It's not that ladies don't know that ultimately they are "sluts"...I am one, but just like the other terms they are looked down upon and rude to be called...Just like SOME white people might laugh and call themselves "rednecks" or "crackers" because they're ok with it, they wouldn't want others to call them that or...it's like some blacks too who are ok being called the "N" word by their friends...BUT NOT OTHERS!
I mean I understand that some ladies say they get wet being called "whore" on this board, but most ladies here are ordinary ladies from a regular lifestyle who aren't ok with that...so why are ladies addressed that way here?
Doesn't it make you tired, trying to keep up?
Were you elated when janitors became Housekeeping Technicians?
Were you filled with the combination of anger and shame when the garbageman came to empty your cans? What a blessed day it must have been when he became a Sanitation Engineer.
I still can't remember the exact moments when Negroes became Black, and then African-Americans, but I'm sure each day was a joyous occasion.
They are just words. Words. Somebody decides that they don't like a word, and we get a new euphemism. After a while, we don't like the new one anymore, so we switch up again. Sooner or later we run out of words and have to either make up totally new ones, or go back to the beginning and re-use the old ones.
How stupid.
when did it became ok on this board to call those ladies "whores" "hookers" nd just rude names, was the question. Crackers and niggers was just an example to stress the rudeness of the words, so I understand euphemisms, just don't get why the shift in addressing the ladies here happened...that's all.e
Why can't we use n****r and k**e and s**c? I mean they are just words. I am not the most politically correct individual but what gets my goat is call a woman every stinking name in the book but call a black person n****r and you get banned.
Sexism is alive and well but God forbid if you're racist.
Were you elated when janitors became Housekeeping Technicians?
Were you filled with the combination of anger and shame when the garbageman came to empty your cans? What a blessed day it must have been when he became a Sanitation Engineer.
I still can't remember the exact moments when Negroes became Black, and then African-Americans, but I'm sure each day was a joyous occasion.
They are just words. Words. Somebody decides that they don't like a word, and we get a new euphemism. After a while, we don't like the new one anymore, so we switch up again. Sooner or later we run out of words and have to either make up totally new ones, or go back to the beginning and re-use the old ones.
How stupid.
What you are about to read is true. I have two friends who are married. They are both white on paper. One is male the other female, very traditonal wouldn't you agree? Both of them appear to have emotional/physcological issues. They self medicate, they also both use phsych drugs, and have perscriptions for those meds. This is the stange part. when they argue wich is all the time.
They call each other niggers, neither of them hang around black people, or listen to rap music.
Next time I see them, I will ask if they get off on offending one another.
good for your friends...on calling themselves names...the point was to talk about the shift in how ladies are addressed here...it wasn't always cool to call the ladies here "hookers", but lately that's how you all address them...I'm curious as to the change....that's all...but I assure you I'm not obsessed and tomorrow I probably won't even be thinking about you or this board...just curious right now.
Take care.
I mean I understand that some ladies say they get wet being called "whore" on this board, but most ladies here are ordinary ladies from a regular lifestyle who aren't ok with that...so why are ladies addressed that way here?
I'll take it as you don't have an answer. Thanks.
I mean I understand that some ladies say they get wet being called "whore" on this board, but most ladies here are ordinary ladies from a regular lifestyle who aren't ok with that...so why are ladies addressed that way here?
I mean I understand that some ladies say they get wet being called "whore" on this board, but most ladies here are ordinary ladies from a regular lifestyle who aren't ok with that...so why are ladies addressed that way here?
Let me lay it out for you......if providers are just "ordinary ladies from a regular lifestyle" one could make the connection that they live in the burbs in a tract home, drive a mini van, etc. If that's who lives in your suburb, I want to see about moving there. Get it?
bothered by it, gets offended by being called a hooker lol. I would be more offended being called a slut quite frankly, because that would suggest I was too dumb to get paid for it. If just the word "hooker" is dirty, wtf does that say about the things you DO after you get paid lol. Geez...
