I think I'm a good hobbyist. I'm very respectful and I follow protocol. There was a well reviewed top notch lady visiting my city, saw her add on P411. I scheduled well ahead of the appointment, 3 weeks. When I submitted my appointment request I gave all of my screening info, I'm P411, Date Check, whitelisted and RS2K. She sent me a confirmation that I passed screening and that we were good to go. She told me she would contact me the day before and confirm and give the location and her phone number (this is SOP). She sent me an email the day before, I promptly confirmed, she promptly sent her location and number and told me to call when I got there for the room number. The date was scheduled for 7pm and at 4:13pm I got an email from P411 saying that she had viewed my profile. So I get home from work at 5:30pm showered, shaved and brushed my teeth and off I went to her location (about a 40 minute drive from home). I got there early and was just going to hang out in the parking lot and wait. I like to be early so I don't have traffic problems that will make me late, I appreciate that the girls time is very important and valuable. So I break out my IPad to check a few emails while I wait, and there's an email from her time stamped 6:15 saying sorry but I need to cancel. I don't understand? I followed all protocol to a T and at no point did I say anything in any email that could be remotely taken as disrespectful.
So my question to you ladies is what could be the reason for her to cancel and especially considering that she looked at my P411 profile at 4:13pm, why wouldn't she just cancel then? I asked her these questions in an email but of course got no response, and I still haven't. I know I'm a good client, I've been told by other providers and besides this would have been our first meeting. So now I'm super horny, been looking forward to this all week and now I can't get verified with anyone else for that evening. Again, I don't understand and I'm looking for some possible reasons for her to cancel last minute.
I appreciate your response if you are so inclined.
Of course I have no idea and unless you get an answer from her, all you're going to get from here is speculation...but it could be that it had nothing to do with you and something happened on her end. Sucks, but it does happen. And crappy that you were inconvenienced, but trust me, we get cancelled on WAY more than the men...I have only cancelled once, with several hours notice, because I woke up with a terrible neck spasm. It's a body...it has a mind of it's own...sometimes we can't predict what nature will do. Maybe the appointment prior to yours worked her into the mattress? That's why I try to stick to one client per day at my highest volume Ladies on tour are generally seeing several clients a day.
Yes, cancelations happen for various reasons and shouldn't necessarily be a big deal. BUT, this meet was planned 3 weeks in advance. As one who also tends to plan in advance I can tell you that the guy was very invested in this meet!
It was inexcusable for her to cancel at the last minute and then cut all communication. I could maybe give her a pass if she told him that there was a problem with his past even though SHE should have done her homework sooner. ANY last minute cancelation should include an explanation, an apology, and some of offer to make things right!
It's simple common courtousy that any good provider should recognize.
So I don't get the "problem with my past" scenario. I have never had one problem with any provider so how could she have had a problem with my past and I'm verified on every site I know of. I do feel I'm too forgiving, and I wasn't so forgiving that night, I contemplated writing a bad review but thought better of it as this is her lively hood and I don't want to mess with that for anyone. What could have freaked her out about my P411 account? Especially considering that's how I booked.
And thank you all for your time with your responses.
It really doesn't matter. She was just plain rude & unproffessional.
There has been some recent scuttlebut about problems with P411 releasing personal info. It may be that simply scared her off. Again, that doesn't give her a free pass to behave badly.
I'm NOT being forgiving...I'm saying it is shitty...AND I'm saying it happens to us about 20-30% of the time. You are lucky women are more reliable than men...you would never stand for the shit we put up with, it's ridonkulous. AND, I would never do that...if I have a legitimate problem I cancel as soon as possible WITH explanation and extreme effort to make it right as soon as possible...as I mentioned, I've only cancelled ONCE and it was an extreme situation. I don't make appointments to break them...I put a lot of effort in BEFORE I make the date. last minute cancellation on either side is inexcusable in my book and anyone who does it to me does not ever see me again...unless I know them very well and there was a very reasonable explanation. I was ONLY offering up some possible ideas on why...without enough context really, like I said it's all speculation and in no way am I condoning what she did by suggesting WHY she might have. I think you should re-read my first post.
...Providers are people who have lives and emergencies just like everyone else.
What if her kid got sick or some other family emergency? What if she got sick? What if her car was towed and she had to go get it out?
Sometimes these things just happen. You did everything right, so I highly doubt this was about you. Don't be too hard on yourself. I hope that you were still able to have a good evening!
