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I'm not doing too well at this hobbying thing
89Springer 3441 reads
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I'm beginning to wonder if I have some kind of curse when it comes to hobbying. Things have not gone well.

First time out was in August of 2011. Saw two providers at a NV brothel. Was very nervous, and the clock was ticking. I enjoyed it, but not as much as I thought I would. Too many restrictions, and the warnings about the clock running out didn't help.

Second time was in August of 2012. Agency provider. Didn't look like her photos, her touring hotel room was a mess, her lingerie was worn out and a bit frayed, She complained about a lot of things, from razor stubble when I was DATY (I'd shaved an hour before seeing her), about having her legs raised when I was DATY, and  a bunch of other things I thought were just plain weird. Viagra makes it take a long time for me to come, and I give her credit for her effort. When I finally started to come, though, she ran to the sink to get a towel, leaving me to lie there with my cock squirting all over my stomach. I liked her well enough, and enjoyed talking to her. The only thing I can figure is that she was tired, sore from a previous session, burned out, or all of the above.

Third time out was a home run. Beautiful face, incredible edible body, performance out of this world, down to earth, fun to talk to and be with. I was ready to continue to see her until she retired. I saw her several times. Then she started doing stuff that pretty much forced me to stop seeing her. Much as I regretted it, if I'd continued to see her, I'd deserve to have "mangina" tattooed on my forehead. It still bums me out that it had to go that way.

The next two times out were a bit better than the second time in 2012, but not by much. I thought I'd try some providers who weren't in the 9 or 10 category, thinking maybe the one before had a star complex. The women were nice enough, but things just didn't click. I wouldn't recommend either of them.  BJ's were what I would expect from a first-timer in high school. With both it was almost like they were doing things by the numbers.  

Back to the highly-ranked ones. The next time out was with a provider who's in the top 50 of TER's national Top 100 list. The photos on her website made her look incredible, and her 10/10 ratings and stellar reviews made it seem like a sure thing. I got there, she was running late, and when she opened the door she was in a bathrobe with her hair still wet and little or no makeup. We had agreed on a wardrobe, she said she had it (heels, lace top thigh-high stockings, bra and panties), but she didn't have it. No big deal. What was a big deal was the little dog she had. I asked if she had someplace to put the dog, and she said he'd just howl if he was away from her. So we had the dog on the bed while we're doing stuff. I was getting a BJ, and she's petting the dog at the same time. I asked politely about putting the dog elsewhere, and she said again that he'd just make a lot of noise. I'd really been looking forward to that meeting, and was really let down.  

There's a provider I've been wanting to see since last summer. Her website is one of the best I've seen (suggesting to me she's detail-oriented), and her professionally-done photos (no Aldo) are great. Her reviews are fantastic. She looks fantastic in her photos, and every review says  she looks better than her photos.  She travels from time to time, and is within driving distance a few times a year. I contacted her six weeks ago to set up a meeting. We agreed to meet yesterday. She was supposed to contact me last week just to let me know that things were still a go. I didn't hear from  her. I emailed her on Tuesday to ask if Thursday was still a go, but didn't get a reply. She was supposed to contact me on Wednesday to confirm for yesterday, and to let me know where I should go, since I was driving in from out of state. I never heard from her. I emailed her late in the morning to tell her that I needed to know by the end of the day what was going on. I never heard from her. Considering how organized she is, always replying to emails within a few hours, I have to think that something happened. I can't think of any reason why she'd change her mind.

Not a very good track record, is it?

I have a pretty good idea as to what  some of the replies are going to say, so let me head off those right now. I don't pester the ladies with emails. I request to see the provider and, if she replies, then email to set something up. Once things are nailed down, that's it, unless she emails about something else, or if there's something in her reply that is unclear.

Wardrobe requests are along the lines of high heels, stockings, panties and bra. I would think all providers own those.  

I'm 63, and I always mention my age in my initial contact so that she can decline if that's an issue. I am always clean, neatly dressed, hands clean, fingernails manicured the day before, and look normal. I don't request anything unusual.  

I don't get it.

