Yanno .... if it was all fun, they wouldn't call it WORK!

Nods to the girls who see it as their JOB that carries a responsibility to do the best they can under sometimes less than perfect circumstances!!!!

The rest of you ladies ... listen up.   You don't have anything made of solid gold between your legs .. flaming monkeys don't fly out of your ass during sex ... If your clients wanted to spend their time in a futile attempt to be what you wanted them to be and expend their efforts in a fruitless attempt to make YOU happy .. all the while paying YOU for the priviledge, they can do THAT with their wifes!

WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE !!

It's becoming clear to me that reviews need to have another rating box named "Princess Factor" and an average "Princess Score" on their main listing.

dayum you pig, that is friggin hilarious.  Hopefully you get some response here, can't wait to read them.  I'm still rolling on the flaming monkeys out of the ass thing.  

Nods to you ladies as well who do a great job as the pig says under sometimes less than perfect circumstances.

Can't see the Princess ratings though.  Eventhough it does appear like an attitude check but just to many haters out there to try and sabotage under disguise a providers business.  Just my opinion.

the "HeMAN" category:

1. Men who talk a big talk with small winky to back it up
2. Men who arrive to the session, smelling like they just came out of a garbage truck
3. Men who still insist they don't need a shower, but yet when he passes by the flowers that are in the room, they seem to wilt from the stink
4. Men who are so into themselves, that they just lay there expecting her to do all the work (no wonder why wifey is bored at home and not dishing out the "poon-tang"-HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo).
5. Men who insist on getting the finger up the butt, but refuses to take an enema, before hand (can anyone say- Gag me!), and also can someone say "Skiddddddddddd Marrrrkkkkkkssss" in the underwear dept (Sorry-wearing black does not defeat the funk-A-roma, either).

Oh, you may have a list for us girls. But it works both ways, BABY. Regardless if we were getting paid or not, now you know what we women have to put up with sometimes (thank god, NOT all men are like this, so not finger pointing here), and you may wonder why we NEED to fake it at times.

So my gentleman friends, lets NOT make this an issue of U against US girls. No, we are not perfect, but neither are U. I am pretty sure that the list can go on and on both ends here (hopefully, a washed and cleaned end).




















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Unless you believe providers love you for your $$$ alone, it seems that the most intellegent thing to do is to look and smell as nice as possible before an encounter (never get a second chance to make a first impression...).  If you don't feel your appearance and behavior are important, than you seem to indicate that ladies only like you for your $$$.  How sad...

I know I'll probably get my head handed to me on this but it is us guys who are paying to be in the ladies company.  Yes, some of us show up dirty and that is a negative for all of us guys - the old saying one apple ruins the whole bunch...BUT, is that or is that not one of the criteria for YMMV?  In a perfect world if twins show up (at different times) and one is dirty and the other is clean the clean one will have a better time.  There is no YMMV for me when I've already become a customer and the woman I'm with is naked and we are hot steamy and I go for a trip downstairs and I need a tv timeout to clear my head.  At that point it is too late for me to leave and part of my enjoyable experience has been stiffled.  My only option then is to post a review and then get flamed.  Most women in the hobby have absolutely zero issues with cleanliness but when it does happen it really sucks.

As to the princess factor, it is real and it also ruins an expereince, at least for me...I'm in my late 20's and tend to gravitate to women in the hobby that are a little older because they generally (at least in my experience) tend to offer a great package of services that are augmented by a more secure, down to earth attitude.  Of course, there are some younger providers that fit that bill as well.

Lastly, if I show up and want to simply lay on my back and not be overly involved that should be ok as well...after all, I am a paying customer...maybe that's my fantasy, to be completely taken care of by a woman...it really doesn't matter...my participation or lack thereof affects my enjoyment in a session and probably has a chilling effect on GFE but if that's what I want that's ok.

Gentlemen!!!!!!

He's right!   Time to get in touch with your inner PIG and stand up and say:

BECAUSE IT'S WHAT I WANT, that's why!

Of COURSE I want sex on the first date!  (how else would I know if I want a second date?)

Take care of YOUR orgasm before I get there!

After Sex:   Honey ... you can stay ... if you promise to be quiet - other wise toss a load of clothes in the wash on your way out!

