London infers that her saying  she's  in high school is bad marketing : which of you would love to see a girl (over 18 of course)  who was still in high school? I had a BP  girl in Wilmington who was(she didn't advertise that). Turned me on!

she will have to prove that she is 18 if she needs my money...

A license would do the trick. She can black out her Name and Address. I need to see her pic and DOB..

I ain't going to jail for this shit...

The fact that a girl is still a high school student dosen't do anything for me. She will still look the same.

She was 18 and a 5th yr senior and he was over 30.  I admit she was hot as hell (9+) and I would have done her myself if given the chance.

This year I saw a provider who was 19 and looked 16.  It made me feel creepy and I never saw her again.

for money, that says it all right there, and geez...shocking. There is no way in hell most GIRLS not women (unless seriously fked up, or have daddy and abandonment issues) are turning tricks at 18. Give me a break. Sugar daddy site? Yea, maybe, but even that is not exactly the common trait among high school girls. We are not talking a real relationship that might form between a younger girl and an older man, but getting paid by the hour to fk guys you are not even attracted to at all in many cases. I would have tossed my cookies at 18 if I saw saggy balls, or ass hair.

I will say there could be exceptions, but her maturity level is clearly not there. All you care about is putting your c*ck in some hot, young thang, that you can't get for free, but what if she was your daughter? Would you want your buddies on TER writing reviews about her? Think on that a bit.

We don't even know if this girl is even legal, much less serious. I hate to relay the obvious here, but this board as well as many others are always being watched for scumbags who would pay someone underage. Another little tidbit for you. Just because she 'SAYS' she is 18 and you check her ID which will likely be fake, won't save you any time in PRISON. That's like you taking home an underage girl from a bar assuming she was 21...you're still going down.

Hmmm...did a guy with over 150 reviews not just get banned from here for pimping and seeing young girls? Yes, I think so. How do you suppose they found him to arrest him though? His name, face, address, etc. is all over the place as it should be and I hope they rape his ass repeatedly. Try thinking with your brain, and not that mindless thing you call a d*ck, for once.

So to answer your question, it is only great marketing for perverts who are stupid enough to fall for a sting operation. They figure if you get hot over a high school girl who claims to be 18, nothing will stop you from going younger...it's not rocket science. Best of luck. You forget so many here have cops in their family, and know how these things are set up. Personally, I hope they do bust a few scum bags.

I mean why not just go hang out in the damn school yard, and cruise for them? What's the difference?



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I don't know how I will feel about this..

I may get creeped out or be OK with it...  Who knows..

18 year old kids should be around others close to their ages.  NOT hanging around guys twice their ages (as in 36 year old guys).  Very few 18 year old kids have the maturity to run with guys twice their age...and most have no interest in doing so.  Certainly not for free!

So yea...it would be creepy.  But to each their own!

Dear London,  I thought you were just being mean to me.  Truth: I don't have a Mom and Dad,  I'm in a foster home.  My foster father died a few months ago and my foster Mom has told me (I've aged out,  you know.)  that I can stay till school's out,  but she's selling the house and moving to Florida to be near her daughter.  What am I going to do? This old guy in the neighborhood said I could make enough money this way to go to college (I can get grants and loans,  but still need to live) I've had Sex with four old guys since I turned 18 a few days ago.

Posted By: London Rayne

for money, that says it all right there, and geez...shocking. There is no way in hell most GIRLS not women (unless seriously fked up, or have daddy and abandonment issues) are turning tricks at 18. Give me a break. Sugar daddy site? Yea, maybe, but even that is not exactly the common trait among high school girls. We are not talking a real relationship that might form between a younger girl and an older man, but getting paid by the hour to fk guys you are not even attracted to at all in many cases. I would have tossed my cookies at 18 if I saw saggy balls, or ass hair.

I will say there could be exceptions, but her maturity level is clearly not there. All you care about is putting your c*ck in some hot, young thang, that you can't get for free, but what if she was your daughter? Would you want your buddies on TER writing reviews about her? Think on that a bit.

We don't even know if this girl is even legal, much less serious. I hate to relay the obvious here, but this board as well as many others are always being watched for scumbags who would pay someone underage. Another little tidbit for you. Just because she 'SAYS' she is 18 and you check her ID which will likely be fake, won't save you any time in PRISON. That's like you taking home an underage girl from a bar assuming she was 21...you're still going down.

