Are you suggesting this is right outside the OP's house?

I am a BBFS guy and want to speak out against disrespect towards BBFS hobbyists and providers.  BBFS is a personal choice and NOT for everyone in the hobby or provider.  If a hobbyists or escorts do not want to do BBFS, it is their personal choice and you have to learn to respect it. By pushing them or pressuring them to do BBFS is not respecting the escort’s wishes.
           I going to teach you a technique I develop to screen out non-BBFS provider.  By doing the screening, you are respecting the escorts right to choose what they provide and you are not wasting your resources by seeing providers who do not want to offer BBFS if you want BBFS.
I am angry about the fact that guys who want BBFS are demonized as being dirty, nasty, sick, etc. We are not wackos or crazies. It is personal choices just like someone have a preference of being gay.  People who want to engage in BBFS should be respected and not demonized and put down.
I am a guy who always request BBFS (no blow jobs, and cum in pussy without condom with spermicide from drug store) from escorts.  My deal is that no condoms or no sex. I do not bend. If the escort does not want to do BBFS then I will terminate the service.
Here is my philosophical rational. If you think about it, we are linked sexually to 90% or more of the adults in the world sexually.  Think about your exes, extra martial affairs, ex-boyfriends, ex-girlfriends, escorts, prostitutes, gay relationship (if you had one) and your partner’s relationship.  If you think philosophically, you can conclude that 90% or more adults are link sexually without condom usage. Why don’t  90% or more of the world get STDs?
Most adults have healthy immune system to fight of STDs that why you do not find 90% or more adults in the world got STDs and HIV infection. Some adults have compromised immune system due to drug usage, overworking, insomnia, poor diet, etc. that why they get STD explosion.  This is not a medical fact but a philosophical justification for engaging in BBFS. Yes, condoms will protect against STDs but it decreases sensation for me.  I have mental problems with condoms because I feel I am being teased and not getting the real thing.  I may be wrong about my rational and willing to take the responsibility for being wrong.
I am a healthy guy who is on good diet, good hydration, and exercise regularly, sleep enough, and do not overwork to the point of poor health. I choose to engage in BBFS(CIP only).  I use spermicide that I purchased from the drug store before BBFS-CIP.  Escorts that engage in BBFS(CIP only) with me love it much.
At first I did not know how to ask for BBFS so I saw escorts that do not offer BB services or only BBBJ some of the times. It was hit and misses for me. Some escorts I was able to convince into BBFS but others I was not able to convince to do BBFS. I wasted allot of money on escorts that do not offer BBFS.
Now I learn how to screen escorts who do not want to offer BBFS. I will call the escort up and ask if she is a PSE escort. If she is not one, then I will not book an appointment. This save me allot of money, time, and heartache with escorts who do not provide BBFS.  From experience I learn not to use the term BBFS, no condom, or raw  over the phone because many escorts are scare when you use these terms. The best term is PSE when screening escorts that provide BBFS.
Don’t try to convince escorts to give you BBFS when they are not willing.  It does not work most of the time. They will tell you about the dangers of STDs and they are right.
I am warning you about the reaction you will get from some escorts over the phone. I been called bitch, got the phone hang up on, yell at from escorts, etc. when I ask if they are PSE escorts.  This comes with the territory when trying to find BBFS escorts. I had offers from other escorts to engage in PSE and willing to book an appointment with me.  Some escorts told me over the phone that they specialize in PSE.
*Don’t argue with me that PSE does not include BBFS. I check on the Urban dictionary and it says that PSE include BBFS.

PSE & GFE both mean BBFS in some circles, but not here.   Do a search for both terms - discussed ad nauseam.    Also I respect choice in this hobby, BUT BBFS will always have a stigma here due to AIDS in the 80s/90s and other STDs .  Most providers & hobbyists shun those that do it, and some end up on DNS or blacklists.

Just sayin' and being honest  -- not being judgmental.