Thank you both for your response and no I didn't have a good evening. It was too late at that point to get verified and I don't do Back Page (although I considered it for a few moments because I was so horny). I was thinking it over and wondered if perhaps her previous client had asked to extend, I would hope that's not the case because that would be pretty crappy. I told her when I requested the date 3 weeks prior that I was flexible with the time of the date as long as it was after 7pm as I couldn't get there from work until then. I don't want to sound like I'm whining here, I was able to see a regular the next day, but it's an insult to get stood up when I'm paying for it. I'm not an attractive man, 49 years old and 20 lbs. overweight with greying hair, so if it weren't for the hobby I'd have to settle for someone I'm not attracted to.
Thanks again for your responses, much appreciated.
Why do some guys take things personal when it has nothing to do with them ?
I met her at 4:20 for our first hour meeting . At 5:30 she said we were soul mates . By 6 pm we were starving for food . I took her to dinner , we drank too much .
I don't enjoy answering "why" when I'm sober . I know no one who likes being questioned when they are hung over .
Posted By: russbbj
I think I'm a good hobbyist. I'm very respectful and I follow protocol. There was a well reviewed top notch lady visiting my city, saw her add on P411. I scheduled well ahead of the appointment, 3 weeks. When I submitted my appointment request I gave all of my screening info, I'm P411, Date Check, whitelisted and RS2K. She sent me a confirmation that I passed screening and that we were good to go. She told me she would contact me the day before and confirm and give the location and her phone number (this is SOP). She sent me an email the day before, I promptly confirmed, she promptly sent her location and number and told me to call when I got there for the room number. The date was scheduled for 7pm and at 4:13pm I got an email from P411 saying that she had viewed my profile. So I get home from work at 5:30pm showered, shaved and brushed my teeth and off I went to her location (about a 40 minute drive from home). I got there early and was just going to hang out in the parking lot and wait. I like to be early so I don't have traffic problems that will make me late, I appreciate that the girls time is very important and valuable. So I break out my IPad to check a few emails while I wait, and there's an email from her time stamped 6:15 saying sorry but I need to cancel. I don't understand? I followed all protocol to a T and at no point did I say anything in any email that could be remotely taken as disrespectful.
So my question to you ladies is what could be the reason for her to cancel and especially considering that she looked at my P411 profile at 4:13pm, why wouldn't she just cancel then? I asked her these questions in an email but of course got no response, and I still haven't. I know I'm a good client, I've been told by other providers and besides this would have been our first meeting. So now I'm super horny, been looking forward to this all week and now I can't get verified with anyone else for that evening. Again, I don't understand and I'm looking for some possible reasons for her to cancel last minute.
I appreciate your response if you are so inclined.
The two of you belong together, neither of you has any respect for another's time and you enabled her to blow off a standing appointment. Hope you two live happily ever after.
Polish, I think this guy was being sarcastic as he doesn't even know what city I'm in and I didn't say who she is so there wouldn't be any way for him know who I'm referring to. I didn't include her name, as even though it was very disrespectful of her to stand me up, It would not benefit me in any way to give her a bad name (she is a very well reviewed provider). I considered writing a bad review for her for about 1 minute and then came to the realization that this is her lively hood and I was just briefly inconvenienced by her standing me up last minute.
If you wouldn't do the same thing when a hot babe offered , you must not be a jack ass . -D-D
Posted By: Polish_Pirate
The two of you belong together, neither of you has any respect for another's time and you enabled her to blow off a standing appointment. Hope you two live happily ever after.
one or more of the women you saw, she took issue with. Problem is, she should have been more detailed in her initial screening before she accepted a date and wasted your time, but from your rant below to Rasha, it seems you're easily offended. I am not trying to insult you by saying that, but if you get butt hurt by what hookers say on a fk board, you have a long hard road ahead in this hobby. That too, can be an issue for providers who don't want to deal with overly sensitive clients. I am not saying that's you or what happened here, but it is a fact for many.
I am thinking it was something with the profile to be honest. Again, it was still not your fault when she should have the common sense to check those things out BEFORE booking a date and then canceling after you are already there. That is pure chicken shit, and the fact that she did not have the balls to respond, tells me something spooked her.
That's just a wild guess of course. It could have been an emergency, but the fact that she viewed your profile and then cancelled right after, does not add up with someone who had an emergency. If she can send an email to cancel, she can say why as well.
First, allow me to apologize for the typo Rasha not Tasha. I don't know what mangina or butt hurt mean. I'm guessing from the context it's derogatory though. I don't think I did rant on that response post, especially if you don't think she was ranting. My goodness, you might want to re read her post because it came across to me as being about all hobbyist's. Perhaps you're right though, had I have read her other posts I may have been able to read between the lines. I had never seen a post from her before though. I certainly did not take offense to what she said, simply stated that if she felt that way about her clients perhaps she's in the wrong line of work. And I can guarantee from what she wrote that I won't book with her, although that probably doesn't matter to her or you. I've read and re read my post and I can't see anything I said as being disrespectful. But please point it out to me if you interpret what I said as disrespectful. And please define mangina and butt hurt (seriously I'm not being sarcastic), I'm not at all hip and I don't know this slang.
