So I've heard different answers from various people on what GFE truly is. They say physical services will include BBBJ (fellatio without a condom), kissing (either deep or light french kissing), and of course intercourse (full service). Emotional services may include: talking, cuddling, and caressing. "Light" or "Safe" GFE means basically the same thing, but with condoms involved in all physical aspects, i.e. nobareback anything. So my question is, do Clients prefer Light GFE, Safe GFE or Full GFE?

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if I want GFE I will go out with my girl friend, or in my case, my SO. What I want is what she can't or won't give me.

Thats def a valid point. And I totally get that. Conversation and longevity go a long way.

I have experienced both, but I prefer bbbj. I had an appointment yesterday where she required I be covered during blowjob. It was my first time with her so not sure if I was regular if I could go bare.
I am about to write my review of her. She was great, an agency lady.

Like so many other terms used in the hobby: up scale, high end, A-one, etc., these are marketing terms, and instead of relying on the term, it is much better to select an escort based on her reviews.

That said, to me GFE is more about the mental/emotional connection that I have with the provider than the menu.

I'm not so naïve to think that this connection is meaningful in the same sense as I would have with an SO, but it is a component of the experience for which I pay, and those with whom I find I have this connection are much more likely to see my business than those who are more stand-offish, despite their sexual talents.

But I know that some clients are 180 degrees the opposite, and then there are plenty who form a continuum between those two poles.

As with most of what we discuss on here:  to each, their own.

The age old question. There are millions of people playing, and we all have a different definition. Much like there are many different religions. You've given a great definition. Your GFE religion is based on sound principles. Given your parameters, I prefer both light GFE, and Full GFE. The light GFE usually comes in the form of a FBSM ++ session. I like those because they're much less expensive, and the action is 100% centered on me. Roughly 25% of my sessions fall into that category. Of course, there wouldn't be TER if there weren't Full On GFE. Interestingly enough, at least for me, the action is evenly balanced. Even though I'm paying the Full On GFE rate, she's getting half the action. I wouldn't have it any other way.  

Nevertheless, even though your definition works well, there are two key elements involved with Full On GFE that never get mentioned when defining it. This is my religion. One, the lady has to show that she genuinely likes me. Beyond the actress, there are a million subtle things she can do to show me. And she doesn't have to do all million during the hour. The truth is, those things always happen naturally. They can't be scripted. Those of us who've had thousands of sessions know the scripts. The second thing ties into the first. It's what I call the intangible. It's always the reason the actress disappears, and you're left with a beautiful lady. Some might call it chemistry, and some connection. To me it can't be defined. I've had wonderful sessions with great chemistry, but the intangible was missing. It doesn't happen often, but sometimes when two people meet, yes, even here on TER, their minds, bodies, and sprits just naturally come together. When that happens, I'll be seeing her a hundred times or more. You know, it's hilarious when it goes the other way. When you walk in the room, and the vibe goes 100% the opposite way. When you touch each other it doesn't feel right.

Real (full) GFE is very specific.  GFE = Girl Friend Experience. The term GFE means that except for BBFS the lady will do anything that a girlfriend would do in bed.   BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY ,CIM, MSOG

The "emotional" aspects of Real GFE are immaterial if the lady does not perform the proper services.

 Everything else (Light GFE, Safe GFE etc) is a bastardization of what  GFE services really are.

I only see ladies that offer Full GFE services.

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She won't tell me to hurry up and Cum.
   She won't look at her  clock  as soon as  I'm done.
   She won't check her messages when I'm taking a piss.
   She won't tell me I'm her favorite, I was truly missed.  
   She won't get  drunk before I show up.
   She won't talk about nonsensical trivia in the bed.
   She won't use a condom when she's giving me Head
   She won't gripe  about her other men.
   She will ask questions I won't answer.

   IMO, A  Hooker GFE should be similar  to a true GFE,  except a Hooker  shouldn't ask  
   questions I won't  answer.
       
     

One of these days, somebody is going to collect the wit and wisdom of mrfisher, publish it and sell it.    

Though as it happens, TER already owns it... gotta read those click through things more carefully...

Which includes BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY ,CIM, MSOG and kissing light and deep french kiss. Doesn't always have to be CIM

Most real girlfriends are not giving BJs at all..... At least not with the enthusiasm of a pro.

Well, if you say so. My ex-girlfriends and my current wife used to be great at blowjobs. Some of us are paying you ladies to give us what we no longer get. It's pointless to hire an escort and get services that are not full GFE.

