than providers do when it comes to protecting the confidential information of both men and women.
Providers have asked for the power of RWI in the guise of a desire for increased safety. Once given, that power has been abused over and over again. In none of these doxxings has the safety of the provider ever been in doubt - none had even met the client.
My safety? The only way to guarantee it is to see a provider who cannot doxx me - the ones who don't have my RWI.
It is disingenuous (at best) to imply that clients are at fault for being doxxed because "they didn't do their homework". The doxxings are purely the fault of the providers abusing the power they were given.
I do my due diligence & was curious if others are doing theirs. All potentials are vetted by me personally. I do not trust anyone with my safety. Since, I am seeing all these recent outings of clients by providers what are you mongers doing to ensure your safety & privacy is secure? I’m positive utilizing p411 as a trust worthy verification site is not safe for anyone.
That giving a SW real life information is the least safe action if I'm concerned about being doxxed.
I prefer to meet fbsm providers who require far less verification and establish a rapport that organically leads to everything I could want.
hasn't changed in all of these years. I am willing to give my first name, my hobby phone number and two recent provider references that have as each agreed to two reference requests each for me within the next 90 days. If that is not enough to satisfy a provider's screening requirements, then I draw a line through her name and go on to the next lady on my to-see list.
This method is not for everyone, especially mongers who get it in their mind that they HAVE to see a particular provider. There are more providers than I will ever get to see in my lifetime, so I don't have to ABSOLUTELY see any specific lady. It's a business decision for me, not emotional. My money will be good somewhere else.
I wonder if guys look 👀 up providers?
Look up?
If you mean reverse image search,
Phone number search,
Read reviews,
Back channel other mongers?
Yes, to all of the above. I've never asked her for a selfie, her real name, or any PII before meeting.
Ding 🛎️ Ding BIG wiener! Lol Smile for me!
Have you discovered anything that detours you, or was a major red flag, etc.?
You've never seen my weiner, but thank you!
Sure, everything from fake pics she swears are real, to ads in 15 different cities at the same time, to bad reviews and candid backchannel comments.
This is all Research 101 that every monger should do unless they exclusively use a trusted booker.
This is what I am getting at specifically because I do not think every monger knows 101 research.
Well that's pretty obvious given the frequent " she kept my deposit" or gift card request scam posts as well as some of the "how to" questions here.
I will also say here that personally, I try to use my research skills for the greater good. If I find PII via my simple methods and end up meeting the girl, I will typically tell her about her own sloppy operational security so she can correct it.
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Sure. Just reading the boards here will point people to less than desirable options -- i.e., those who will take extreme actions just because someone gave a bad review or the like.
Personally for me I've never once been with a provider that I had serious concerns about related to doing crappy things like that. In that regard basically the greatest threat might be refusing to allow me to see another girl at the agency but that is hardly something to cry about. I've never once had the slightest hint to someone will out me for some reason.
So, all the checks are about how someone looks and how they interact/perform with clients. And yes, some times I get geed back from others that suggests I will not enjoy myself so I will pass.But for me the pass has always been about looks or performance and never about something that would be really harmful. And, as JL notes, it has not ever involved PII type data. But I do think that is one of the advantages of using agencies.
and some reviews on TER, I will USUALLY not even consider them (there have been a few exceptions when getting intel from fellow mongers). The first year I was in P4P, I used other ad platforms before discovering TER, but nothing comes close to the consistency I get from looking on TER and vetting the ladies here through reviews from my peers. For $350, I will take a chance sometimes on an unreviewed girl who has a beautifully done photo gallery, but most of the indies I see are in the $500-$700 range, so they must also have reviews.
Far too many other providers out here not trying to set a person up by asking for RWI.
If you want RWI, find another sucker to scam.
When looking for a provider to see, I send out multiple requests to several woman and the first one to answer back that is within my boundaries, is the one who gets the money.
If no one fits the bill, I have plenty of regulars willing to see me when I call.
So I hope all others clients are not don't trapped into these invasive requirements because we clients have other options.
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It's up to the individual lady to determine her comfort level, obviously.
It's extremely rare (in my personal experience) for a lady to require anything above and beyond P411 membership with okays. I have encountered it and then it's up to me to decide whether I feel comfortable providing the information that they require.
I am positive that you have fed so much into your own bs that you actually believe it. P411 has always been a trustworthy site & safe, and it has been for me since 2016 when a provider referred me to it. It's providers like you that want to nickel and dime clients and charge extra for a "screening fee" that make all providers look greedy.
TER will you please give this lady the Miss TER crown so she can stop with this whole rigmarole of constantly posting threADs.
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than providers do when it comes to protecting the confidential information of both men and women.
Providers have asked for the power of RWI in the guise of a desire for increased safety. Once given, that power has been abused over and over again. In none of these doxxings has the safety of the provider ever been in doubt - none had even met the client.
My safety? The only way to guarantee it is to see a provider who cannot doxx me - the ones who don't have my RWI.
It is disingenuous (at best) to imply that clients are at fault for being doxxed because "they didn't do their homework". The doxxings are purely the fault of the providers abusing the power they were given.
spewing this misinformation just to advance your agenda of demanding RWI from clients: