I have some questions and inquiery....
When did the females start making the men lazy? I mean, when did the men stop buying Covers?
Now it seems that its the females responsibility?  I understand the man can't have covers cause of the SO.

*This is just me, feels like business and less fun.  When I have to go buy them :o(

Then the entire incall situation.  Makes me beleieve its a Business rather than an experience for adult pleasure.  a mutual agreement with benefits...  Ok, ok it' still both!!!  I get it.  I just recall when it was up to the man to book a room and call a girl.

Remember the words  "call girl"  hehehe..  I'm still old school when it comes to buying the covers, and doing the incall thing... I'm silly to believe  that Im the only one that feels this way ?
Perhaps Most females won't answer.  Why some of us rather be ok with expression the first amendment ;O)

sesos, baci, kises....
Vivianna

A guy is spending a crap load of money on us, why should he have to buy his own stuff to boot? Also, you would use another person's condoms? I sure as hell would not. Would be really cute if "John" was caught in CVS buying condoms when he is married, and does not use them with his wife.

I also prefer to use my own incalls which are by far better than even a 5 star hotel suite. I can set the mood, the lighting, music, candles, etc. I hate walking into a guy's room with the supermarket lights and the damn TV on....NOT erotic at all. I stopped doing outcalls for this very reason.

Guys PAY us for the service and the added comfort...we are not GFs, so if most wanted to book their own room and buy their own condoms, they could save money by not paying us and banging the assistant at the office.

Hell, I even provide wine, cheese, razors, toothbrushes, mouthwash, etc. It's only an extra 20-30 bucks per date, and half the guys don't even use it.




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I did buy some condoms and strawberry astroglide in the CVS store by the Monte Carlo hotel last trip.
And for your information. I am Not married.

Well said. If we have to buy condoms and get a room the possibilities of getting caught just keep going up.

You miss the entire point!  I wasn't refering to the entire date of when it changed.... When it became more of the incalls and ladies providing the supplies???  Speaking about what year???
That was the question....  I appreciate my lovers and gents that ask me on a date.... It wasn't more than that...
I was speaking about the times when men useto go buy paper books from adult stores and called the lady...  Hello???  Not about how you do your business.  This wasn't about who he is having sex with or (as you called it) "bagging" :O( or what he does with his money.  Or where he buys the covers... In reality that isn't my business.  

Some of us are here to enjoy the experience with a man that seeks low volume  ladies and sees this as a fun time, with benefits.  With No drama. yes, it helps with bills, but someof us actually enjoy meeting good people.  I don't see this as a business, because i would probably make bank and get jaded  and uptight after a while...  In reality were all her doing what we want...  We  conduct our life as we please.

***I totally understand what you just said about a mans situation**   Thats his choice, the men are big boys....

Point is >Things change....  He wants to play, then he better be safe, as well as us the Ladies/ prividers, or what ever people call us. Its what we answer too that maters ;o) I wouldn't want just anyone!!! that didn't care about his health...  When a man  spends money and has a fam, Im sure he can't be stupid and spen more than what he knows he can.  besides; if he reads reviews he knows what he will be paying for...
he will be having a great time if his dates smart.

** Again! this was about things changing.*** go back and read what I typed with my bad grammar***
P.s
Being  Open minded is ok,  However,  some of us can't  let go of our roots, and values. No mater how hot the experience is...  still feels funny buying the covers...  Things do change in life.... Nothing remains the same.... Think about it.

besos, baci, kisses
Viv

I look at it the way I try to look at most things:  treat the other person with respect and consideration.  Having said that, circumstances are certainly different for different people.

I am always on the road.  I will have a room anyway, and my preference is to invite the lady over to my place--but some just feel safer in their own surroundings and I have no issue with that.

If we both provide refreshments, that just provides more options; but I will usually make sure I bring some.  Covers?  Same thing--extra are OK, none is a problem.

If I am going to spend enough for a nice evening with a lady and an extra $30 or so on little things will make her smile, it's almost always money well spent.

I always thought the independent in call was the evolution of the escort industry?
I never played in the 90's, so I can only base my opinion on what I read, and experience I get on my own.
Isn't it safer to have your own place, and protection?
Safer on every level? LE, STD, and god knows what?
One thing I do know is when I go to an in call, the Escort is in control of the situation.



