There was a recent case and resulting Mary Mitchell column about an escort pressing charges for rape.  
Mary Mitchell's stance is that prostitutes cannot be raped; it is merely theft of services.   It would seem that some agree with that view, while others vehemently disagree.    

when you force someone to do something against their will..it is rape..

At gun point which is most likely a felony at least. So because she "consented" under duress, to letting him have sex with her. Not a lawyer, however not sure what the legal term might be for forcing sex at gunpoint even though she relented because of the gun pointed at her head.

When one party says no, anything that has happened stops and parties are to part ways.

The only way it's not is if that scenario was discussed and agreed  to in advance by the provider.   The way you've written the scenario I think that possibility is excluded.

If you put a gun to any girl's head and force her to suck cock you will be charged with rape. The fact you left money for her time won't mitigate the charges.

Some states don't even recognize the term "rape." And instead, they use the word "sexual assault."  

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It's a no brainer.   And just because some asshole columnist shits out a manifesto declaring that raping a prostitute is simply theft of services, that doesn't make it true (until Ju$tice $calia says otherwise).

I think what she's trying to say (if im not wrong), is that as soon as the authorities or, the hospital personnel who perform the rape kit on you; (if) they find out you are an escort, they stop treating you like a rape victim... that's a fact.

I don't mean to sound flippant as I know this was asked as a serous question.  However would anybody say this is not rape?

"Jack" should be looking at a very long prison sentence in a fair world, but with a lack of physical evidence of forced intercourse, what Molly does for a living, and no corroborating witnesses who witnessed the gun, sans a confession, a conviction would be a long shot.  

The woman did not want to engage in sex with the man. The man threatened her with violence unless she did. What is difficult about this? Circumstances have NO BEARING. Rape.

Sorry for not being more clear: I was simply asking for personal opinions.    
 
In other words, do YOU consider Molly to be the victim of rape?  
 
Not a legal definition, what any criminal charges might be, whether or not a conviction would be likely, or anything along those lines.  Just your personal opinion.  
 
 
In a thread regarding the actual assault I referenced, the opinion was expressed that had the woman in question been paid, it would not have been rape.   That she only reported the rape BECAUSE she was not paid.    
 
I don't know the young woman who was assaulted but I applaud her (and any victim of sexual assault) for being brave enough to go to the police.  It is difficult for any victim to do this.  
And I would hope that even if he had produced the cash to pay her after forcing her at gunpoint, that she still would have called 911.  Because, as those responding to my post have stated, it is still rape.  

If a guy shoots you after mugging you are you going to harp over the mugging or the attempted murder?

She probably wants to distract people by having an opinion on prostitutes because she has her own immoralities in her life. Anyone who thinks it's ok to "rape" a prostitute, but only be charged for theft is out of their damn mind. That or she is a typical timid human being who only says what the majority will agree with and follow. (Easy way to look and sound smart and successful, by the way, in case anyone was wondering.)

to sex for pay and then after the dirty deed he withheld payment, I think he might have the better argument that there was no rape.

I've had clients walk out without paying.  It's happened to me twice, and both were clients I'd met multiple times prior to that.

At the moment a woman, any woman, under any circumstance, asys,"no", it becomes rape.

Even if she willingly let him put it in, and mid fuck changes her mind. If he doesn't pull out it is then rape. In your scenario he used force, she said no, it is rape in the purist form.

I've literally had people say in the same conversation, "It's dangerous!" Then, "but since you're doing it, If I were you, I'd just do anyone who asks and make a ton of money and get out."

I have. I rather have been just assaulted with a gun. The assault with a weapon is part of the rape, but the rape is the worse part unless they kill her or cripple her for life. Rape is so vile and horrid it may trump those. It robs you of all dignity. To this day it affects me. Rape is one of the worse things a person can do to another.

... remember, even if there was the faintest glimmer that it could be theft of services, the only services that would be recognized under the law are time and companionship.  This is rape and actually aggravated, lock him up and throw away the key, rape in jurisdictions that recognize the use of a weapon to forcibly induce acquiescence.

Nope, not consent... not even remotely. It's coerced acquiescence. Ain't no volitional agreement happening here no how no way.  This is actually about as bad as it gets in terms of rape. Not sure about all jurisdictions but hard to imagine one that doesn't escalate the severity with a weapon is used.  This is life damaging and hopefully no one who has ever dealt with this should ever feel they consented to anything.  

...I know for a fact that in some (but sadly not all) jurisdictions the rape of a sex worker is taken very seriously.

does not mean they have given blanket permission.  Intimate partners can be raped...  wives, GFs, maybe less well known but men can be also.  So can prostitutes.  It is never ok & consenting under threat of violence in order to save the victims life or serious bodily harm...  does not make it go away.  

