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Provider Touring for Dummies?
Anon_from_NYC 245 reads
posted
1 / 15

Or see locals.

There is nothing more annoying then guys trying to "convince" provider to tour their area.

I stand corrected.  Whats MORE annoying is when provider finally tours their area as same guys who were begging cancel at last moment.


LuckyIrishPrick 6 Reviews 201 reads
posted
2 / 15

Since you are not paying for it e.g. "I can't afford to fly her up" why do you need to know anything about negotiating flights and hotels? That's her job.  

If she is as entrepreneurial as you think she is, she doesn't need your help.

And you DAMN sure should not be "arranging for enough appointments to make the trip good for her" - that is promotion of prostitution. Arrange for her to travel across state lines on top of that and it's federal = felony.      


Here's that URL you wanted.


LuckyIrishPrick 6 Reviews 138 reads
posted
3 / 15

then you meet me in person and find out that all the rumors you heard about leprechauns are true!

Edward.Abbey 1 Reviews 1143 reads
posted
4 / 15

Where can one find some tips on touring for providers? I'm a hobbyist living in one of the larger cities in the Northeast and am trying to convince a provider in the Southeast to go on tour, at least to my city.  I know nothing of the mechanics of negotiating reasonably-priced flights in sync with reasonably-priced provider-friendly hotels and arranging for enough appointments to make the trip good for her.  She had been to my town recently as a civie and loved it.  I can't afford to fly her up nor can I get away to fly down and see her. She seems pretty entrepreneurial based on her web presence and discussions I've had with her.  There's too much information and history on the web for her to be LE, so I'm not concerned about that issue.  Any suggestions, URL's etc?  Thank you.

Dr.Freud 158 reads
posted
5 / 15

MYOB!
See hertravel to her wait til shecomes to you or see someone else.
You are way to involved. You re verging on obsessing over this one girl.
theres so much wrong here.
Yo sound as if in a heart beat you would be too involved in HER business, professional as well as personal. The other clients she sees whle in your area are also NONE of your business.
I am guessing shes just being polite when she probably want to tell you to MYOB.
Just P2P and go ome happy moving on to another playmate. Stop obsessing.

HDDOC96 13 Reviews 202 reads
posted
6 / 15

except when they will only book incall overnights, Seriously ladies, if I want to entertain you for 12- 24 hours let me do it were I'm comfortable.  Your saving $$$ on a hotel anyway.  Maybe I'm The exception but generally I wont do OV out of my comfort zone.
Doc

Anon_from_NYC 185 reads
posted
7 / 15

I am perfectly OK with OV at the clients home.

I actually prefer it because that way I am the guest :-)))


It is that "ohhh I can only book 1h but please come visit me in buttcrack alabama" that's annoying.
I get about dozen of those emails a day.

Seriously. The reason he has no clue about touring is because he is NOT SUPPOSED to know.

Posted By: HDDOC96
except when they will only book incall overnights, Seriously ladies, if I want to entertain you for 12- 24 hours let me do it were I'm comfortable.  Your saving $$$ on a hotel anyway.  Maybe I'm The exception but generally I wont do OV out of my comfort zone.
Doc

Anon_from_NYC 121 reads
posted
8 / 15
GaGamblerssmarterbrother 120 reads
posted
9 / 15

I think I have missed that particular community, but I have been in several that should consider changing their name to something similar.

If I am going to spend the entire night with a lady, the "who" is a lot more important to me than the "where".

I will agree, most guys don't have a clue about touring, or anything else about how a lady runs her business. It all seems so simple and cut and dried from the outside looking in, just like every other business.

Smarty1101 61 Reviews 150 reads
posted
10 / 15
beccablossoms See my TER Reviews 140 reads
posted
11 / 15

No only are you takint a risk setting up appointments, if you handle her travel, even if you just help her find affordable travel and not pay for it, you can be in violation of 2 federal laws that have been successfully used to prosecute providers and clients including some celebrities, The Man Act and The Travel Act.

Keep in mind, some girls are unable to travel due to personal life or she may be doing just find and is hapy where she is.  

RalphieL 15 Reviews 120 reads
posted
12 / 15

Lucky, of course flights and hotels are her business.  I meant that I have no advice to give on that subject.  Of course arrangements for enough appointments are her for her to do, also.  The link you provide is interesting but has no relevance to my question.  I have no interest in pimping or transporting anybody across state lines.  Give me a break.

RalphieL 15 Reviews 103 reads
posted
13 / 15

This 'dumbies' book should make a fortune.  Do I get royalties for originating the idea?

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 131 reads
posted
14 / 15

Providing is a business. Providers tour when it makes sense.

Often, though not always, their tours include what I would call "anchor customers" in each city. An anchor customer is someone who has booked sufficient time to liquidate the cost of that city (flights, hotels, etc) such that any additional bookings, even if just for an hour, are profitable.

In lieu of this, providers will pre-book shorter appointments with a larger number of interested gents. If their pre-books are insufficient to cost-justify the trip, it doesn't happen.

Keep in mind that there are opportunity costs to touring as well, in the form of customers that they otherwise would have seen in their home city; and if the touring is extensive they may lose some local customers.

Basically, unless you are going to be an anchor customer, you can't convince her to come. Even then, if the opportunity costs would be too high, you might not be able to do it.

Then there is the flip side. Sometimes the market in a given area is fairly saturated at a given price point and the only way to drive sufficient volume would be to cut rates. Because a substantive population of hobbyists is interested in "new blood," sometimes touring allows a provider to divide her costs across a much larger effective population for demand; thus allowing her to sustain rates that would be unsustainable spread across a smaller demand population.

Of course, you have no way of knowing what a given provider's circumstances or motivations really are. As a great many providers point out -- sometimes anonymously, sometimes not -- the overwhelming preponderance of providers are actresses. As they are actresses, it is impossible to know where reality ends and marketing begins; so unless you are a seriously good judge of character your safest bet is to assume everything expressed has some marketing angle and a tenuous linkage to reality at best.

I'm not with the posters here who claim that hobbyists *should* be ignorant of the market, or who frown upon or deride lack of knowledge in that arena. IMHO, hobbyists benefit from the greatest possible knowledge of how the product they purchase is made, how it functions, how it is marketed, how it is transported, and the overall forces at work in that market.

Any salesperson who wants you to be ignorant is someone who benefits from your ignorance and ought not be trusted.

I'm not an anchor-customer for traveling providers -- it's simply not in my budget. If someone I'd like to see visits and my schedule is compatible -- I'll see her. If not, I'll see one of the 100+ highly rated local providers who usually charge a lot less than the traveling ladies.

I'd suggest a similar approach for you. Just let her know you are interested and leave it at that. SHE is the salesperson. It is her job to figure out how to separate you from your money. If there isn't enough money there to interest her -- don't worry, there's another lady who will take interest. LOL

Edward.Abbey 1 Reviews 133 reads
posted
15 / 15

Becca, of course flights, hotels and appointments are her business.  I meant that I have no advice to give her on that subject.  I have no interest in pimping or transporting anybody across state lines for any purposes.  I don't know about any 'Man Act' but the White-Slave Traffic Act of 1910 was named after Congressman James Robert Mann.

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