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TheVoiceOfReason 3051 reads
posted
1 / 20

Hypothetical Scenario - you do your diligence and research.  The lady is advertising as GFE and PSE (let's assume post COVID advertising - NOT old ads).  She has a handful of TER reviews (all pre COVID).  A few of those reviews say that the reviewer was greeted at the door with a LFK that turned into a DFK or a straight up DFK.  You book with confidence.

You show up freshly showered and with minty fresh breath.  You enter the room, she greets you with a hug, and you try to kiss her.  She turns her face and says that she doesn't kiss.  You haven't given her the donation yet.  What do you do?  What would be inappropriate?  Would you turn around and leave?  Would you say something to her?  What would you say?  Would you just soldier on?  Would it depend on the donation amount (350 or less you soldier on, 400 or more you turn around and leave)?  

Ladies - would it be appropriate for the guy to turn around and leave w/o paying?  

Ohm 160 reads
posted
2 / 20

Given the situation we're in, many providers are avoiding kissing, this should be expected behavior (even though there would still be a high probability of contracting COVID-19 just by coming into contact with someone who's contagious) .

I don't think one should knock a provider if she refuses to kiss during these times, irrespective of what's included in her ads. Given the situation, we should probably update our definition of what GFE means, until this all blows over.

inicky46 61 Reviews 155 reads
posted
3 / 20

until she's on her knees in front of you, whip out your wang and stuff it in her mouth.
Problem solved.

DaveMogal 74 Reviews 148 reads
posted
4 / 20

Some of the ads say mask required, gloves, Lysol mist spray. It is good to see if that is disclosed so one can choose see or not the see these providers.  

I have to wonder if they require a mask does it mean that they have covid-19.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 220 reads
posted
5 / 20

"showing up freshly showered" to "showering while you are there."  (Frankly, I always enjoy a co-ed shower.  Its the best icebreaker there is.)  They don't know where you have been or what contact your skin has had with other surfaces between the time you left your own shower and showed up at their door.  Same with mouthwash.  They will give you something THEY are comfortable with using that kills germs.  Don't be a cheapie.  Take the shower there.  Its ten minutes of the hour, and you will have a much better experience when she is totally comfortable that you are clean from head to toe because she helped you wash everything.  

 
For me, the ONLY appropriate time to handle this is to inquire when booking "if there are any changes to her profile menu because of Covid-19?"   Only if she says no and its a lie are any of your other suggestions a good idea.  These days, I always tell them I would like us both to shower when I get there so we can be completely clean and relaxed about any Covid worries.  In one of my recent posts I said when I arrived there was no touching at all, until I had mouthwash and a co-ed shower where she washed me thoroughly with soap.  Then it was game on with her regular menu.  Your mistake was to "book with confidence" based on an old profile without asking the girl about it during the booking process.  Its a mistake I don't think you will repeat, so all should be well going forward.  

-- Modified on 5/11/2020 4:33:24 AM

GaGambler 181 reads
posted
6 / 20

She is going to get naked and roll around with a guy for an hour or more, touching him, breathing all over each other and more, yet you think it makes sense that she draws the line at KISSING??? Give me a fucking break.  

 

I'll fucking say it even if no one else will, If I booked a session with a GFE provider and she informed me at the door that she "doesn't kiss" if I still had my money in my pocket, that's EXACTLY where it would stay, I would leave and I wouldn't leave her a fucking cent. Now OTOH, if she were advertising as a non GFE provider, or if her reviews stated that kissing were off the table then the misunderstanding would be on me, and I would have to think long and hard about going through with the session, most likely I would still leave as I have ZERO interest in non GFE sessions, but I might leave her some money due to mutual culpability for the misunderstanding.  

 
Come on folks, does ANYONE really believe that you can fuck someone, with or without kissing, and not put yourself in serious risk of catching anything they might be infected with, whether it be COVID, the regular flu or even a common cold? I know some people here are just plain fucking stupid, but come on PLEASE no one can be this fucking dumb, can they? If a woman is that afraid of getting sick, what the fuck is she doing rolling around naked with a bunch of strange men in  the first place? If she thinks that simply by not kissing them it is going to save her, she is even dumber than you are.

