It cuts both ways…..Last year I visited a resort in Cabo….booked with provider 3 weeks before who I found on P411. She required a deposit that I had to send to her friend since she claimed she did not have a Venmo account. Long story short I got stiffed. I was embarrassed and reported this experience to p411 and as far as I know she is still listed on P411. I reviewed her on TER and again reported I was ripped off. My review was accepted but much to my amazement when I clicked on her TER ID #, she delisted herself on TER. I contacted TER and all I was told was that the Provider is no longer listed on TER. Last time I checked, she had a profile on Tryst.link. I will not disclose her name here but will provide her name if you send me a private message. I feel that she conned TER administrators with a bogus story, and they took her word over mine as well as p411 administrators
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I just got verified on P411 as it seems many providers accept it and makes the screening process easy. Any tips on using the site. It’s seems there are a lot of girls on it, but no reviews here. They have OKs. I understand some ladies may not want to be in here. Is that a red flag? Do I trust the provider verification from P411 and the OKs?
Thanks for any help.
I would always read the providers website prior to contacting them directly. I do not trust anyone’s okays. I do not use p411 to screen potential clients. P411 is very specific they do not offer criminal background checks. I would never trust anyone to do my vetting.
Are you doing criminal background checks? 😱
QB has said in the past that she does a criminal background check and to be honest its not that hard. Sex offender registries are easy to search as well. I'll let QB answer for herself but I think she can handle doing a few searches on a couple of websites.
With RWI it's pretty trivial. Court records are generally public information and there are services out there like Intelius and TruthFinder that include criminal convictions in a person check.
I’m a VET. I have been around, since yellow pages ads. After being assaulted, and attempted rape by crazy clients it’s in my best interest to do criminal background checks on all potentially new friends. This industry is hard, and I have an entire family that relies on me. Sharing your energy is not something I want to do with just anyone who inquires.
P411 I have been on since the beginning when Gina ran the site it was way better. Recently, I logged on to my account & was asked to reverify who I am by providing a selfie 🤳 holding my ID, and a local newspaper 📰 with today’s date. I’m not doing that bs again & again. P411 can keep the $ credits I have on my account. I will no longer be advertising, or supporting p411.
Patricia4smiles 😆 I’m, so old-school. I will be 47 years old this October. Smile for me! 😁
Hi QueenBia, we require recent ID verification for our companion members. [email protected]
of course! many of us do!
I've read multiple posts from people on here that say they were approved for P411 without giving a shred of personal information - only based on references from providers.
That makes the entire platform compromised. It doesn't look like there are different levels of verification, but if you were admitted without any personal information, you should not be on the same tier as someone who had to provide it and go through the normal channels.
I agree that it might make some providers think twice about using it solo to screen.
I still may join if only to make life easier for me for those I do wish to see.
If you have two references (vouches) from verified P411 Companions, you can use them instead of providing personal information. New applicants with these two P411 Companion references qualify for a free 3-month trial membership.
and many clients share accounts.. I dont take ok's only for screening.
P411 is only intended to be used as one tool in the verification process. We do not offer criminal background checks on applicants for either companions or admirers.
Some providers I want to see appear to accept it by itself.
How intrusive is the work verification? Do they call or send a test email?
They sent an email to work email with a code, which I had to send back through my personal/hobby email. It looked like a spam email, so very under the radar.
We have to submit personal information to prove who we are and that we are over the age of 18 to be on P411. If a provider scams a client or forges OKs they can be kicked off the platform. To be approved by P411 a provider has to have reviews somewhere on some review site. I just checked my P411 account and it is linked to TER for my reviews. I am not aware of any process of a provider being approved for P411 without having published reviews.
A provider can also be approved to join P411 if several P411 client members 'vouch' for her.
Here is the actual wording they have posted on the P411 website (copy and paste). I am not able to locate anything saying they will approve accounts without reviews.
How to sign up for a Preferred411 account:
Companion accounts are always free for legitimate companions with good reviews. If you do not have reviews posted by established reviewers, you will not be approved for a P411 Companion account.
Enjoy the following features!
Preferred411 companions enjoy the following features:
View member profiles 24/7. See which companions have given that member an okay.
Give members your okay after meeting so other companions can view.
Create your own P411 web page that can be used for advertising.
Earn P411 Points good for gift certificates and upgrades to your listing.
To verify a non-P411 companion, we accept vouches from P411 Admirers in good standing with 5 or more Okays.
Miss Scarlet, you are right, I remember needing a certain amount of published review history before I could get accepted on P411. The only way I can see a P411 provider not having reviews is if they delisted or had their information removed from review sites after their accounts were established.
They should lose their P411 account if they feel the need to do that.
To be approved by P411 a provider has to have reviews somewhere on some review site.
I have a "no sex with you policy" for providers who think this is a good idea.
Fortunately P411 also lets admirers filter out any providers who have no reviews ("Only Show Companions with Reviews"). I, of course, do this always.
