On a board like TER, two spaces between sentences cause trouble when TER software "wraps" the second sentence to a new line. Specifically: although the first space hangs invisibly after the period, the second space pops up VISIBLY as an indent on the new line. That's a distraction to the reader.
If you type just one space character between sentences, the problem is avoided. I still use two spaces between sentences in MSWord. Word figures it out for you and avoids false indents.I was just wondering if anybody gets turned off when they see an ad from a provider that has terrible grammar and spelling. From my experience, this is very common. For me it's a bit of a turn off but in a provider/client situation, I'm more concerned with performance than grammar. It does make me second guess a provider though. If you're not paying enough attention or care enough about your ad then you'll probably do the same with me or any of your clients.
This is just like every other business- keep it professional.
Personally, I do strive to check and recheck my content and I would say that spelling mistakes are very rare for me. I make sacrifices when it comes to grammar since I sometimes prioritize style and mood over what is correct. Mastering English can be challenging in ways that Global North born + English as a 1st language speakers take for granted. Even as someone who migrated from an Anglophone country, I've experienced a range of responses from people harshly criticizing how I speak to people being delighted by my accent. Some folks swear I'm British while others can tell I'm a yard gyal. Maybe because of these experiences, I don't automatically assume that people must be unprofessional or inattentive if they don't speak or write English in idealized ways.
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It's hard to assume anything from something that someone wrote. There's no accent, no hand gestures, no facial expression, just words. I can usually tell when there's a cultural effect to the way an ad is written as opposed to someone just plain not caring. I looked up your ads and they were extremely well written and you're pictures are outstanding, great work! I've seen so many that are just bad though. I mean come on, if people can't put any effort into their ads then I doubt that they would put any effort into anything else.
Absolutely agree with you.
Being Eastern European and having English as a second language means two things in this business:
1. Sometimes an advantage in face-to-face interactions, people find the accent charming or at least interesting.
2. Have to put extra effort in anything I write, double-check the words, etc. For me as a person quality is a huge turn-on. That includes grammar and correct spelling. When I'm using my native language it comes naturally, in English I have to work harder. But at the end it's way worth it.
Still for sure there are mistakes/typos, using the incorrect words (even now.. and obvious to everyone that English is not my native language. But at least I'm trying...
Also, I'm always open to suggestions, constructive criticism about my website, pics or ads
When someone posts that she is "intelligent, college educated," blah, blah, blah but the grammar and spelling says otherwise then I take notice and lament the state of affairs in our institutions of higher education.
It doesn't turn me off unless it seems too deceptive (someone trying WAY too hard to be something that they are not) or if I am actually looking for something a little more scholarly that day. I am also influenced by whether or not English is her first language. Her English is almost always much better than my Russian, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, Portuguese, French or Hebrew (yep, she was from Israel).
Some ads (personal websites) should be read, reread, and corrected as needed. Other ads (BP?) appear to be one-and-done and no editing to correct mistakes so I cut more slack there, too.
For example, OP, did you know there is only one space after the period, not two? I usually cut providers slack because of their young age, the medium the ad is posted, and I make grammatical mistakes all the time. I use a grammar app to help, but its not 100% accurate.
I just want to know how good she is in bed and that she isn't a hood rat. That's why reviews are far more important than grammar to me. What does bother me is ugly lingerie, particularly out dated lingerie like white granny panties.
We all have our pet peeves.
I was taught in typing class (ca. 1964) to have two spaces after the period or colon.
I see that often violated and people have told me that it is now optional, but it is not an error. I appreciate the look of a page where sentences are set apart.
I was told not to do it, especially on resumes. Shows your age. IBM Selectric here.
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I became curious and looked it up because I also learned to put two spaces behind punctuation in my typing class (mid-90's.) I think we have something in common that makes it an outdated practice... We learned how to type on typewriters. The reason it is outdated now is because there is a function of the computer that automatically formats our sentences and makes it so the two spaces are not required as it was on a typewriter which did no automatic formatting at all, of course.
I taught myself how to type when I was in elem school (I only took the class in hs for an easy A lol) and it is ingrained in my muscle memory. Cursive writing is in the same boat because its no longer taught in schools and everyone uses a computer or tablet to write their notes, letters, etc. A lot of younger people cannot even understand how to read cursive but, just because it's outdated doesn't mean I'll never write in cursive again. Its not wrong, just a blatent sign of coming from a different era.
Well, I'm mid-thirtie's, learned to type on a PC, and was taught to put two spaces after a period. This thread is the first time I've heard anyone say that's wrong. If it is, fine, these things change. Guess you don't have to be old to be old fashioned.