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)not sure why anyone would get bent out of shape about it bothering other people, but make a note...ok that bothers many ladies...and move on.
Again you're "special" and probably not a reflections of most ladies here when it comes to how they want to be addressed...
insults, wow
If being called a hooker offends you, I am not going to keep trying to change your mind about that as it is a moot point. You obviously don't like it, so I won't ever refer to you that way. I can't help if others do it though. Nothing special about me dear and I am not some random skank in my off time...I just prefer to keep things REAL here. "I" do work as a hooker, but hey...maybe you don't?
I just don't let things offend me as easily as the next person, and that comes with not letting people get to you over such things. Now, at the same time when a guy outright disrespects a woman, I will be the first to bash him all over this board, but calling a spade a spade is not doing such.
You can't stop what comes out of another person's mouth or off their keyboard, so getting upset about it is not going to change it...that was my only point. We are only responsible for how we choose to react to things, and I choose not to give a fk lol.
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cum dispensers as the general term.
Yes, I understand what I do but think nicer names should be used, like I don't call the men here "tricks", "johns" or "losers who pay for money". Maybe that should be the new direction like calling us hookers. ok
for your fragile self, then why post here? You keep beating a dead horse by insisting other people change their ways, and I keep telling you it is not going to happen. Now, I won't call you a hooker again because I don't set out to just be an ass, but if you keep playing this dumb ass word game, you're going to have some problems from the old guard. Hooker will be a nice term after what they say. I see your point, but see mine...you are not going to change anything around here by begging for it!
I am sure women would also like guys to stop calling them old and fat, but you don't see them stopping do ya? Nope, and they never will because of women like you who make a scene about how much it gets to them. YOU are the very reason they keep doing the shit. You decided to put my name in your bs, so shit or get off the pot. You sound like damn 6 year old crying to be honest, and it is far from attractive, but I guess you know that already.
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thanks for playing... 
Have a good day!
years into the biz, and the word hooker offends you? Priceless lol. I guess it just took you longer to see the forest for the trees. Can you please stop crying now? You sound like a damn baby..."I was here before you ever were na na na boo boo." If people are making fun of you, maybe it is because you sound like you are off your rocker! Trust me...you REALLY sound nuts after this little tirade honey, so I don't think being called a hooker is going to make you look much worse.
Coming here and DEMANDING people bow down to you or you are going to go cry to TER. Who the fk are you? No one that's who, and no better than the next (ahem, provider lol) around here. Good lord, I thought you had to be at least 18 to be a member.
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Thou rascal…hold thy bloody hand!/Why dost thou lash that whore? Strip thine own back;/Thou hotly lust’st to use her in that kind/For which thou whipp’st her. (King Lear IV.vi.)
I didn't want to offend anyone by using that, but now it is a regular daily use word. I don't mind being called a "cracker", "honkey", "redneck", or anything else about my ethnicity that I'm aware of. Sometimes though, taking a stab at someone reveals how they see themselves, whether they are at peace with how they are, or how they think others perceive them to be. So, to all those that rent out basic domestic sensual pleasures, S64 says, THANK YOU, I respect you, there is no higher calling as far as the little head is concerned, and he is in charge most of the time.
and not an ordinary woman, which a lot of us like but some if not most ladies here feel uneasy about how she is ok with being addressed or addressing other providers...so thank you for your sensitivity to how it might impact some ladies...it's like how some people of certain ethnicities are ok with using derogatory names to refer to themselves, but others in that same ethnicity feel pain from being called those terms. You're ok with "cracker" but it makes my mom feel bad...so I'd never use that term b/c some others may be like my mom. Please don't always use London as the mainstream go to point, she has good points, but her language may not sit well with all...thanks again for seriously taking a stab at this topic...it's good to know that a very small amt of ladies calling themselves and others these terms may be why it's the way it is on the boards now...have a good morning!!
Again, if just the WORD hooker offends you....why are you fkin strange men for money? THAT is NOT offensive to you lol. If you don't like being called a hooker, you might want to post on the Disney Board because this my friend IS A HOOKER BOARD lol. You're no more of a 'lady' than the next girl charging by the hour, so if my language (lol) is so offensive, gosh I am so sorry.