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0603450onThe1839 reads

'hit' or miss with most. You are doing everything right it sounds and thensome, sometimes things just don't always work out and usually for the oddest reasons out of our control. Like I always say in this gig....if the 'stars align' then it's meant for those to meet............simple as that. Keep your chin up. Maybe change up your approach into the ladies you are selecting. Maybe, Idk. Here's some lovin' xoxoxo

I'll look at the reviews and see if there are any other guys that have seen the lady in question then see if we have seen any other of the same providers. Then i have a good idea of how our ideas compare. Back channel also helps.

GaGambler2258 reads

Six weeks out is a very long time to be booking in this industry. One thing I've noticed is that the longer a guy says he is booking in advance, the more problems he seems to have. A LOT of things can happen in 6 weeks. The shorter the window, the less opportunity for shit to go wrong.

Or maybe you are right, and this hobby is just not for you? I would say I have maybe a 5% cancellation rate, but I book all my appointments on much shorter notice, which is why I almost never need to cancel either.

89Springer1880 reads

GaGambler, I booked that far out with her because I'd missed being able to see her three times before. Whenever she'd be in a city within driving distance, she'd get booked right away. If I'd waited to get closer to yesterday, it's likely I would have missed out again.

GaGambler1508 reads

but you still did miss out.

Like I said, maybe this hobby is not for you?

I am sure you must have noticed by now that some guys have huge problems scheduling and others of us don't, this can't just be the luck of the draw.

I know some of us might (ok, no "might" to it) come across as assholes from time to time, but when was the last time you heard me or CPA, Inicky, Jack, Panthera et al complaining about getting stood up, much less constantly getting stood up? It is something to think about, have you ever thought that either we are doing something right, or that you are doing something wrong? when you have a pattern that emerges over not days or weeks, but over years, luck most likely has nothing to do with it.

89Springer1752 reads

If I was constantly being cancelled, then there would be a pattern. This is the first time for that, and I don't know yet what happened with her; is that even being "cancelled"?  I've been rescheduled before with another provider, but just that one.

I've never had a little dog in the bed before, and I don't think that would ever happen again.

Lackluster sessions? I expect that would happen again, although I don't know how often.

It may be that I'm not cut out for this, but I don't know what I'm doing that would cause such a variety of problems. If it were one or two things, that I could see. When there's a problem after some pretty cut-and-dried emails, what could I have done? She never met me.

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0603450onThe1588 reads

booking out weeks in advance comes with the territory for 'some' of us, yes, including myself. It's a hard way to do business, but sometimes it's the only way. Gentlemen travel to NY and set things up wayyyy in advance and yes, anything and everything can go wrong in that timeframe. There is nothing you are doing wrong in this scenario...if she is a high volume lady which it seems she is if she books up that quickly, find someone who isn't and go that route.  

Guys who 'live' where there is a plethora of ladies to choose don't have this problem. Guys who have to travel to see someone on a regular basis, yes, sometimes problems always arise. You can feel free to email me and I'd have a few stories to share so you don't feel so singled out here. What you speak of here, happens all the time. Just no one talks about it.  

In the meantime, let this 'one' go. No reason to get all crazy about it. Truly. And watch, the next one will end up being your new ATF...I can see it.  

;)

GaGambler1692 reads

It appears you have a few choices here. You can get mad, which doesn't really seem your style. You can quit this "hobby" which I seriously doubt you want to do. Or you can do as Taylor suggests and chalk it up to the risks you take when by necessity you have to book several weeks out, and either accept those risks or schedule with ladies with shorter lead times.

One other thing you might consider, "being in demand" is often simply a marketing ploy and I wouldn't let myself be stampeded into booking with a lady simply because her "dance card" fills up rapidly. That is certainly no guarantee of a great session, it might mean that "your" appointment is not as important to her as a less in demand woman's might be.

0603450onThe1779 reads

be aligned today for a few of my buddies and I here. But listen, again, I think the ladies who book many in a day whether she's top 100 or not, you become a # just like any other big corporation. That's how they make the big bucks and works for them. I hand it to them, I couldn't do it, it's a lot of work coordinating everything etc etc. If you don't want to be a #, find a woman who is in the middle ground here. There are plenty to choose from. Just because someone is in demand most certainly doesn't mean she's the best either...it's all 'hype'. You guys buy into that shit like a kid in a candy store. It is hilarious.  