It’s (sic) seems there are a lot of girls on it, but no reviews here.
They have OKs.
Many ladies accept P411 for screening. However every lady has to do their own things to feel safe.
I just reached out to a lady on P411 and she looked at my profile, with about 80 okays, but still wanted my personal info. I passed considering that I didn't know much about her.
I have had no problems providing PII in the past in order to see Queen Bia and Miss Scarlet and I have met both of them. Everyone, on both sides, has to do what makes them comfortable.
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First, welcome to P411. I've been a member here for quite a while. It's my understanding, that sometimes gentlemen can receive invitations and don't have to give personal info to become a member.
For me, P411 is one way for ladies to check okays as part of verifying, but not the be all end all to insure i gent is safe to see. I also participate in giving references and many ladies have been happy to give them to me.
Steph XO
I had to give some personal info and work verification. I also had a TER handle / history as well as a P411 reference.
Now I see where you mentioned that further up this thread. I think you'll find it useful. It's not as popular as it used to be. I still recommend it so enjoy what it brings to the table.
Steph XO
I was a member of P411 for a couple of years and accumulated nearly a dozen okays. After they changed ownership and raised rates, I reflected that I wasn't getting that much benefit from being a member. Pivoting, I became a member of a half-dozen agencies in my area, which worked out well for me, since I get variety without the hassle of repeated screening. P411 mainly deals with independents and most of them won't accept P411 okays alone for vetting.
I wish P411 did do more in depth screening, or at the very least offered a tiered option so a gal could choose if they are OK seeing a client with the lower screening level.
You can't make blanket statements like that.
One added bonus with p411. Every now and then a UTR will list herself. Typically she used to work for an agency and thus had reviews but now only lists on P411 - no website, Tryst or other web presence. Of course she would now have a no review policy.
In the northeast, it looks like about 1 in 10 or so would roughly fit the UTR category.
If a lady is on P411 I wouldn't consider her UTR.
second this opinion. I think it is a good strategy for providers to list occasionally on P411 to get a new client or two while remaining otherwise UTR. Especially useful if they are not touring and not high volume but basing their business on small number of long-term clients. Personally met a wonderful someone just this way.
I solely use p411. I would never send out my personal info to a provider. Not safe!
Reading this thread, I think it’s important to clarify that P411 makes screening easier, not optional.
Yes, it’s a great tool. Yes, many providers accept it because it streamlines verification. But it’s not a universal pass to skip every safety step. Even P411 **itself** recommends that providers confirm a client’s ID on arrival to make sure the account hasn’t been shared, stolen, or compromised.
Per P411: "If a client refuses to show ID at the door when this has been communicated upfront, P411 recommends the provider decline the appointment and report the account."
Providers are encouraged to notify clients during booking if they’ll expect an ID check, so the client can opt out if they’re not comfortable. Which is why I always inform P411 clients that they may be required to show their ID upon arrival. In the end, about 90% end up verifying with ID just to make me feel more comfortable.
So, no... if a provider is on P411 but doesn’t have TER reviews, that’s not a red flag. Many women deliberately avoid public review boards to maintain control over their brand, privacy, or rates.
And no... using P411 doesn’t automatically mean you’ll never be asked for any personal info or face-to-face ID confirmation. That’s a misconception that puts both providers and clients at unnecessary risk.
What many clients miss is that screening isn’t just about protecting them or us individually; it’s about protecting both parties, past and present. It’s making sure neither of us ends up in a compromising situation that forces us to turn heel at the last minute. Screening is what allows us to show up fully, safely, and confidently—and that’s in everyone’s best interest.
Hope that helps clarify some things!
Thank you Paige for once again explaining in the most up front, impartial fashion!!
You made a great point that people seem to forget - aside from safety, thorough screening also helps us ensure that our lives don't intersect in ways neither of us would feel comfortable with. Screening with ID can avoid that.
Here is another quote directly from the P411 admirer sign up page:
"Preferred411 is a tool used by many companions to help in the screening process. They are still welcome to do as much extra screening as they feel is necessary to protect themselves, so please don't be surprised or offended if you are occasionally asked for additional info."
There are many ladies who accept only P411 okays, but there are also many who ask for more info. I use P411 okays as a reference exchange list, but do my own screening. I am responsible for keeping myself safe and happy, I don't rely on some unknown strangers who run a website to ensure my safety and peace.
It cuts both ways…..Last year I visited a resort in Cabo….booked with provider 3 weeks before who I found on P411. She required a deposit that I had to send to her friend since she claimed she did not have a Venmo account. Long story short I got stiffed. I was embarrassed and reported this experience to p411 and as far as I know she is still listed on P411. I reviewed her on TER and again reported I was ripped off. My review was accepted but much to my amazement when I clicked on her TER ID #, she delisted herself on TER. I contacted TER and all I was told was that the Provider is no longer listed on TER. Last time I checked, she had a profile on Tryst.link. I will not disclose her name here but will provide her name if you send me a private message. I feel that she conned TER administrators with a bogus story, and they took her word over mine as well as p411 administrators
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You don't want to list her name here, so someone else can get screwed? If you're not going to name her publicly, then don't bring it up.