-- Modified on 8/19/2003 11:22:53 AM

perfect. But honestly, I don't care how much money you pay me, if your butt is dirty: CLEAN IT (my fee does not include butt wiping services, gentleman!),and I will tell you that to your face (politely). Then you can decide to stay or go (out of sheer embarressment). I will have no other choice but to say: NEXT. I am not your mama, wife, girlfriend, and it's your responsibility to clean your own butt. As for just laying there, don't be surprised/shocked to know that the provider then will count the minutes (because you are boring her to death). Then, you have a nerve to complain that we acted bored with you! LOL Get a clue!. So, save the DRAMA. I will admit, if you came to me with the just tooooo laid back attitude, I would rather stop what I am doing and turn on the t.v. and give you your money back, or call another client who is going to meet me half way for some hot, sweaty fun (you will be VERY surprised by how men do come a flocking, when a lady is calling with some time freed up). Your loss, his gain (the 2nd runner up), my gain. Win-win situation, that way I see it.











-- Modified on 8/19/2003 12:07:57 PM

No matter how you slice it, when all the pampering and applause and name calling and flowery reviews have been cleared away, it's still a business.  

The guy pays the money, the gal provides the service.

If the guy wants a Rolls, he pays bigger bucks than if he wants a Chevy.  He still gets a mode of transportation from point A to point B.  If he gets all he wants an needs from a Chevy that's where it ends.  If he can afford the Rolls he still may choose the Chevy because he just doesn't get all stired up over the bells and whistles.  If he can't afford the Rolls he has little else to do than choose the Chevy.

If the gal wants to be a Rolls she must provide "bells and whistles".  When she does she will probably attract some gents just because others can't get afford her.  But she must remember that both the Rolls and Chevy provide the same basic service.  She must also remember that if a guy buys a Rolls he is more likely than not to expect something more than the Chevy: no bitch and moan, nothing but all smiles and glowing warmth.  Complete attention to detail and to him.

If you act like high maintenance you must perform like it.  

The car doesn't rate the buyer, the buyer rates the car.

I have seldom seen so much vitriol wasted on such a silly subject.  Cleanliness is an absolutely minimal requirement for both hobbiest and provider.  A provider is no more obligated to endure filth and stench because she is getting paid than a hobbyist is obliged to to ignore running sores because he is getting laid.  What is the debate?  Take a shower, everyone.  This is a date and very good things can happen if both parties approach it respectfully and with some awareness of the needs and desires of the other.  (This doesn't address a special session in which stink is part of the contract...I don't condemn that, but it ought to made clear up front and agreed to).  Communicate, expect the best, and offer the best and you won't go far wrong.

Mistrezbitch-

Love your attitude...wish I knew who you are.

Why thanks, and my mama thanks you 2 lol

For she taught me not to take crap from anyone, and to stand up to what you believe in.

To the point first in saying that A. I never show up smelly nor
having bad breath! With all of that aside, I can state that to
many times that I have shown up to visit with a provider and
went down and about gaged due to the smell! A complete turn off
for me! And I get irrate because I consider it part of the
service for someone to have the common respect to be clean as
I am. I am also paying for said respect and if I do not receive
it, well needless to say I never see that provider again!
I am worth it to be provided with a good time that I am paying
for, If the provider wants to refund my $$$ after the fact and
the session is over and I complain, then it would put things in
a different mode. But being that this has never occured then
I have to agree with PIG. I am not out to project any ill
feelings or smells onto someone else, But I am out to have
my needs met and I expect that this will happen. I am the
shopper and buyer! So for those provider's who think that I owe
them a good time? Well forget it unless you want to give it
away for FREE! But as long as I am paying for a service then
guess what! Its my dime and I am not overly concerned if you
are having the best time of your life, thats your problem and
if you don't like it then you are in the wrong business.
I will give you respect and consideration and that is all that
I feel that I owe to you, and I expect the same in return!
And ladies and Gents alike, keep it clean and all can have fun!
just my .02 cents