Go with your gut and book someone you hit it off with. Period. And if it's meant to be, it will be, no matter how many weeks in advance or months. It sucks, it just does. This is not a world of 'waiting'...we all want what we want 'now'. Hell, I'm a 'now' girl myself, and when I want something, I want it yesterday. So for me to wait 30+ days to meet with someone which happens all the time with me feels like literally eternity. It's just something I have to suck up and go with and it allows me to get to know the gentleman I am speaking with on a whole other level. That when we meet, it literally is like old friends, no joke. But until my scope of availability changes here, there's really nothing I can do about it. Although, I'm not sure I'll ever be a 'drop of a dime' kind of lady here.

GaGambler1275 reads

as I am not one to chase any of the ladies on any of the "top lists" for the very reasons you cite. Yes the stars must be in perfect alignment today for us to agree so completely on any subject.

Personally I know my schedule is constantly changing and since I like to treat people the way I want to be treated I almost never book more than a day or two in advance as I often don't know what country I will be in next week, much less whether or not I will be able to uphold a commitment to have sex with someone several weeks from now. Since I know that my chances of canceling are high, I just don't  make commitments that I am unsure I can keep. It's not fair to the lady IMO. I do realize that means that there are certain women I will not ever be able to see because short notice doesn't work for them. I accept that fact and see the women that are willing to see me on shorter notice. I find life is so much easier when you don't try to force things.

0603450onThe1675 reads

was an interesting day all around, everything, I mean everything was in sync. Interesting to say the least. Too bad I didn't have a date tonight. Damn LOL. Too bad Inicky won't come wash my hair haha. See, I'm cute sometimes, I'm not always a bitch, you'd be amazed.  

;)

AnotherDonJohn1377 reads

... Damn, those pills are powerful stuff.

Posted By: TaylorSteele
was an interesting day all around, everything, I mean everything was in sync. Interesting to say the least. Too bad I didn't have a date tonight. Damn LOL. Too bad Inicky won't come wash my hair haha. See, I'm cute sometimes, I'm not always a bitch, you'd be amazed.  
   
 ;)

89Springer1596 reads

Right now I'm not mad. I'm assuming something came up.

I don't know who of these providers is low volume and who's high volume. It doesn't matter. What matters is that I get to see her on time and we have a good time. That's it.

Taylor said: "Go with your gut and book someone you hit it off with"

That would be the provider I saw last year multiple times, but who started taking advantage of my good nature. She is absolutely fantastic. I loved every minute I spent with her, and if I'd had the money I would have spent more time. To see her again would mean swallowing my pride, being a "mangina", and asking her to agree not to reschedule me or do other things that pissed me off.

I'm not flush with cash sufficiently to just try out different providers. I go with what looks promising. The one with the dog just completely blindsided me.

This business of having to drive a couple of hours or travel for a couple of days, only to be disappointed, may not be a good idea. There's third-tier providers in the larger city 45 minutes away. I could always just book with some $200 an hour "blow and go's" and be done with it. Wouldn't be anywhere near as much fun as I was having last year, though.

0603450onThe1563 reads

but this is not the place to discuss that. If you found a woman who was 'fantastic' in your eyes then swallowing your pride is something any grown man will do for a fantastic woman. Never is it a mangina thing. But just be sure whatever she did isn't something too off kilter I guess. You are obviously a great guy and I can see someone taking advantage of your good nature. Don't ever let that happen and be sure she is worth it if you go that route.  

Please do not do the blow n go girls Springer...you're clearly a 'connection' guy. You will be wasting your money vs saving it for something that actually means something to you. Seriously, nothing against those girls, but that is not 'you'. Don't ever 'resort' to something less than what you want. 45min is nothing for travel to a larger city. So look there for a connection girl with more selection. Do NOT give up dammit lol.