It's just incorrect that being in good health and well-hydrated will protect you from STDs.  Any medical professional will confirm this.  So you are deluding yourself about the risks you run.  And since you only CIP, you are adding dramatically to the risk for the provider.  I'm not being judgemental, but I would not see any provider who'd see you.
As for your definition of PSE, you are wrong again.  There's no doubt both GFE and PSE have very fuzzy definitions, but most people don't think PSE automatically means BBFS.  In fact, there are some people who mistakenly think GFE includes BBFS because your girl friend wouldn't make you use a condom.  They are just as wrong as you are.
As far as educating yourself better, one thing to do is look up posts by a handle called TheMoose.  He openly sees only Porn Stars who permit BBFS.  He has a regular testing regimen and presents the evidence to the PS.  It seems to work for him.  I'm not advocating what he does, but at least he's got an approach that has some logic and medical sense to it.  Yours does not.

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"It is personal choices just like someone have a preference of being gay"

I didn't know that.

For a moment I thought this troll was being serious!

Here's the deal babe...you have the right to do whatever you want, and others have the same right to call you a fkin dumb ass for doing it. Same with any other service any of us provides. BBFS includes unwanted trick babies, which is NOT possible with ANY OTHER SERVICE! Please get your facts straight, and do wtf you want. No one gives a rat's ass where you choose to put your own weenie, but we can still call you STUPID, a bigger risk, and refuse to see you. NO, PSE does NOT mean bbfs unless it is with an actual porn star who agrees to it. You need some education.

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I have it on good authority that he was used in commercials years ago that showed what happens to "your brain on drugs".

Not to mention the benefits of getting past 6th grade for an education.

You won't see any reviews from this troll.  What a shocker

He can't count to 21...he runs out of fingers and toes!

Um wtf...why start a damn thread about what you do then idiot? No one gives a flip! Go get someone pregnant already!

90% of the world does not get STD's because we use... CONDOMS.

And way too much faux advertising here by some gals.

At least this OP wrote what he thinks...too bad it's with an abnormal brain mind you!

I also doubt that he would give two shits about getting anyone pregnant.  When you live in Mom's basement and have no income...why would he?

to ask a lady to do that witout knowing the man is just downright rude and disrespecful, regardless of if you get good sensation or not, im sorry but you are wrong, bbfs is reserved for 2 people that know each other, EVEN IF IT IS IN THIS HOBBY, JUST MY OPINION ,BUT I RESPECT A LADY THAT SAYS HELL NO, IN FACT THATS PROBABLY THE LADY I WOULD PICK

YES SHE IS QUITE RIGHT

providers' keyboards putting you on their DNS lists.  Not that you care, you claim you won't see them anyway because they won't BBFS.

Must be Prince spaghetti night.

He'll be back later after Mom gives him his bath!

This post is SO telling of the intelligence level of some of these morons. When I was new, I met some girls who did it - among the best lines were, "If he looks clean he probably is clean," "Spermicide kills all germs" and the best one ever: "He promised me he was clean and I believe him." Can't argue with that logic! LOL.  

If only there really was some litmus test that would help us weed the BBFS crowd OUT.

You said that humans have a healthy immune system that prevents STD's, you lost me right there. Edumacation dude. If humans have healthy immune systems that prevent STD's, then we there wouldn't be any STD infections. Man, you really need to check the statistics of STD infections. I've provided you with a website that shows the statistics of STD infection. It's estimated that 15 million people are infected with STD's annually, and that is just in the United States alone bro.

http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm
(take a look at this graph bro, it shows you that HIV/AIDS are increasing)

http://www.avert.org/std-pictures.htm
(here dude, click on some of the images of STD infection, that should be enough to make anyone stay away from BBFS)

You like cumming in a girl's pussy? You serious dude. Dude, I'm not even gonna waste my time dissecting your thread, its just way too funny that I even take this serious. BTW, you really need to know your facts before you make these statements.

This is fact. The percentages of STD, HIV, and AIDS infection is much higher if you have vaginal or anal sex without the condom. That is a fact. The percentages of STD, HIV, and AIDS infection is much lower for BBBJ, DATY, and DFK if compared to unprotected vaginal and anal sex. If you need proof, then let me know. Take care bro, your a funny dude.

That said, I do ask you for a favor thought.

1) Please write reviews for all your encounters and specify that the ladies you see engaged in BBFS.

2)Prior to contacting anyone for appointment, please provide your handle and link to your reviews.

3) Set up college fund for your inevitable numerous offspring. I pay taxes and would hate to support your PSE kiddies.

Lina

FucktardRepellent.  I posted it under a tribute alias I created called RepellentFucktard.
You're welcome!

