TER General Board

blacklist question
the rifleman 2942 reads
posted
1 / 59

Hi GD Board,
Recently I was turned down for an appt due to a 'bad listing' (she was ESL, and I assume she meant blacklist).  I have been hobbying for over 16 years, and have never had this happen.  I have asked for the name of the blacklister, but heard nothing back.  Can anyone steer me in the right direction to find out what provider did this? Are there blacklist boards that an accused guy can access?  

 I am baffled as to who might have done this. I have 100+ TER reviews as well as numerous Whitelists.

I am posting under an alias for obvious reasons.  Thanks very much in advance--RM

weipeikei See my TER Reviews 1835 reads
posted
2 / 59

If you genuinely think it was a mistake, inform your next date when you book that you're aware it may be out there but point to your recent reference and reviews as evidence of your good behavior.  

Posted By: the rifleman
Hi GD Board,  
 Recently I was turned down for an appt due to a 'bad listing' (she was ESL, and I assume she meant blacklist).  I have been hobbying for over 16 years, and have never had this happen.  I have asked for the name of the blacklister, but heard nothing back.  Can anyone steer me in the right direction to find out what provider did this? Are there blacklist boards that an accused guy can access?  
   
  I am baffled as to who might have done this. I have 100+ TER reviews as well as numerous Whitelists.  
   
 I am posting under an alias for obvious reasons.  Thanks very much in advance--RM

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 1928 reads
posted
4 / 59

We can't tell who blacklisted someone. Even if we could, most of us wouldn't divulge that information to you. That goes against the Ho Code.  

Posted By: the rifleman
Hi GD Board,  
 Recently I was turned down for an appt due to a 'bad listing' (she was ESL, and I assume she meant blacklist).  I have been hobbying for over 16 years, and have never had this happen.  I have asked for the name of the blacklister, but heard nothing back.  Can anyone steer me in the right direction to find out what provider did this? Are there blacklist boards that an accused guy can access?  
   
  I am baffled as to who might have done this. I have 100+ TER reviews as well as numerous Whitelists.  
   
 I am posting under an alias for obvious reasons.  Thanks very much in advance--RM

SinCitySinner 65 Reviews 1567 reads
posted
6 / 59

Actually Blacklist is a great concept. Its a place where the provider community can post info about those who want to cause them harm. But that shit gets abused left, right and center. I am sure some of the stuff there is true, but some completely blatantly false and untrue. Some stuff so lame that its downright laughable.  

Don't know what is posted about you, and if its 100% true or somewhat true or 100% false, but don't worry about it. Just move on to next gal. Use some of your good references to vouch for you. If you have been hobbying 16 yrs, and have 100s of reviews, I am sure there are providers who know you are a decent man (assuming you are).  I am really surprised that you made it this far w/o becoming member of that list.. LOL.  I was "luckier" I guess...LOL..  

Another thing about these sites is that on some of them, anyone can post shit. I can go post shit about some people, just like they can post shit about me. No verification whether person posting is a provider or not...

Good luck.

-- Modified on 5/9/2014 7:12:29 PM

inicky46 61 Reviews 1659 reads
posted
8 / 59

or for trivial reasons.  There also are BL sites that exist only to get guys to pay them a fee to get off the list.  I really don't know how many gals use such sites but I wouldn't worry about it.
I also strongly disagree with the advice that you should inform your next date of this.  She probably won't check the BL site you ended up on but could get spooked if you tell her.  Just give her the info she requests and let her do her own screening.  If the BL pops up just tell her you don't know why you're on it but point out with 100+ reviews you must be doing something right.
I think you're worrying too much.

pleasureglans 17 Reviews 1728 reads
posted
9 / 59

I'm happy to learn there is a "Ho Code." I would hate to learn I was associating with unethical people.

Posted By: Tobi Telford
We can't tell who blacklisted someone. Even if we could, most of us wouldn't divulge that information to you. That goes against the Ho Code.  
   