Oh I agree with you. My comment was more tongue in cheek. Just saying we are actually better than your real girlfriend

Some say it's a list of services. Some say it's an attitude. I don't think it's a list of services. I think it's the attitude with which the services are rendered. If I see GFE in the description of a provider I think hmmm wonder what that means to whoever wrote that description. No matter what anybody says there won't be consensus on what GFE means. There will be those that say I'm way off base on my understanding of GFE. That's fine with me. I'm getting the services I want served with the attitude I want and that's what we are all looking for.

I'm going to read her reviews to see if she offers what I want. BBBJ, LFK, DFK, DATY, Covered FS. (There are other things I like but they are not deal breakers. The things I've listed are.) If those are available I'm interested. If not I'm outta there and on to the next profile. The details of the review tell me about attitude. A provider can act like your girl friend  talking, cuddling, and caressing, etc and still do a covered bj. I do think it would be a stretch saying the session was GFE if the lady won't kiss you more than on the lips but my statement holds that she could do the attitude of a girl friend without kissing. I wouldn't be seeing her however. Anyone that thinks they know exactly what they are going to get simply because the ad or bio says GFE provider is mistaken.

By your definition I'm looking for Full GFE.

Then she's not a GFE  

Oh...and she has to also tell me that my socks don't match.

I think full GFE is a journey.  But it's also a destination, just not a destination that can be reached quickly, cheaply, or easily.  It can't be reached on the first visit.  It takes getting to know each other.  

In the beginning I think any GFE is by definition an act.  Some act well; but we need to know it's an act and should never be fooled. But there have been certain connections, and one in particular, that started drifting down the road to where slowly I couldn't really tell if it's so much an act anymore.  There were small signs that grew to bigger signs to where I now feel pretty confident that there is no more acting than there is an any non-hobby relationship.  

For me at least, I guess the best phase of GFE, what some may call full gfe, is when two parts excitement and one part comfort give way to one part excitement and two parts comfort.  And I guess that is the GFExperience that causes me to spend way more time and money on the hobby than a sane person should lol.

EOM

Everyone is going to define "GFE" differently. Just is what it is. Can the "GFE" really be interpreted by only the actions? A provider that offers the "standard" - DFK, BBBJ, DATY, covered Mish, and CG, maybes doggie, with a lackluster attitude is still considered "GFE". Basically, it isn't much for a gal to provide a "GFE" for $$$. Which is why there are so many imposters and ripoffs. But most guys don't want to know or seek the difference. It has become acceptable as long as the "standard" is met.  

Let me take it deeper. For me, "GFE" is a reaction. My focus is to react to his needs and be what he wants for the moments we are together. Genuine care and concern for the other person, like I am really his GF! How do I greet him? What tone do I talk to him in? How do I interact and read his cues and show him affection? How do I make him feel when he is with me? How can I please him and let him know he is appreciated? What can I do that keeps him thinking of me and keeps him coming back? That to me is the true "GFE".

I guess you can try to bottle and sell any of the above definitions.

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All of the above is fine but utterly useless if you don't perform the services. Attitude and reactions are subjective. The full GFE services are something that can be objectively defined. DFK, BBBJ, CIM, DATY, CFS, and DFK are OBJECTIVE.

I just wanted to add that when I first started I ran into girls who falsely advertised "GFE" services. After hearing don't do this, don't do that and sometimes being told a laundry list of  things she did not allow I quickly realized that the non-gfe girls had the worst attitudes. The Full GFE escorts have the best attitudes.

As long as I don't feel the "mechanical" approach vibe from you. And you provide me with BBBJ, DFK and you "pretend" to be genuinely into me. I would call it GFE.....

And yes, I do enjoy the occasional "cuddle"

Thanks for double talking and proving my point. Are you a native Washingtonian by any chance? LOL!  

Why would non GFE provider have the worst attitude? That is your opinion. Because she was not comfortable doing the actions that you wanted or did she? Hmmm... Objectively, if she performed DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CFS, then by your definition, she is GFE and there should be no complaints. Right?  

If a girl "acted" (aka her attitude) was like she really wanted to be there with you and then gave you DFK, BBBJ, DATY, and CFS, then the subjective and objective have been met. So there is a degree of both needed. Am I right? LOL!  

If you guys got paid for the BFE, I don't think anyone but Mr. Fisher would do very well. LOL!

I think the previous posts have covered the alphabet answers quite well.  But the GFE is the illusion of this is what it would be like if you were my GF.  We wouldn't necessary have to do every thing each time but to me the definition is as I leave & wish you were my GF.

Nuff said...

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and isn't it still better that she isn't your GF, even though you wish she was?