100ProofOfLV See Agency Profile 134 reads
posted
7 / 20

Before booking her make sure that she is operating in pre COVID mode. If not, do not book her. It's certainly her right not to be and it's certainly right for you to not see her if that is your choice.

chmod4755 9 Reviews 175 reads
posted
8 / 20

Fuckin A skippy. Ditto for CBJ. Only difference is I throw a 20 at her as I’m leaving because I’m kinda a softy like that.

gentleguy1020 38 Reviews 198 reads
posted
10 / 20
GaGambler 154 reads
posted
11 / 20

The woman obviously knows what her TER reviews say, she has ads (according to the OP) that are POST COVID that advertise GFE/PSE, any reasonable monger would expect to receive a GFE/PSE session which DEFINITELY includes kissing.  

 
In this case an "old profile" could be a two month old review, but with current ads claiming GFE/PSE. I would be pissed and I would leave without leaving a penny. I do NOT ask providers "what's on the menu?" when they have multiple and recent reviews, nor do most other mongers. IMO in this scenario the provider intentionally tried to deceive the client and thought to herself "once he's here, he'll still go through with the session" Allowing providers to get away with this kind of behavior only encourages more of the same.

 
For the record, in the scenario that the OP described, he only would have been out any money "IF" he went through with the session, so it's more of a mistake that SHE should learn from, not him. As long as he brought his balls with him and decided NOT to reward bad behavior.

Drumguy25 23 Reviews 175 reads
posted
12 / 20

was post COVID 19, and a very similar situation. I also read her current reviews which stated lfk,dfk, but was shunned at any attempt towards kissing. I understand the apprehension, but you are inside any space that would be considered safe, and virus transfer would almost certainly occur...even without kissing. This isn't mono!
Personally...i would just prefer providers or agencies be upfront about any restrictions pre booking, but we all know that's not going to happen....except for a very few.
To answer the question of the OP... I soldiered on, but it was relatively inexpensive, I was there already, and had driven over an hour for the appointment.  
I haven't reviewed the appointment because I don't feel it completely fair to do so, given the pandemic. And her score would drop given that by TER rules, certain services have to be delivered to earn those ratings, and i have a problem faulting a provider within these extenuating circumstances...
Otoh...if you're that scared of it....maybe you shouldn't be trying to work in the current climate....Idk.
Long-winded response due to having too much time on my hands, but that last appointment cemented my decision not to book any others until this mess has subsided, and life returns to some semblance of normal...if it ever does.

herbtcat 6 Reviews 149 reads
posted
13 / 20

GaGa's comments on the OP's situation aside, I also am comfortable with the idea of a (ideally co-ed) shower when I arrive. It's a reasonable concession to COVID-19 risks and if it makes her feel comfortable with me, I don't mind at all. Not that a shower & blue toast will ever really be effective in preventing or seriously reducing the risk of giving or getting the virus. But if I booked, then I've already decided that I'll take that risk, and she has as well.  
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Admittedly, my only non-Sugar Baby BCD's during the pandemic have been with K-Girls. So an arrival time shower is SOP anyway. But the concept applies to any session and partner.  
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As to the OP's situation, if there was no contemporary info available in the form of reviews, ads, or Q&A during the booking process, then it's on the OP to ASK if anything has changed in service before he commits to the booking. Having said that, I'd still bail WITH my cash if I arrived and didn't get the expected service I booked, including DFK (or at least LFK) at the door. Once you are on the scene, have the balls to refuse service that is less than expected and promised. You wouldn't pay for a $60 Rib Eye at Morton's if they served you a gas station reheated cheeseburger wrapped in paper.   The only concession to think about, at least with K-Girls, is the risk of burning my relationship with the booker. Some can be a bit asshole-ish about last second cancellations. But I'd text them as I left to explain, and MIGHT think about leaving $40-ish with the provider and telling the booker what I did if I thought it was a necessary cost of doing business with that booker.  
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Life is good.
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The Cat