I might bitch to my buddies though.
But you're right that I don't get stood up much.  I've had a few need to re-schedule but it happens rarely.  I'm not sure what Springer's doing wrong and it may have something to do where he's playing, but because of  the alias it's hard to know.

But rather than figure it out, what you need is an uplifting talk from a wise old philosopher, so give a listen to this guy and then you'll lift yourself up, dust yourself off, and show the world...

So the girl was a NC/NS yesterday? Maybe something happened considering she's good with communication.

Give it time.

89Springer1847 reads

She's been excellent with communication, so I'm thinking something happened. I'm hoping it's not something bad for her.

Communication seems to be a pretty common problem. I told the provider with the small dog that I would be driving from out of state to see her, and that I don't receive emails on my phone, so she should call or text if there's any change. When I got home I found that she'd sent an email saying that she was running late

Yeah, I finally succumbed to getting a phone. I was convinced. And just in time for someone who didn't have access to email outside of the home. Phew! Close one lol.

Im so sorry that you have such a bad experience. IMO I really prefer over 50's. And what you mention regarding your request it doesnt seem to be too difficult for me.
You may need a latina, low volumen with good references and plenty of time to rock you world.
:-)
Hugs!  
Paola

VOO-doo1401 reads

From what you said, these are popular touring girls who seem to have tons of appt's. So they either don't properly appreciate your business, or are just too busy to prepare adequately. Or a mixture of both.  

The dog is just odd...I've known girls w/pets in their incalls, but not while traveling...and the pets were always confined and well-behaved. It's strange that nobody mentioned it in reviews.

I have no idea where you hobby, or what the scene is like. But did you ever consider giving a local girl a try? Perhaps someone on Eros or even BP? A girl who only works once, twice per week and would love a repeat client who books 3-4 hour dates?  

Just because they don't have reviews doesn't mean they won't offer a quality experience. We were all new once, and might have even posted on (gasp!) backpage...not all girls are aware of the touring circut or TER. Some are aware, but not interested. A few weeks ago, a client of mine surprised me with a double with another girl (a favorite of his)...she was pretty and tons of fun...I assumed she was established and well-known. When I looked up her name, I was astonished to learn that she was unreviewed (none anywhere) with no website. Just an Eros ad. So just because she's not a 'big name', don't discount her. Some girls just like to keep it low-key and sometimes those girls are great.

89Springer1460 reads

You misunderstand. The girls aren't touring. I'm the one who's travelling to their big cities to see them. The exception is yesterday. She travels on business, and books customers when she's in a particular city on business. Her calendar is on her website. She has just a few days a month where she's booking appointments.  

The brothel girls and the agency girls were high volume. The one with the dog and the one I saw several times I don't think are high volume. Maybe. The one I saw several times doesn't advertise anywhere. Not Eros, P411, on TER, or anywhere. She doesn't need to.

VOO-doo1766 reads

Whatever the number they are seeing, they are busy enough that they are not focusing on YOU the way you want them to. They're busy enough that it makes them distracted and somewhat unappreciative.  

There are quality girls who will prepare for and appreciate your business. Although, some girls who are high-volume have no problem delivering excellent service, every time, it's rare (the few girls who can pull that off for years become the legendary names)...it's human nature to 1) Get distracted/overwhelmed, and 2) Take success for granted. Sounds like that's what's happening to in your case.

IMO, you're relying overly upon the Top 100 list and TER. Like I said, there are tons of great girls who are unreviewed or lightly reviewed.

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I have been at this on and off for a few years with not 1 review and do very well. I realize that with none I miss out on those guys that live by them and that is in fact very okay by me.  

More than a  few times mongers have taken a chance and been very happily surprised. I understand their reticence and will never criticize any guy who wont see unreviewed ladies. There are certain guys I won't see so each to his or her own.

Advertise locally and nationally. Which then points them to my website. My website has been amazing at helping guys decide. Not because it is loaded with acronyms etc because in fact, it is VERY discreet. I thought long and hard about how I wanted to present myself to attract the guys I wanted to see. I have been very lucky indeed.