Hmmm...did a guy with over 150 reviews not just get banned from here for pimping and seeing young girls? Yes, I think so. How do you suppose they found him to arrest him though? His name, face, address, etc. is all over the place as it should be and I hope they rape his ass repeatedly. Try thinking with your brain, and not that mindless thing you call a d*ck, for once.

So to answer your question, it is only great marketing for perverts who are stupid enough to fall for a sting operation. They figure if you get hot over a high school girl who claims to be 18, nothing will stop you from going younger...it's not rocket science. Best of luck. You forget so many here have cops in their family, and know how these things are set up. Personally, I hope they do bust a few scum bags.



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not about dating or having a relationship...

I am sure some people find it creepy, but then again some people even find what we do (pay for sex) as creepy - especially the super religious folks..

Everyone has their own moral compass

What the fuck are you talking about?

Posted By: will645

Dear London,  I thought you were just being mean to me.  Truth: I don't have a Mom and Dad,  I'm in a foster home.  My foster father died a few months ago and my foster Mom has told me (I've aged out,  you know.)  that I can stay till school's out,  but she's selling the house and moving to Florida to be near her daughter.  What am I going to do? This old guy in the neighborhood said I could make enough money this way to go to college (I can get grants and loans,  but still need to live) I've had Sex with four old guys since I turned 18 a few days ago.

Posted By: London Rayne

for money, that says it all right there, and geez...shocking. There is no way in hell most GIRLS not women (unless seriously fked up, or have daddy and abandonment issues) are turning tricks at 18. Give me a break. Sugar daddy site? Yea, maybe, but even that is not exactly the common trait among high school girls. We are not talking a real relationship that might form between a younger girl and an older man, but getting paid by the hour to fk guys you are not even attracted to at all in many cases. I would have tossed my cookies at 18 if I saw saggy balls, or ass hair.

I will say there could be exceptions, but her maturity level is clearly not there. All you care about is putting your c*ck in some hot, young thang, that you can't get for free, but what if she was your daughter? Would you want your buddies on TER writing reviews about her? Think on that a bit.

We don't even know if this girl is even legal, much less serious. I hate to relay the obvious here, but this board as well as many others are always being watched for scumbags who would pay someone underage. Another little tidbit for you. Just because she 'SAYS' she is 18 and you check her ID which will likely be fake, won't save you any time in PRISON. That's like you taking home an underage girl from a bar assuming she was 21...you're still going down.

Hmmm...did a guy with over 150 reviews not just get banned from here for pimping and seeing young girls? Yes, I think so. How do you suppose they found him to arrest him though? His name, face, address, etc. is all over the place as it should be and I hope they rape his ass repeatedly. Try thinking with your brain, and not that mindless thing you call a d*ck, for once.

So to answer your question, it is only great marketing for perverts who are stupid enough to fall for a sting operation. They figure if you get hot over a high school girl who claims to be 18, nothing will stop you from going younger...it's not rocket science. Best of luck. You forget so many here have cops in their family, and know how these things are set up. Personally, I hope they do bust a few scum bags.



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As many others like to do...but

I agree 110% with BiB and LR and many of the hookers and johns that I know who also don't want to see young kids in P4P.  Sorry CurlyQ...but fucking an 18 year old kid is just plain wrong.  I don't subscribe that the legal age is 18 to avoid rape charges (other areas it is even lower).  Kids that age have NO fucking clue as to what this is all about.  That is my opinion only.

So if others "get off" on jail bait...go for it.  

I don't...and find it sad to think that young girls are "forced" into submission.  And honestly...if you don't think that fucking a young kid will have long term effects...talk with some of the hookers here that indeed HAD to go through it.

Talk about pathetic stories  

What the fuck is this?!?!

Posted By: will645

Dear London,  I thought you were just being mean to me.  Truth: I don't have a Mom and Dad,  I'm in a foster home.  My foster father died a few months ago and my foster Mom has told me (I've aged out,  you know.)  that I can stay till school's out,  but she's selling the house and moving to Florida to be near her daughter.  What am I going to do? This old guy in the neighborhood said I could make enough money this way to go to college (I can get grants and loans,  but still need to live) I've had Sex with four old guys since I turned 18 a few days ago.

