Annual will be $180 instead of $150.  Lifetime will be $700 instead of $600.

P411 is not a screening & verification site that I trust to, do my personal safety checks on potential new clients. I have always screened my new friends myself, so why is everyone relying on a third party site to have their best interest at hand? I have only gave out 14 okays on p411 in over 12+ years. I do not use p411 to verify for booking. I do, like the client profile page because it allows me to get a small idea of the persons, likes & dislikes.

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Then I think you should drop p411.

While that may be YOUR belief, many providers do use it for screening and verification as it was intended to be.

I've never used p411. If a provider can't/won't screen me based on my TER review history and Whitelists I move on to another provider. And I haven't had to do that more than a handful of times.

Buying a life time membership was m9ney extremely well spent.

I have been a provider on P411 for years and I do not require any additional screening info if you are a current member. It is of course up to the individual provider but I have never had any major issues with a current or possible client from P411. I live in a rural area in Wisconsin and am one of the few full time providers here so most local clientele know me already, but it has allowed gentleman that are visiting this area to locate me to set up a date.

Makes it easier for us to "screen" LOL

That's not even an actual question, just another attempt at shouting from the rooftop that real life information is a MUST for "mutual safety." I think that last excuse I read was something about needing real life information in the event I had a heart attack during a session, without my LinkedIn account, etc. medical help wouldn't be allowed. It's ridiculous, and like many others, if my P411 okays and whitelists aren't enough I move on.  

I thought all guys did that. You mean some guys are each paying for their own account?

Individualized presonal screening may work for you, but this is the most out-of-touch response I've read in a long long time. P411 is invaluable to so many providers and clients.

I've never shared it and never will.  Not one person in my "real world" life knows I am in the hobby, and I'm not going to do anything to change that.  I always did cash with P411 when Gina was in charge, inluding when I purchased my lifetime membership.  Best money I ever spent, imo.

And the poster above has just one of many good reasons. I know lots of guys on this site (as well as former and inactive members) and NONE of them shared accounts. You have to be a real piker to share an account and most of the guys here are more high-end because most TER women are not cheap.

the topic was sharing P411 accounts, NOT TER accounts.  With that said, I agree with your post.  I never heard of anyone sharing a TER account either.  

Sounds like a great way to get banned.

And I don’t like giving up screening info, neither do my buddies so we just use p411.

The thought never crossed my mind.  Yuk, some things are suppose to be private with my OK list being one of them.  i decide who sees it.  Not some cheapskate I would share with.

Just to be clear I have never heard of any yahooligan doing this either, my above comment was being flippant. Thankfully the gentlemen I have shared my time with have been kind, polite, and respectful, unlike this tool. Yes, very much yuck.

And just because you don't want to share an account doesn't mean people are cheap, we just don't all want this site having our info and lucky for us they never check up on older accounts.

It may have nothing to do with you being cheap, but it does have everything to do with you being a creepy sub human. The fact that you and your disgusting friends would cheat at a verification site to help sex workers be safe is beyond gross and predatory. You are not a good person.

I only see providers on p411. Worth it for me. Unless I get a personal reference from someone I trust .

Why in the hell would TER ban me after 18 freakin years, I thought this thread was about P411 and how in 8 years they never really did me any good, still had to verify myself, and quite a few newer providers use social media. but it's the rest of it, and I get it. "HOLDING YOUR BREATH". but hey can't say I didnt tell you.

Believe it when I see it !  Sounds like another " snake oil " salesman with a need for others money.

It's not the part about P411. For someone's who has been a member for 18 years, the rule use to be and may still be, no talking about other review sites. Now, since so far there is no actual site that you said would include reviews as of now, it *might* not be a violation.  

Truthfully, I do appologize never hung out back here and posted. and well, I should have kept my fucking mouth shut. Appologize gentleman. have a good evening. I sincerely hope I did not offend.

They never checked our original application and they never question the account.  

On the other hand: do you think they're the only ones doing it. I think that highly unlikely. It's like Netflix, they've fixed a lot of the wholes in there system, but people are still sharing accounts and Netflix is still spending money on filling the gaps.

Gotta wonder what else you and your buddies share with each other.

Your lack of personal awareness and integrity is beyond reproach.

In all the appointments I had using P411 I had one provider check my identity as per P411  
Guys doing above is why more if not all providers should do so. The BS that because they have not been caught “steeling” and then blaming P411 is pretty lame .
Also think that they can still get P411 with at least two provider references the Sam as I did years ago.