I have met some great guys and some hobbyists, that for some reason went against the grain and contacted me. If I read their reviews or profile and know I will not be able to fulfill their desires I will let them know so they can choose a better companion.  

Both of us have been very pleasantly surprised with each other and have remained client/provider for a number of years.

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89Springer1718 reads

I don't look at the top 100 list when trying to find someone. I know the sores are faked. I glanced a couple of times at the Top 100 list and was surprised to see a couple of the girls I'd seen on there.  

I do look at the reviews. I don't know another way to figure out who's what.

VOO-doo1490 reads

I guess there's not scientific method...

The other girl I saw a few weeks ago had obviously real and unretouched photos, a very literate bio, and she screened. Her screening req's were listed in her Eros ad as she didn't have a site. She also mentioned that she did not accept same day appt's. I'm assuming that my client contacted her and was reassured by a pleasant, professional response? Obviously he took a risk, but it worked for him.

I've met lots of girls who worked completely off the grid, especially when I was new...and a lot of famous names. The sex/attitude was not very different (on the whole). A few were pretty lackluster, though, I have to say...which I can't really say about TER-reviewed girls. If they're well-reviewed, very little chance of them being completely indifferent, inconsistent, or lazy...

One more thing is that lot of girls who get good reviews and don't get reviewed often sometimes see lots of regulars.

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vast majority go well for me and while I have had some shitty experiences they are only a small fraction. If I recall correctly, I've been stood up twice total and I hobby at least once a week or so,  aside from last year when I took a long break.  
 
I didn't "out" the girls who NCNS on the local board,  never mentioned her name, instead I simply let the girl know it's not nice to NCNS.  

I hardly even post on my local board anymore lol

Most sessions go very very smoothly for me,  maybe cuz I'm pretty laid back in person than I sound with my drunk "board persona" but  I don't think my generally happy hobby experience were completely related to that either.  
 
Maybe try doing a more thorough research on the girls you see by searching the boards or checking the credibility of the reviewers who posted.  Stick to well reviewed girls with many reviews for now and see if you still have that problem

89Springer1647 reads

Drunk Asian, the provider who I saw several times, the one with the small dog, and the one who for now is just MIA are all in TER's top 100 nationwide. Tons of excellent reviews.

GaGambler1572 reads

Not to mention that all of these "top" lists here on TER are one of the biggest causes of review manipulation.

and DA, are you drunk already, 89S listed three ladies, not just two. and since there are only 100 "top 100" ladies to begin with, I think three percent of them with these types of issues might not necessarily be a trend, but it is a statistically relevant number.

89Springer1299 reads

Maybe it is. But at least there's a lot of extremely good reviews for all of them.

You mentioned before that maybe I'm just not cut out for this. Doesn't that require that there be some pattern to what I'm doing or doing wrong? Do you see any pattern in all this? Maybe I"m missing it. Or maybe it's a couple of "meh" dates followed by a series of fantastic ones, then a couple of "meh's" again, then a provider who's unprepared, and now one who for the moment is MIA. That could be a pattern. ;)

GaGambler1481 reads

and I don't really think you meant it when you said it.

Things do seem to run in streaks, you could go your next twenty sessions in a row without a hitch, you never know.

The one thing I do know is that the longer out you schedule the higher the risk of the appointment not happening. If getting blown off is really going to ruin your day, you might consider not booking with women where that is a requirement. It seems rather obvious that even when booking with highly reviewed providers it's no guarantee that things will actually work out. Once again, I am just going by your own words. I don't have any of these problems, i am simply trying to help.

89Springer1609 reads

No, GaG, you don't have this problem. You apparently are able to book with girls who are in the same area or city as you. I don't have that going for me (unless I do the $200 "B&G" girls as I mentioned earlier).

I'm not going to dwell on this. It just hit me today that I haven't been faring very well. I was hoping somebody might offer some Solomon-like wisdom, but I knew that wouldn't happen.