In my decades of doing this and over hundreds of girls I've seen in that time frame, I can say honestly that I have done BBFS with an escort before.  It has happened.  It is not the norm, and it isn't something I seek, but in the heat of the moment it has happened.

And you're right that it's a choice between two people, but to think that the consequences aren't there with others is ludicrous.

Even worse, the rationale of 90% of people not using condoms and being sexually active (while it may be true) is hardly good rationale for doing it.  It reminds me of the housing crisis and everyone saying that risk was diversified away because not everything could come crashing down at the same time.

Think of having multiple partners who themselves have multiple partners who have multiple partners as being akin to leverage in the market.  The more leverage you use, the more the outcome is likely to become binary--either you have a homerun and make a billion dollars or you crash and burn and create a huge catastrophe.

All it takes is just one person who is infected to screw up everything.  It doesn't matter if you take care of yourself.  The very fact that there is an incubation period of months to detect anything alone should shoot bullets into your argument.

Do what you want, but please don't try to rationalize it as being contained to your own world.  It isn't.

Being gay is NOT a choice or a preference.

Dear hobbyist,

          I do not give any reviews on any escorts that allow me to do BBFS. The escorts I saw do not have ER reviews. They are found on backpage.com. I do not dare to go to high class escorts because I am afraid that I loose the money  and not getting my BBFS. I go to cheep escorts who do not have reviews.

then boast about how "safe" you and your carrier monkey family is.  PSSST, when is the last time you heard of a dude aka hobbyist being named "London?" That "See my TER Reviews" didn't make your bulb light up eh?  Your entire OP is complete bs dude...I doubt you have ever been laid even with a condom. No one is THIS stupid.





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HERPES TO HERPES! CHLAMYDIA TO CHLAMYDIA! HIV TO HIV! You dumb nuts that say all this stuff of loving BBFS -  is completely BS. You do this to stir the pot and thank GOD we do it take it seriously (as I'm sure you are snickering thinking that we will lose our sleep tonight b/c of your ridiculous ALIAS crap sewage.) I actually think it's funny that you think we really CARE about your medical history and your soon to be STD's you may get from (supposedly) only BBFS people. Good luck with that and take care of your itch'ings and your warts. How sweet it can be! LOL

Whereas many of the previous posts state how funny the OP is, I don't believe that he intended to convey anything humorous.   Which is actually scary.   I think he is serious, deadly serious.   And his claims are so outrageous that they become funny in of themselves.

As the rest of us are too well aware, this guy proposes playing Russian Roulette.  It's not a game known for promoting longevity. Others have given stats for risk, but one day let's take a roll for HIV, syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, herpes.....  And spermicides are not fool-proof; so as others have alluded, he should plan for his "unplanned" children.  Of course, unless he is already sterile.

But the only silver lining for me in this whole mess is this:  The providers he is already fucking BB are low-end BP hookers.  No one I would ever consider meeting up with.   Selfishly, he had me concerned there for a moment.   So I thank you, PSEguy147, for your second post.

... Doc Wikipedia. He could tell us all about his vast doctor experience with 2 BP ripoff artists. Everyone knows that a doctor can only afford those 100 dollar weekend specials. Then he could cut and paste some FDA stats regarding arrests for herion users who bought test kits online. Finally, he could show us his BBFS 93% proof surgery that will allow him his "window" to do anything.

Are the ones who are also more likely to be giving it up because they need the money for drugs?

I realize I am using a very wide brush to paint this, but when I look at the low-end escorts on BP, the first thing I wonder is how many guys she has seen.  A girl charging $200 to $250 for FS is doing it to see a lot of volume, or is just plain unattractive.

I'm gonna paint with a wide brush here, but after having been in this hobby for decades, I can tell you that the higher-end girls are usually educated and do it on the side because they have an expensive lifestyle to keep up, or because they are really hot and know that they can charge a certain amount.  They aren't usually girls who have major drug problems (and I'm not talking about doing the occasional line of coke).

The low-end girls, if they are attractive enough for most of us, tend more to be in desperate situations, so they will do lots of things for little money.  There is a bodyrub provider in Manhattan who advertises on BP that has been known to give FS for next to nothing above the bodyrub rates because she has a drug problem that she needs to feed.  I'm guessing that when she offers it, she's not prepared with condoms, and it just happens.  For her to give it up for an extra $50 to just about any horny guy on her table is just scary.

