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Providers. If the internet did not exist

Hirogen 1425 reads

posted 15 years ago

What do you think you would be doing?
Street walking, bar/club hooking, or a legit career/job?

I purposely omitted the theory that some of you would find a wealthy man to support you.

inicky4615 years ago386 reads

Your question pre-supposes there were no hookers before the Internet...

...and being "of a certain age" I can assure you there were a ton of very hot gals in NY before anyone imagined this on-line world. So I'd say, if a gal wants to provide she'll do it, Internet or not.l

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Hirogen15 years ago410 reads

No. It does not. There are a lot of providers who

started out in the business with or after the internet, not before it.
Naturally there will be old timers here that started before then.

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marikod15 years ago389 reads

I think he is talking about TER providers, or those

ladies who use the internet exclusively to conduct their business.

While I predict another train wreck, it's another legitimate question infected by his second and possibly third sentence.

All he really needed to say was: "if the internet is shut down tomorrow, what would you do as a replacement job?"

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Hirogen15 years ago192 reads

marikod. If I want a critique

on my writing I will consider hiring you. Damn, and you lawyers wonder why everyone wants to see you skydive without parachutes.

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marikod15 years ago191 reads

Oh, don't worry, for you the criticism is free. And

now, if you'll excuse me, I need to get off the train as the wreck is about to start.

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OldTraveler15 years ago143 reads

It does not take a lawyer to critique your writing

And since you post you insightful, (intentionally?) provocative thoughts in this semi-public venue it is completely fair for those who read this board to reply. A small fraction even agree with you on occasion.

Personally, in this case, I think Marikod is expending his energy needlessly. He can spend a lot of time and space trying to educate you about writing clear posts but it would most likely be in vain. I believe you intentionally write confused ambiguous posts because it allows you to slip in far more backhanded slaps at whole groups of people, and when confronted, claim it is not what you said.

Some may think you are an angry, loud, irritant, but personally I do not think you are ignorant about the English language. That would be too easy an out for you.

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Hirogen15 years ago105 reads

That's the nicest thing you have ever said to me

I can see you are a smart man when you take your medications.

Don't worry about marikod. He has plenty of time on his hands, but I wish he would get rid of that pony tail.

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G215 years ago306 reads

They'd be doing exactly what they're doing now, just advertising differently.

Maybe you're too young to remember a time before the internet existed, but I was seeing providers back then, and I can assure you many other guys on this board were too. It was just as active of a hobby scene, the only difference is we didn't have discussion boards like this for ridiculous questions to be asked/answered.

The ladies ran print ads in the classified section of newspapers, tabloids or magazines- most of which have now been replaced by the internet. And since it's called the world's oldest profession for a reason, I'm sure the women of centuries past got the word out just fine before there were newspapers too.

In fact, they've unearthed sections of Pompeii that were covered by the volcanic eruption 2,000 years ago and found street markers indicating where houses of prostitution were located.

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inicky4615 years ago189 reads

Re: They'd be doing exactly what they're doing now, just advertising differently.

Exactly what I was trying to say...just better said.

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nahtynikkey15 years ago121 reads

Re: They'd be doing exactly what they're doing now, just advertising differently.

Posted By: G2

Thank you.. well said

And before there were newspapers to put ads in, there were bath houses/AMPs. And someone had mentioned below that the newspapers would only apply to big cities...not true, we've had a local paper that's ran an "adult services" section for close to 20 years, and compared to big cities, Madison, WI is not that big at all..a college town. And we've had multiple "bath houses" for close to 35+ years, 2 of which are still open to this day.

I didn't start on the internet(even though it was available when I started in 05), started at a bath house for 8 months then went independent and had an ad in the local paper, then discovered the internet, and at that time, there were maybe a total of 5 other girls in the city online, compared to over 100 now, lol.

Oh, and before I started this, I went to college, twice.. so the ? about what would we do in the real world... many of us have, many DO have other professions besides this, YOU just aren't aware of that fact, and others, like myself, discovered a long time ago, that doing this, versus working 2 jobs, made much more sense financially. Marrying a rich man to "take care of us".... lmao.. have had that opportunity more times than I can count, I will NEVER get married again, and especially not for money... sorry, the times have changed, and women no longer need to seek out a financially stable husband to "survive".

