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souls_harbor 3052 reads
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1 / 33

If they don't allow MSOG you really aren't paying for their time.

Jensen36363 58 Reviews 617 reads
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2 / 33

If you get to say and they otherwise entertain you you're getting their time and for those the clearly saying the money is for the time and not sex then MSOG at the demand of the client might be seen as them being paid for sex rather than time....

Seem like a rather moot point though. ;-)

VOO-doo 611 reads
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3 / 33

She just offers very limited services, for 1 hour (or whatever) of her "time."  

If you book 1 hour, and come in the first 5 minutes... then I'm sure she'd be happy to spend her "time" chatting with you, massaging you, or kicking you out early (depending upon her fee/volume).

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RobbinYoung See my TER Reviews 679 reads
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4 / 33

Posted By: souls_harbor
If they don't allow MSOG you really aren't paying for their time.
An "All-You-Can-Eat Buffet, and...I'm ALWAYS hungry! ;)

John_Laroche 375 reads
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5 / 33
mojojo 1 Reviews 616 reads
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6 / 33

Is it really gfe if she doesn’t kiss?

Is it really gfe if she does a cbj?

Is she really a ten, or was that the best sex in your life, and your head is still spinning?

Are those pics current, or are they fifteen years old?

Is that really her in the pics, or an Asian porn star?

If we go over, does she really like me?

If she won’t return my intro email, did I do something wrong?

If she gets me a gift, does that mean she wants to marry me?

If she has all tens, should I not trust any of those reviewers?

If we go otc four hours with lunch, will she do that next time?

Does grandfathering really mean I’m at the bottom of the list?

Were those ten orgasms fake?  

The randomness goes on and on. Bottom line? Your mileage WILL vary with each and every lady, each and every session. It’s luck of the draw. Luck of the day. Luck of the moment.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 477 reads
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7 / 33

she opens the door, to when she kicks your ass out.  Read the disclaimers in the ads and on the websites.  You are paying for time, not sex.  If you get sex its because she likes you, and you're both consenting adults.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 442 reads
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8 / 33
souls_harbor 424 reads
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9 / 33

Actually that is just a legal fiction ... and in fact, not really recognized as a legitimate legal fiction in the courts.

The courts require a less straightforward quid pro quo before they will consider it a legal "mistress" relationship

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 403 reads
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10 / 33

When it comes to "legal" I don't think you know what you're talking about.  I'm giving you the opportunity to put up or shut up. Doesn't get any fairer than that. I'm guessing I'm going to get crickets from you.

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GaGambler 476 reads
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11 / 33

but I agree with you completely, except it's a random "thought" not "thoughts.

I thought I would toss that in so we could disagree on "something" here. lol

As for paying for "time" that's BULLSHIT and any adult here should realize this. I don't pay for "time and companionship" Quite frankly ladies if I wanted time and companionship from a good looking lady I could simply give my local bartender a fifty dollar tip and she'd spend the entire hour doing nothing but pouring my drinks and keeping me "company" and I most certainly would not be paying women a rate at least as high as what I pay an attorney, simply for their "time"  

What I, and every other swinging dick (and pussy, sorry lopaw) here pays for is "NSA sex" we pay partly for the sex and partly for the NSA nature of the sex, but it's the sex we pay for, not the time. If some of you want to delude yourselves into thinking this is about the "time" spent, but I wouldn't advise trying to convince a cop, a judge or me that you are simply charging for your time and I was so irresistible that your clothes just came flying off for me. lol

If we were indeed paying strictly for the time, and that time was to be spent however the paying client wanted to spend said time, terms like MSOG would be completely unnecessary.  

Now that I have agreed with you, you are more than welcome to change your position on the issue. lol

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 444 reads
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12 / 33

all of the hooker-lawyers are telling their hooker-clients to put this line up on their websites, so until I see some credible evidence that the courts are not taking it seriously, as the OP seems to think, I'm going to believe it works for hookers whether its BS or not.  

The other one I see a lot that I like is where they say, "By contacting me you are representing that you are NOT connected to any law enforcement agency."  Unfortunately, this may knock out the guy who just happens to be LE in his day job, and is just looking to pay for pussy like the rest of us.

souls_harbor 341 reads
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13 / 33

Chocolate covered crickets!

UNITED STATES of America v. Lynnette HARRIS and Leigh Ann Conley 942 F.2d 1125
Commonwealth v. Stephanie Ann Danko, 421 A.2d 1165, 281 Pa.Super. 97 (1980)
Cherry v. Koch, 129 Misc. 2d 346, 491 N.Y.S.2d 934 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. 1985)
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
When it comes to "legal" I don't think you know what you're talking about.  I'm giving you the opportunity to put up or shut up. Doesn't get any fairer than that. I'm guessing I'm going to get crickets from you.  