Posted By: the rifleman
Hi GD Board,  
  Recently I was turned down for an appt due to a 'bad listing' (she was ESL, and I assume she meant blacklist).  I have been hobbying for over 16 years, and have never had this happen.  I have asked for the name of the blacklister, but heard nothing back.  Can anyone steer me in the right direction to find out what provider did this? Are there blacklist boards that an accused guy can access?    
     
   I am baffled as to who might have done this. I have 100+ TER reviews as well as numerous Whitelists.  
     
  I am posting under an alias for obvious reasons.  Thanks very much in advance--RM

the rifleman 1382 reads
posted
10 / 59

I could have given 2 shits about the ho that turned me down, it was just new to me, so absolutely am moving on.  Go Nats!

YouDumbAss 1586 reads
posted
11 / 59

thinking you may want to know for motives you don't actually have.

GaGambler 1870 reads
posted
12 / 59

As for your question, you might be able to get to the bottom of it, IF you are on very friendly terms with another lady, but it's possible that you will never find out

The possibilities are endless, i am willing to bet that I am on at least a few black lists just for having such a big mouth right here, but I can't remember the last time I was turned down for a date.

the good news is that not every woman subscribes to the same BL sites, and this could possibly be a one time occurrence, lets hope so for your sake. Some BSC hookers have been known to throughly abuse the blacklist sites simply for spite. I suppose just like spiteful hobbyists use bad reviews in the same manner.

SinCitySinner 65 Reviews 1501 reads
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13 / 59

Just got up from a nice nap, so I can stay up for game against the A's.  Very excited to watch them play at the Coliseum..

And can't wait for Doug Fister to pitch as a Nat for the first time, tonight. I've never seen him pitch...

GaGambler 1380 reads
posted
14 / 59

but that was one of the most sensible posts you have made here in months

inicky46 61 Reviews 1918 reads
posted
15 / 59

Many times providers don't even understand what a blacklist really is (a site warning women of rogue mongers and outing their personal information).  They are intended to be used only to protect women from guys who will rob them, physically abuse them, stalk them or other dangerous behavior. They should never be used for NCNS-type infractions.  Those belong on a DNS (Do Not See) list, but some providers really mean a DNS list when they say blacklist.  The problem has existed for years.

SinCitySinner 65 Reviews 1509 reads
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16 / 59

But I guess it gives him one more chance to play the victim card telling us that he is just "bad" at grammar and punctuation.  LOL

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 1638 reads
posted
17 / 59

...is that you had some bad reviews in your 'list' of reviews.  There are providers who won't see you if you give bad reviews, even if you have many whitelists.

Dr Who revived 1212 reads
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18 / 59

Posted By: chuck connors is the rifleman

Listen up pardner....from what you wrote you're not on any blacklist.  You made some BSC hookers DNS list (that would be a do not see).  And even that is questionable since you claim that the hooker is ESL.

She may have had a date with Mark (that would be my TV son) to take his virginity.  I'm a good pops...and want Mark to learn that fucking hookers is a good thing.

Now just mosey on down to the next hooker....no need to comment on a blacklist..completely irrelevant.

Also if you really care just google your TER handle + blacklist.  I'll bet that nothing shows up.  That'll mean that maybe somewhere on some hookers computer they've listed therifleman as a bad ass dude.  Not on anything that is public.  Also check your phone number and email...don't forget to add that + blacklist pardner.

Nope...nothing is showing up.

You're good to see more hookers and fuck them to your hearts content.

Sincerely,

Chuck Connors  (the original rifleman)  :D

 

hbyist+truth=;( 1528 reads
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19 / 59
Florida_Evans 2211 reads
posted
20 / 59

If I decline someone based on their blacklist, I don't TELL him that's the reason why.  If he's genuinely dangerous, hopefully he remains unaware he's BL'd so other diligent ladies can find this out before it's too late.