This thread is about your issue with said lady, not Rasha so read my comments about that part ha ha. Butt hurt, just means hurt. Mangina is what we call guys who get butt hurt lol.
Manjina: A guy who thinks, acts and talks like a woman.
Butt Hurt: The feeling of receiving Greek without lube...or even a peck on the cheek. Then translate that feeling from the physical to the mental...
On a side note, I would guess that she probably knew you or of you personally, or she saw you were verified from someone she doesn't like.
Otherwise, guessing she got ill, or as another poster pointed out sore...possible head board injury, or maybe the guy at her 3 o'clock was a relative of John Holmes.
Sometimes this hobby has you feeling like your in High School again...that can mean a fun new experience, but it can also mean blue balls. Consider it a gift...you saved some loot on what would have otherwise been a vanilla appointment. She probably did you a favor.
The truth is...you may never know why she canceled. But providers have canceled on me before in the same manner. And I don't know who the OP is talking about, but it may have even been the same girl.
The thing is...it doesn't really matter, because she wasn't comfortable. It totally sucks, but don't take it personally, because that doesn't necessarily mean that this may happen with other providers. I would just take my lumps and move on.
Unless she decides to tell you, it's just conjecture, and you could drive yourself crazy over this.
heaven forbid, she got an offer from a regular for a multi-hour date for a lot more money, as compared to your probably one hour date. Economics, more money, and you got screwed in not a nice way. Yeah, it sucks, but it happens. Nothing personal, just money. Sorry for your inconvenience, but time to move on. I would not book her again, if I were you.
Yeah, it was a two hour date, but I get your point. I don't book more than two hours for first dates as even though from her reviews we would've gotten along just fine action wise, I don't book longer until I know we'll get along during the down time as well. I certainly will not ever book her again. I really was looking forward to seeing her, and I'm sure I would've become a regular based upon her reviews and not just an in town regular, I travel to see three providers so I would've traveled to see her as well. It's a matter of respect though you know? She could've cancelled when she looked at my P411 account and saved me the hassle of traveling across town. Oh we'll, live and learn right?
"Lina, something came up I won't be able to make it".
I was on very brief tour, had limited availability and to say that his cancellation was inconvenient is to say nothing.
Do I have any idea what happened? Hell no. He could have had work emergency, family emergency, watched his cat eat his favorite hamster and gotten all depressed about it. Do I care what the reason was? Not really.
Bottom line - it happens. Make a note to yourself not to book with her in the future and move on to another lovely lady.
Watched his cat eat his favorite hamster and gotten depressed about it. Thanks I needed a good chuckle. Oh I have moved on, I saw a regular of mine the next night and I certainly won't book with her ever again. I was just wondering from a provider's point of view what would make someone do that. But you all are right, it could've been an emergency of some kind. I've had to cancel before because of a work urgency, but never less than 3 days from the date. The providers time is just as, if not more valuable than mine because she could fill that time with someone else. I just had to go home alone with blue balls.
The providers time is just as, if not more valuable than mine because she could fill that time with someone else.
Dude no ones time is more important than anyone else's. Every man, woman, and child only gets 60 seconds a minute, 60 minutes an hour, 24 hours a day, and 365.242 days a year. No one gets more nor does anyone get less and no one know exactly how many years they get in their life. Please, value your time more and just move on.
You likely will never learn why she did what she did and it does not matter. It could be anything. She did not respect your time because she did not keep the appointment nor did she apologize and explain why she was unable to. She is not worth a moments more of your time or effort. Nothing to do hear but move on and find a lady that respects you and your time and realizes it as important as her time.
Please quit acting like a but hurt mangina, and have some respect for your own time.
I don't know why she cancel, if was my case, had to be I important thing for cancel my appt (something personal) but I try to cancel with 3 hrs minimum if I can't make an appt an keep in touch with the gentleman. But, I know that is horrible when u be in the place waiting and that happend, but anyway, try to don't worry and try to find someone else.... Xoxo
I do appreciate each and every one of your responses, even those that felt compelled to attempt to insult me. I do understand now what mangina means (I wasn't enunciating it correctly). I have certainly put this issue behind me and I will not reschedule with this provider again even though I really wanted to see her based upon her reviews. I even thought of one no one else did, perhaps she started her cycle. In any case, I believe as many of you had said, she at the very least should have given some explaination, even if it were a lie.
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