You can't compare racial slurs to job titles either...two different things. Someone is born a certain race so making fun of them for something they can't help, is just ignorant. OTOH, we CHOOSE to be hookers when we take that first payment for selling our ass...that is a choice, not something we were born as and can't do anything about. I doubt many men are going to dress this thing up all pretty for you so you can feel better about yourself, so I would not hold my breath.
You seem a bit squeamish, which is rather ironic for someone who gets paid to suck d*ck...was that too offensive, because it is the TRUTH honey.
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one of the most honest and "true to herself" women on these boards. I don't like the term either, prefer to delude myself into thinking that I am spending my money and time on companionship, but when push comes to shove, LR - you have hit the nail on the head!
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refer to us when discussed on the boards.
Nothing is new or special about what London said above...we KNOW we are sluts, cum dispensers or any other name you want to use to describe us...some of us would just like nicer names used when describing us, that doesn't mean that we're not true to ourselves or know why we're here.
urge you to not use her as the norm to determine how to address the ladies here. Thanks!
The term hooker has crossed over. While walking throught the hospital this week I heard one nurse call another nurse a "hooka". I turned to see if it was someone I knew, LOL
used to laugh at you by the general public when talking about what you do...or pay for?
The nurses are using the terms as a funny joke, like the one above where his white friends like to call each other the N word. They probably do it when they think they are doing something stupid or what they think is ignorantly black and have fun calling each other that.
Are you a "trick" or "john"? Sure you are just like are sluts, but it feels better to say client or provider...tell that to the nurses and they won't care...xox
Damn are you that naive that you believe people are not going to joke about things. People call lawyers snakes, Paramedics ambulance drivers, Chiropractor real Doctors LOL
I know my name is Magic but I don't get paid to perform tricks, well not anymore LOL.
Who is calling me a trick or a john, a hooker?
that seriously? We're only talking about labels, I'd hope that wouldn't be cause for such stress and malice on this board. lol
I love my clients, who are clients, my friends, MEN, great guys not any derogatory term others use to describe us, so like hooker I won't refer to them that way. lovely men they are. eom
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=553400&boardID=12&page=1#553400
I don't choose to use the word hooker in this forum. I use the word provider out of respect. I however, like to talk dirty during a session. I always explain to the lady that it's just a fantasy and that I do not mean those words, and if a lady were to express that she was uncomfortable with that I would not do so. Every relationship we we have in life is based upon respect including the hobby and writing in these discussion boards, so it's my default to use words that are respectful. Of course we all know that they all mean the same thing ultimately.
words in a session can be a turn on...love it!!
Thanks for genuinely engaging. xoxo
I am all for dirty talking in an appointment!
Any word, even "provider", can be used to denigrate, and any word, even the most offending, can be used in a benign fashion, all depending on the context and intent with which the speaker uses it.
I recall a few years back some neer-do-wells started to use a perfectly respectable word, niggardly (The word means stingy and has no etymological link at all to the "N" word.), just to be assholes and find a license to offend.
When a person wants to offend, they will. The blame is on the person, not the word.
To adapt the language of the anti-gun control crowd: Words don't hurt people, people do.
By the way, the etymology of hooker is fairly benign, it supposedly is related to General Hooker, a Union general in the Civil War who would bestow escorts to his men for morale purposes. These women became known as hookers as a result. (Though this is some disagreement on this.)
Whore likewise has a rather benign etymology, originally referring to any lusty lass.
Our language is full of words that were crafted to be benign versions of earlier derogatory terms that in time became derogatory themselves. Consider the word "special" as relates to people with mental disabilities, for example.
I don't like the terms "hooker" and "whore" especially since they are used by civvies to make fun of us (it's not a compliment when they're joking), it makes sense to maybe learn to embrace those words and "tale them back" as some would call it.
