…and i have noticed two trends based in the posts and reviewing many profiles
1. fewer ladies are accepting “just references” as a method of screening. back in may of 2025 it seemed a lot wanted references and i was having trouble booking. LinkedIn, selfies, and ID with address blocked seems to be getting more commonplace. 2. rates are climbing very fast. i get there is inflation and what not but here in the nyc region at some point it will be difficult to find a decent provider for under 1000/hour. i know many on here are quite wealthy but i, while notnin the poorhouse, only see women every few weeks. some women make me scratch my head as to why they charge as much as they do. clearly they are getting that much so who am i to judge, but i guess it is subjective as always assumed blond slender white girls under 25 can command the highest rates….
always assumed blond slender white girls under 25 can command the highest rates….
This is interesting and I totally disagree.
#1 - myself personally I have never required references.
#2 - I think rates have been high because everything costs more now.
#3 - a women's value is not set on the color of their skin, how much they weigh, or by their hair color that's very stereotypical. What about the mature white, blonde who is thick with experience is she not worth $1000 an hour in your eyes? 🤔
I am curious what's the meaning of your post? You are very judgmental. Expertise does not usually come at age 25. Shallow.
i am personally happy if references goes away as an indistry standard because they take time and many providers charge to provide them, which i don’t blame them for because time is money
you are entitled to your opinion, but the fact of the matter is that as a rule, younger women will always be preferred and can charge a higher rate. if i was a cop and wanted to hook people in a sting, i promise you i would get more arrests with a fake ad that features a fake provider “18WF, blonde, cheerleader, trained gymnast, curves in right places, 50hh 100hh, ask about BBFS for an upcharge”
i realize that is not PC
with that being said, i personally don’t care about age or skin color, only how in shape they are
i was commenting on what i have seen on tryst in the oast year in the nyc metro area
This is total horse shit 💩....
but the fact of the matter is that as a rule, younger women will always be preferred and can charge a higher rate
💭 this is not a rule, nor is it a fact.
Not everyone prefers young & inexperienced providers at a higher rate. 🤥
Please don't believe everything posted by people who have not been around for decades. If I believed that I would not be successful, nor would I be getting booked & paid in full at the time of booking. It's funny to me because I recall back in 2010 when I required a 50% deposit to book everyone discouraged 🫤 and now look the majority of providers require deposits to book.
When I first started it was you shouldn't charge $500 an hour because you're not white with blonde hair and look at me now. Don't believe the hype. Do you. I have a different mindset. No one has my unique set of expertise. You can never tell any provider what they should charge for their time. You can not compare apples to oranges. We're all very different.
Yes it is very shallow to state young, white, blondes can charge higher rates that's bullshit. These are the same people who complain when they pay higher rates with little to no performance 🎭 you're literally paying for looks. If your goal is sleep with barely legal your are not my clientele. My friends don't want to have sex with anyone who is their daughter's age.
We're not the same. No harm no foul, but you're spreading false information because anyone is capable of charging higher rates it doesn't matter if you think they're worth it, or not. There is no substitute for experience.
I love seeing women of all shapes, hues & sizes charge higher rates!
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As to young, white providers being able to command the highest rates? That’s just not the OP saying that. It’s very easy to find non-white providers on social media complaining about how much harder it is for them to make money in the business than it is for the white girls. The OP picking up on that observation doesn’t make him shallow.
Rates vary by multiple factors: area, service, maintained looks, etc. No one has the right to tell us what we “should” charge. Btw men like variety so your assumption is wrong. Not to put it harshly, but if you want quality this hobby isn’t meant to be affordable.. but it’s cheaper than a wife or divorce lol.
The reason some providers no longer accept just references:
1) We reach out and provider says she doesn’t give references at all, or doesn’t remember any info from the booking - now how is she supposed to screen you?
2) Clients abuse reference etiquette - listing a provider they never saw, or once 8yrs ago.
3) References aren’t 100% reliable. Ive given a reference to a client who treated me well then lo and behold he No Call No Showed/acted inappropriately with her.
4) Some providers give out references like candy and their judgment can’t be trusted.
i remind myself all the time that this is cheaper than dating and long term relationship upkeep - you are just paying the money upfront!
maybe one day i will crunch the numbers and post the analysis on here. i think i will title my analysis “Why high end escorts are the cheapest sex you will ever have…even when they are not”
i also agree that just references is a bad idea for provider safety as it also takes more time bevaise you have to get in touch with the privider and then the client has to wait anxioisly….
My second marriage was -- by far -- the most expensive sex I have ever had.
Why do so many providers think a wife and a divorce always costs the man? I hate to say, but this statement is just as much falling into stereotypes as the young hot white blonde statement. Both are more common, but neither the rule.
As a sex worker, I know you’re well aware of women working and bringing money to the bank. And, they get into relationships and marry men that make leas than them. The man can just as easily cost them more to be with, and more in divorce. Not all men are rich and have a lot of money that can be taken. For men who are not rich, an escort can absolutely cost them more than a relationship. And as rates have skyrocketed, this has become more true.
Back to the young hot blonde. He’s not wrong. But he is perpetuating the stereotype. But she has a privilege that older and/or providers of different races, body shapes, etc… don’t have. This doesn’t mean they can’t break the barriers. It just means it’s harder and less common.
FWIW, he’s just saying what many others are thinking.
Not criticizing your point, as you are essentially correct, just widening its scope a bit. What you are referring to, the higher rates and more intrusive verification demands, started about 4–5 years ago and not just in thelast year.
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Yes, rising rates in P4P are attached to rising inflation rates, to be sure, but it goes well beyond that. For many segments of this lifestyle, providers fees have far outpaced ordinary, everyday inflation. The big difference is the massive change in the supply and demand sitch that happened under SESTA/FOSTA and COVID.
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When COVID vaccines became readily available in 2022, an unprecedented number of clients jumped back into the waters, with newbies who had delayed for a full year coming in as well. They all leaped back into the pool at roughly the same time, causing unprecedented pent up demand while simutaneously, there was a much lower number of providers, and voilà...dramatic price increases were born.
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The reason, in part, that some women may charge higher than the market is that they have different financial needs and may also have differing demands on their time. Supply and demand certainly has an effect in this realm, but not with everyone. Some women won't go out the door unless they get X amount of dollars to do so. Others may be in school, have full time civvie jobs, be caring for a child, a loved one, etc. the list is endless.
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They also found additional income streams through OF, camming, etc and working from home in their civie job suddenly presented them more opportunity to explore those other, at home financial avenues.
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Many women also came to the realization that if they charge much more, and therefore go out less, they still end the month with as much, if not more, money. It was an experiement that surpised many p4p women and realy, who wouldn't sign up for LESS hours and MORE money at work? lol
As for RW info being required more often now, Brielle's points fit quite nicely into that answer, but I think she is missing the biggest one: RW info allows women to do a background check on you, something that references simply can't. It alos give sthe guy much less incentive to act like a jackass when he is in the prescence of a provider as he has the potental for being outed for any aggregious behavior he may commit.
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Also, many women provide in areas where they grew up, and getting PII eliminates the possibility that they could run into the boy they knew from high school or their dad's best friend. lol.
I don't mind giving the pii for verification. I have severely curtailed my activities after having a few encounters with $800-$1K per hour providers that were absolutely nothing special. The providers had good reviews but their performance with me was nothing like what was described in their reviews. When doing an advanced search in my area I will come up with one or two providers that have a recent review after that the reviews are literally from years ago. I think there are a lot of "dead" provider accounts on TER.