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my definitions are for these services, and some other definitons :  
           
      By me stating I will do a f.s. appt with you I would be meaning I will fuck but no kissing and no daty, I would still do bbj at a f.s. appt. I never do cbj I am so NOT grossed out by dick! I wouldnt dream of doing a cbj at any style appt. It would ruin the fun for me i like givin bjs. I guess if your skeeved out by dicks cbj makes sense, I for one never would do cbj at any style appts or encounters and never have and never will. I just dont have any hang ups or concerns bbj is always on menu at any style appt.

also if you ask me full service is not as personal , to me if I am offering to allow daty and kissing I plain and simply am gonna demand a larger donation. The kissing and the daty TO ME are the real gfe services that set a gfe appt apart from just plain old full service.  

 
the attitude part doesnt need to be spoken or brought up because any gfe provider with half way decent reviews on here is gonna have the brains to put an effort in to make sure to make that connection with the client as a person and to add in the chemistry and the romance, That part is just a given in this business and any gal attempting to be a workin girl that has not mastered thAT ART FORM, WELL LETS JUST SAY SHE WONT PROSPER THATS FOR DAM SURE AND SHE DOESNT GET IT AND MAYBE THATS MORE THE GALS DOIN IT CUZ THEY NEED THIER DRUG MONEY . nO OFFENSE, BUT THERES LADIES DOIN THIS CUZ THEY NEED money for a quick fix or maybe just to pay a bill then thier are ladies doin this that have truly built an empire and run it like a business and a sacred art form.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................Some women are sensual and loving creatures and free spirits by nature as well, and these will proper and excell at the whole gfe experience and get all the "forgot it was service" scores.  

Then you have women and men in this world in this earth we share whom are frigid, terrible lovers, wether for money or in personal lives, have no sense of sexuality or sensuality, maybe they dont even know how to cum?  
 but for a workin girl those would be terrible personality traits as your foundation ,  

 

 
        if I tell you I am offering gfe it simply means now that daty and kissing now are put on the table. I would do bbj at both a full service OR and gfe appts.  

 
   When I mention I can accomadate sensual domme request session, I am telling them yes I will lightly smack you , spank you, may use my vinyl paddle, call you my slave and fuck you with my strap on. You can have me pee on you and fist you as well if desired. I may say things like, "thats all you deserve." ect ect. Fisting would be optional, but I am sensual and allow you to also do my ass at the senusal domme session as well as pussy and kiss and bbj. ....Its not JUST me being dominant you can have all of me at some points in the session as well.  

 
   f.b.s.m. full body sensual massage to me is like a long massage where caressing up n down ass crack is involved it a massage but your being sensual too. Your slowly reaching around his pelvic area to get under him and start grabbing him teasingly for a few moments in beginning massage at different intervals as you massage him, Slowly, rythmically. You never massage some one fast and rough and gruffly. That doesnt feel good, Think slow, rythmic movements.  

 

 
           then pse, when I say I do pse I mean I can take it rough, I can take a good hard pounding and I can also bang you back hard and fast and for long periods with lotsa stamina, along with ampin up the theatrical moans and groans and drama and talkin super dirty , high energy. pse means to me that I am lettin you know its ok to play a little rougher with me i can fuckin take it and i will fuck you hard back too. You dont have to be afraid your gonna break me ! and hell take a viagra or 2 before you come I will fuckin take the abuse baby. lol or maybe I want it? who knows.  

 

I do love my ads on ter because we are actually allowed to post the details of each service, no other ad sites can i do this.  

which makes advertising difficult. I have to direct all kinds of traffic to my ter profile and p411 profiles to see whats on menu.  

 
I mention things such as msog multiple shots on goal , greek, prostate massage and cum in mouth, I dont consider those activities to be part of any definitons or know to the masses as included in any those service titles. I personally dont feel msog or greek is part of the gfe OR pse descriptions .  

 
  I feel to me those are additional perks I offer at every style session and I like that in my ter ads I can mention these specifics, .

 
all the stuff about making him feel special cuddling, Those should go with out saying at every appt for any middle to high class provider. With mediocre to high end reviews and rating,    

That is and always will be part the job that is nessecary , even if its just a massage with bj.  

and even if your just workin as a bartender or waitress. You should make a connection with your customers and be accomadating in every job to succeed not just escorting, its actually sad they even had to specifically mention that,

I am sure you'd have a similar dispersion of review scores as we see here.

Many guys I know can fake liking people just as well, and perhaps better than most women  LOL

BTW...fisher is a freak     He's more of your PSEBFE type...just saying.  I think he also would demand a deposit.

The ones who were non-gfe acted as if they did not want to be there. Sure a degree of both is needed but the "degree" of acting as if they wanted to be there was significantly higher with the full GFE escorts.