Posted By: London Rayne

for money, that says it all right there, and geez...shocking. There is no way in hell most GIRLS not women (unless seriously fked up, or have daddy and abandonment issues) are turning tricks at 18. Give me a break. Sugar daddy site? Yea, maybe, but even that is not exactly the common trait among high school girls. We are not talking a real relationship that might form between a younger girl and an older man, but getting paid by the hour to fk guys you are not even attracted to at all in many cases. I would have tossed my cookies at 18 if I saw saggy balls, or ass hair.

I will say there could be exceptions, but her maturity level is clearly not there. All you care about is putting your c*ck in some hot, young thang, that you can't get for free, but what if she was your daughter? Would you want your buddies on TER writing reviews about her? Think on that a bit.

We don't even know if this girl is even legal, much less serious. I hate to relay the obvious here, but this board as well as many others are always being watched for scumbags who would pay someone underage. Another little tidbit for you. Just because she 'SAYS' she is 18 and you check her ID which will likely be fake, won't save you any time in PRISON. That's like you taking home an underage girl from a bar assuming she was 21...you're still going down.

Hmmm...did a guy with over 150 reviews not just get banned from here for pimping and seeing young girls? Yes, I think so. How do you suppose they found him to arrest him though? His name, face, address, etc. is all over the place as it should be and I hope they rape his ass repeatedly. Try thinking with your brain, and not that mindless thing you call a d*ck, for once.

So to answer your question, it is only great marketing for perverts who are stupid enough to fall for a sting operation. They figure if you get hot over a high school girl who claims to be 18, nothing will stop you from going younger...it's not rocket science. Best of luck. You forget so many here have cops in their family, and know how these things are set up. Personally, I hope they do bust a few scum bags.



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So again, do you think a girl raised in that kind of environment without loving parents, should be doing this, and do you even care as long as you get off? Did we not just have a thread about a girl breaking down crying, and the guy still fked her knowing she was not enjoying a single second of it? Hey...do what you want, but get real. It's beyond disgusting to take advantage of someone you KNOW is not mature enough to handle it. What do most guys care though..it's not your daughter, but it could be.

Women like her, my heart goes out to because they are going to be seriously taken advantage of, maybe even raped, if not already. Some older guy in the area told her she could make money by being a whore? Wow...he's father of the year.

Is this a PM?  Is this an email?

Are you the young kid?  Just turned 18 with reviews going back to 2007?

Is this a drunken post that needs to get pulled?

Or is this the email your 18 y/o hooker pal asked you to post on her behalf?  If so...you are one seriously sick asswipe.  Tell your hooker pal to get her own fucking account here...if she even exists.  And I sure hope that she doesn't...and you're just the sick twisted muthfucka you appear to be!

A lot of younger girls do want to fuck older guys..Why you ask?

Because older guys have more cash. Now he doesn't have to have a 7 figure salary, but they can treat girls well. Take them to nice restaurants and to trips and whatnot

Young guys lack maturity. Hey ask me. I was 20-22 not too long ago.. And I do still lack maturity that some of you guys have. Girls on the other hand mature a lot faster.. 18 yr old girl is lot more mature than a 20-21 yr old guy...  So you will see lot of cases where girls these days are leading on a mature guy..

Just my take...

Yes, many younger girls want to fk older guys THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO! As in, not as a damn hooker! When I was 18, my first real BF was 34, but guess what...I fkin loved him! Add to that, I was a bartender so it's not like he picked me up at recess. I was having sex long before that, with once again...guys I was attracted to, not guys who bought me! That is the clear cut difference you are missing. WANTING to do something and HAVING to do something, are not the same thing. You are basically saying you would fk a desperate woman you knew had no other options? Regardless of age, that's what we are addressing. A woman can be 40 and not be mentally capable of being an escort....not just picking on the younger ones. I have a friend who started this at 20, and she is more mature than I am. That is the key word...mature!

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Young and dumb is a turn off for me. Now I will say if I see an aesthetically pleasing female of any age (built like a Woman). She will definitely catch my eye, that dosen't mean I feel the desire to fuck her.

