How old is too old to continue to provide? I have one of those birthdays coming up and am wondering if the reason my business has dropped off so much is because others view me as too old? I don't look my age at all, and although I am not skinny, I do have a nice curvy, womanly body (not BBW.) I have always had excellent reviews in the past and a good rep but things have definitely changed. I work very hard to be creative, honest and always exceed expectations. Thoughts?
thats when its time to walk away.
there are many women in their 50s and older still working.
there are loads of women in their 40s still playin.
I am coming up on 48yrs this summer is my 48th birthday. I am excited. Every birthday is exciting for me. I still intend to play here many yrs into my 50s at this point. I love what I do and am happy.
I'm not sure what you are tying to suggest with this. Care to clarify?
She's old as dirt, can you see that?
Also, she apparently (not verified) gives great head still, right?
What's to clarify? lmfao
I don't see the need to be sarcastic and rude.
But, it's hard to tell when they're being sarcastic, rude, or just generally crude. You just asked a sincere and legitimate question, which one would hope would get the same type of answer.
There could be other factors, other than your age, such as the economy, changes in the demographics of the hobbyists in your area, etc. I personally know several ladies, in their sixties, that I would like to spend time with, and if they provided, I would definitely set a date. Not certain if there would be repeat visits, but I'd be opened to making at least one appointment. The other issue that's not clear, to me, is what you do to get repeat business.
Good luck! Hope you get some good advice here.
you asked for clarification on a photo that expressly represents a point.
You call it sarcastic, I call it as asked, clarification. As for the Mangina below your post he can choose to explain it anyway he chooses so you get the point.
I didn't see it as sarcastic or rude. It was funny (and exaggerated, so maybe you can call it sarcastic) and certainly not meant as a slight toward you, in my opinion.
Perhaps your dull (or lack of) sense of humor and maybe your personality in general is why clients are staying away. Don't take this as a personal attack...just an observation from your post.
I am sure you can fill in the blanks.
If you don't see the need to be sarcastic and rude, than "you must not be from around these parts" lmao
Lighten the fuck up, and that goes for ManginaMatt as well. Sheesh, can't anyone appreciate raunchy and crude humor around here?
And of course leave it to mattgina to fly to the rescue of what appears to be a complete airhead!
Anyhoe, Gag is right, if your skin is that thin, maybe you need more internship time at the newbie board.
Personally I can appreciate raunchy crude humor, and have made a hobby out of collecting it for special occasions! LOL
Age is just a #
I find that most of my clients are older than I am. Mostly 50's.
Everyday I get an offer.
What forums do you use for advertising?
xoxo
Sexy
Not trying to be snarky, just honest.
Are you sure you "don't look your age?" You say you have a "womanly" body and are not BBW. Are you sure? Whose opinion are you taking - other women? Clients?
You need an unbiased opinion of yourself. If all the things you said were true, your business would not have dropped off... As a client, I don't care about the age number, I care about how she looks and whether she turns me on.
I think I know the difference between average and BBW. And yes, I am quite sure I don't look my age. I am told that all the time by many people. All the things I said are true so there doesn't appear to be a good reason.
Well, of course there is a reason. Trying to identify it is the issue. Maybe you're just hard to find. Maybe you need some help with your website. Many women really don't know how to present themselves. They choose ridiculous poses and other gimmicks to get attention and it detracts from their appeal. Since none of us know you, all we can do is some spit-balling here.
If so, good one. If not, what do we really have to go on from this alias poster, besides "her" word on it?
I have no idea if you are even a woman, much less if you are indeed younger looking than your age, not a BBW, etc. For all we know, even if you are being truthful, you could be some heinous creature who is delusional about her looks.
If you are real, and want honest advice, post under your real handle and reviews and we'll (some of us at least) give you our honest opinion.
PS I still think it's Little Phil fucking with us. lmao
I am obviously a heinous creature who is delusional about her looks. Likewise, no sense of humor or personality...and clearly no sense of self esteem. Especially now.
It was foolish and naive of me to ask such a question where there is such an obvious desire to attack rather than be helpful. I won't make that mistake again. Very sorry.
Heck I'm no spring chicken at 40. But hot damn, I must say I look good for my age 
For all we know the person posting as "still perky" isn't even a woman. So how does she expect us to give her honest advice when she can't be honest with us?
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And, regarding taking someone's "word on it," I see no listing of reviews for you, yet you claim a long list of endeavors with providers. I never thought about not taking your word for it. 
not to mention dozens of TER members, both hobbyists and providers who have met me. StillPerky has a grand total of five posts, all from today. We have no idea if "she" is a provider, or even a woman for that matter.
But, Mr Gambler...YOU would have the potential to know that. 
Did you send that email???
I'll do it now. lol
My curiosity now outweighs my good sense. lmao
to 82. I am 45 yrs young. To an 80 yr old, I am considered a young thing!
