whose opinion on experiences and the biz do you value more? A provider or another hobbiest?

I raise this question due to some very interesting e-mails I have recieved since my retirment. As alot of my gents know, I have done extensive networking for the last 3 years. I have been Sysop of a private group, worked with many new ladies and hobbiests in order to help them get the best out of their experiences.

What I have learned the hard way, is that no matter whether I like someone personally or not, that has not a damn thing to do with whether they are trustworthy as a provider or hobbiest.

I have many gents tell me they respect my opinion while others have sent me e-mails saying my opinion is not worth the time it takes to write it out because I have retired. So would you take the opinion of someone who has tried hard to be a good provider and be honest with information, or from another gentleman, not knowing anything about him other than his board persona and the way he writes reviews?

I guess for me personally it would really depend on the person individually and how they conduct themselves. I saw a thread on another board recently about what constituted a "bad client" Some ladies complained that the gent was too graphic and kinda weird, while others who had seen him had no problems. He hadn't ripped anyone off or hurt anyone, he was just a bit twisted. And we must remeber in this realm, twisted is a relative term. I would probably not trust his judgement based on the fact that his view of the hobby is a bit over the edge as far as Im concerned and he most likely has a different criteria when it comes to seeing ladies. I also would likely not recommend some of the ladies who thought he was a "bad client" because they perceived him one way without ever meeting him. Jumping to conclusions will get you into trouble everytime.

So I guess Im wondering if there is a line drawn for people as to whose opinion they will trust and if it is as clear cut as the girls or the guys?


xoxo
Lass

good question. kinda like: if you need advice on fixing your car who would you ask: the driver or the mechanic?  

but there are certain things regarding which the word of the hobbyist reigns supreme in my book. but let's not get into that for the moment  




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There are a number of things to take into consideration.

I will generally take the word of an escort that I know over that of someone that I don't. There are certain gents that I will read the reviews that they write and give them more weight than someone that posts with no reviews.

Much as in real life, if I don't know you, I regard your opinion, your thoughts with a little skepticism and never will I judge someone. I also do not like to be dragged into gossipy things, and try to look at all sides prior to jumping in.  SOmetimes I do leap a little quick and make an ass of myself though.

Okay, now you can tell me, who's calling me weird this week? Who, me paranoid??? LOL

There are some providers I trust and then some hobbyists.

People who tend to give a reasoned response on the board tend to be the ones I trust even if I disagree with their opinion.  There are a fair amount of people on the board who always appear to be in attack mode or don't really look at the question answered.  A lot of the hobbyists i respect aren't all that active and some in fact don't hobby at all.

Despite our conceit only a small fraction of providers and hobbyists even know what TER is or look at the boards.  The providers may know about the reviews but don't read the boards.  My ATF hasn't had a review on the board since last year and I know she is extremely active. I suppose my point is that the people who actively participate on the boards tend to be  the zealots and you have to be careful with zealots because they don't always tolerate other peoples ideas and opinions.

My .02 cents

I believe that it doesn't matter if its a provider or client.  Depends on what type of info. your looking for and its always good to get all the info. you can because its up to you to sort it out and make your decision anyway.   Just follow your instincts and go in with a good mind but remember YMMV.  Nobody knows how people react to each other until you meet and hope all goes well.  

Its hard to trust people especially with all the F*&%&ed up shit that we see around us everyday.  


                                 Buh Bye,

                                 jammers

Providers have hidden agendas from time to time.   Hobbyists have agendas so plain ... they can often be seen from space.

The good news is .... as far as all of it is concerned .. no one really cares, it's not likely to change, and it probably doesn't matter anyway.

BUT ... when in doubt ... Always trust Your PIG.  

This is a pretty grey area. I can't see anyone saying cut and dried that they believe only the ladys or only the gents that see them. It really depends on each individual situation and the people involved at the time.

  I have seen ladys who were far more intelligent and level headed then i am, and i have see some that were the reasons blonde jokes were created. Yet, at times the airheads have had much better judgement then the smart ones.

  I have never met a fellow hobbyist in person, but i would imagine it's pretty much the same scenario. These boards are a good example. Some of the posters here, both ladys and gentlemen, have a very good grasp of what's going on, are well written and educated. They are good at explaining themselves and their opinions without telling you that your wrong even though they don't agree with you. Then, on the other end of the spectrum, there are those like the ones that end up in the TER Mailbag board.

  Naturally, those that carry themselves well and appear to be honest in their views will be more likely to be respected and believed, weather you agree with them or not, then the ones that simply yell and scream. No matter their gender.    

   

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You really have to have a common point of reference before you can discuss this hobby.  I like various types of music. When I'm looking for info on new hard rock bands I don't call my friend who listens to Jazz.  Similarly I can't talk to the guys at the Chevrolet Dealership about the new Chrysler Crossfire (they don't really know about it and they have a competing interest as well)  So I think it would be very difficult to rely on current providers for references in their region.  

For me I'm looking for 3 things - in this order: looks, performance, menu.  For an honest opinion on looks I'll talk to other hobbyists who share the same taste I do, and I'll talk to retired girls who have met the same people I have.
 
You're from LV, so you may have met Sierra. If I say that she is an ATF of mine and I think someone else may look like her and you have met them both and confirm that this other girl does look like Sierra I will be very happy. I find that women are much more brutally honest about appearance than men.  

But after we get past the looks and I need to learn about menu and performance then I'm left to rely on reviews by reputable guys, and VERY BI girls.  You can't just rely on one source. Which is why research can take 2 months on any given city.