If ANY man should come with me, with an atittude, he will surely be surprised to find that I will give one back (including his funds). For he is not paying me enough to be treated like dirt. I remember working for corporations, when the Boss would just talk down to you, and everyone was scared to speak up but me. I also remember telling my boss, if he wanted a robot, he better go to a computer store, for he wasn't getting over here. I will always go back to the saying my mother always taught me, and how so true: How you treat a person, is how you want to be treated. So, he wants to be treated like an a-hole, then go ahead and disrepect me, and he will find out what it is like.  Also, he will need to make sure that the door doesn't hit his tiny behind on the way out. If he comes into my door, looking to be pampered and treated like a King, then he came to the right place, for then I know that I am in company with a true gentleman, who is going to return the favor and treat me like a Queen. I don't see anything wrong with each party being respectful. I hope not anyone else???? Also to the ladies: it's all about self-respect. If you cannot respect yourself, no one else will. No amount of money in the world is justified for any human being to bring you down to their level of attitude. Learn to decline the offer, and just walk away. In the end , you become a better person. Trust me, there was one time when I had to actually open the door and demand he leave, for his attitude indicated that the money he paying that it was OKAY for him to try to ram his whole hand up me, knowing that only one or two fingers was enough. Also, that though I said NO because I was hurting, he chose to ignore my feelings in all of this. Sorry, but I wasn't having it, and I gave him all his funds back, and kicked him out.






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I agree.  If they treat me with respect they are treated like a king, if they give me an attitude they will most likely leave with my boot up their ass (but that costs extra lol!)  I have been very lucky in that I have never had trouble with any of my gents.

I do agree with your points on cleanliness and smell.

However some men do see a provider to be pampered without a lot of recipocation on their part.  Some ladies will in fact tell their customers that it is all about the customer and not to worry about pleasing the lady.  This in and of itself does not mean that the man is disrespecting the woman.  It means that he is paying her for a service.

If you wish to avoid that laid back type of client then you should post on your website your 5 rules from above and state that you require a client to please you as much as you please them.  

This will help insure that you not only avoid many smelly, unclean clients but also any that just want to be pampered without reciprocating.  However I don't recall ever having seen this posted by a provider on her website much less one who posts under an unknown alias.

I can only guess that getting the money is more important than only seeing the type of client you enjoy.  So instead of doing something to help eliminate these types of clients from visiting you it is easier to just complain about them on the discussion boards.





-- Modified on 8/19/2003 3:31:52 PM

then a funky man  and or his funky attitude would be accepted in the room, and I would accept that state of smell and or his attitude and put up with it. If you read my post, I am telling U and all other's that is NOT okay to accept it, at all costs. For one thing, I don't need to tell men to leave their funky state and or attitude behind, when seeing a provider. This should be something that should be ingrained within each man. I mean, didn't mama teach any manners??????????

Also, before I do meet a client, I do make sure to speak with him before we meet. I ask him what he expects, and I tell him what to expect of me. 99% of the time, it's a win-win situation. That is why communication with one another, BEFORE meeting is extremely important!!!! As for myself, I like to find out what type of session he is expecting. If he wants a hot steamy phuck, then he picked the right place. But, if he is more low mantenance and requires him to just lay there, I would prefer him to see someone else (and will tell him so).  Trust me, I am at a time in my life right now, where I can afford (Mistrez does save her pennies) to be a little picky, like you men. So, when someone doesn't live up to my own fantasy of how it should be between 2 people in a room (NOTICE how I said 2 NOT 1), then I will kindly tell him to seek someone else. Also, I will be happy to provide names of other ladies to go and see, who would be a better fit for him. BTW, That one percent was the guy who thought a whole hand can fit up my p*ssy (Sorry, but I am not an inflatable doll here, no matter how much money he may have).










-- Modified on 8/19/2003 4:12:23 PM

MP,

Stop your friggin bitchin and just wash your smelly ass & pits!

Ice

I'm sorry Princess, If disturbed your itty, bitty feewlings

I wasn't and never DID imply that a gentleman shouldn't wash first .... just that providers need to suck it up [pun alert] and make the best of a bad situation because they are, after all, getting PAID to do it.

And please ... post your reviewed name ... so those of us that expect value for our money can avoid your Yoni

"Trust me, if money WERE all that important"  as if it's NOT ??

If I ever said that ... my tongue would snap right off it's roller!


Perhaps you could just give us your PayPal account and we could send you the money without inconviencing you with actualy having to EARN it?

and seek a kind, more refined gentleman, than a sweathog. But thank ya anyways.