Yes some 18 year olds are attractive to look at, but they wont be near as fun in bed as a woman a little older.

into prostitution. For the sake of this thread, I assumed that she was doing this willingly.

OP never said anything about forced prostitution..

I'm not underage,  I'm 18. Look at all the 18 yr old girls doing Porn... You guys don't  watch I guess. Leave me alone. I got an ad on  BP under another  name.  We'll see. I'm hot.  I got beautiful tits somma  you olé ladies wd  die for. Red hair and a nice little  triangle of pubes to match. I can do GFE with a seventy yr old and make him think he's Brad Pitt. I done a three some with a guys mom and dad... I'm mature for my age and I'm gonna make money and go to college  and be important someday.  I won't be hanging around somewhere like this board.  Fuck yall!!

You and Will645 are full of shit. You two are probably the same buffoons with all the other multiple handles. Yall are pathetic.

Dear Ms. Rayne:
That is why I was asking you those questions in an earlier post. I was inquiring about that because as an agency owner you would be extremely interested if a prospective employee would have the psychological necessities to cope and deal with issues that would certainly be part and parcel of the business. Also I wonder at this stage are you also looking at signs of dependency and other things that really could alter here judgement as time goes on. I am just wondering if this was legal,would you have an in house mental health person on your staff for those who might need it?

Really!  This girl needs help and this is what she gets?  You're  as bad as the guy taking advantage  of her offer.  At least she gets$$$ and maybe some concern from him.  All she gets from you is...... I don't  know.

Boy, B_in_B,  takes a big man to call an 18 yr old girl a witch and tell her Fuck U. When did you stop beating your wife? So these smart mature hookers fuck U for money?  They need help not me.

I found just the asswipe for you

Here you go..maybe all of you can eventually bend over...grab your cankles and tell Bubba thanks for not using lube!

Maybe you and zangari should just do the circle jerk by yourselves?

Which of you came up with the brown envelope plaidskirthookersugarbaby?  Fucking trolls  LOL

your handle should have been ChgoCIA and you should be proud of your detective work for uncovering these idiots. A little light comes on and watch the roaches go scrambling. 18 scares me so much I dont see ANY girl whose TER profiles say 18-21. You just took out two jack wipes with one post. Kinda like converrting that 7-10 split in bowling. Thats good work out of you today.

I get the fantasy age play, I really do.

But when I think about women under the age of twenty in the business I get really skeeved out.

I look at some of these agencies cranking out 18, 19 year olds like puppy mills and then I have a vision of all of the 60+ y.o. men lining up to see them, clients who are the bad sort with years of experience mind fucking them and these girls being booked 8 deep a day before they have a grasp of the consequences of being involved in sex work and I really find it all very sad.

All I have to say is fathers be good to your daughters because when the world gets ahold of them...it could be ugly.

I would say that if you want to sleep with an 18 or 19 year old do it the old fashioned way- find a sugar baby or even better a total civilian whose mind isn't getting warped by volume of the business that she is really incapable of handling without incurring trauma/damage in this lifestyle.
There are always younger women who are smart and sexual, capable and mature beyond their years so I'm not talking about those exceptions.

Young girls  are going to have sex and young women are always going to be attracted to older men so find a nice one to play with and treat her kindly.

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You are a very bright lady. It is not hard to find a young sugar baby and it is so rewarding to help with their success. Been there and hope to be there a gain

Live in stripper world.  Gals in most places can strip @ 18!  Freaks me out a tad as that is just too close to illegal.  First thing I do when approached by a new stripper is offer to buy them a drink.  Most clubs are very careful about seving under age patrons (whether they work there or are a customer).  If they refuse to serve her, I walk away.  Why? Cause in the back I progress to a sexual encounter about 40% of the time.  I really don't  need an encounter with an underage gal!  And lets face it, if she will provide for me, she will provide for others - in or out of the club.

So are there gals who provide who are underage?!  yes there are.  and I suspect there are  more than even I think.  As to any daughter I might have, who would be under 18, it would be a sad day if I caught her.  very sad indeed.  While I have nothing against the sex industry, I would wish my daughter (or for that matter any woman) to have a true romantic encounter before she make any decision about the sex industry - and I honestly believe that for most, that can only happen after she is about 19 or 20;  just need some emotional maturity which cannot be found in a 13-18 yr old female (or for that matter male).

drivers license it says "1994" for her birth year and that she didn't doctor it up by using a crayon. And aren't you going to be so dissapointed when she ncns on you only to find out she went to Prom that night?