Keep going until you no longer enjoy it.
ability to perform, her attitude, demeanor and experience rather than age, then I can answer definately yes in my own case; and I don't think I'm alone in that opinion.
If your business is falling off, you might want to consider other factors other than age.
clients that might be younger than you. Do you still feel and act like a 40 YO?
Since you indicate you work very hard to be creative, honest and always exceed expectations your performance, attitude, demeanor and experience are probably not significant factor in the reason for the decline in you business. That does leave age as one possible factor and it not surprising since according to a TER poll 70% of hobbyist prefers Providers younger than 30 years old. How old is too old is when request for your services at the rate you willing accept for that service decreases to an unacceptable level for you.
Age alone is not the issue. It's what a given person finds attractive and that is subjective and varies from person to person. Generally speaking; a fit person has a wider sphere of attraction than a non-fit person. If you're heavy or you've allowed your physique to decline over time, then fewer men will be attracted to you. If you've published photos that are not current and accurate, you'll create unrealistic expectations and disappoint some clients. I'm not suggesting you've done any of this. Just food for thought.
Some of you are the creeps we all see looking at 16 year olds at the mall.
I always say that I will not pay for something I can come by naturally.
Are you a 40+ out-of-work pissed off HO??? Sorry bout your luck.LOL
But unfortunately for you I'm young and happily occupied.
Are you an ego maniacal pissed off TRICK???
Sorry about YOUR luck!
Internet fight with yourself. I'll never understand the group of you who get your jollies getting on the internet to talk nasty shit to strangers. I suppose its an expression of your frustration...get some help hon!
Touching of course is quite a different matter.
OTOH there should be a crime in even looking at a 12 year old.
there's a market for everyone when you get ready to retire, go out gracefully.
The number of baby boomers in the hobby has declined.
People don't have the money to spend on the hobby.
Many people in their prime are sending their kids to college where they have to spend $30,000 - $60,000 a year for 1 student.
Average hourly rates have come down.
The IRS has increased contribution limits for 401K plans.
"The number of baby boomers in the hobby has declined."
This statement sort of contradicts your notion it has NOTHING to do with age. I suspect the average Hobbyist is 10-20 years older than the Provider they see. In addition with age hobbyist libido decline. The libido decline accelerates with increasing age and many exited the hobby or at least significantly reduce their participation. As a results baby boomer Providers will have reduce client pool interested in seeing them or at the very least the frequency of her baby boomer client visits will decline.
Tell that to this 44 yr's young busy schedule!
BUT, my advice to this lady is "reinvent yourself."
You don't have to change things entirely, just throw a twist into your look, your offerings, or your marketing.
Believe me, it works. There is a market for EVERYTHING, you just have to figure out how to work it.
There is also a trend these days that the younger gentleman just love to get with the older ladies.
“There is a market for EVERYTHING, you just have to figure out how to work it.
There is also a trend these days that the younger gentleman just love to get with the older ladies."
Yes there is a market for everything but the sizes of the different markets for everything are also very different and that is what matters. Yes many senior Providers have figure it out by offering lower rates than the average and special services like BBBJ and Greek to increase their marketability and expand the pool size of interested hobbyist. Yet that also has it limits.
What is your evidence for the trend of younger hobbyist preferring ladies 40 + years old? From reading the boards most hobbyist appear not to be youngins with a media age in the 40’s and prefer ladies younger than 30 by a 2 to 1 margin.
"What is your evidence for the trend of younger hobbyist preferring ladies 40 + years old? From reading the boards most hobbyist appear not to be youngins with a media age in the 40’s and prefer ladies younger than 30 by a 2 to 1 margin."
The answer may well be in the link provided. It would be referred to the Cougars and the Cubs who seek them out, as evidenced from the abundance of such dating sites springing up all over.
As I pointed out most of hobbyist appeared not to be youngins with median age in 40's. Not the typical group interested in paying to seeing ladies 10 to 20 years their senior which would be their equivalent of a Cougar. Certainly their preference for Providers older than them is not as much their preference in seeing ladies 10 or 20 years younger than them. This is supported by a TER Poll in which 70% of hobbyist indicate a preference for Provider younger than 30 years old. Your own behavior also demonstrate a strong preference for ladies younger than 40. Out of 47 Provider you have listed reviewed on , none were older than 45, 3 (6%) were between 41-45, 9 (19%) were between 36-40, 6 (13%) were between 31-35, 11 (23%) between 26-30, 15 (32%) were between 21-25, and 3(6%) were between 18-20
Finally it is important to note none of the links you cite involved Pay for Play and not cougar club were the sex is free. How many youngins are willing to pay 200 to 400/hr to have sex with 45+ year old Provider? You evidently are not willing! As I said before many graying Provider’s have lower rates to increase the pool size of hobbyist that would be interested in seeing them.
