Ya know that I have been a hobbyist for a few decades and I guess my biggest gripe is ;

Sorry, it must suck to be you. Most of the rest of us seem to think most of the girls are compensated fairly, and since very few are getting rich or are ever going to approach the top 1% I don't think your gripe should be with them, but rather you should look at your own shortcomings.

I wasn't so lucky. Got the news a little over a week ago. Donations are what they are pay it or don't. I have been on a hobby vacation the last six weeks. Was saving to see someone on here. Now I am using that money to get ahead on bills. I have no doubt I will have another job within the next two weeks.  

Naomi, have you ever bought a new car ?
Did you pay what was on the sticker ?

You never wanted deals, when shopping for a car, clothes, shoes, house etc?
Also I did not take his thread as complaining, but more of a reality check about how things have changed in this hobby.

Also, you do realize that discounting on services is a much different proposition than discounting on manufactured goods... don't you?

We can all bitch all we want about the prices
Sure it be nice to fuck for free , but get real  
if these prices scare you do what i do see girls that charge less  
Like 200 or 250 I'm not bitching .  
And if thats too much i ve heard that there are some places  
Where you can pick up a streetwalker with no teeth for 20 bucks .

Also consider that gals spend 2-3 hours in marketing, sales, travel, and prep for every billable hour.  Other professions charge for those things.

I think you are missing the point and yes you might think I am comparing people to goods and yes on a P & L statement they are only a number... As are the layers of inflationary costs, advertising, product endorsements ( Tiger Woods and Nike ) which created an 60% increase in retail cost for the same product.... But hence the demands by stock holders "Cut labor cost by sending jobs overseas so the CEO get his same $100,000,000.00 incentive bonus and we get our 12-16% ROI

It works both ways too.

The good news for providers is that illegality drives up the prices they can charge by weeding out potential competition who doesn't want to face the risks.  Illegality is supply restrictor.

But one day it will all come to a screeching stop, call it the global warming of the sex industry.....

And, pray tell, whom am I shilling here?  Anyway, if I were to shill someone, it would be dumb to do it with an alias, don't you think?  

Yes ladies I am sure that you'd like paying 28-33% FIT 15.3 % FICA and State taxes as well as Health Insurance and disability insurance.... Then you have a seat at the table to berate us consumers... til then....

(because of schedules, work, family, etc) not often enough.

I think maybe you should unmask yourself and join the discussion with you real username, as I have ( as I don't always review and when it is a negative I tend to leave things as is... p.s my car is german and in the c class

So you do understand the concept of going for low-end offerings vs high end (e.g. S Class).  

Junior they obviously know who they are... You most certainly did

Where are you getting those stats?  

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I'm not sure you are able to do that. I am guessing you are paid by the hour at your job, and you don't have to put any expense into the company, nor market their brand or maintain their reputation. Of course, you have to do your job well and collect your paycheck. You turn in your mileage and meal checks for reimbursement, and your medical insurance is automatically drawn out of your paycheck.

You're comparing providers to cars?  

Do they give you their bank statements or something?

I guarantee you it will not come to a screeching stop. Just look at this article I'm reading, that is at least a little bit better than the google search you provided on how much a lawyer makes lol!

It will demolish your piece of shit plastic class C German car any day in crash. you  

After your assumption based on zero evidence, your entire thread is pointless.

Every couple of pages there is a hobbyists complaining about providers' high prices. *major eye roll* dude if you can't afford her time go see someone's who's time you can afford. It's THAT simple. Or do you actually feel that entitled that you'd waste time writing this vitriolic garbage ?

And most of it partly or completely wrong.
1) What does a hooker's price have to do with the years of schooling she has?  Zero.  Smart girls simply price what the market will bear, or enough to get her the income she wants.  What a lawyer makes is totally irrelevant.
2) What "gang influence?"  Generally, there's little or none, especially with independent girls.  Same with the under age girl factor and the myth that the FBI and other LE agencies is "all over the hobby."  Prove it.  Don't bother. You can't.  Most LE activity is local.  And sporadic.
3) Almost no TER girls are pimped in the traditional sense.  A few have boyfriends or husbands but they are not turning them out.  Lots of the girls here have other jobs.
4) There's always violence but what makes you think there's more these days?
5) Bait and switch is as old as this game.  What makes you think there's more now?
6) Overbooking?  Same question.
Sorry you haven't gotten a raise, but you claim you buy a new Merc every year so why should anyone shed a tear for you?  Try getting a new one every other year and get laid more.  Even more important, get a new attitude.
PS: I've been doing this a long time, too.  Prices over the past 6 years are generally flat.

As a man of average means who started the hobby because the dating game is so rigged, and as you get older your choices grow colder, I feel that at least a couple of hours with a beautiful exotic woman on occasion is well worth the investment. Yeah, I have to save my pennies up, but any hobby costs money. I would rather get fucked by an escort, than raped by a lawyer.

I was going to keep to myself but after reading all the posts I couldn't resist.

To be fair, the lawyer just holds you down.

So at an average of $250-$350 per hour in my metro area, that's a one hour date once every two or three months.  Do you see me on the boards bitching about provider's rates?  NO!!!  If I'm going to bitch about something, it will be something more bitchable, like our stupid 2-party government system that's raping the middle class.  That is the real problem, not escort rates.