If you start now Zancreeper, you have just enough time to learn how to drive a limo so you can take her and the team's quarterback to and fro. But no worries. We'll find another 18 year old off the football team for you. Maybe a "tight" end. And you can be his "wide" receiver.

In any event, they all need to be back by midnight, for afterall, they're just kids, ya know?

Just curious  LOL

but you should consider the advice of others who have been there, done that (at any age). There is a whole lot you don't know, but will as time goes on. People aren't here attacking you, they just know better and are truly trying to help you.

Beyond my personal beliefs on this matter, you seriously need to grow up because you will not get very far with the lack of maturity. You also need to soak in all the newbie 101 so as to not find yourself in a dangerous situation (LE or crazy men who will come out of the wood work) Yeah, I am sure very nice men will call you but there will always be the screwed up ones who will as well (no matter what age you are, they are out there). IMHO I do not think you are ready for all the ups and downs of this. I am just waiting for a post from you about the pimps contacting you.

I have always been extremely mature (even as a child) but very few people are like that. I came into this when I was 23 and knew how I felt/what to do in certain situations. I took the time to know what I was getting into. There is far more than money in this and to be successful, you need to be able to connect with others, not just the $$$. Right now, I see that this is exciting for you, especially the money part. Take the time to think of all the other stuff involved please. If this is still for you, then so be it, but take the time to know what you want.

Side note, When I have kids I will seriously flip out if my 18 year old was trying to do this and I sure the hell will not be so nice to the men who call her up... but what else would a mom do, right?

It Ain't Happenin'!! I have No interest in an 18 yr old. I decided at the beginning I won't see providers younger than 21. So far the youngest I've seen was 23. It's creepy. Here's how creepy it is. My daughter could be the 18 yr old girls mother. All the other reasons the others have mentioned for not seeing an 18 yr old are valid, her maturity, etc. But it's just creepy. I don't care how hot she is. She has no business doing this.

You are fooling no one here.

Maybe he should spend a few bucks on the dentist...when he gets his next public aid check?

The scenarios aren't comparable in any way.

Growing up, my best friend advertised as 18 yrs old on a popular ad site that now requires ID. She was 14 yrs old working for a pimp. That was her source of income (and his), so she couldn't turn away older (quite possibly pedophiles) men. Ick.

I do think 18 yr. olds should try out college before turning tricks, but also it's important to beware that not all girls who say they're or look 18 yrs. old are actually 18.

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For those who find P4P with an 18-year-old morally reprehensible, then you need to do the following:

P411 accepts 18 year old providers, so you need to drop off of P411.  

The major SD/SB sites accept 18 year old SBs, so you need to drop off of those sites.

TER & other review sites accept 18 year old providers, so you need to drop off all of those sites.

The good news: the TER board will now be free of these self-righteous assholes.  --z  

If you don't drink.. (For e.g. me.. I stopped drinking alcohol altogether in 2010.) do you stop eating at restaurants who serve alcohol?

C'MON dude...

soul, just plain stupid, so all the best. Just do the board a favor..when you're robbed, raped, and likely to pick up about 20 pimps because of your obvious naive bs, don't post an alert. I bet you have no clue what screening is or how to do it, do you? Do you even care what nasty thing walks through that door? You've got an ad on BP...bravo! I am sure that will bring the gents in, with a dozen references that all check out.

I call bullshit that you go to any Catholic School as well, because by 10, I could write better English than you. You sound like you'll make a perfect little hooker to guys with zero standards, but I guess it takes all kinds. It's obvious you are seriously damaged, but guys love that. You are easy to manipulate and get free ass from. All I can suggest is get a clue before you end up DEAD! You are the exact type of naive girl that winds up missing because she needed money so bad, that she believed what every man said. I feel sorry for you.

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olds. Fuck them if you want and hope you don't get popped, but know you still might be fucking a 14 yr old.

The more you post....

The more the gals know about your pedophiliac tendencies.