 

I have been a provider for less than 5 years, so how would I know when things changed? It has always been that way since I started which was 2008. No clue what your rant about being low volume and this being more than a business, has to do with anything. You made it sound as if it was an imposition for you to do these things, and I responded accordingly. Now, I see you want a date or an exact year when men stopped buying condoms and booking the room? I have no clue. You said "Have women made men lazy" suggesting, maybe they did. Your post is not clear at all, and the second one went off in left field about all kinds of other shit, that has nothing to do with anything.

You also said and I quote, "That it feels more business and less fun when YOU have to buy condoms," once again reiterating you don't like doing so. That has nothing to do with a year...that was a direct statement on your part.

And what the hell is "truthiness?" Is that even a word? When did things change? Probably with the introduction of online escort services, that allow us to do what we want, see who we want, and allow the guys to do the same. I have never been a "call girl" because I am email only.





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Sorry, but too many stories about guys poking holes in condoms, bringing expired condoms, wrong size, etc... I only use covers that I have bought. I am also allergic to several brands... so if the gent happens to bring one of those brands, than what? I would much rather prefer that I have the correct supplies & no surprises. Also, incall is not a requirement & many ladies are outcall only.

That is my point!
I am man enough to admit I am an idiot!
Ill screw it up somehow..?/!
Old rubber, the wrong kind. Yup!
I would never try to hurt a lady somehow, but there are assholes out there who would do stuff like that on pour pose!
Protect yourselves ladies!!!

If you can't make a post that people can understand, don't yell at them for giving you the wrong answer. That post was all over the damn place, and the second one even moreso. You give it a shot lol. I need to wash my eyes out.

Your right some feel safer in thier surroundings...  Its just nice when the men brings his favorite covers.  I won't put a Magnum on all the men, cause once I pulled it off with my V, maybe I need to stop doing those exercises down there ....  I didn't knwo about the diferent sizes...  Now, I have tuti fruti Y tamarindo lol..  Meaning  every color and size... lol...
How do the men feel when they go buy the feminine stuff for the SO? lol....


I was raised by a German father and Latin Mother  having refreshment was not a question, it was a thing we did to all that came to our home... My father lead by exaple.    

Oh my goodness.  When we have values in our home- you can't forget them... It's not about a business.  Some peole have NO clue, look around.  Haven't you ever been at a friend/persons home and they don't invite a glass of water???

Speak to the people that are actually well travelled and have experrience the poorest of the poorest, its about Principles...  Other cultures don't think its business, it a way of living... he way we have been raised....  

*Again, The Question was- Can anyone mention the year when INCALLS became  the thing with providers???
Besides, the ones that had a man running the business called "Pimps"

Or is my grammar really that bad> so I can start typing in french, German or wait ! Maybe the hardest language Hebrew or Arabic lol...  

oxo

Service and added comfort would be nice right now.........omg, bored and the weather sucks!!  lol.
Honestly, the in-call set up you have, sounds great, it's nice to be pampered on occasion. ( a good break from the real world ) Keep up the good work London.

It may be that Anglais is not her first language. She did say somewhere that she was learning various ones. But, I too was confused about just what her point was so I'll pass on attempting to decipher. LOL
 

I simply did not get the point with all the other stuff thrown in there that had nothing to do with anything. Now, I see her "roots" make her feel that buying condoms is tacky, but I guess being a hooker is not? Fk me...I gotta go get my heathen lol. Have a good weekend.

I didn't quite get it either.
I though the provider buying the condoms and having a nice incall was part of the service.
I've had ladies come to my place and stay the nite, but, i knew how to set the mood before she got there.
Anyhow, my hats off to the ladies who go the extra mile and give us our monies worth. ( that includes a nice relaxing enviroment )

Truthiness is a word

truth·i·ness  [troo-thee-nis]  Show IPA
noun
1.
the quality of seeming to be true according to one's intuition, opinion, or perception without regard to logic, factual evidence, or the like: the growing trend of truthiness as opposed to truth.
2.
Rare . truthfulness or faithfulness.

... I stop asking the ladies if they wanted me to bring my condoms.

Why? Because the answer was always the same... "It's ok, sweetie, I've got some!"

I haven't bought condoms in years.

Regarding the incalls... I have concluded that if the incalls were at the hotels, the providers included the room rates into the session rates. If it was at a private residence, the session rates may be a bit lower or the same. Just a bit more profit for the provider.

