling in love or remaining outta love, and all the rules and regulations to support that goal, makes this hobby seem more like prostitution, than the chariable good works and heart-felt interpersonal relationships thereof.  Instead of paving one's path with the official CC&Rs, drop bread crumbs along the way so you can find your way back home and/or others may follow, if they wish.  Remember:  This is volunteer fun for everyone involved.  No one is forced to make a donation and no one has to accept one.  We do so out of the kindness of our hearts.  So free that heart with love.

Thank you.

Please read this to this tune:

I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you?
I can't be too late, I know I was so wrong
I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you?
I can't be too late, I know I was so wrong
I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right, believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you
I can't be too late to say that I was so wrong

of ourselves.

It takes two to tango and if only it were sosimplistic.  But I do wish the ladies would respect the bounderies.

Anal Ender520 reads

intentions and expectations usually establishes the boundaries.

I am fairly open about my SO and that fact that I don't intend to romantically go in a different direction.

Right now I am in fairly frequent phone and e-mail contact with three of my ATFs; we exchange flirts, jokes, and catching up conversation.  They are also people that I would definitely see in a dating way if we had met differently. I passed through an infatuation stage with all three and am now in a familiar sensual relationship -  we know what turns each other on and can explore new 'secret spots'. We are lovers but not in love.  

However, I make it a rule never to call or email unless it is in response to one of theirs.  That way they can control the frequency and intensity of the communciation.

Actually, I've become friends with many of the providers I've seen. One in particular emails me for no specific reason other than to just say hi and catch up. Since she started this, I don't think it's bad to return the favor occasionally. We contact each other out of the blue, just friends, nothing more. In terms of boundaries, I'm sure some providers wouldn't want to be contacted if it wasn't business related. So I don't contact them unless it's business.

Boundaries are what we and those we relate to decide they are. It's different for every pair of people so writing a set of generic rules can be difficult. A few basic rules make sense, no stalking, no unwanted contact, don't fall in love with her and if you do, don't tell her and don't stalk her. OK, so maybe there's only the first two rules in all cases. But then, those rules apply in civvie life as well...

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