AmberAffection See my TER Reviews 1345 reads
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21 / 59
AmberAffection See my TER Reviews 1186 reads
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22 / 59
Florida_Evans 1114 reads
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23 / 59

Most girls will not decline a date just because you have a BL NCNS.  Just like you wouldn't necessarily write off a provider because she had one negative review.  Girls understand that other girls are BL happy and/or crazy.  So as long as you don't rip off a girl or abuse her or something really bad, you will be fine even if someone listed you.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 1490 reads
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24 / 59
Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 1814 reads
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25 / 59

Y'all have to understand that we are well aware that some ladies get silly with the BL postings. Without going into too much detail, those entries are pretty easy to discern from the legit ones and we know which ones to take with a grain of salt. Also, most of us know the value of the private/heavily monitored sites and stay away from the stupid ones that anyone with a computer can post to.  

Here's the thing: some jagoffs post fake/spite reviews for a litany of stupid reasons just like some ladies post bullshit blacklist entries for similarly lame reasons. And in the same way that the guys can get valuable info from honest reviews, we can also get valuable info from BL sites. I'm sure some of you guys have avoided getting ripped off thanks to reviews, and I can think of one particular occasion when a BL entry saved me from a 6hr date with a dude who had drugged, raped and videotaped a girl. The reason I bring this up is because I don't want people thinking that such sites exist solely for the purpose of petty twattery. I have seen at least two guys because I chose to take specific BL entries with a grain of salt (and I was glad that I did), and I've also been able to avoid a few cockbags thanks to reports by other ladies.  

So yeah, they can be abused, but they're not useless.  

That ended up being like 2.5 points but you get the idea.

Florida_Evans 1458 reads
posted
26 / 59

He requested a travel overnight.  He even had overnight references from some very high end providers.  But despite him passing "screening", I decided to check his info.  He was BL'd for using drugs during a session, biting a girl, attempting BB, and trying to extort $3000 from her in exchange for not giving her a bad review.  Long story short, that appointment did not happen!

the rifleman 1859 reads
posted
27 / 59

Thanks pardner--plentymo ho's in this here town--best regards,  Lucas McCain aka the rifleman

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Posted By: chuck connors is the rifleman
 
   
 Listen up pardner....from what you wrote you're not on any blacklist.  You made some BSC hookers DNS list (that would be a do not see).  And even that is questionable since you claim that the hooker is ESL.  
   
 She may have had a date with Mark (that would be my TV son) to take his virginity.  I'm a good pops...and want Mark to learn that fucking hookers is a good thing.  
   
 Now just mosey on down to the next hooker....no need to comment on a blacklist..completely irrelevant.  
   
 Also if you really care just google your TER handle + blacklist.  I'll bet that nothing shows up.  That'll mean that maybe somewhere on some hookers computer they've listed therifleman as a bad ass dude.  Not on anything that is public.  Also check your phone number and email...don't forget to add that + blacklist pardner.  
   
 Nope...nothing is showing up.  
   
 You're good to see more hookers and fuck them to your hearts content.  
   
 Sincerely,  
   
 Chuck Connors  (the original rifleman)  :D  
   
   
 

TalkToTrees 1369 reads
posted
28 / 59

Do you really put a lot of your faith in blacklist websites for your screening process?
 
I posted this on another discussion board.  
   
Here's one example that I saw a while back...  
   
I've saw a posting that yelled RAPE, but give no other "identifying" information about the guy except for his first name. Do you realize how many Harrys there are in the world?    
     
In that same fake report, no phone number is given, but this one poster claims that this Harry raped her. Really, how did she know his name in the first place? Real rapists are secretive and don't advertise their name, especially to the lady they are raping. Duh...    
     
(Disclaimer, don't get me wrong, folks, rape is a major crime and when rapists are caught, they should be fed to felons in high risk maximum security prisons! skip the criminal trials!)  
     
I've seen enough crapola on those blacklist sites that it borders on comical.  
     