There have been a few times when a provider will ask me to get a room. I tell them this: "I will go with you to the front desk, ask for the room in YOUR name, I will pay in cash." I do not want any paper trails leading back to me.

Does that answer your questions?

Oh... there is no such word as 'truthiness'. There is a word 'truthfulness'.

Also, there's no such word as: 'inquiery', maybe you were looking for 'inquiry'?

I need to inquire about the truthfulness of that.

Serpius

It's really pretty simple.  If you want to make a living selling sex you better have condoms for your own good. Men won't bring them most of the time either because they are married and don't want to get caught with them or because they just plain don't give a shit about wearing one. Right or wrong it doesn't matter.  The escort brings the condoms because she wants to protect herself from disease and not have to send guys away and lose money because the guy didn't bring a rubber.  It's just common sense really.

FWIW, I love doing out call, booking the room, calling the lady and making it special and all...but she still brings the condoms...

Here is a wiki about it.

It was meant to be satirical, and not used as a substitute for the word: truthfully.

anyway. Times have changed and dirtbags are nastier in their ways. There was a story out a few months ago about a guy who was spreading "it" on purpose using various methods.

j/k but seriously, for safety reasons alone, a gal should provide these.

I do, nevertheless, carry some with me just for those rare occasions when she runs our or forgot them.

i sure do..i also bring my own plate and utensils too..i am spending a lot of money..according to the OP.s logic..why should she or the restaurant supply anything? common sense is surely dead..

Condoms annoy the crap out of me, being so sensitive...I need my special condoms (vegan) with minimum added ingredients and no ky or astroglide please (uhg) it's organic vegan goo for me...I make plenty of my own goo, but condoms dry me out...I'm with London...I prefer setting the mood, it sets my mood...bad music or sports in the background is so lame...or they just checked in and their crap is everywhere, uhg.
I encourage incall and please leave your chemical laden cheap covers at home...lol.
Viv, I think it's modern mentality...being more independent and having more control...mmm...control....yummy

your first response pretty much would have mirrored my own, with the exception of the fact that i actually feel that maintaining a private and cozy incall with all the comforts of home (if there's a woman with taste in that home) makes me feel MORE like an actual girlfriend, not less.

if the OP is only focusing on things "changing" from what in her mind were the good old days of call girl service, not many of us are of an age to really remark on that??? i suppose i was in elementary school at the time when that was the norm??? also maybe it's just me, but personally i would feel a whole lot more objectified and non-GFE like if a total stranger could call me or some agency and have me sent out to service his cock like he's ordering a pizza.

anywho, as for feeling uncomfortable about providing condoms etc., i don't get that one either. perhaps us younger generations are a bit different, but i have ALWAYS purchased my own condoms, since i began having sex (age 14), because if you trust a horny man to do the responsible thing when his heat is up then frankly you are an idiot. in college i was actually known as "the condom girl" because i kept such an extensive supply at all times, and didn't mind giving to those in need. many nights i'd be awoken from a sound sleep by some horny guy or girl in the dorm asking me for condoms. just think of all the disease and unplanned pregnancies i prevented!! lol.

so uh yeah, things change with time i guess. for some it's great, for others not so much, either way you have to live with it. ?

What if a guy pulls out a cover that has been in his wallet for a year?

Or if a lunatic puts pinholes in the condoms so that it will break easier?

Are condoms so expensive that you gotta bitch about paying for one or two during a session?

Excuse me? hmmm. Take a look.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
That word came from a man by the name of Stephen Colbert... lol...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert

Thanks for the spelling on the word "Inquiry"  If you were in my shoes, You would better understand why I type the way I do... it's ok, you don't know me...

We all have our ways how we get around this Hobby.  
We conduct our lives based on our survival skills, and in some cases, our living situation...
I respect what you had to say... enjoy your weekend
Viv    

It's Not about being slow.... Oh anyone being right!!!!!  It was a simple question... However you understood what I was trying to get across  to some degree. That was the question, when did it changed? Now it's a Great business for the females...

My roomate back in 1995, was a "call girl" not all this fancy names for us. That is where this came from,  she worked for an agency back then.  I'm sure she had to buy the covers, btu I never asked it wasn't my business.
Listen The Lady in me- just feels funny buying the covers, thats all... I'm a little different than most... You just said it yourself "you  purchased  them since you began having intercourse at a young age."  My point exactly.  

best of luck
besos
Viv


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