Extremely scary in this world of P4P.  You have made it to the lowest rung of human existence.

Congratulations you sick bastard!

secondly, some of the attitudes from [some] men on this thread are...well...more than a little disturbing.

I get the plaid skirt fantasy thing. But 18 yr old girls are typically not terribly emotionally, or intellectually mature.

And, in the context of P4P$, I think it's important to distinguish between 'girls' (especially very young girls who may be available to men, for $, for some very wrong reasons),  and grown 'women' who have developed an adequate amount of emotion/intellectual maturity to have entered into sex work as a conscious choice.

And mature, grown men are supposed to understand the difference. And behave accordingly---even if that means not fucking the barely past teenage girl your cock is saluting.

LR:  You have every right to make moral choices.  But moral choices have consequences.  Since you  oppose abortion. you wouldn't support an abortion clinic.

You believe P4P with an 18 year old is immoral.  That's another moral choice you have every right to make.  But TER is a site that allows 18 year olds to engage in P4P.  So your issue isn't just with me.   You keep posting on TER--why are you doing that?  Again, moral choices have consequences.   --z

Seems to be working well.

Keep on posting dirtbag.  You just keep digging that hole to China.

Gotta go and return a few more PM's from some gals that you'be got doing extra screening.  That's a good thing.

I wouldn't want any gal to mistakenly end up in a room with you.

ours, but his not so much!

EXPOSE you to the gals.  Look up what expose means moron.

The more you post here the more I can direct the gals to your insane posts.

A few of them have shared those emails you sent them looking for sessions.  Might want to stop telling them that you're zangari.  But you won't and I'll keep on showing these gals just what you are really into.

None find pedophilia a turn on!

And, some just after they graduate. But, generally speaking, 18 yr olds have either graduated HS, or  they're just about to graduate HS (hopefully, anyway...lol).

What a weird hair to split.

I don't think it is right for a guy to fk a woman of ANY age who is obviously not capable of making a conscious decision that is not based out of desperation. That is ALL I have said. So no, morals have nothing to do with it. Like you said, you can't put an age or morality because some women at 20 are more mature and better equipped to handle certain things, than women twice their age...rare, but it happens.

Let me ask you this...would you fk a provider who was mentally retarded? Well, if a person has been abused, they are in fact lacking the mental and emotional stability, and many times act out of desperation, so just because she does not have a form of serious retardation, does not mean her mind is altogether right. You are still taking advantage of someone you know is probably crying after you leave or throwing up.

It's funny, but so many of you bad mouthed the women in the American Courtesans video saying "I would never want to be with a woman I know has been through so much, and came here out of desperation," yet that's exactly what is being portrayed in this case. A bit of a contradiction. Just because you don't "see it," does not mean it's not there. I guess for some, being blind is what helps them sleep at night.

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you are about to fk has issues, you should walk. Simple as that. You have to admit that some men know, and simply don't give a fk. They don't care if a girl has to fk 2 guys a day or 10, as long as they get their nut for as cheap as possible, and stealing someone's innocence is actually the goal for many. It is as if some feel more like a man by doing that.

Actually, most high school seniors are 18. I was one of about 20 students out of my graduating class of over 400 that was still 17 when I graduated, as my b-day is in the summer.

but your title post says that an 18 year old girl shouldn't be in high school, and it just isn't true.

I've been a high school coach for 20 years or so. Many of my athletes are 18. Not the majority, but not just a couple, either. Many.

Many kids start kindergarten at 6, or almost six, which makes them starting their senior year at 18, or almost 18. And kids who start kindergarten at age 5, and have a birthday before June of the next year, will turn 18 while they are a senior. Many kids stay back a year, even two. I've had exchange students that need to repeat a year. Many private high schools have a "13th grade" which is essentially prep school, but it's still "high school".

There are lots of reasons why a high school senior will be 18.

That doesn't change the fact that this poster is a fake. Phony. Liar. Poser. Dirty rotten low-down bush-whackin' side winder. She's not real, and it's pretty unlikely she's an 18 year old girl at all. Probably a big fat 55 year old disability-retired state worker with big brown warts on his face and neck, 4 teeth, and a penis that he can't find underneath the belly and buried in the hair unless it gets hard when he gets a million replies to his phony post. I'm just guessing....