How can a well reviewed provider honestly use those blacklist sites as one of their tools of screening a hobbyist? Isn't their own screening process (without using blacklists) good enough?  

The last 4 providers that I have seen all said that blacklist websites are a waste of time and money. They saw no value in it. Those providers said that they get better feedback from calling the references than depending on unreliable sources. F.Y.I., those 4 providers have been in the business far longer than you have, Tobi.
     
Like I said... blacklists are stupid.  
     
The Forest Waits

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 1454 reads
posted
29 / 59

Dude, your logic is so unintelligible that I really have no interest in trying to explain this concept to you. It'd be like trying to explain quantum physics to a gerbil.  

The only people who think blacklists are "stupid" are people who are listed on them. Enough said.  
Posted By: TalkToTrees
Do you really put a lot of your faith in blacklist websites for your screening process?  
   
 I posted this on another discussion board.    
     
 Here's one example that I saw a while back...  
     
 I've saw a posting that yelled RAPE, but give no other "identifying" information about the guy except for his first name. Do you realize how many Harrys there are in the world?    
       
 In that same fake report, no phone number is given, but this one poster claims that this Harry raped her. Really, how did she know his name in the first place? Real rapists are secretive and don't advertise their name, especially to the lady they are raping. Duh...    
       
 (Disclaimer, don't get me wrong, folks, rape is a major crime and when rapists are caught, they should be fed to felons in high risk maximum security prisons! skip the criminal trials!)    
       
 I've seen enough crapola on those blacklist sites that it borders on comical.    
       
 How can a well reviewed provider honestly use those blacklist sites as one of their tools of screening a hobbyist? Isn't their own screening process (without using blacklists) good enough?  
   
 The last 4 providers that I have seen all said that blacklist websites are a waste of time and money. They saw no value in it. Those providers said that they get better feedback from calling the references than depending on unreliable sources. F.Y.I., those 4 providers have been in the business far longer than you have, Tobi.  
       
 Like I said... blacklists are stupid.    
       
 The Forest Waits  

Mr-Blonde 1524 reads
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30 / 59

One time I lost a client's phone number, so I typed his name into google, and he came up on all sorts of Ho blacklist sites, identifying him by first name and last name, physical description, and phone number.  (So I guess I found his phone number that way, which is what I was looking for anyway)

Either the guy gives his business card to every Ho he sees so that they know ALL his personal information, or someone got mad at him and put his name in all of these Ho blacklist sites all over the place.  

My bet is that it is the 2nd scenario.  I can't see how Ho blacklist sites are to be taken seriously.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 1364 reads
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31 / 59

You cannot please everyone, every time.

This is purely a transactional business and if keep it that way things will become clearer to you.

inicky46 61 Reviews 1417 reads
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32 / 59

Some are, some aren't.  They are not all the same.  As for the rape comment, I think the poster missed the point.  What probably happened was they had sex and he didn't pay (no $$$ in the envelope, for example).  Thus there was sex for no money = rape.  Consensual but under a deception.  We can argue whether that's real rape or not, but it's close enough for me.

Blowing Chunks 1685 reads
posted
33 / 59

Your tag line "Forrest waits".  
Why the need to write that dumbass line in every post?

inicky46 61 Reviews 1777 reads
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34 / 59

"Your thoughts if any?"

Forest Waits.


-- Modified on 5/10/2014 9:05:23 AM

86H13LTP 1568 reads
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35 / 59

That's what a top dog on this site told me when I got put on a list.  

He was right !

Blowing Chunks 1751 reads
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36 / 59

is he the one waiting?  or is it the forest that's waiting for him?  

- my beer waits -

skarphedin 1268 reads
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skarphedin 1601 reads
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Posted By: 86H13LTP
That's what a top dog on this site told me when I got put on a list.  
   