And yet with your rationale, this is just fine.  Because YOU lead a healthy lifestyle.

Crazy.

On the one hand the gay comment and the backpage comments could easily have been satire and initially made me think he was a genius; however, after re-reading the post and observing his less than stellar grammar and compositions skills, I'm inclined to believe the latter. Unless the grammar is all part of the satire...

There is really no middle ground.  Either he is a misunderstood and underappreciated comic or the asshole of the century.  

The grammar kinda reminded me of this quote I just read..."Good grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit"

I wish it was not true but sadly some people are born without functional brains, the OP may be one of them.

i m CERTAIN its the latter. no way is this fool a genius, even compared to frozen yogurt.

but your comment about grammar reminds me of another one i have heard. this one about punctuation.

Good punctuation is the difference between helping you Uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse."

I couldn't said it better myself. Thats like sentencing yourself to death!!! To each its own,

It's not so shocking anymore really. Another dumb ass willing to stick his weenie in anything with a pulse is not exactly news breaking...more like common.

I'm a BBFS guy and i have plenty of reviews, and i'm fixed so no unwanted trick babies for me!!!

MMMMMM ,,,, yummy troll food!

I do not see a woman that have any reviews. I make sure she does not have any reviews. To get my BBFS, I see low class escorts. They usually give it to me.

Well, yes, this is pretty well-known.  It's been going around for a while that some of the girls who have 10/10s in their reviews are doing BBFS.

I don't think it's across the board, but it wouldn't surprise me.

And you don't worry that some of the girls giving it up for that cheap might be doing this with a lot of other guys who might have something?

This isn't everyone, but some girls who do BBFS for cheap are doing it because they have a drug habit to support.  And if you're constantly drugged out, you will do things with guys that you wouldn't otherwise do, in order to feed that habit.

Not that I would go for it mind you, but devil's advocate...

Death Wish?  Being a little extreme aren't you?  Nobody in the first world dies from AIDS anymore.  For the most part it never even progresses to AIDS anymore- HIV cant be cured, but it can be controlled indefinitely with medication, and the current health care climate makes this accessible to pretty much everyone.  An HIV positive NONSMOKER is still more likely to die from lung cancer than they are from AIDS- and they're more likely still to die in a car accident.  That's NOT exaggeration, pull the numbers yourself.

And at least for the guys, the rate of contraction for MOST STDs is fairly low, and condoms are not foolproof.  We're talking about a 1% risk vs.  5% risk here when engaging in protected vs. unprotected with an HIV positive partner.  Women of course stand a much higher risk of contracting most STDs than men do.

The more virulent STDs, for the most part, are little more than an inconvenience even if untreated.  Herpes comes to mind- its easy to contract even with a condom, but its more demoralizing than threatening, and again the symptoms can be controlled indefinitely with medication.

The sole exception, and the real one people should be concerned about in terms of BBFS, is hepatitis- this can still be very dangerous, is quite virulent to both sexes when unprotected, and condoms actually offer an appreciable level of protection from it (significant reduction in rate of contraction AND a very low rate of contraction when condoms are used- compared to HIV which has a low contraction rate even without condoms, and herpes which has a high contraction rate even with condoms).  Seriously, why is it HIV HIV HIV when HIV is small potatoes now?  Did people stop following the medical industry after the words 'AIDS Epidemic' got tossed around?


No serious intelligent hobbyist goes into it thinking hes safe just because he uses a condom.  Even the lowest volume escort is exposed enough that even if you take her word that she always uses protection, you cant count her as clean.  Its always a calculated risk.  Some people legitimately get off on the danger of it, as well as the risk of pregnancy.  Pregnancy risk is a very real fetish.

I'll leave with this note: People who climb Mt. Everest have a significantly higher chance of dying in the process than anyone engaging in unprotected sex, and those people don't catch nearly as much flak as those who openly admit to being into BBFS.  You may argue that they are putting others at risk, but it takes two individuals to perform BBFS, a client and a provider.

News flash: At least those openly admitting it are putting themselves out there so you can cross the off your to-do list.

I don't believe for a second that ANY of you have never had unprotected sex with anyone, though I'm sure some will claim it.  We all do things we've previously promised ourselves we'd never do, most of us daily.  Given incubation periods and all.... don't pee on my leg and tell me its raining.



Flame on- I know nobody wants to hear this.  Sometimes the truth hurts.

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