I look at it this way: you come to me with a smelly butthole and We girls should just "suck it up" LOL You need help, and it starts with a shower and soap. But sorry, I am not getting paid to wipe your little bottom. You will need to do that yourself, deary

-- Modified on 8/19/2003 5:02:19 PM

PIG in a Blanket Works for me!

Oh Pig Pig Pig,

No worries about you ever seeing me. I don't allow reviews and I'm VERY picky with whom I spend my time with. AFTER ALL I AM A PRINCESS!

Ice



-- Modified on 8/19/2003 6:15:08 PM

Hi there STM.

I'm not getting these past couple of threads. It's a date! I think someone said that, but it bears repeating.

name or maybe you are just bitching to stay in practice.  In your first post you complain about men who are not clean, smell bad and expect to just lay there and be serviced by you.

In this post you are telling us that have a methodolgoy of communicating with a client that insures a 99% win-win scenario.
I would think you would be ecstatic.  Based upon your success ratio that means that if you have 700 dates in a year only 7 of them would be not to your liking(smelly or just want to lay there).

I can't understand what you are complaining about.  If fact with that success rate how do you even know that smelly men exist.  

I don't know of any provider or hobbyist on TER with that sort of success rate.  You should share your secret with everybody.

As I said before I agree with you that men and women both should be clean and not smell bad.  And as long as you can communicate with your clients in advance what your expectations are and they agree with it then knock yourself out.  

Added later:

I finally read the thread below about YMMV and at least understand why you got on the warpath so easily.  It never really occurred to me that so many men would show up smelling bad or if they did would not ask to take a shower before getting close.  


-- Modified on 8/19/2003 7:44:13 PM

We've all seen that sign.  As much as MistrezBitchInaHalf's tone annoys me, I gotta say that her items 1-3 and 5 fall into this category.  Yep, just like coffee shop owners, providers do have a right to insist on a few basic decencies.

It's funny.  Under a different title I could have agreed with your comments, or at least agreed that there are some providers who deserve them.  I've read enough posts on the boards to be well aware of the "Princess Factor".  Lucky for me I probably can't afford the ladies that rank high on that scale.  But downright bad hygeine is over the line, as is disrespectful behavior and general nastiness.

For the record, I don't include entertaining the provider in this category.  I usually try to, because it makes the whole experience more rewarding for me.  I mean, part of the GFE fantasy is for me to act like the BF.  But I don't see this as a client obligation.
And yes, I would expect the provider to try to satisfy me to the best of her ability anyway.

Look at it this way.  Suppose I'm a plumber.  My job is to stop the leak, no matter what I feel about the homeowner.  Or I'm a lawyer.  If I take on a client at all, it's my duty to represent him to the best of my ability, even if his attitude or personality disgust me rather than inspire me.

I am embarrassed that you are even TRYING to represent as a pig.  There is NO WAY a provider should SUCK IT UP because she is being paid!  CHRIST!  

These ladies aren't f*cking McDonalds, so if they don't wanna boink with us because we're fat, ugly, hairy, some race they ain't down with or yes, even SMELLY...  Then damnit, they don't have to!  How you might feel about fatists or racists is your prerogative and you can interact with her accordingly, but you are DEAD WRONG in thinking they should tolerate anything they damn well don't want to.  JESUS.

Ditch Pig - the original pig

Reitchpig Dude I am glad to see you finally are posting on the boards.

But DP you always used to like to roll around in the mud and voraciously attack from the rear so why are you complaining about a little odor.  Also I think you may be getting too close to Vlad the Impaler for your own safety.  LMAO ! (Sorry folks just a little inside joke)

Really good to see you Ditchpig.  

-- Modified on 8/20/2003 2:33:05 AM

What I am trying to say that respect is a 2-way street. REGARDLESS of who is paying what. Also, No amount of money in the world is worth it to a woman to be treated like a dirt.Also, there is nothing wrong with a woman being a bit picky. That is why I like to communicate before I meet to find out what he is expecting. You will be surprised that I do know some providers who do this, and their self-esteem is high, by being "pro-active".  As a client, wouldn't you want to be with a woman who wanted to be with you??? PIB's (pig in a blanket- mentality) complain all the time that lady did this or that, but maybe if men have communicated more before going into the session, they can realize what type of woman she may be. Men should start being more pro-active (which requires more than laying down the money), and that I can applaud . Why should I go into a session, if the gentleman that I am supposed to meet, is not going to get my 100% effort into it. Nor, should you men go into session without knowing the rules of the lady. To me, then that would be a waste of your money, if she doesn't want to do certain things. As far as I remember, there are 2 people in the room, not one. Until that day the law of mathematics changes, that 1 plus 1 equals 1, that my feelings as a woman/provider do not ever count, then I will always voice my concerns.

