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"Properly Screen"
VelvetVacation See my TER Reviews 602 reads
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"How can you properly screen a person without knowing their real name?".  

Words don't Teach
Only Experience Teaches.

Go beyond the Name.
See inside the Heart.

GoogleWasMyIdea2559 reads

I'm getting ready to set out for Vegas, have been reading sites and do pre-screens and have been shocked at the number of ladies who say they want my real name to book the appointment, and then will want to see my ID when I get there.

I saw this with one highly rated $800 lady (who slipped in the request when finalizing the appt and then cut of contact when I said just check my references), and have seen it on a few other websites and just got that request from a highly rated young lady in the under $500 range.

I'm almost tempted... I really want to see one of the ladies requesting it. But doesn't seem like a good idea.
Anyone ever done this? Any problems from it?
People who haven't... would you

DatyRookie903 reads

No, I have not. If you are an established client there should be enough ways to verify. Move on to other ladies. There are certain boundaries that should not have to be crossed.

At the same time if you want to see her bad enough you have to follow her rules.  Same reason why I don't think it is wise to host at a private in call or out call. Potential for too much personal info to be revealed or found is not good.

Never had to show my ID to anyone and I have seen plenty of $300 -$600 per hour dates.  

I never downplay safety, whether for her or myself, but trust your gut instinct.

Posted By: GoogleWasMyIdea
I'm getting ready to set out for Vegas, have been reading sites and do pre-screens and have been shocked at the number of ladies who say they want my real name to book the appointment, and then will want to see my ID when I get there.  
   
 I saw this with one highly rated $800 lady (who slipped in the request when finalizing the appt and then cut of contact when I said just check my references), and have seen it on a few other websites and just got that request from a highly rated young lady in the under $500 range.  
   
 I'm almost tempted... I really want to see one of the ladies requesting it. But doesn't seem like a good idea.  
 Anyone ever done this? Any problems from it?  
 People who haven't... would you?  
   
 

If it's part of her screening process and you want to see her, that seems simple enough.  

I have provided it in the past, to ladies who requested it. Never had any kind of a problem.

MfSD>>>>>

If you can't flash your ID or cough up your real name....some other guy is more than happy to. Move on....she will not be heartbroken because she didn't see you. Trust she will keep booking and not give you a second thought.

Some reasons for asking for ID...didn't say it was gospel.

Joe blow has simply lost his damn mind.....with his shady provider references.

Joe blow thinks he is untouchable with his fake name....Joe Blow....with his board handle, or white list.....

 
On the other hand, it's guys out there fucking up using their real name and info.....go figure...

GaGambler772 reads

If she demands ID, some other girl will be happy to see you without it, Move on, there are plenty of fish in the sea, you will forget she even existed by this time tomorrow.

Some reasons NOT to show ID... Didn't say it was gospel

Slutty Sally has simply gone BSC after many years of great reviews.

Top Ten Tina thinks a 9-9 review is worth blackmailing a guy to keep her standing in the "top lists"

 
On the other hand, it's women out there fucking up while demanding the guys real info that fucks it up for the rest of you. Recently a VERY well reviewed provider listed a guys Real name and phone number right here on this very board and it took almost 12 hours to get the post removed. BSC hookers like that are why even guys like me who don't mind giving my own personal info to a lady can't in good conscience condone the practice to other guys with a lot to lose if the woman goes BSC on him.

See how easy this game is to play?

NoYellowEnvelope527 reads

... P411 OKs, my preference is to go with providers for whom that's sufficient, rather than give them my real name and ID.

But on the ID, I know that there's a P411 policy that providers can ask for ID to confirm identity.  I've never been asked to do it, but if I were I'd agree but mask all info except my photo and the last 4 digits of the ID number--the digits that are part of my P411 ID. That will allow the provider to confirm I'm the guy with that P411 profile without sharing my full name and address.

Senator.Blutarsky501 reads

I have for a select few that required it. Never had an issue. It really depends on whether you think the risk of exposure is worth it. In my opinion, as long as you do your research and choose wisely there is little risk.  

Solo mis dos centavos.

Personally,  I am surprised every provider doesn't verify your real name and who you are before booking a date. Perhaps I have watched too many episodes of criminal minds. How can you properly screen a person without knowing their real name?  I guess I am naive on the subject.

"How can you properly screen a person without knowing their real name?".  

Words don't Teach
Only Experience Teaches.

Go beyond the Name.
See inside the Heart.

NoYellowEnvelope493 reads

... how a hobbyist can properly screen a provider without knowing her real name.  Do you demand the real name of every provider you see before you agree to meet her?  No, I didn't think so.

Providers look out for each other. Thus references from other providers with a solid track record are sufficient for most providers. For those who require more info, that's their prerogative.  Each provider and hobbyist needs to decide for herself or himself what kind of screening is necessary to feel comfortable and safe.

and this makes it a sensitive subject.

Since there ARE CRAZIES on both sides,
  it's best to gather the information you can  
     and make your best GUT decision.

Thank you!!!  

Posted By: ron hardman
Personally,  I am surprised every provider doesn't verify your real name and who you are before booking a date. Perhaps I have watched too many episodes of criminal minds. How can you properly screen a person without knowing their real name?  I guess I am naive on the subject.

Posted By: GoogleWasMyIdea
Anyone ever done this? Any problems from it?
I do it; not had any problems

ust as ladies wish to screen in ways that make them comfortable, a hobbyist should provide only the information that makes him comfortable. If a lady wants to see your driver's license at the start of a session as her final screening requirement, and you are not comfortable doing so, then the two of you are not a good screening match... Just move on to another lady.  