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G215 years ago118 reads

It was actually simpler and less expensive for the ladies 20 years ago.

A 3-line ad for $20-25/month, automatically renewing if you chose, and a pager. That's all it took to be in business. No professional glamor photography, no expensive web site, no expensive monthly ads on the malls. I know this because I dated two providers during that era, one for 6 years and one for four years, and I used to help them write their ads.

The difference the internet has made is it's now easier for everybody to know what they're getting rather than taking a chance because she sounded OK on the phone. The ability to see photographs and read reviews has dramatically improved the quality of the experience. Plus, it has made it possible to see many women, whereas before, it was so hard to find someone you liked, you tended to stick with them as a regular.

And for the posters that think the opposite of the internet is street walking, you're crazy. There have always been call girls and escorts, of all quality levels, even before the internet. If anything, they were more expensive and exclusive because they were harder to find. You found them through word of mouth referrals or other means. But to think that if the internet didn't exist you'd be street walking is absurd. If you're not street walking now, you wouldn't have been 20 years ago either.

Also, I'm well aware of the fact that many of the women that escort have college degrees and other jobs. I know two escorts that have their Ph.D. Both of them made the decision to keep escorting after getting their degrees, rather than start out in some entry level research job paying $45,000. I've also known a realtor, caterer and a mortgage broker that supplemented their incomes when business was slow. Frankly, I think it's great they're able to do that and I love seeing ladies that have other careers because it always seems more like a real date to me and less like P4P.

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hotplants15 years ago363 reads

Out of all of the attention whores I have seen on this board

You are definitely a contender.

Is repeatedly seeking the lowest common denominator and, obviously, going out of your way to be insulting getting your dick hard yet?

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YeastInfection15 years ago202 reads

You are so jealous aren't you!!!

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hotplants15 years ago191 reads

oye...OK. I'll bite.

What in the world is it you think I'm jealous of?

BTW, smiley face and multiple exclamation points under an alias were a nice touch. So friendly, no?

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Hirogen15 years ago181 reads

Well hotpanties. Stop reading them, or can't you control yourself?

Fooooo.

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AllyMoore15 years ago235 reads

I'd be someplace pushing a pencil and acting out in less satisfying ways

An old school client once told me "a girl like you would have never have been involved in this business if it weren't for the internet" and I'm inclined to thinking he's right.

I would have always ultimately become promiscuous.
I doubt it would have been as satisfying.

I don't think bourgeois fantasies of sex work (i.e. the hooker fantasy, the stripper fantasy etc.) would have translated into realization if it involved me seeking it out in streets, hotel bars or placing ads in the yellow pages.

In the same vein of the many clients who would never have sought the services of a provider if it required them dialing a phone number of an unknown quantity, entering a brothel or picking up a streetwalker-

I think that the internet made it sterilized, middle class and accessible enough to do things I otherwise would have not.

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MP6715 years ago122 reads

That makes a hell of a lot of sense

I don't mean to sound like I'm surprised, it's just, it seems, that the 'net kinda brought it out to the mainstream. Making it more accessible, and inturn, easier for someone that didn't think they had the social skills to meet up with a beautiful lady in the real world.

And in the same respect, the ladies don't have to walk the streets, hang out in bars, or be under the thumb in a brothel. You do your ad, have the sense to screen prospective clients, and pick and choose who you want to see based on your comfort zone and whether or not the guy checks out to your satisfaction.

It's not perfect, by no means. But the ladies are better off with this medium as opposed to meeting some John on the street or in a bar that they have no idea who the fuck they are, IMHO.

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impposter15 years ago129 reads

Hobbyists. If the internet did not exist

Posted By: Ally Moore

In the same vein of the many clients who would never have sought the services of a provider if it required them dialing a phone number of an unknown quantity, entering a brothel or picking up a streetwalker-

I think that the internet made it sterilized, middle class and accessible enough to do things I otherwise would have not.

That is more how I read the question, too. Maybe in big cities (NYC, LA, SF, LV, ...) there were newspapers (Screw and others), personal ads, and plenty of cabbies, bell boys, and mouths for word of mouth to spread if someone was looking to hobby. But millions of others in smaller towns across the country would never have known about or been comfortable enough to explore The Floating World without the internet. Likewise, many babes.

So, that's how I read the question.