Thanks!

OH, and p.s.- I hope that tone didn't disturb ya






-- Modified on 8/20/2003 7:07:45 AM

I don't recall saying men should deliberately come with an unpleasant smell, dearie.    People (in general) should be respectful of others and cleandliness is certainly a good start.

So .. you missed the point.

What I took expection to was the subtle (well maybe not so subtle) attitude about what you won't 'put up with' because, after all ... you're so golly gosh darned special!

Sure, you can tell a man he needs to take a shower and perhaps even lead him there.   Sure you can even refuse to accept the appointment if you're all that offended.   That was never at issue.  The "Suck It Up" message was for the girls who (not YOU, of course ... but yanno .. those OTHER girls) who think that paying clients OWE them something for just being gracious enough to accept the appointment.

It's good that you're picky.   I'm even pickier than you are.  

I limit my social calendar to people who concentrate on showing the world what they offer .. not telling the world what they demand.

You wouldn't make the cut.

These Ladies aren't McDonalds?   Judging my some of the comments .. they ARE McDonalds!  They sure don't make it sould like the customer gets it HIS way do they?

If you actually read the posts and apply the context, I never said the ladies have to accept anything they don't want to accept - any more than the client has to visit a lady he doesn't want to visit.

What I said was for them to keep in mind that it *IS* a job and that it's not SUPPOSED to be ALL fun and sometimes you suck it up and make the best of a bad situation ... not make ranting posts about what you will and will not "put up with"  - there is SUCH a difference between using the word "decline" and using the phrase "put up with" (as ifthe guy deliberately came smelly JUSt to piss her off.

What a nice thing to say!   DECLINE  rather than than earlier phrase "put up with"   WHAT a difference!   Glad to see you're starting to come around!

The Princess Factor is not determined by her willingness to accept a smelly client.

It's determined by her ATTITUDE about the smelly client:

NOT A PRINCESS:
Politely Decline - as in "I'm sorry, but I just can't do this"

BIG TIME PRINCESS:
"I won't put up with this because after all, it's all about ME and you have insulted ME and *I* am just too special!"

ReitchPiggy, Vlad and I miss you..........eom

-- Modified on 8/20/2003 8:55:08 AM

Hi! I am a PIG

I am a smelly, rude, and obnoxious man I love knowing that woman will always put up with my bullcrap attitude, for it gets me hard. Sometimes you will see me around on the street, scratching my ass in public, but I don't care, for I don't have any manners. My mama never taught me any, so I use street smarts: I don't wash, I fart all day long and I never wipe my butt. OH the ladies LOVE it when I pull down my drawls and there are skid marks going everywhere! EVEN SOME ON MY BACK..yummy!)) I bet they just love the aroma of my crap just seeping out of my underwear. See, I don't know how to wipe myself properly, so I use these ladies are doormats, and how they love wiping me down. That is what they are getting paid for. See women have no feelings at all. I believe it says so somewhere in the bible (forgive me, I am just learning how to read, I know it's there listed somewhere!). Women are just like my substitute MOMs These ladies adore me! When I call them and tell them I am coming over, for some reason, they hang up on me, BUT, I feel that they are just sooooooooooooooooooo excited to know that I am coming by, for they love to clean up my mess that I made in my undies ALL men should be like me . It doesn't matter that what we men say or do, women are there for our pleasure only. I just love my hairy bush below, because it turns me on with her trying to find my little willy. Yes, it's small and under 6 inches, but I don't care. I love how she makes that face, when the stench of my funk reaches her nose. AGAIN! She is getting paid to smell, touch, and lick me down there, and besides, I love my funky smell See I just want to lay there and do what pigs do: sqeal (oops, I am just learning how to speal)  everytime she makes me cum after 3 minutes.  For this warrants respect. Don't you agree my fellow brothers out there? BTW, thanks for all of the hi-fives out there. It's great to know that us men are kings of our castle and our women.