Can pretense differ in degree? For that matter (since you use the term "acting") can it differ in kind? Or can it only differ in context? And why should she do anything she doesn't want to? Wouldn't experiencing her true feelings be preferable to experiencing an ejaculation or two or three? Are these questions inappropriate?

look.
We are all a little embarrassed by seeing escorts..
Both sides...
I belive the GFE thing is a way to make it seem less sterile?
We all have feelings whether we reveal them or not


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That reminds me of something my first real GFE provider told me, "No girlfriend is going to give you a blowjob for an hour." She went well over an hour for our first meeting. She also became my friend with who I still keep in touch a year and a half later. I can always count on her for honest and valuable advice. I wish she did not live so far away.  I was in a 23 year marriage that was coming to an end and we were discussing civiie dating, which I was contemplating at the time. She was helping me to manage expectations.

Since then, I met my current favorite (will likely be my ATF, but I do not have enough experience to use that term yet). An hour of oral with her is a minimum start to our times together, and she has also become a dear friend. I since lost interest in civie dating. I can't see what I could gain from it.

For the record, I have not become friends with every provider I have seen. Just the two extraordinary ladies mentioned above.

in my opinion, it is more specifically, "this is the best of what it would be like if you were my GF and the best of me if I was your BF."
 It is a lot easier for both to be their best when time is limited (and paid for).

The provider with whom I feel the best connection doesn't have FS or BBBJ on her menu.  But I've had many wonderful sessions with her.  I know a lot of hobbyists wouldn't think of seeing her because of her menu restrictions. Which is great for me and her other clients--better chance of getting on her calendar.  

You get laid, no your socks knocked off. She gets the money to go shopping, and you don't have to go along. Perfect, just fucking perfect.

And to the ladies, don't drag your man along to the mall, go shopping by yourself or with your girlfriends. If there's one thing I can't hardly bear to see, it's some poor guy sitting in the "I'm a fucking loser chair", you know the one sitting outside of the changing room. It's a miserable sight to see, I haven't sat in that chair in 25 years, even throughout my entire marriage.

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alphabet soup is all included but the attitude that comes with the alphabet soup is what separates true GFE courtesans from the others.  

In conclusion, it takes two to tango.  If the guy is a dick, GFE isn't going to happen.

Gfe Experiences - The specifics, I think, will differ with each encounter and, over time, each companion.  
One starts with a sweet, friendly  greeting. What follows is a short period of catching up with each other, or a few minutes of introductions all around, to set the tone and comfort level for what's may come.  
This is not a butcher shop and you are not perusing the roasts. This, like any other type of date, demands acknowledgement of the 'social contract' that is ALWAYS  implied between a gentleman and a lady. Civility, deference, concern for her wellbeing, and an acknowledgement of the value and worth of each other as human beings.
You must treat your partner with respect and hold dear your time together.  Sensual kissing; fondling; touching; caressing; mutual oral stimulation; comfortable, and safe discovery; and an expansion of one's cerebral stimulations all have their place.  
Treat your Date for the evening as if, as if this lovely woman IS YOUR GIRLFRIEND.
If I were counseling my son, I would suggest that this is the manner, the surest way, to enjoy a SHARED Gf experience

I'm pretty lucky that the provider I'm seeing gives me the Full Girlfriend Experience. BBBJ and BBFSCIP. So those of you against BBFS, eat your hearts out.

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I do recognize that in many instances that is easier said than done, but it's how the good providers distinguish themselves from the rabble.

Mrfisher got it right. IMHO GFE is more of an emotional response. They can do all the thing that equal GFE but if the connection is not there well..... When you realize that you could fall for your favorite hooker because you actually have so much in common then that is GFE. Sharing genuine laughter and similar experiences. Unfortunately in this game you have to be pragmatic enough to realize the 25yr old hottie your banging doesn't want to go out with a man 20yrs her senior. Nor could I hang with her friends and her lifestyle. Aww well, we have a great time in the sack and I always go away feeling refreshed.

I'm sure almost everyman here can act the BF part. Asshole, inconsiderate, only hears blah, blah, blah when you speak, etc. On the flip side a true GFE would probably go like this:

He called and asked for outcall GFE service. So I said no problem. I showed up late and pounded on his door until he let me in. Once inside I refused to have sex with him while, for the next 45min, simultaneously berating him and breaking several items in his house. Then I told him what a loser he was, took his money, and told him I was never coming back. He later called me and thanked me for a true GFE experience and for reminding him why he sees hookers. He then left me a completely false 10/10 review because I told him if he did not I would slash his tires and make a miserable SOB.