Thanks MrFisher for participating.
xoxo
but sexist slurs are thrown around like confetti? I have no problem being called anything but want the opportunity to be able to use like language and the same level of disrespect right back to that deserving person. But I can't because the world would fall apart and I would be vilified for being racist.
...as something distasteful, don't act like it.
By the way, the etymology of hooker is fairly benign, it supposedly is related to General Hooker, a Union general in the Civil War who would bestow escorts to his men for morale purposes. These women became known as hookers as a result. (Though this is some disagreement on this.)
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Maybe it's because we're not clear on what the question is.
Do you want to know the exact date and time that people started using the word hooker?
Answer: nobody fucking knows. Try the search function. Do you want to know the first time the term was used, or just when it became "popular"? That would be hard to determine, don't you think?
Or, is the question "why"? If that's it, then you HAVE been given some answers. Because it's just a word. Because some people are tired of the politically correct renaming of things. Because a person who sells sex (sorry, time I mean) for money IS a hooker. Did you click my link and listen to what George Carlin had to say?
Truth is, you are not asking a question at all. YOU have decided that the word is insulting, and so you think that people are going to read your post and say, "Oh gosh, sorry! We didn't mean to offend anybody. How about from now on we call them "nice ordinary ladies who lead regular lifestyles and once in a while, when they need cash, allow strange men to use their pussies for a fee"? That would make them
NOLWLRLAOIAWWTNCASMTUTPFAF.
Yay, a new acronym.
the point was internally amongst us to be respectful of each other...I'd never refer to you or someone else as a trick or john as despicable as those terms are so the point is to not refer to ladies that way...I'm sorry you didn't grasp that from the conversation going on here...the men above make good points that are worth reading...if my posts are out of scope or don't make sense b/c I didn't frame them correctly, please click the ignore button.
Take care.
I quoted George Carlin before, now I'll turn to Lenny Bruce.
I'm not interested in hurting or insulting anybody. Search my posting history, show me where I've ever been disrespectful or insulting of the ladies here and I'll grovel.
The intent of your post was to get people here to treat each other with respect? I've been campaigning for that here since 2002.
My point is that words have different connotations for different people. The right people, or the right number of people decide they don't like a word, and we have to replace it with a euphemism - until they get tired of that, and we have to replace it again.
I wasn't aware that "hooker" had fallen into that category. I bet a nickel that there are some hookers who don't like to be called providers, and some providers who would rather be called call girls... and so on. I'm not offended at being called a "trick" or a "john" - in the parlance, it's what I am. I would only be offended if it were used in an insulting context; it's the intent, not the word, as Mr. Fisher said.
I stand by Lenny Bruce - it's the suppression of the word that gives it power. "If the President would come on TV and say "nigger" - if he'd just say spic spic spic, boogie boogie boogie, nigger nigger nigger - and just keep saying it, until the words lost all of their meaning, then you could never send some six year old black kid home from school crying because somebody called him a nigger."
Then are you all for calling our Jewish brethren kikes and all our Negroes/African Amercian brethren niggers too? Because I am so okay with being called whatever but there is no chance in hell I can get away with that. Even if the intent was not malicious.
In the rules of this board name calling is grounds for issues but we name calling all over. Why not either inforce the rules or not have any? I call people assholes, London loves fucktard, some guys like whore, why not open the flood gates and let it all hang out instead of being selectively PC???
and all, but announcing how offensive something is to you is just going to make guys do on purpose to fk with you. If you act as if it does not bother you (which it should not, because you are in fact a HOOKER), they can't really have an affect on you.
of course that's something you wouldn't understand.
Carry on.
of hardly nothing, looking for ways to be offended, and then outright BEGGING guys on a fk board not to call you a hooker...good luck with that. You just gave every guy here just cause to mess with you even more knowing how much it annoys you. Don't draw attention to things, and people won't do on purpose to piss you off. Do you not get that?
If anyone is being insulting here, it is YOU, for not having enough maturity and common sense to know you can't tell others what to do...especially HERE. So, I wish you luck in your quest to conform others into what you think they should be and address you as, but I don't think you're going to be pleased with the results. You can beg all day long not to be called a hooker, whore, etc. but you're not going to stop anyone from doing it. Gosh.