In whatever grade it was they taught us cursive they made us write everything in cursive. After that, the teachers didn't care what you did as long as they could read it and I went back to print and never looked back. I can still read cursive though! That sounds crazy, not being able to read cursive.
You likely learned during the phase between type writers and computers so these new rules werent in place yet. Im late 30's, so just a couple years ahead of you. We had to go to a computer lab to use one, and even then..no one really knew how to use it. I had taught myself programming and would do devious little things like go into DOS and make it so after you type anything, my name would show up or create ascii drawings that would pop up when you turned the computer on...which also included my name. Id get called out of class to come to the lab to fix the computer back. I was clever....to a fault hahaha!
Anyway yeah, kids now dont even learn cursive in school so its totally foreign to them. They have no practical use for it though... it was to help make it faster to write, which is why I preferred it over print for note taking, and I had even taught myself short hand so I could write about as fast as my teachers could speak. But, now with computers and microphones...skills like those are useless to most people today and pretty archaic which brings on a new set of rules for what is now the standard.
Bringing things back around on topic though, its those same technologies that make for people who don't know how to spell or use proper grammar. At one time, you had to be mindful as you wrote to spell and use correct sentence structure. Now, computers do most of it for you, so its not something a lot of people put any thought into when writing. I dont think it has anything to do with intelligence or education...I have friends with advanced degrees who write in text speak and it drives me nuts! Its just not that important to them and most feel what they are saying matters more than how they say it. Im old school, but you'll never see me correcting anyones spelling or grammar...I try my best to write well, but Im not perfect.
I was also a two-space typer. (Sometimes I use 2 spaces; sometimes 1 space.)
Good typesetting programs put a larger space at the end of a sentence period than after an abbreviation period. It's hard to notice unless you know what you're looking for. Rather, your brain notices but w/o noticing as you read quickly through a book.
Example: My name is Mr. Smith. What is your name?
A good program, like TeX, will put a regular space after Mr. and a larger space between Smith. and What.
An old fashioned typist would use one space after Mr. and two spaces between Smith. and What.
I taught myself how to type when I was in elem school (I only took the class in hs for an easy A lol) and it is ingrained in my muscle memory. Cursive writing is in the same boat because its no longer taught in schools and everyone uses a computer or tablet to write their notes, letters, etc. A lot of younger people cannot even understand how to read cursive but, just because it's outdated doesn't mean I'll never write in cursive again. Its not wrong, just a blatent sign of coming from a different era.
On a board like TER, two spaces between sentences cause trouble when TER software "wraps" the second sentence to a new line. Specifically: although the first space hangs invisibly after the period, the second space pops up VISIBLY as an indent on the new line. That's a distraction to the reader.
If you type just one space character between sentences, the problem is avoided.
I still use two spaces between sentences in MSWord. Word figures it out for you and avoids false indents.
I will keep that in mind and maybe restrain my usual habit of double-spacing between sentences.
But dang, what really drives me crazy typing on a computer is ... where the heck is the carriage-return lever???
I'm still searching for the ANY key.
but I do think that when a provider shows attention to detail in things like their websites, that concern will carry over to how they treat their clients.
It's a sad fact that we are awash in a sea of poor grammar among other literary offenses, the chief culprit being the internet. On account of that, I'm willing to cut a bit of slack on this point.
Grammar and sentence structure reveals more about class and background than the occasional misspelled word. I take it in as information, doesn't turn me off n any way. One of the best experiences I've had is described in the provider's ad as a "pleasantful enconter"
Very true, depends on their rates too I guess lol.
... between the care used in the production of an ad and the care in the service delivered.
A great photo helps.
Like with all advertising, it helps to do research on the provider and that is where the reviews help.
I get more distracted by reviewer's poor grammar and spelling. I can't get by how many reviewers think they give the provider multiple ORGANISMS that cause the lady to SHUTTER. Aaaargh!
the real question is whether or not there's any relation between grammar and sex.
My pictures are real and I look even better in person. (Except she looks heavier and older in videos).
I do prefer a well educated and sophisticated provider, but if she's hot and can fuck my brains out, I don't mind that she doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
I'm more annoyed by inarticulate screening requests and "hooker math" rate structures.
Really? You have a grand total of 2 reviews over the last two months and you are presuming to lecture providers on grammar and spelling? If you decide not to see a woman or a tranny based on such superficial considerations, they are better off. There would be no pleasing your whiny pretentious ass! They should avoid you like the plague. Providers have enough trouble trying to making a decent living in this business without having to contend with a newbie, self appointed grammar police.
Fantastic post
You have no need to use your alias as you said whatever needed to be said and said it well.
You have no need to use your alias as you said whatever needed to be said and said it well.
