You make a couple of excellent points. Maybe sometimes it is YMMV but you can't get that info out of the review itself. However, if the numbers and wording grossly differ from earlier reviews, then it makes me wonder what was in his head.
I also agree with your second point. Really, if the provider has been around a while, who cares. She probably has a client base who knows, and the one or two clients she might miss because of the writeup might not be missed anyway.
BTW, you're in engineering. "Outlier" gives you away! LOL
When I initially joined TER, I was diligent to write about each of my experiences with providers. I wanted the guys to know what I had enjoyed or disliked. As you know, it takes a lot of effort to prepare a review and I was careful to be as accurate as I could in my retelling of the events. I was very careful not to dis a provider when I thought it was more likely a YMMV issue than bad service on her part.
However, my thoughts on writing reviews has been somewhat altered by a recent event. A hobbyist on another board wrote a railing review on a lady I had seen several times. When I read the review, based on my experiences with her, I knew it just simply could not be true.
To my complete surprise, the lady called me crying and said the guy in question was destroying her business. I asked her what happened and she said he wanted services she did not perform and as a result of her refusal he wrote the harsh review.
I read her website and it is clear as to the services she offered and her pics are reasonably accurate.
However, his review said nothing about her refusal of service it simply spoke negatively about her, her appearance and how bad his experience had been. He then proceeded to rebuff anyone who questioned what he had written and continued to write even more derogatorily about the provider.
Spurned lover or what?
Anyway, without being asked by her, I wrote a review of my experiences with her and posted it on that Board to help offset this gentleman's damage. For me this was not a "white knight" issue this was just combatting an idiot.
Having seen the effects of his review on this lady and her business, it has shown me how careful we as hobbyists should be to tell a true story of what happened.
If we don't enjoy the visit we should say so appropriately. Why, because going beyond that might inappropriately spell financial hardship for a provider. Many other hobbyist may decide not to see her simply based on our own poorly chosen words.
Just a thought! Have a great Labor Day!
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wherein the info is questionable at the very least. I research a lot prior to an appointment. Recently I saw someone who had 8s or higher for appearance and whose photos looked great. I was afraid, very afraid. The girl looked sick and I don't mean with the flu. I wrote a less than stellar review and the agency changed her photos shortly afterwards. But I was nice in the review because of the potential backlash. I looked after reading your post and she is still getting 8 + for appearance. I don't get it, unless everyone is afraid what the ladies will say after they put up a bad review. In the case you site - I fully understand. I almost posted a reply a couple of days ago when someone said something about a lady I really like. But some other jumped in before I said anything. Bottom line - it can go both ways and unfortunately we can't rely on everyone here to be honest.
I too take issue with inaccurate or false reviews and I also believe that critical opinion can be written without being unjustifiably vitriolic. However with that being said as I read your post, I can't help but wonder if in fact the other guy posted an inaccurate or false review. Is it possible that he just had a different opinion then you (or her)? Is it possible that everything he wrote is true relative to his experience and feelings despite them being contrary to yours? Is it possible that his latter defenses against those who were openly critical of his review were in fact justifiable replies because with the absence of evidence that he was flat-out lying, who has the right to dispute his subjective opinion of his encounter?
My other thought surrounds the provider herself. Unless she was new, I don't think a single poor review will have a long term negative impact to her business. Most hobbyists (and I realize not all) examine the total history of a lady's reviews when they research. Well informed hobbyists seek consistent feedback in the reviews they read. A lady with several positive reviews and a singular outlier poor review is not immediately cast aside for consideration. In fact the reviewer who posts the review that is most unlike the others (be it good or bad) is usually the one who is suspect. While I understand that any slow down in business is cause for concern and I can also understand how this situation may upset the lady, I firmly believe that if she is as you and other supporters feel she is then she will have no problem putting this behind her.
I recently wrote a review of a local gal that was several points below her average performance average. I felt, and still feel that I was completely objective and honest. In fact, I feel as if I held back a bit, since I'm recognized in my local market and didn't want to unduly harm her financially. IMHO, it wasn't a situation that would be fixed by trying again, so I documented my experiences as I saw them. I don't believe that I was unkind.
I noticed today that my review of her fell off of the first page, and that most of her subsequent scores looked similar to the ones before mine. It would seem that either the past month has been just fine for her, or she's been successful in recruiting guys to write more to push mine down the list.
In any event, several hobbyist pals sent me PMs, thanking me for saying things that they didn't have the guts to write, so I know it wasn't just me. I re-read several of the reviews, and saw things written that I could relate to, so once again I feel justified.
I wasn't trying to harm her business, and it appears that I didn't. Most guys give her good scores, so I guess most everyone was happy.
You make a couple of excellent points. Maybe sometimes it is YMMV but you can't get that info out of the review itself. However, if the numbers and wording grossly differ from earlier reviews, then it makes me wonder what was in his head.
I also agree with your second point. Really, if the provider has been around a while, who cares. She probably has a client base who knows, and the one or two clients she might miss because of the writeup might not be missed anyway.
BTW, you're in engineering. "Outlier" gives you away! LOL
Agree 100%. However, there are situations where the provider probably ws having a bad day (for whatever reason). If this is the case one would think it is a prudent business practice to cancel appointments for the day..Just my .02 worth..