You're not in church here...you are on a fk board in case that slipped your mind. I would not appreciate my mother or pastor calling me a hooker in passing, but guess what...THEY are not on a hooker board!
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...if enough people recognize something as an insult, they'll change it...I'll follow up with the higher ups.
You really do make for a great trainwreck babe, so keep it up. The board needs the hits. If ANYONE here is showing what a nutcase they really are, it is YOU lol. This is fkin great!
-Getting to bang you in the ass by the hour $1000
- you getting pissed off that people on a hooker board call you a fucking Hooker---Priceless
See you in church on Sunday sista, London will have the collection plate
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No need to get offended when that is just a fact. If some women have to call themselves courtesans and companions to feel better about what they do, more power to em. I don't need to dress this thing up.
I'm pretty sure the women that choose not use the word hooker are well aware of what they do for a living. It's all marketing and presentation. Why knock women or men who choose to do things differently?
you ARE during this time period, by all means do so. I am just not one for delusions I suppose. I doubt many people here use the word as an insult...it is more tongue and cheek or like slapping a baseball player on the ass before they are about to bat. Why people on a fk board of all places get so in a tizzy over dumb shit, is beyond me.
I am not the one who started a thread bashing others for using the words I thought were offensive am I? Telling me I am "knocking someone for doing things differently" in the very thread doing just that, is a bit stupid don't ya think? Who is knocking who for their choice of words here? I did not start the thread. If it is offensive to some, I can refrain from addressing that "some" as hookers....done deal. You might have a hard time getting the boys to follow suit though.
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Like I said in my earlier post it has to do with marketing and presentation. Not denying what we do for a living. If you attract the clientele that you want, good for you. Why are women delusional, if we do things and act differently than you?
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if you 'do things differently" but you ARE deluded if you think you're not 'working' as a damn hooker lol. Notice I did not say you 'are' a hooker, because it is not what your life revolves around, just like many of us. You/we simply 'work' as hookers.
Calling yourself something else does not change that fact. We agree, that it would be stupid to use the word hooker, whore, etc. on a website because that was admitting an illegal act? Can we also agree that getting bent out of shape about those same words here is a bit much? The bottom line, is no one is going to stop doing it and letting the entire board know how much it bothers you, is only going to cause some people to do it even more.
My point is, if sucking strange d*ck for a living does not offend you and being called a hooker does, something is very wrong in that scenario. Why is being called a hooker offensive if so many here are proud of what they do? Sounds to me like some may not be all that proud lol.
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When I said "do things differently" I meant in posting style. For the second or third time "I have no delusion of what I do for a living.
As for getting bent out of shape? Nope I didn't do that in any of my posts. I never said it bothered me. I just stated my opinion. But you go on believing what you want.
Calling yourself something else does not change that fact. We agree, that it would be stupid to use the word hooker, whore, etc. on a website because that was admitting an illegal act? Can we also agree that getting bent out of shape about those same words here is a bit much? The bottom line, is no one is going to stop doing it and letting the entire board know how much it bothers you, is only going to cause some people to do it even more.
My point is, if sucking strange d*ck for a living does not offend you and being called a hooker does, something is very wrong in that scenario. Why is being called a hooker offensive if so many here are proud of what they do? Sounds to me like some may not be all that proud lol.
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carry on "cum dispenser",,,as I will as well since that is what we do,,,might as well address us as a cum dispenser,,,oh happy day!
I'm done with this topic, if you don't get it, it's ok.
paid cum dumpsters or any other really shitty term because in reality that's what we do...we open orifices for men to deposit sperm for a fee. However there are just some terms that just stink and are never meant in a positive light for some.
I don't know if the guys would warm to "fucktards who have to pay" instead of client. Yeah I know it's all semantics for what we do, however people seem to pick and choose what is acceptable and what is not.
He simply asked a question. I didn't see him bashing anybody. Why change your posting style? If you have a good thing going keep it up.