Wow I didn't think I was going to offend anyone that much. I apologize. I only posted two reviews because they were recent and got me VIP access. I don't get anything for posting reviews older than 3 months, I think is the TER policy. I'll probably post them eventually. It's not a huge deal for me and I don't look down on people that aren't English majors or something like that. If you read some of the other comments on my post then you'll see that it is kind of a thing though for some people in some situations. Again, I meant no offense, just a curious interest.
... than a few misteaks in a provider's ads is what the ads reveal about her personality. Is she creative/inventive (eg clever subject line and/or content)? Does she have a sense of humor? Is she not full of herself, even if she's gorgeous? (Relates to sense of humor) Does she have a fun attitude towards her job? Etc.
And a sexy photo helps me ignore the grammar & spelling errors too.
That drives me up a fucking wall..saw one ad that had the following
300-HH
700-HR
1500-2HRS
Bitch what are you trying to say???....lol.
300-HH
700-HR
1500-2HRS
Bitch what are you trying to say???....lol.
1 HR $500
2 HR $1500
3 HR $3000
4 HR $4000
Nice banner ad pic right? lol
I hope that's done with a Sharpie!
Looks like a permanent tramp stamp to me baby lmao
Looking for small or unimportant errors or faults, especially in order to criticize unnecessarily.
Not important in who I select for a date and who choose to blow my load in at all.
I don't think I was criticizing anyone. I didn't call anyone out. I even said that performance was more important than grammar. It does obviously raise a question though as so many people have posted. I get hate too because I'm kind of a nerd. I used to hide it when i was young so i wouldnt get picked on. I'm not a genius and I'm not better than anyone else here or anywhere else. I see that this post struck a chord with a lot of people and upset some other people so I might have to see if I can get it taken down.
Like if I negotiate a 35% reduction in her rate, is she capable of figuring out what 35% is? LOL
I mean, I don't want to screw myself out of every possible discount I worked so hard to get.
language.
On a side note, have you ever read a review where the grammar and spelling were poor?
I could not agree more to this. It definitely reflects on the provider. Or even use spell check if they have to.
It can't be THAT important to you as you misspelled "grammar" lmao
I simply love it when pedantic putzes make mistakes while in the very process of criticizing others.
As for me, I hate to be a hypocrite. Pedantic putzes aside, minor grammatical and spelling errors don't bother me a bit, as I make them all the time myself. It does bother me a bit when a person completely butchers the English language. BBBBB was a perfect example of how NOT to write.
There are certain mistakes that really interfere with even the possibility of sex. Even the idea of deep kissing a women who has split an infinitive makes me at least mildly nauseated. I can get an erection and even have a climax with a woman who has a slight misspelling, but using the objective form of s noun which is clearly the subject of the phrase or sentence makes me absolutely impotent. In recent adds, providers (and many others) have misplaced the apostrophe in Presidents' Day ---placing it before the s. This was done by two of the most beautiful and passionate women I have ever known. I had booked a long double but of course after seeing that mistake in one of their ads and trying to get erect in their presence, that mistake made me have to give up and leave. (In fact I got home and had to take a shower right away. The thought of prolonged DATY with multiple climaxes and great skill full BJ to climax with women who would post an ad with such a mistake made me slightly nauseated.)
Misspelling is one thing, but grammatical mistakes not only interfered with any desire but often make me take to bed on a tea and toast diet for a few days.
If the ladies only knew how important good grammar is to the erection...
Great points Doc. But you might want to turn on your spell checker. I added parentheses around the problem area.
" I can get an erection and even have a climax with a woman who has a slight misspelling, but using the objective (form of s noun) which is clearly the subject of the phrase or sentence makes me absolutely impotent. "
is when they use symbols instead of letters and a bunch of emojies. This isn't a problem with ads on TER nor on the sites of girls I find here. The problem is the ones on BP and sites like it. The only up side to it is I don't have to look at their ads to know I don't want to see them. When I look at their pictures they are covered with tattoos and their hair is a color not found in nature.
Thanks for the feedback everyone! I had no idea that there would be so many responses and so many different opinions. I'm obviously not that experienced and I apologize if anyone was offended. I wasn't trying to be critical, just curious. I also had no idea that it's ok to use only one space after a sentence. Shit that's less typing for me hahaa! Much love to you all and good luck with everything you do!
I'm not bothered by a few misspellings or missed punctuation, well if she missed a period then you might have something to worry about haha! I've seen many more ads than providers like probably most people. Some are just awful, an entire page of one long sentence with no punctuation or some are so bad you can't even understand what they're saying. I won't/can't even read those and I move on. The "hooker math" (not my words) can be confusing too. Thanks again for the awesome responses!