so i contact this online escort. she asks for references, i tell her well i have many TER white list and P411 Okays - her response " I prefer linkedin"
are you kidding me !?!?!? i mean ok if a guy had zero escort references then maybe but not really. do guys really give out personal real info to girls they don't even know yet ??? i mean even when i was single i used an alias.
ok, to any ladies out there who require linkedin, no problem but please first provide me your real name, where you work during the day. the phone number your family uses and home address. then fine
We have the advantage of knowing a lot about the provider before we contact them (assuming we are seeing reviewed ladies and are making use of the available databases). They have no idea who is on the other end of the phone. We all should understand their need for safety requires screening. There have been many threads on these boards over the years pointing out many very good reasons that TER Whitelists and P411 OKs are not, of themselves, sufficient. I am single and not subject to blackmail. So I routinely give my real name, address, and employment information when asking for an appointment with someone new to me. I have my own protocols for my safety. I take it seriously and (so far) my approach has worked for me for over 10 years.
There's a small number of players here who, because they are self-employed, retired, independently wealthy, etc., have no concerns about giving out personal information. But the rest of us have jobs, SOs, etc. that give us pause. That's where references come in.
We all acknowledge every lady's need for security. But it ain't all one-sided. Even with TER there are guys who get ripped off and threatened. And a client doesn't know whether on the other side of the door stands a sweet young thing or a pimp. Shit happens. Granted it is much more likely that a client will just get disappointed rather than hurt, but the risk is not zero.
Bottom line, a lady should ask for whatever she thinks she needs. But if it's more than a reference, I ain't giving it. I've passed on plenty of beautiful women on that basis. And have been blessed to see many more.
Women are more likely to face physical harm, or worse. Men have a lot more at stake financially and career wise (divorce if spouse finds out, loss of job, etc.).
Put yourself in her shoes. She needs some sort of leverage if things go wrong, or at least to make a guy think twice before causing her harm or ripping her off. Also, we are in an illegal activity, so the moral compass isn't always pointing North. Guys will share their P411 ID with their buddies (which I would never do, but it happens), or fake TER ID (fake reviews, we talk a lot about it here). The vast majority of us don't do that, but it only takes one.
There are plenty of providers who are not that invasive and P411 is a good platform to get dates w/o all the hassles of verification. I'm also making an educated guess that those providers who require LinkedIN, business e-mail, etc, have been ripped off before or physically harmed.
Bottom line is if you don't like it, don't do it and move on.
I'm just here to post dumb posts... kind of like this one. there was a time when I was better known here and I could just said, I'm Robertini from TER. I write the stupid posts. But I don't think that would work anymore since there are not even that many girls participating on the site anymore. Like they are not participating for fun and there is not chat and stuff like that. But if I had to give them my info that's no problem either since I got nothing to hide and/or nothing to lose.
what did the guy who jumped off the building say as he passed the 5th floor ......... so far so good. i had seen over a 100 ladies and then one decided to "expose me" for cancelling a meeting. fortunately i was able to deal with that. it only takes one crazy girl. and if you have seen the crazy hot matrix you are going to run into one sooner or later. ...
not certain what having a real name is anyway. say the guy abuses you, you are going to the police and say what ? this guy hit me because as a hooker i deserved more respect ? yeah right. there is a reason TER / P411 and perhaps most importantly the online Black Lists the girls share exist.
besides a girl is far more likely to get into a car accident than run into an abusive TER / P411 member. absolutely girls should be careful but asking for personal info is not appropriate.
but then again I have also been "outed" by more than one "well reviewed TER provider" which I guess kind of cancels out all those times where nothing happened.
The good news of course is that I am already "out" so the attempt to ruin my life caused me no actual harm, but that doesn't mean the cunt/s didn't try to ruin my life simply because she didn't like the things I said on this very board.
My advice to anyone with anything to lose by being outed is DON'T DO IT!!!. it only takes one BSC cunt to ruin your life over something as simple as making fun of her on a supposed anonymous fuck board, giving her a review a point or two below what she thinks she deserves or showing up late to an appointment. With verification services like P 411 around, there are MUCH better options than providing blackmail information to someone who might actually use it against you.
Provider: Fake name, fake number, no personal info, etc
Provider to client: I need your real name, real phone number (no hobby phone or internet number), LinkedIn, driver's license, work email, etc.
I reached out to a well known provider some years ago through P411, i have a decent amount of Okay's and she still needed work/personal info etc. I guess it's worth it if she is a must see, and sadly times are hard as far as quality in some areas but in general during these times.
The best part is that now in many states, if a provider is busted, she can claim behind human trafficking, her name won't be announced and she might have to attend some workshops.
The Johns who are busted? Oh fuggrdaboutit your name and mugshot will be in the local paper for all to see.
Giving your linkedin to someone in an age where one social media post with no evidence can easily derail multiple careers, sounds like career suicide to me. If, of course, one has a a career.
Dude, you said exactly what I was thinking. Giving my employment information info to a person who is about to become a partner in crime? Bad idea. Why not just give her my wife's cell number while I'm at it? Fuck that and move on.
I am not going to divulge my personal info especially if I reach out through P411. I encourage all providers I have not visited to go ahead and verify my references. This has never been an issue though, but if it becomes one I will gladly move on. Hookers are just like any other commodity; there are great ones, good ones, fair ones, and awful ones. I am pleased to state that I usually have indulged with the great and good ones. They don’t pry into my private life, and it is appropriate for me to return the favor.
actually used their own LinkedIn profiles for procuring clients. I feel like i saw more recent spate of news on this resurfacing, but quick search only brought up this 2018 article from India (linked to this post). Lol that the providers at one time could even list prostitution as one of their "skills" xoxo "No Resume Required Kacy TGirl"
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