No offense but I don't think you will find anyone here that thinks we SHOULDN'T write accurate reviews. The guys that slam a lady intentionally have an agenda, whatever it is, and nothing we say will change that. Was she wronged? Maybe. The truth is only two people know what happened during the appointment. The guy may very well be full of crap. I know some grade A ladies that are still always concerned about getting a bad review because they refused BBFS or some other foolishness. It happens, there are some real a-holes out there. Bottom line is if she is a good provider with a history of good reviews she will not be hurt by one bad one.
I recently read a review that scored a provider several points lower than what I and 12 other had scored her. She was part of a well known agency in our area. I checked the other reviews he had writen and this was his first critical review. He always scored his providers in the 7 to nine range. So this was a first for both of them.
He specificly commented that she did not have a nice face. She was beautiful. I thought so and so did the last twelve reviewers. I can see us having differing opinions about her attitude, personality, or if she was into the session or not. I can even see that she may be on the thicker/heavier side of what he would like his providers to be. But she was a real looker and her face was clearly one of her best features.
So I can only guess that she was not in her best mood and she must have rubbed him the wrong way.
He might have been offended by the way she acted, then reacting by showing a little more hostility, further escalating the situation. She then reacts to his offensive behavior by being sarcastic. she then looks to end the session quickly and further pisses him off.
They both had a bad day. It happens. It is only one bad review out of a dozen or more good ones and it sticks out like an erect nipple. She will continue to do well unless this becomes a new trend for her.
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I know of an agency who has deliberately send out the wrong girl when a client asked for a specific provider. Maybe the guy doesn't catch on but, instead, notices differences between pics he saw and the girl he actually is seeing. Or, he totally doesn't get services that the original lady normally provides
I agree, that has happened to me on a few occassions. When it does and the provider introduces herself as the requested provider (i.e. "I dyed my hair/pictures are dated)but looks/performs different from reviews, I post the review under the name of the person I requested, and am honest as to the performance I received, but also make a comment that there may have been a switch so that others may be alerted. That way if its the agency that made the switch without consulting the provider, she knows who to blame.
I pride myself on writing a detailed (almost)
'blow by blow' account.
I also like to sprinkle in some humour.
Now, doing pretty extensive research helps - I know ahead 90% of what i'm getting - (never yet had a bad date) and feel that whoever reads my review should know what (and what not) to expect.
Perhaps some are too long and detailed; however IMO that is better than - 'All Letters Apply, YMMV', anyday. LOL
[Pic of last weekends date. The Lady is a Personal Trainer. 'Rebecca'. Buns of steel. Wow!]
Kind of like gymnastic judgeng. Throw out the high score and the low score and avg. the rest.
BTW, keep your pics coming.
One of the things that ladies could do to prevent some of the fallout from inaccurate or misleading reviews is to be absolutely sure that they are accurate with respect to their weight and age.
Recently someone called one of my ATFs fat! lol! the lady is not fat (not even baby fat) - but she is proportioned! that is nice Boobs! with a Great waist and then real hips. The lady is also very attractive... and is somewhat mature... but NOT old !!! in fact she is young, but not 18 - NOR does she claim to be. Her pictures are more than accurate, they are a very fair representation of the atmosphere that she creates... and yet some dude out there, wanted to hurt her! why? Oh, and in case you think that I am being somewhat biased? ON our first encounter - we went to a restaurant where the hostess complemented her on her incredible good looks... and the table next to us had a group of business men sitting there, and they could NOT stop staring at her... (I should add that she was dress very appropriately and not in any way to bring attention to herself, but rather a normal evening dress...)
Let's face it - there are folks out there who get great joy and pleasure from causing others pain. I've seen it before and I guess I will see it again.
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All of your comments are very good and shed light on both the reviewer and the reviewee's perspective.
However, in this instance the "gentleman" continued to make statements about his meeting with the provider like, "I would rather have a tooth pulled that go and see her again."
He would rebuff other reviewers. This was not on TER but another Board and the reviews on that Board did not all link together.
I can only surmise by his behavior (in writing) that he had a vendetta. As well as a lower class way of expressing himself.
We need to write accurate reviews and move on!
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Speaking of vendettas, here's an interesting example of one from Craigs List. This fellow has been posting this one for at least 3 weeks, and similar ones even longer.
Guess it wasn't a 10/10 experience?
IF he's moving on, it's at the speed of a very slow glacier.
I persoanlly am VERY careful about writing my reviews. I usually wait a week or so so its still fresh but I can more objective. However, I am careful to give a really bad review, ever. Most of my reviews fall between 7 & 8 with a couple 9s & 10s for exceptional quality and a couple bad ones 6 & below. I try to picture whether we just didnt hit it off, I had other things on my mind or she just wanted her money and for me to "hurry up and get off"
looks to me play NO PART in my service rating. seperate entirely. I am not 1 who is likely to give a more attractive woman a better review just becasue shes hot. I have had overweight not so pretty providers give me the best services ever. Those I would go back to in a minute becasue I dont need a hot 20yo who thinks her farts smell like roses..I would rather have a woman who enjoys spending time with me, looks don't matter. YMMV