-- Modified on 8/20/2003 9:27:59 AM

and I sure as hell feel sorry for any woman who does. Lord be with her! lol

Lady Astor:  "Sir Winston [Churchill], were I married to you, I would poison your tea!"

Sir Winston Churchill:  "Madam, were I married to you, I would drink the damn tea!"

Generally .... I'd say you're a bit over reacting.   Everything said by THIS Pig was in CONTEXT.

But yeah ... we do rule the world.  Life is good.

Have you ladies run across a man that is really unhygienic?  Maybe 5% of my clients have had an off day (slightly bad breath or a mild case of body odor) and I just let it slide because I don't want to embarrass them. But for the most part I find the men take great care to present themselves well to me.  It is basic respect and very appreciated by yours truly.  

Please ladies, tell us your worst tales of dirty men .... you would think at the high end of this business when paying the prices they do they would be a better class of men. Than has been my experience anyway.

pig castle. A bit overeacting??? OOHHHhh did I hurt your PIG feelings?????????????????????????????? Remember, I  want to be just like YOU PIG.  You should know first hand experience what pigs do: lay in the mud all day long, and crap everywhere.







-- Modified on 8/20/2003 9:45:31 AM

I didn't even know a pig could even think, let alone pick..LOL

MistrezBitchInaHalf: "Do you want me to wipe your ass for you sweety?"

Megapig: "Oink. Oink. Oink."

-- Modified on 8/20/2003 10:15:05 AM

Megapig is one.

MizBitchNaHalf  CERTAINLY is one.

The only difference is Megapig isn't being a pig on one hand while pretending to be in the business of pleasing me on the other hand.

No, he is a pig pretending NOT to be one

TOO bad there is no drug out there that can change a pig into a man. Maybe the bitch in me, will develope it

-- Modified on 8/20/2003 12:29:17 PM

I would rather have a CHIA PET LOL

At least with a chia pet, you just water it and it grows. With Pig, you need to feed him, and he takes a crap every where, you gotta pick up his mess...(not a good pet to have, folks).

-- Modified on 8/20/2003 1:04:30 PM

Really thought I had, but I must have just skimmed some, maybe missed one or two.  I find that I overreacted, and worse yet, did a guilt by association thing based on superficial similarities with other posts that have really annoyed me in the past.  

I really only have one issue with anything you've said.  And that's on the grounds of relevance, not content.  You wrote"
"Trust me, I am at a time in my life right now, where I can afford (Mistrez does save her pennies) to be a little picky, like you men. So, when someone doesn't live up to my own fantasy of how it should be between 2 people in a room (NOTICE how I said 2 NOT 1), then I will kindly tell him to seek someone else."

On the face of it, fine.  But I'm concerned with the NORMS of a date.  What's the minimum acceptable level of service once a provider has decided to go through with the date.  What are the minimum decencies (beyond just the $$)that EVERY provider has the right to expect/demand from a client. I wrote about that in my original post.

You're far more fortunate than 95% of the women in this business to be able to do demand some extras.  That's great for you, but a little off the main point of the thread as I see it.

As for the anger, once I factor in what it is you're responding to, you were really rather restrained.

that I am running a business. I just choose to screen my prospective clients before I meet with them. If something doesn't sound to my ideal, yes I will tell them (politely, of course), to go and see someone else. I have money saved, so I can afford to take some time off here and there, and the loss of a prospective client, doesn't affect my "pocket book", so to speak (just being honest, and not coming off like a "bitch" lol). BUT, I do this because I want to be able to enjoy myself, as well in a session. I love sex very much, and if I feel that the feeling is not going to be reciporcated, then I will politely decline the offer, and walk away. It's one thing for him to show up and I lay there like a lump of cheese, and not participate at all. Which would not be very ideal for my business. I will say that I do get alot of clients wanting to meet, and some from word of mouth by their friends, and that reason is because I enjoy myself very much in the session. But, these men seem to want the interaction of another person, and those are the type of men that I generally seek.

Se ya when I get back from London!

So clean in fact that some people have them as pets in their home as opposed to a dog, or cat.

Pigs roll around in the mud only to protect their skin from getting sunburnt.

Human pigs on the other hand are a different story, and give their animal bretheren a very bad name.