 He was right !

harborview 10 Reviews 1529 reads
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40 / 59

I recall clearly reading a gal's web site where she threatened to NBL late cancelations.  I thought it was extreme & unwarranted.  
As a gentleman, I respect the need to protect the safety of my gentle companions.  Unwarranted NLs damage the system.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 1930 reads
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41 / 59

If you got that much out of his comment, you're way better at deciphering his drivel than I am. Something about blacklists are stupid, guys named Harry and this trees dude knows 4 chicks who have been in the business longer than me. The rest I can only assume is the closest thing to what a dog hears when people talk.  

Posted By: inicky46
Some are, some aren't.  They are not all the same.  As for the rape comment, I think the poster missed the point.  What probably happened was they had sex and he didn't pay (no $$$ in the envelope, for example).  Thus there was sex for no money = rape.  Consensual but under a deception.  We can argue whether that's real rape or not, but it's close enough for me.

inicky46 61 Reviews 1254 reads
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42 / 59

Why do you think I actually understand Tardy's drivel?

Dr Who revived 1323 reads
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43 / 59

I donate often...I'm sure you appreciate that.

YourThoughtsIfAny 1350 reads
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44 / 59

You rang, sir?

Posted By: inicky46
"Your thoughts if any?"  
   
 Forest Waits.  
 

-- Modified on 5/10/2014 9:05:23 AM

TalkToTrees 1492 reads
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45 / 59

Really???

I see that you do use blacklists as a means to screen people. I do feel sorry for you since you lack a sufficient screening process that you can trust. Only gerbils use blacklists.

F.Y.I., I am not listed on any blacklists.  

The Forest Waits
 
Posted By: Tobi Telford
Dude, your logic is so unintelligible that I really have no interest in trying to explain this concept to you. It'd be like trying to explain quantum physics to a gerbil.  
   
 The only people who think blacklists are "stupid" are people who are listed on them. Enough said.  
   
Posted By: TalkToTrees
Do you really put a lot of your faith in blacklist websites for your screening process?  
     
  I posted this on another discussion board.    
       
  Here's one example that I saw a while back...    
       
  I've saw a posting that yelled RAPE, but give no other "identifying" information about the guy except for his first name. Do you realize how many Harrys there are in the world?      
         
  In that same fake report, no phone number is given, but this one poster claims that this Harry raped her. Really, how did she know his name in the first place? Real rapists are secretive and don't advertise their name, especially to the lady they are raping. Duh...      
         
  (Disclaimer, don't get me wrong, folks, rape is a major crime and when rapists are caught, they should be fed to felons in high risk maximum security prisons! skip the criminal trials!)    
         
  I've seen enough crapola on those blacklist sites that it borders on comical.    
         
  How can a well reviewed provider honestly use those blacklist sites as one of their tools of screening a hobbyist? Isn't their own screening process (without using blacklists) good enough?    
     
  The last 4 providers that I have seen all said that blacklist websites are a waste of time and money. They saw no value in it. Those providers said that they get better feedback from calling the references than depending on unreliable sources. F.Y.I., those 4 providers have been in the business far longer than you have, Tobi.  
         
  Like I said... blacklists are stupid.    
         
  The Forest Waits  

TalkToTrees 1787 reads
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46 / 59

It's OK Tobi...  

I really don't give a shit what you think. It's not worth it to me.

The Forest Waits
Posted By: Tobi Telford
If you got that much out of his comment, you're way better at deciphering his drivel than I am. Something about blacklists are stupid, guys named Harry and this trees dude knows 4 chicks who have been in the business longer than me. The rest I can only assume is the closest thing to what a dog hears when people talk.  
   
Posted By: inicky46
Some are, some aren't.  They are not all the same.  As for the rape comment, I think the poster missed the point.  What probably happened was they had sex and he didn't pay (no $$$ in the envelope, for example).  Thus there was sex for no money = rape.  Consensual but under a deception.  We can argue whether that's real rape or not, but it's close enough for me.

TalkToTrees 1560 reads
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47 / 59

I didn't know that you were Asian.

The Forest Waits

TalkToTrees 1772 reads
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48 / 59

Because I can... don't like it? Skip over it. Is that too hard for you to comprehend?