The providers can initiate a "blue hair special" rofl
I have to agree with Bodercollie, Cougars might be getting laid in the Civvie world, but in the P4P arena, us baby boomer are by far the dominant force in the market, and most of us are interested in women younger than us, not older.
There certainly is a contingent that prefers the more mature ladies, but I would disagree that they are anywhere near the majority. Of course a man of 70, living on a fixed income, would find a more modestly priced 40 yr old who appriciated him, preferable to a 20 something, high priced hardbody who might look down her nose at him.
My rates may seem low to most of you, but for my area of the country, they are actually high. And I don't have gray hair! LOL
And youngens nowadays have high tech jobs and they can afford to pay. Some more so than the older gents cause they were raised on the computer.
Then there are the older gents who have the their own business and they don't want a 20 something, cause they would feel intimidated and they don't trust the younger ladies cause they are afraid of pimps, drug use,...et cetera. (Not that I think or agree that all young ladies fall into that category by any means....)
And finally, the majority of my clients are NOT on TER. So all the TER statistics are pretty meaningless for my market.
And I don't delude myself to believe that my scenario is in the majority of the hobby, but don't discount a mature ladies worth, please!
Happy Hobbying!
why should any of us be made to feel like we should just hang it up and walk away just because we don't fit the mold of the TER statistics?
I just don't get that thinking. If you don't prefer a mature lady, then don't call them.
That is the great thing about this hobby, is everybody has different tastes and there IS something for everyone. I thought that is why we all are here is to do what we want, and to have what we like and a large variety of it. So why would you want to put limits?
And there is a lot to be said for experience and a good track record as well. I left that off the first posting.
When she commented; "There is also a trend these days that the younger gentleman just love to get with the older ladies."
There are a lot of cubs out there in the civie world going after older well to do Cougars. That does not translate into the provider world and I understand that. Shit I cannot even chase a cougar if I wanted to see pic for reason.
"I've fallen and I can't get up"
I have no idea what you would want to do with said cougar once you caught her however.lmao
Yes, I am a pig, and a shallow pig at that. I am honest though, and I applaud the fact that many men choose to chase after cougars, it leaves more hardbodied twentysomethings for me. lol
No problems. I am sure it's happening in the civie world but that's gold digging and that's nothing new either.
I don't have studies or statistics, but I can honestly say that just in my life, I've seen an increase in younger gentleman visiting me in the past year or so. My last date just left and he was 31. A manager by trade and a date check member.
I would take a guess that lately the majority of gentleman callers have been in their 30's and early 40's.
I've had older gentleman look me square in the eye and say, I am so glad to see a lady your age available. I have been visiting with a 22 yr old girl and she's beautiful and nice, don't get me wrong; but it just made me feel wrong or bad.
I saw pics of the girl and she is a hottie.
Go figure!
It's not an age thing (to me at least) as much as a bad choice on my part. My choices tend to preclude me from picking ladies over a certain age, so I just need to either learn which 22 yr olds to avoid, or I need to shake off that feeling. Either way works for me.
You know what they say; if the foo shit's, wear it. Something like that.
If you don't mind, it doesn't matter.
There are all kinds of guys for all kinds of ladies. Period. At some point it will be an issue, but hard to say when... Maybe you could be working the bingo hall when your 80... who knows. Until then, have the time of your life.
Your own behavior demonstrates age is not mind over matter. Out of 23 Providers you have listed reviewed on , none were older than 45, 1 (4%) were between 41-45, , 2 (9%) were between 31-35, 5 (22%) between 26-30, 14 (61%) were between 21-25, and 1(4%) were between 18-20. Age appears to strongly matter to you.
Why is interjecting your opinons on everyone else so important to you?
Damn I just realized I have landed myself in the middle of a dog fight, perhaps?
Ahhh, but the thirty somethings have just worn me out today! 2 of them today and another scheduled bright and early in the morning!
Good god, get out and have some fun like the men in my area do!
Nighty nite.
Dear Still Perky:
I was wondering in what part of the country would you reside and if you have discussed this with other providers in your locale? Also another fair question is have you discussed this with other providers who happen to be in your age bracket also? There should be a professional development convention for escorts and one of the seminars that should be offered is how to market yourself at certain ages. This would be critical and they should have certain providers come in who are successful but older to give certain tips and mentoring with respect to this. I am also wondering if you could go too Nevada and have an informational interview with an older worker who might work in the brothels to share her marketing secrets with you and see if there is anything to be learned with respect to that. I am sure that they have websites and other items that they would use to attract their customer base. Also I find that you are an intelligent woman. With this said use your customers, to find out what was the one thing that attracted you and other items that you can inquire about that made their experience with you a memorable one. With these questionnaires and surveys this might start to give you a guide on what you can change or ameliorate to insure success in the twilight of your providing career.