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souls_harbor 382 reads
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14 / 33

If you walked into an LE sting with $400 cash in your pocket and said "I was just going to pay her for her time." Do you think they'd say, "Oh, okay, we'll let you go. Have a nice day."

eastside70 47 Reviews 430 reads
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15 / 33

agree with her kicking you out early since the guy/gal had paid for a certain amount of her time that she already has set aside. If the client wants to leave early, then that's on them and she gets some bonus free time.

darmody 22 Reviews 445 reads
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16 / 33

Same as you say you're going to believe putting "compensation is for my time and companionship only" on a website means diddly-squat. Why? Maybe we're dreamers and silly hearts. Maybe we're fools. Maybe we're like every other internet troll.

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darmody 22 Reviews 296 reads
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17 / 33

Don't throw around demands for citations of case law. I can't quote the criminal code, but that doesn't mean I don't know premeditated murder is illegal in my jurisdiction.

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darmody 22 Reviews 409 reads
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coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 251 reads
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souls_harbor 441 reads
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21 / 33

I'll disagree a bit on one point, all this misdirection does make it a bit tougher for LE to ensure a conviction.   If money is never mentioned or checked while the LE is present then it is more difficult (but not impossible) to show that she wasn't just a slutty gal blowing everyone who walked in the door.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 355 reads
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22 / 33

Then you shouldn't be hobbying in the first place if all you can afford is cheap motel sex with BP and CL girls, or streetwalkers.  You should buy your kids new shoes with that money and jack yourself off if your only option is such risky scenarios.

wholewheelofchz 6 Reviews 521 reads
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23 / 33

Namely, from "Lion Butt."

I'd say these authorities absolutely support the position asserted. So where's the curmudgeon's concurrence?

Jensen36363 58 Reviews 427 reads
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24 / 33

Might be debatable.

Posted By: John_Laroche
It's like very ironic.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 367 reads
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25 / 33
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 415 reads
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26 / 33

I didn't have to look up the first one . . . . its a famous tax case regarding earned income versus gifts.  The hooker had her conviction for failing to file a tax return overturned by the appellate court.

The other two are old cases that predate internet provider websites and use of the internet to get customers.  In both cases, they involve IN-PERSON solicitation, as in massage parlor sex. The cop's already there naked and asked what else is available and the dumb shit provider starts running down the menu.  I think our present-day providers are a little more sophisticated.  These don't support your hypothesis that disclaimers in internet ads have been rejected by the courts.  Nice try.

souls_harbor 480 reads
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27 / 33

The website disclaimer is completely useless.  You as much proved it with your example.  Once LE is in the room if money is mentioned, look out.   It doesn't matter if she had a stack of previous disclaimers, she is going to get busted for the here an now.  

Anyhow, the whole point of this, even in the mistress case, is that yes we are paying for sex (probably true in many marriages as well.)  But the law allows marriages and mistresses because prosecution would require reading peoples minds to see if their intentions were pure.

Remember, you only have to convince a jury that she was acting as a prostituted instead of a mistress.   If one takes a dim view of humanity, then one might worry a bit more about whether such disclaimers were as bullet proof to jurors as you seem to assert

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 348 reads
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28 / 33

You're still arguing your 1980 pre-Internet case law you looked up. My post was about the disclaimer Hooker-attorneys are telling thief hooker-clients to put in their ads. You said the courts are disregarding it. I said prove it, and you provide tax and massage parlor cases. The more you keep arguing, the more you look like an uninformed hack. If you have a case that shows a court threw out a printed disclaimer, even ONE, then post it. If not, you should STFU about stuff you don't know ANYTHING about. Just my opinion. Others may disagree who enjoy watching guys like you make foolish arguments here.  It's cheap entertainment for the mob. Lol

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souls_harbor 331 reads
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29 / 33
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 499 reads
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30 / 33

I wrote?  Of course, we're laughing at you and not with you.

wholewheelofchz 6 Reviews 342 reads
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31 / 33

Seems to me you're hung up on what YOU said. No surprise. But my post was to say that the case law supported HIS assertion.

Being what? Well if you read his post, it contains two sentences, each is an assertion. The first assertion responds to what you said. And it's true -- none of his case law refers to the disclaimer issue.

His SECOND assertion, is what I was referring to, and it is sufficiently supported by the case law. You disagree?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 353 reads
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32 / 33

Responded to MY post. I thought you knew that. His SECOND assertion doesn't respond to me and is out in left field somewhere. Nice attempt at a save, though. Way to think on your feet. Too bad it doesn't make you look any smarter in your previous post.  

There's only one guy here that ever called me Lion-butt and always did it from an alias. Are you using your real handle now?

wholewheelofchz 6 Reviews 239 reads
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33 / 33

I have never posted under an alias and I never will. Everything I say, I am willing to be held to account on.  

But I admit I appreciate that guy's nickname for you. Lion-Butt. Just has a lovely ring to it, doesn't it??

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