GaGambler1512 reads

that you cut the NCNS bitch in half. lol

Sorry, but I think I gave the best advice on this subject weeks ago, MOVE.

and yes I know that's not an option, so I guess since I can't really be of any help, I might as well make fun of you. After all just because you are having a bad day doesn't mean that the rest of us can't have some fun at your expense

I said well reviewed,  not TER 100.  A girl who is #100 on TER 100 prolly wouldn't have good enough reviews to qualify as well reviewed anyways.  

but I'm thinking maybe it's more of him that's causing the shitty experiences not necessarily the providers.

89Springer1742 reads

How exactly would I cause providers to be late and just out of the shower on first dates, or have dogs in their beds, or to be NCNS for a first date, or have dirty hotel rooms and frayed lingerie?  

If you said my mojo bones weren't right, I'd say you were on to something.

I have p4p for a long time and for the most part try to stay utr and seldom post here.  Only once has a lady declined to see me 2nd time around. I clicked, she didnt.....no hard feelings.   All I can tell you is that in this world there is no rhyme or reason, and ymmv.  Ladies I thought would be average have been great repeats, and other's I thought would rock my world were just mediocre and 1 time shots (No pun intended). I just chalk it up to hobby experiences.  There are more good times ahead for you. Just relax and don't get discouraged.  Just my thoughts from the Governors Mansion!

Posted By: 89Springer
I'm beginning to wonder if I have some kind of curse when it comes to hobbying. Things have not gone well.  
   
 First time out was in August of 2011. Saw two providers at a NV brothel. Was very nervous, and the clock was ticking. I enjoyed it, but not as much as I thought I would. Too many restrictions, and the warnings about the clock running out didn't help.  
   
 Second time was in August of 2012. Agency provider. Didn't look like her photos, her touring hotel room was a mess, her lingerie was worn out and a bit frayed, She complained about a lot of things, from razor stubble when I was DATY (I'd shaved an hour before seeing her), about having her legs raised when I was DATY, and  a bunch of other things I thought were just plain weird. Viagra makes it take a long time for me to come, and I give her credit for her effort. When I finally started to come, though, she ran to the sink to get a towel, leaving me to lie there with my cock squirting all over my stomach. I liked her well enough, and enjoyed talking to her. The only thing I can figure is that she was tired, sore from a previous session, burned out, or all of the above.  
   
 Third time out was a home run. Beautiful face, incredible edible body, performance out of this world, down to earth, fun to talk to and be with. I was ready to continue to see her until she retired. I saw her several times. Then she started doing stuff that pretty much forced me to stop seeing her. Much as I regretted it, if I'd continued to see her, I'd deserve to have "mangina" tattooed on my forehead. It still bums me out that it had to go that way.  
   
 The next two times out were a bit better than the second time in 2012, but not by much. I thought I'd try some providers who weren't in the 9 or 10 category, thinking maybe the one before had a star complex. The women were nice enough, but things just didn't click. I wouldn't recommend either of them.  BJ's were what I would expect from a first-timer in high school. With both it was almost like they were doing things by the numbers.  
   
 Back to the highly-ranked ones. The next time out was with a provider who's in the top 50 of TER's national Top 100 list. The photos on her website made her look incredible, and her 10/10 ratings and stellar reviews made it seem like a sure thing. I got there, she was running late, and when she opened the door she was in a bathrobe with her hair still wet and little or no makeup. We had agreed on a wardrobe, she said she had it (heels, lace top thigh-high stockings, bra and panties), but she didn't have it. No big deal. What was a big deal was the little dog she had. I asked if she had someplace to put the dog, and she said he'd just howl if he was away from her. So we had the dog on the bed while we're doing stuff. I was getting a BJ, and she's petting the dog at the same time. I asked politely about putting the dog elsewhere, and she said again that he'd just make a lot of noise. I'd really been looking forward to that meeting, and was really let down.  
   