If you REALLY want to see one of the ladies requiring "the license check", then you need to make sure you are comfortable with the legitimacy of the provider.  If she is well reviewed, well respected in the community, it really should be a non-issue.. She's not scanning your license so she knows where you live. She is prob. looking at your license for about 3 seconds to see the photo and perhaps match up the name. That's it.    

I think the ID check that some ladies require is really at the low end of the inherent risks we all take by partaking in the hobby. There are many more things to concern yourself with.

That goes from a lady's screening requirements to outcall vs. incall  to anything and everything about the date itself.

Listen to your gut instincts!

 
The only thing question I have about your recent situation is this: does that lady have her real name requirement posted on her ad or website?   If so, then she may not have been "slipping it in" at the last moment as you supposed; she could have assumed you'd read that bit and were already aware of it when you contacted her. ;-)

If not, then that's her bad and, in my opinion, she should have stated that upfront.  :-)

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Mr.M.Johnson476 reads

I've never, not once, given my last name.  I have plenty of references and WhiteListings.  It's very rare that ladies even ask my name - less than 5% - and there's only been two times, that I can remember, that a lady wouldn't see me w/o my last name.

Seems to me that references are better/more important than a last name.

souls_harbor364 reads

I will give my real name (and have) to ladies with long track records.  If someone new pops up and doesn't have any kind of history, then no, probably not.  I do have P411 and so she can accept that or not in that case

BUt then you can only see ladies who don't require it. I get a real name and ID out of almost all my clients. Honestly, if you're visiting someone reputable, and you're not some public figure, you really have very little to worry about. If you don't want to give your name then don't. But don't think that its uncommon to give your name. Just as there are many providers mid to high range who don't take a name, i think just as many do.

CaptAwesome549 reads

I have hobbied using an alias for as long as I have been hobbying - the same way the ladies do.  If a lady wants to verify me, she can use my hobby name to contact any number of references who will know me by that name and vouch for me.  I joined P411 under that name and have plenty of OKs there.   I thought about getting a fake ID with my hobby name on it but figured its too much trouble.  I've never been asked for ID.  If a lady expected to see my ID before a session, I would find a different lady.

I would do it again though. A little nerve racking. She would have to be really special similar to the first one.

Yeah, I made one exception too.  The lady had perhaps the best body I had ever seen in photos (playboy, actresses, porn, anybody)- and damn if she wasn't even more stunning in person.  An artist could not have come up with a women with better measurements and perfect full natural breasts.  So after months of lusting after her, I eventually gave in, lol.  She turned out to be a sweetheart too.  Caught her just before she quit the business.  Lucky me.  But never could be tempted again to provide my info.  That was a once in a lifetime thing for me.

If you don't give us your real name. and how do we know that you didn't pull a bait and switch (yes clients do this as well) and have a friend contact us and then you show up... I've heard of groups of friends using the same TER handle or P411 screen name and providers not confirming that they are actually them. Anyone can email me saying they are Bob Smith with 5 white lists 87 reviews and 19 Okays, but how do I know that's really who is walking through my door, especially when most clients don't give a basic description of what they look like we never know who is on the other side of the door or even a vague knowledge of what they look like. So I ask for full name and I trust my gut to ask for ID's if I feel the need to.  

I hear there are plenty of providers who don't ask for real names... but I'll never be one of them.

I don't really have anything to add to what hasn't already been said but was wondering if providers asking for ID and Real ID are not signaling they are definitely not LE -- seems that any sting setup would want to make things easy rather than raise the bar to get in.

That alone isn't going to get me to give my idea these days but was curious about what others might think about the thought.

First , I only see very well reviewed very established ladies but even so,  
I am 56 y/o, Single, Never married, no children, sold my business and completely retired and although not rich, I never have to worry about money again.
She going to tell some body I paid a good-looking ladies for great sex?? now that would absolutely shock my friends and family.
Big news!

VOO-doo376 reads

have provided this info. Most were newbies with no references (a few were infrequent dabblers who felt embarrassed to ask previous providers for references). These men have tended to be repeat clients.  

Sure, there's a downside for them. However, we both have something to lose.  

Plus, they have a huge advantage over me. They can afford legal help that would probably crush me for life if I ever attempted to blackmail or extort them

wanted to see my airline boarding pass to prove I was a tourist and not LE. Not a problem as she took a quick look (my finger was covering my last name) and said "Shall we get comfortable?"  Great time.

I've got no problem with telling my real name, I do it all the time when setting up appointments. ID, I've got enough references that I don't feel like I need to show ID to a provider (and I would not set an appointment with a provider that asks for an ID)

There are thousands of ladies who will see you without you needing to show your ID, if you use a service like P411.
That was my hobby path.

I always use my own email address when communicating with a provider and use my own name, I've never had a reason not to. I'm not married or in a relationship of any kind so there's no one to catch me out, blackmail would be a waste of time and any legal proceedings would require the provider to be outed too.

Any interaction with a provider requires discretion on both sides, maybe I've been lucky or maybe my experiences have been in the majority but I've never felt that giving my identity was an issue.

I can understand how being asked for such details without volunteering them could cause hesitation, especially for married clients, but I suppose you have to put yourself in the place of the providers, they obviously feel this is the best means of ensuring they will be safe and that the client will turn up and not waste their time.

(I'm aware, obviously, of the irony in saying I give my real name to providers while posting under a pseudonym here but while I'm willing to trust providers in a one on one situation I'm less willing to trust anyone who might be browsing this site looking to cause trouble)

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