Yup and don’t do deposits 😂
Hi Angel4Life, I sent you a private message for more info about this incident.
From Nicole on another post several years ago:
I'm Nicole, the manager of Preferred411 and a friend of Gina's (the owner) from when we were in high school!
If you are an established client with two excellent provider references, you need not give us your full "real" name or divulge any employment info. We aren't concerned with WHO you are, we only want to verify that you are a legitimate client with a good reputation in the community.
If you don't have references, and end up having to give us some personal information so that we can verify you and your employment, we delete and destroy that information once you've been approved. Keeping your private information private is our #1 concern, because it would mean the end of our very successful business if we didn't, so the best way to ensure it is safe is to destroy it.
In addition, if you have two excellent provider reference you are also eligible for a six month free trial, no credit card needed and no strings attached. If you decide to renew your membership after the free trial ends, we have a number of anonymous payment options if you prefer not to use a credit card.
Please feel free to contact us any time, via LiveChat, telephone or email with any questions. We are here to help and can handle nearly every situation with no trouble at all. After all, this is what we do!
Nicole
Gina was running the show then and was a total pro. I took her at her word that the info I provided would be destroyed once I was approved and I have never had any reason to doubt that was done.
I understand why some girls need additional screening and that's fine. I generally would take a pass on them, but all's fair.
When I joined in 2017 it was using a referral from a single provider. I never provided any personal information whatsoever.
I have had clients state they use their buddies account to book dates. I see how this is totally unsafe. Any provider can lie to get anyone access. No real verification it’s not a screening website. Yes it costs to advertise & we are sharing our clients by giving okays. Trusting people you don’t know to be honest. 🤔
Why am I a reputable provider who has been around, since the beginning not get the same privilege of not providing my real life information? Think about it. Why should I have to continuously provide selfies, newspaper photos, and government ID?
P411 did not require ID from providers until Sesta/Fosta.
Yes, Meena, this is correct.
People who do that are very stupid and should lose their p411 credentials, imo. I also think you should report guys who tell you this to help ensure the integrity of the system. I also think that would be extremely rare. Personally, I have never even told anyone in my real life that I hobby, let alone that I have a p411 id. The only way to keep a secret is never tell anyone, and even then you have to be very careful.
Yes, I am a P411 Admin and have been with P411 since its inception 20 years ago. You may reach me directly at: [email protected] or [email protected]
check out their page @preferred411
What's the point? All the pictures are of the same woman.
Rose Gold that’s amazing looking at your review history. I would have expected top tier TER reviews here. I looked up ig @ preferred411 all the photos per to be you is that true? Odd.
Thanks for chiming in. Smile for me! 😁
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I know this is a fact. Providers who have been booked by a husband & serviced a couple. I think 🤔 me personally I like to verify whom I share my energy with my risk my personal safety. Providers okays and you believe someone you don’t know has your best interests at hand. I used to meet everyone who utilized my personal vouch for using my escort agency in person to verify with real life ID.
I appreciate everything that was added here I won’t continue. I love the freedom this industry gives us providers! This is literally the best lifestyle in the World.
For all the nay sayer's take a minute and breathe. P411 is not perfect but the hobby would be much worse off without it.
X, Instagram and Tryst are full of mostly scammers. In comparison p-411 looks like a public library ! I am a long time member and will continue to pay for the service and appreciate it. Like many have said its a tool, and a damn good one for me. For those who don't like it for whatever reason, just simply state on your sight you don't use p-411 and don't nock it here. Many providers to there advantage have p-411 preferred on there sight or p-411 number. I for one will visit those ladies first.
I’ve only had one bad experience on p411. It’s a great tool in my book,.
+1
P411 is my friend.
I personally have just done my #’s this year & it’s not in my best interest to continue to support sites that I do not get bookings. Nothing personal it’s just business. I went through the money spent this year paying to advertise on all platforms it’s not beneficial for me personally. I paid way to much for top placement, gif flashing thumbnails, visiting ads, premium it’s not work it because I get solid bookings without the bullshit from TER & X for less time and money wasted. Value. OF is a bonus. Let’s also add virtual fun that’s a huge percentage of my monthly income. Multiple streams…
Moving forward I am focusing on my friends. Regulars who continue to support me. 🥰💋❤️ I love my small circle! ⭕️
Why does QueenBia have such a problem with P-411 ? Lots of supporters of P-411 on TER and only one (QB) who truly slams it every chance she gets. I wonder if she receives money, endorsements other other free services for bad mouthing P-411 ? I have no idea but it does seem strange she would devote so much time to badmouthing p-411 on this post and has for for years on TER. LETS DO A POLL ON WHO LIKES P-411 ????
I suspect it might be 50 to 1 with QB being on the lower side ?