 There's a provider I've been wanting to see since last summer. Her website is one of the best I've seen (suggesting to me she's detail-oriented), and her professionally-done photos (no Aldo) are great. Her reviews are fantastic. She looks fantastic in her photos, and every review says  she looks better than her photos.  She travels from time to time, and is within driving distance a few times a year. I contacted her six weeks ago to set up a meeting. We agreed to meet yesterday. She was supposed to contact me last week just to let me know that things were still a go. I didn't hear from  her. I emailed her on Tuesday to ask if Thursday was still a go, but didn't get a reply. She was supposed to contact me on Wednesday to confirm for yesterday, and to let me know where I should go, since I was driving in from out of state. I never heard from her. I emailed her late in the morning to tell her that I needed to know by the end of the day what was going on. I never heard from her. Considering how organized she is, always replying to emails within a few hours, I have to think that something happened. I can't think of any reason why she'd change her mind.  
   
 Not a very good track record, is it?  
   
 I have a pretty good idea as to what  some of the replies are going to say, so let me head off those right now. I don't pester the ladies with emails. I request to see the provider and, if she replies, then email to set something up. Once things are nailed down, that's it, unless she emails about something else, or if there's something in her reply that is unclear.  
   
 Wardrobe requests are along the lines of high heels, stockings, panties and bra. I would think all providers own those.  
   
 I'm 63, and I always mention my age in my initial contact so that she can decline if that's an issue. I am always clean, neatly dressed, hands clean, fingernails manicured the day before, and look normal. I don't request anything unusual.  
   
 I don't get it.  

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Agency girls, some BP fiascos, then I found TER which helped immensely.  At least I could screen out the ladies that I definitely didn't want to see.  Have found the rating system useful if you throw out the highs and lows and just look at the average reviews for the lady.

Now I'm going to go mangina on you.  I require GFE, and dislike assumed personas from providers.  I'd rather that they just relax and not try to impress me with their over-the-top O's and lots of false compliments.  I do understand that the only reason they are there is because of the money and that's fine.  I wouldn't be banging a hot young chick at my age any other way.
That said, you get better chemistry with some people than others, and that goes for providers as well.  I found a regular that I've been seeing too often for my budget, but I value the comfort level of knowing that she actually likes me as a person (not love, like), doesn't put on airs about what a great lover I am and how huge my dick is (even though it's true, lol) and she just relaxes and enjoys the experiences that we have.  We spend as much time off the clock as on, limited mainly by what time she needs to be at work.  Her body's not perfect, her very few ratings aren't 10's, she tells me not to be so bossy when I get antsy to get things started while she's still flitting around putting towels in the dryer, etc.  She tells me no when she wants, will switch her schedule around to accommodate mine, but makes no attempt at a porn star performance.  She sees very few guys, all regulars, and gets upset when she kicks out one and has to replace him.  She also stretches her menu dramatically for me, and I'm sure she doesn't do that for anyone else.  In some ways it is a girl friend for a couple hours - but you've got to keep it in a box of that few hours.

I don't see just her, see other ladies as well, mostly based on their ratings, reps on the board (and PMs from guys) and have a three hour session with a wildcat booked for Wednesday.  If I survive that, I'll still be very glad to get back to my every Tuesday regular for some very nice sex between two good friends who understand each other and aren't posing.

Long story short (too late), you'll find a provider that you mesh with, you just need to keep looking, and figure out what you really want.

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I already know much of what you said, but even having it repeated is welcome.

I get impatient because: a)I don't have anywhere near unlimited funds to search for the right provider who won't stand me up, fail to perform or try to use me; and b) I don't have anywhere near unlimited time left in my life for such a search

maybe you can PM a few guys near you for recommendations. There have to be guys who have similar tastes to you, and could make such a recommendation. And be clear about what you want/need out of an engagement.

I wish you luck!!

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Since there are no guys near me (this is "the Buckle of the Bible Belt", so no providers here), I have to PM guys in the cities within several hours driving distance to ask for opinions, recommendations, etc.  I've gotten some suggestions, and am researching them. I'd contacted one of the suggested providers, and we'll likely meet up sometime this year.

The guys I PM'ed also spoke very highly of the three well-reviewed providers I've mentioned. I'll repeat what I've said previously: there was absolutely nothing in their many, many reviews to suggest that they would cause the problems for me that they did.