I am not the one who started a thread bashing others for using the words I thought were offensive am I? Telling me I am "knocking someone for doing things differently" in the very thread doing just that, is a bit stupid don't ya think? Who is knocking who for their choice of words here? I did not start the thread. If it is offensive to some, I can refrain from addressing that "some" as hookers....done deal. You might have a hard time getting the boys to follow suit though.
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approach discussion boards...I don't understand why,,,it seems best to just discuss, but we're all different.
Take care.
So referring to me as Mr. Trick or Mr. John, two foul and heinous titles by your reckoning,
wasn't an insult? I know, you were just trying to ILLUSTRATE how hurtful the words could be by aiming them at me. Lucky for me, I have a steel constitution. And your suggestion that I wasn't able to grasp the discussion that was going on around me? No insult there.
Now point out how I insulted YOU, other than to disagree with you. I notice how you appreciate and comment on all the posters who agree with you. I'll re-state what I said before; you did not come here to ask a question, you came to lay down your gospel and shout down anyone who offers a different opinion.
Better to just discuss? I agree. My suggestion would be that you learn to "discuss" with people who disagree with you. When two people in a conversation agree, one of them doesn't need to be there.
there are a couple on this thread who were insulting, rather than discuss,,I didn't mean that to be you. I understand your point. Sorry for the confusion or that I insulted you, I just wanted to illustrate a point, but it was in poor taste, so I apologize.
I don't use the word hooker and do not refer to myself as one.
I have been called a hooker in the past does not bother me as it is just a word even if it is being used in a derogatory way.I know who I am and my job in no way defines me as a person.
What I really do not like are the words Johns and Tricks.I have never used those words and absolutely never will.There is no reason to use those words for the guys that I meet it is rude in my opinion.
Hey,if a provider wants to call herself a hooker here or on other boards but one or two providers on this board do not speak for all of providers opinions as a whole.
Funny how people always want to use one provider as an example as if her words/opinions are gospel.
I disagree that I made it "ok to call everyone that word," because as this thread points out...some don't find it ok. I did however make it ok for them to call me a hooker, because I have no problems with admitting I am working as one. Let us get real here for a minute though..just because you don't like being 'called a hooker' does not mean that is not what you're working as. Does not change a thing.
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it's just plain ugly. also i believe it refers to a very specific type of woman who sells her body and time. if you study the etymology of the term, it originally was a descriptor for women (and men) who lied, robbed, cheated, and generally grifted their way through life. someone who would "hook" your wallet, whether by outright snatching it or sweet-talking you out of it. in a modern setting that brings to mind women and young girls who walk the strip hoping to hook a horny guy in order to get their next drug fix or spare them the wrath of a pimp. it certainly does not bring to mind the majority of the women you will find on a place like TER.
London argues that any woman who has sex with strange men for money is a hooker...not only do i disagree with that, there is also the fact that not every provider operates that way. i have never had paid sex with a stranger, and my relationships with my clients are not based on sex (some are even purely platonic). does that still make me a hooker?
however i do consider myself a whore, among other things. the difference is that the word whore does apply to some of my relationships with clients in the general sense. while not any man and certainly no strange man can simply pay me for sex, i do have friends who fuck me and will pay me sometime after...that is close enough to a whore in my book. doesn't bother me in the least, and actually uttered by the right man it can really arouse me.
btw...i also disagree that every woman here is a "slut." in fact i would bet there are very few sluts around here. London, for instance is definitely not a slut...if money is not involved, i am betting that she would not have indiscriminate sex with countless men. i, otoh, absolutely would (and do).
paid for sex? I just like hooker better I guess lol, and you are correct I don't fk for free ha ha. Sugar Babies also don't think of themselves as whores, hookers, etc. but they are in fact getting paid to fk. When we start getting paid NOT to fk, I guess the terms could change.