Anytimes a female does not give consent or has to give consent under force/threat that is basis for rape. Plain and simple.

Rape is rarely leads to arrest. Even less often does it go to trial. And rarely does the trail lead to conviction. Out of 100 rapes it is estimated only 2 rapes will spend a day in jail. In my state only 20% of rape kits are even processed. Sorry your just wrong. Odds are they wouldn't even look at the evedence.  

My point was just because the MF let's you go does not mean it was not rape or kidnapping.

I've been following this board for a long time and I've seen you post about your rape many, many times.  So my question is, does it help you get over it to keep posting about it?  It looks like the answer is no.  So why keep doing it?  Why not look for another way to get over it?
Jest sayin.

Assault with a deadly weapon is enough to put the person away for a very long time.

think I can go to bed safe and relieved with this knowledge

You are quoting broad statistics in terms of bringing a case to a prosecutor.  Here thought I was talking about the evaluation of the evidence in this particular instance. You can have your opinion and I can have mine.  I'm fine with disagreeing, and if your evaluation of the evidence differs from mine, well, that's what makes life interesting - but with the evidence I just described, if I were a lawyer I'd be happy to take this to trial, though in your jurisdiction it may never get to the prosecutor, or if it did they may dismiss it for fear of an acquittal - I get that.  The statistics you quote may have some validity in a broad sense, but while the odds are 'they' wouldn't even look at the evidence, and while in yours 'they' wouldn't, from what I know about other jurisdictions there are many that would.  I'm truly sorry fr what happened to you and that yours does not, but for reasons I won't go into i do know there are many places with prosecutors not afraid to take these cases on and where they work with LE, victim's advocates, and the victims to build a case.  It's a shame the results are so uneven across the country, I don't dispute that.  

and could not because it contained personal information, a google search will show up instances of successful prosecutions of men convicted of raping escorts, including rapes with weapons.  And such successful prosecutions do happen with some regularity.  I am not disputing the statistics you quote, and as I said, I agree the results are uneven at best, but there are several jurisdictions where prosecutors would go after someone like this and where juries will convict.

Here is a sad fact about one and six women will be raped, and about one in thirty three men will. That is millions of people. Most will remain silent and never report it. Many will never seek help and it is something you need help to heel properly from. Some will never speak of it. And that silence comes at a price.

But sadly it seems to be the exception instead of the rule. Sadly many have the same attitude of the article sited by the OP you can't rape a prostitute, it's just theft of service. In any case I would hope I would be very wrong. I don't want to ever be right about cops and prosecutors not doing their jobs when it comes to rape.

I have not been on this board for very long so this is the first time I've seen him post about it.  I am impressed by his bravery because it is tough to talk about for many, many victims.    

how can it not be

This world is often truly f'd up

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/us/01brfs-judge.html?_r=1&

there are many other cities (fairly large and mid-sized) that have made the decision to prosecute the scum that preys on sex workers.

Unfortunately, most rapes of sex workers will not be reported, and here in Seattle - the prosecuting attorneys office seems to not care.

I'm not meaning to sound mean but what the fuck-a-ty fuck is that about? There are no "opinions" to that. There is only one answer. Lawd, Gawd and all that jazz. This place has not changed. Wow. I mean you could have made it a little bit more confusing or unclear.......possibly?! What am I missing here? NOTHING!

Because I was responding directly to the original post with a female being used as example.

If the money was kept, then the guy has a few options and none of those options equals forcing the lady to have sex with him OR its RAPE. He can either try to get his money back if it's still visible, write a review about the lady concerning her keeping the money, take his loss and never see the lady again or some mixture of those. If the lady is saying NO, no matter what and she is forced by any measure, then it is rape. F an opinion on this. I'm sorry. There should have been only one mind needed for that answer, yours on this subject. Maybe you just wanted to see if some fool(s) would say it's not I suppose. Haven't read through the responses but goodness gracious. I wouldn't even want for someone to respond NO to these scenarios. I would want to reach through the Internet and rape their necks. Mercy me. I'm mad right now. No means No, no matter what. No man worth his while in anything, no matter what, would do that to a woman and if so, it's ALWAYS rape. As a poster said, even a wife can be raped. Amen. No means No. With that said, so can a man. Heard of ruffies. Shoot, I also think if a woman is drunk and incoherent, it's fg rape. Now let's talk about that. Because that goes on everyday in so many places around this globe. Disgusting to ME.