F.Y.I., there's only one 'R' in the word forest.

The Forest Waits
Posted By: Drunken Asian
Your tag line "Forrest waits".  
 Why the need to write that dumbass line in every post?  

Dr Who revived 1649 reads
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49 / 59

You are special...thanks  LOL

The Rainforest Waits
Posted By: TalkToTrees
I didn't know that you were Asian.  
   
 The Forest Waits

inicky46 61 Reviews 1244 reads
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50 / 59
TalkToTrees 1229 reads
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51 / 59

I'm not like you who sit in front of the monitor all day long staring at TER forums waiting to bash people.

The Forest Waits
 
Posted By: ChgoCPA
You are special...thanks  LOL  
   
 The Rainforest Waits  
   
Posted By: TalkToTrees
I didn't know that you were Asian.  
     
  The Forest Waits

AnotherDonJohn 1513 reads
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52 / 59

So I've always seen girls under my "nice" alias. I've never encountered the OP's problem under that alias.  

I'm sure this ADJ alias is blacklisted for my big mouth ( and currently bad mouthed on certain ladies' annoying blogs, which I then enjoy and ridicule elsewhere).

I think GaG's advice to ask a friendly provider you have a track record with is sound. And it's a good thing that providers can't completely trust the BL sites or each other because of BSCness and competitive behavior, despite the HO code, as Tobi (née Misbehaving CollegeGirl) put it. Lol.
Posted By: GaGambler
As for your question, you might be able to get to the bottom of it, IF you are on very friendly terms with another lady, but it's possible that you will never find out

The possibilities are endless, i am willing to bet that I am on at least a few black lists just for having such a big mouth right here, but I can't remember the last time I was turned down for a date.  

the good news is that not every woman subscribes to the same BL sites, and this could possibly be a one time occurrence, lets hope so for your sake. Some BSC hookers have been known to throughly abuse the blacklist sites simply for spite. I suppose just like spiteful hobbyists use bad reviews in the same manner.
-- Modified on 5/11/2014 8:11:40 AM

Dr Who revived 1301 reads
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53 / 59

Good God man...you posted at 4:29 AM....you do need to find a life.

There is more out in the world....step away from your computer and seek it.

Sorry that you have nothing else going on in your life.  

The Rainforest Waits...and hurry as it's disappearing quickly
Posted By: TalkToTrees
I'm not like you who sit in front of the monitor all day long staring at TER forums waiting to bash people.  
   
 The Forest Waits  
   
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
You are special...thanks  LOL  
     
  The Rainforest Waits  
     
Posted By: TalkToTrees
I didn't know that you were Asian.    
       
   The Forest Waits

inicky46 61 Reviews 1191 reads
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54 / 59

Looks like he did stay up too late.

GaGambler 1307 reads
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55 / 59

Like the obviously fake reviews about a good provider that is simply trying to hurt her business. I am sure most of the ladies will take things they read on a BL site with a grain of salt when warranted, or at least the smart ones will.

AnotherDonJohn 1197 reads
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56 / 59

There are no pacts between lions and men.  

Guess which one you are...
Posted By: RodTidweLL
If you ever took the time to understand where I was coming from we would probably get along better. I honestly don't want to argue with you and nick all the time.

Blowing Chunks 1126 reads
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57 / 59
MSON123 44 Reviews 1066 reads
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58 / 59

Yep been there! It is really a sneaky way to screw with someone. There are some disturbing problems in the hobby.
First not all sessions go well or you may not click with a provider. So either you do not give a review or give a marginally good review. But never give a bad review because you are screwing with her business and she will retaliate

Second Ladies do not see it this way. They go for the jugular by being friendly, offering whitelists, and references then stab you in the back by badmouthing you when asked for a ref.  

Having caught the bitch red handed and confronting her she feels she did nothing wrong

MSON123 44 Reviews 1409 reads
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59 / 59
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