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 129 reads
posted
14 / 20

its not a good idea just to CONFIRM with her when booking that everything in her current ad is CORRECT.  It sounds like you would prefer to go with no additional info, find out when you get there, and then be pissed off.  On the other hand, I would rather confirm the menu when booking and if there are additional safety protocols not disclosed on the website that takes certain activities OFF her menu, then I simply don't go, thereby not wasting my time and ending up pissed.  My time is too valuable to waste it, so the two or three minutes it takes in an email or phone call to confirm everything is all the time investment I want to have before I get in my car and travel to her.  

 
I don't ask what's on the menu either, but its different right now.  I would simply ask her if her advertisement for GFE/PSE accurately reflects what is available if I go ahead and book a session.  I don't see why that would be "WRONG, WRONG, WRONG," to use your characterization.    

CalliaAlexandra See my TER Reviews 152 reads
posted
15 / 20

If she is uncomfortable with kissing due to COVID, she should not work unless she is in a hazmat suit. There are absolutely no guarantees when you are with someone (kissing or not) in close quarters that you cannot get it. If she is stupid enough to believe this somehow helps her avoid getting it, she should at the very least say so in her ad or via email.  

I am not one to say this easily but If I were you, I would leave. I am a huge kisser and I'd be disappointed without it.  

And there is a chance if you had asked via email or however you contacted her about her services she probably would not have even responded due to discretion.  

If you chose to see her be sure to update her profile on here and write about the kissing in the review. THIS is exactly the type of stuff that should be in reviews. You potentially could have even had a nice enough time and wrote that in the review too, it doesn't have to be nasty just to the point.

I am seeing people and I have no new barriers in place. I expect a shower and listerine rinse upon arrival and always have expected that to be done.

BriannaM See my TER Reviews 166 reads
posted
16 / 20

Full disclosure and transparency needs to be practiced, especially these days. You can’t blame the provider for taking precautions but you can blame her for not living up to her norms without disclosing it before you made the effort to arrive with minty fresh breath.

GaGambler 176 reads
posted
17 / 20

I have also seen around a dozen or so different providers since this whole COVID crisis started a while back and nothing like this has happened to me yet. I find the girls willing to work are still giving  100% while the girls who are scared aren't working at all.

 
I disagree about writing that review because you "don't think it's fair" I am sure you don't expect this crisis to simply disappear in the next couple of weeks, and if she is working, but not telling prospective clients about her new rules, others are going to be just as disappointed as you. If she is NOT going to provide the services, then by rights her scores should drop, that's the whole purpose of reviews, right?

useyrhead 4 Reviews 173 reads
posted
18 / 20

I know of one org with predominantly Chinese providers.  I am told that if you want to see them they will be wearing masks and apparently expect you to do the same. Though I’m also told they still deliver BBBJ.  

I fully support their right to have rules that help them feel safe.

But I’m going to pass on all Masked Singer services.

MasterZen 34 Reviews 156 reads
posted
19 / 20

and something similar happened. She advertised GFE/PSE and had reviews (albeit pre TER blackout) that confirmed yes, excellent DFKissing, stellar scores.

We met, had drinks, seemed to get along well but... back at the room I went for a kiss and met clenched teeth. Huh?

I soldiered on, meeting the damned clenched teeth at every turn. Other than that - I liked her, the session was pretty good, but no kissing is a pretty big damn deal. Maybe she had joined the French Resistance?

I made every excuse in the book and blamed it on me perhaps having bad breath, but no - just no.  

With kissing, I'd rebook every time I was in town. Without... no repeats.

I shrugged it off then, but probably should have asked WTF was the deal?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 132 reads
posted
20 / 20

session begins and ends with good DFK.  Without that, there is absolutely no possibility of me seeing her again.

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