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I don't think anyone started out to say they were offended by this word or that.....I think it actually was started to point out that things seemed to have changed. A lot of people seem to have tired of provider and gone back to basics. This is just about using polite language or not. I love ya, London, but are you going to excuse yourself to the little girls' room or say, "Pardon me, but I need to go take a shit." We can agree on any terms, but what is wrong with being polite? Yes, I'm a john when I come to see London the whore, but I'd rather be a client visiting a well-regarded provider. Not really important, but........
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addressing each other around here, but saying it in passing means nothing to me. So, can we get a show of hands from who is offended by the word, and not use it towards them? Great....
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i won't say that most of my clients don't use me sexually at some point, because most do, and i enjoy that aspect very much. but the fact is that some don't...AT ALL. there is never any sex or eroticism involved in our meetings, just quality time together doing whatever it is they need. sometimes sex is just not the need.
i find absolutely nothing wrong with operating a simple black and white business model of renting out one's feminine assets to qualified bidders, it's a whole lot less complicated and theoretically drama free. but please accept the fact that that is not the ONLY business model. i am not a person who needs to use softer terms in order to somehow make myself "feel better," as you have accused some providers here. hell, i will admit flat out that i am a natural born slut who has followed an absolute stranger into the bathroom of a nightclub and allowed him to fuck me over the toilet. the people waiting outside to use the facilities weren't too happy about it. and for me that is nothing special or shocking, just a fun saturday night out. it's how it works for us sluts.
but that is worlds apart from what i do with my clients, and as a logic-minded person i just believe in accuracy in speech.
The use of the term hooker for prostitute derives from the Civil War. When General Hooker took over the Army of the Potomac, he established rules and regularized the business of prostitution surrounding the camp. He viewed it as a sanitation measure. The soldiers adopted the slang term "hooker" for the girls in honor of the general.
and it is a very unclear picture.
The term predates General Hooker, but most accounts say that he might have popularized the term much as Martin (Old Kinderhook) Van Buren popularized the term OK.
There is also a theory that it refers to an old neighborhood in New York near the water called "The Hook" where gals plied their trade.
as mrfisher stated, the slang term "hooker" long predates the Civil War. it goes even farther back the Corlear's Hook neighborhood in New York. it goes as far back as the late 16th century, and referred to street prostitutes, thieves, conmen, grifters, etc. if you study 17th century english literature you will find the term used occasionally and the meaning is very clear.
however i do agree with mrfisher in that General Hooker's soldiers, as well as that infamous "red light" district of New York, brought new popularity to the word that has remained today. those particular two uses also occurred around the same time (1850s then 1860s).
the ladies here, hookers ho's sluts,,,they're all used with such negotiate intent as they laugh at ladies her,,,same when they laugh at the men that pay for sex, so I'd never use those terms b/c I associate them with being derogatory,,,not sure why that was taken so hostile here on the board...but to each their own on what gets them riled up. Anyway, I refer to the guys here as guys, my friends, clients and would never call them johns and tricks or any other derogatory name that civvies use to laugh at them...but that's me,,,I hold them in high regards and am respectful...so I wondered about when the language here changed...other posts where the guys refer to us as ho's,,,yes we know we're ultimately ho's,,, but it's interesting because it used to not be the vibe here...that's all.
Thanks for participating.
Well I am a provider which also means I am a hooker. Yeah I like the word provider much better. There are nicer ways to say things. When I am posting on here I always say "client". I have never posted trick or john because it just seems a bit rude and lowering. I want to treat everyone with respect. I will be honest when I am on here reading posts and I see someone say hooker instead of provider or escort it does catch my attention. It also puts in my mind an idea as to what type of person that is.
I am just being honest. I am not whining. I understand what we are all doing here but I too agree that I do not like the words whore, hooker, john or trick. But if it becomes the norm here I will get used to it. I will not start posting in that manner but I will get used to it. 
word hooker do not mean it as an offense, but as really a way of saying you are one of the gang. I don't see why that is so hard for others to grasp. This entire tirade is ludicrous and very telling of how much some people can't come to grips with what they do. I don't have a problem with guys or gals calling me a hooker, because I know it is not what makes me who I am. It is just a word to me.