yes, I'm tired of the whole 'deposits are standard' now. It wasn't, and never was. This deposit push is just during these recent woked cultural propaganda years.
I continue to read disappointing posts of not being satisfied, but I keep wondering why not book a Pro?
TER has professional, reliable & trustworthy providers. What is the real issue? Budget? Big head over lil? Lmk…
Some guys have limited budgets, some like to be the TOFTT guy, some like taking more risk and yes, some think with the little head over the big head.
a lack of reviews on many "pros". Without reviews, all a client has to go on is provider-curated content; this is bad for both the clients and the providers - there is no way to tell if there is a "match" between client desires and provider boundaries.
I've know this was true for me from the start, but I never encapsulated it so well: "...there is no way to tell if there is a 'match' between client desires and provider boundaries."
And when I was new, trying to discover those boundaries cost me three or four provider-blocks while I learned the ropes. If you're serious in asking, then I'd take this point to heart. Habits learned early on, tend to persist (e.g., that a certain class of indies are prickly and suffer from varying degrees of GPS).
Obviously no one disappointed is going out seeking the unprofessional or scammer providers. And it has little to do with price. You hear stories of guys spending plenty -- even in the 1000-1500 range -- that report all sorts of disappointment. From out right theft to bullshit service or attitude.
The whole problem has always been identifying the good from the bad. That problem is why sights like TER exist. SO suggesting these guys go see "professional, reliable & trustworthy providers" is zero help for them. What it comes across as is you continuing to push that claim about who you are and so makes this whole post of your more of an ad than a serious question or even helpful advice.
has some sort of agenda???? I'm shocked, shocked I say!!!
yes, I'm tired of the whole 'deposits are standard' now. It wasn't, and never was. This deposit push is just during these recent woked cultural propaganda years.
This deposit push is just during these recent woked cultural propaganda years.
I forgot this wasn't the politics board. I should have left it at deposits were never 'standard'.
WTF does "woke"--which no one yet has been able to usefully define--have to do with P4P?! And women are demanding deposits because they're woke? There's a lot of crap floating around this site and this post seems aimed at some sort of BS achievement award.
Unless you're a toxic fool who's been tricked into believing all the right-wing bullshit. We now have a revived P&R Board where diseased idiots like this can go to spread their deluded thoughts.
Wouldn't that be the SPOTY award?
I should have just left it at deposits weren't and shouldn't be thought of as standard. Kept other words shut or for the P&R board, but I don't really want to go there with my time on the TER boards either.
....that end up with a bunch of 5-7 performance scores. Personally, I'd take a next door type girl with good hygiene in relatively decent shape that will rock my world over a playboy bunny or OF starlet that thinks I'm lucky just to be in her presence.
However, when you DO get that knockout looks & bod combined with high performance, hell ya! There's a whole spectrum available to us right here...just have to do your homework to avoid disappointment.
But not this time.
First, even well-reviewed women can flake or just deliver a bad session. I was supposed to see a very well-reviewed lady 2 weeks ago and she completely ghosted me. I saw a lady last year with good reviews who turned out to be a total bust.
Second, no news to anyone here, but not every attractive lady is reviewed here on TER. Some are reviewed on other sites, some are known by word-of-mouth, some are UTR. And yes, some of us are willing to take a flyer even in this day and age.
Third . . . well there is no third. I don't think anyone here sets out to waste their time and money. I think it's safe to say this is not even the right audience for this question; by definition the players here are demonstrably using available resources to increase their likelihood of a successful session. We all set out to have our face deep in a pretty woman's crotch and sometimes you end up at home with your balls a deep shade of blue. Shit happens. Suggesting that there's a "real issue" we haven't been able to figure out is condescending and dismissive.
I'm with Helixir.
My worst experience ever was with a former Miss TER; extremely well reviewed. Paid for deposit. And got supremely screwed.
Who? Is it too late to review her?
same, a current top ten region gave me a horrible session last year, or rather she wasn't ready to do it with stuff on her mind and took it out on me. Bad attitude to me ever since, even on email/phone occasional contact and it was fine between us for years before that. if I compared it to past sessions, it was one of the worst three I ever had, and only one of those three were with not a high rated on ter provider. The other was a long time ago highly rated provider over a decade ago, my first use of a provider ever after seeing "Mathesar's" statistics I thought she would be ok, but she was on the low end stage caught up in drug addiction unfortunately before she left the hobby after years of top twenty region reviews, and ripped me off for the two hours, just gave up on me after 15 min. since I was total newb then.
Yeah, I had a bad experience with a Miss TER from last year.
Booked in advance at a specific location then she changed locations at the last minute and I didn't find out until the night before. She lied and told me she'd be at the designated location as promised. The next morning I reached out to her to get the specific hotel info only to find out she was still had the same hotel at the location that didn't work for me and that was not booked. I never got to meet her.
Send the assistant a polite email asking what was the reason for the runaround and didn't even get the courtesy of a reply. Totally unacceptable.
Hello, Bia! I was a little confused by your use of the word Pro ( I’m assuming you use that as Professional).
Can we get accurate with that word, please?
Pro can mean someone who concentrates solely on what they do for a living. For example, someone who does sex work as a part time side hustle, while holding down a routine 9-5 type job, is not a pro sex worker. They could be a talented amateur or whatnot, could be mind scrambling in the sack, but technically speaking, not a pro. Maybe a part timer?
Pro can be defined most properly as the above, PLUS, in a job which requires some sort of continuing education to stay current. Perhaps having licensure to be allowed to practice their profession, also extended initial specialized training that the general public does not have.
So, not to be demeaning, but there are doubtless some very talented providers out there, who you may feel superior to. Because you consider yourself a pro. Remember, charging very large fees ( sorry, donations) does not distinguish. More than a few guys here have been burned by thinking that expensive has to be best. Not true, not always.
To be sure, when you opened this can of worms, by implying that those who cannot afford to pay more are to blame for choosing brand “X”, I disagree.
There's definitely an insinuation in the question that those of us not willing to pay 1500 a session are somehow ignorant or at least misguided. That's really condescending.
would never pay $1500 for a session, or just not with her? Lol
I agree that we disagree. Just because a provider is not full time how can she not be a pro? Are you aware of what she does during her everyday lifestyle? Many providers have boyfriends they screw daily. Some are married. I understand everyone has a budget. I see because I posted the thread everyone is attacking my tribute on my profile $1500. I offer other services & rates on my site, but this is a vanilla board. Before I created my tribe my rates reflected my lifestyle & I was extremely busy. Unfortunately, as a single Mom my time is very limited, so my tribute is not for everyone. Everyone’s life circumstances are different.
I have seen professionals on these boards who are very reasonable when it comes to rates $250-400 for the hour. Why not pick a professional within your budget instead of getting scammed by questionable people? I am just baffled at all the men posting Robs, rip-off’s & scammers. The gents who book me value my opinion. I don’t have to work in this industry to be a professional after decades in the game. I don’t understand why the members here are not utilizing TER to read the reviews to make an executive decision. If they did their due diligence it would be very difficult to get taken advantage of by a provider. PRO=Professional
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I think pro means you get paid. If you get paid to golf you are a professional, if you don't you just golf. But getting paid for a job doesn't mean you are necessarily good at it. So you are right, Pro, needs some defining. I used to hate that back when that other site was around they would say non pro. Like that meant those gals were some how better than someone who had a website. Not better, but , I guess those guys could fool themselves into thinking it was not paying for it , even tho they still gave money . Or that having a website meant you were guna be businesslike, or follow a script. I have always had a website and rates but I have always been " like a cool chick u met at the bar" that was from an old review. So pro to me means I take what I do seriously and strive to be respected and show respect in how I go about doing my bizness. 😜
Not ALL TER providers are a guarantee of a smooth experience.
I had a big issue with one of the ladies named Miss TER last year - unacceptable behavior on her part.
For many, budget is an issue and actually some of my greatest experiences have been with the most inexpensive providers. My feeling is why spend $700 (which I certainly cannot do regularly) when I can have so much fun at 300 or 400?
Unfortunately, it’s not feasible for me to be at that rate because of my responsibilities & I have a business I run not related to this hobby life.
There are many great providers who have rates within one’s budget.
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I wasn't suggesting that you should adjust your rates - that would be entirely your decision based upon what you consider to be important factors. Each individual lady needs to decide what works best for them - no one else is in a position to make that judgment.
In your case, I was willing to go way over my norm (which would have involved some sacrifices) in order to see a lady who, in many ways, I consider to be exceptional. Plus, it wasn't as if it would be a regular occurrence based on your lack of travel and the distance between our locations.
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been selected for Ms. TER are gracious, humble and realize it's NOT like being elected to Congress. Others become full of themselves, talk down to mongers and other providers, and go from zero to bitch in 4.2 seconds. Until there are some post-Ms. TER reviews, you're usually not going to know which it is.
Is she a pro because she charges more, or has a website, or reviews?
I tried "PRO" and more times than not, they are just an expensive disappointment!
Self proclaimed "PRO" goesnt automatic translate into ATF!
I now stick to Kgirls or the ones I've seen before that rock my world.