That's what I do.  I check the new reviews and if someone catches my eye, I'll PM one of the reviewers for more info after I let him know what I look for.  Another thing I do is check my favorite providers' reviews.  Any reviewers who rate them similar to me, I assume we both have similar tastes.  So, I'll PM them to see if they have any other recommendations.  Good luck

Sorry dude.  Sounds like you've just had a run of bad luck.  I guess I've been lucky.  I've had a couple clunkers, a few re-schedules but nothing t horrible.  I guess you have to decide if you want to keep trying.  I think you're experience is not the norm.

I'm always striving to offer the BEST possible service.  I sent you an email, I look forward to your response.  I'd like to hear about your negative brothel experiences, as I work in one and love it.  Since we are all independent contractors, just like on the outside, not every lady is into it nor is honest.

 
Looking forward to your response.

 
Madison

It will get better once you build up sufficient references and will also know how to choose.

I would suggest reading providers posts on local and national boards. You can figure out a lot about their personality from their posts. If your area or nearby area have Meet and Greets, try and participate. I did this in the early days of my hobby. I was using an agency and they helped me to get into the meet and greet initially and I started going to them pretty regularly after that. You get to meet and talk to providers and decide who you want to meet.

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(I've only read about 2/3 of the replies so I hope this isn't a repeat.)

Since you're using an alias (no envelope), I have no idea who you've reviewed or where you are.  I am assuming you have VIP, that you are trying this in an area with a medium to large number of opportunities (NYC, Chicago, LA, ...) and not stuck in the boondocks.  

First, did ANY reviewer mention the dog-on-the-bed thing?  You should review and mention that prominently.  (I've seen girls who have dogs but I like dogs so it wasn't an issue.)  

Second, using PM, you can contact recent reviewers to ask if they have anything else to offer about their experience and even mention what you are looking for or to avoid (cigarette odor doesn't always come through in a review).  The most common things I've noticed that do NOT get mentioned in the reviews are major scars.  I go back and read the reviews and no one thought to mention the large abdominal scar (probably Caesarian) or big shoulder scar (teenage knife fight? car accident?) or other major blemishes?  Yeah, I guess we don't always mention that out of politeness or consideration of the lady's feelings.  If the first 6-10 reviewers don't mention it, I don't, either (except in PM).  (In my experience, the scars were never an issue other than the initial surprise and desire to ask What Happened??)

Third, try some shorter notice dates -- a day or two; maybe even same day!  Scan "Recent Reviews" in your area, see who is "hot" (at the top of the recent activity list) and available and go for it.  PM that most recent reviewer if in doubt.

Good luck

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Yes, I'm VIP. I'm within driving range of a couple of large cities, and a very large city is about 5-6 hours away depending upon traffic.  

There was no mention in any of the reviews about the dog at all. The provider told me later in an email that she always  has a sitter for the dog, but that day the sitter wasn't available. I think she may have forgotten about our date, or something, since she was totally unprepared. Bear in mind, again, this provider has nothing but excellent reviews. There was nothing in any of her reviews that would indicate any problems. I PM reviewers about every provider I'm interested in, just to see what the guys have to say. In the case of the provider from this week, the one with the dog, and the one I saw last year, every guy had nothing but great things to say about all of them. The one I saw last year is almost like a legend on the regional forum. Guys talk about her much differently than they do others from that city, and deservedly so.

As for short notice, it's been my experience that the providers who are considered the best in their cities aren't usually available at the last minute. I've tried that with a couple of providers who other guys said were amongst the absolute best, and the ladies said they needed more notice.

In the case of my no-show for Thursday, as I mentioned in my reply to GaGambler earlier, she has a calendar on her website showing what cities she's going to be in on which days. She only has eight to ten days a month where she's available anywhere, and the time depends upon her schedule for her regular job, which is the reason for her travels. (If she was just a touring provider, I doubt she'd be going to places like Davenport Iowa, Oak Brook IL, Mount Pleasant SC or other smallish towns). Three times in the last nine months she was at a city within driving distance of me, and I waited too long to book with her. Whatever time slot she had got taken. That's why I jumped on Thursday so far out.  

This would all be easier if I didn't have to travel to see someone. I can't just drive across town for a last minute available opening.

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