I am single so no SO to be concerned about. Talking, texting, or e-mail doesn't matter when or how I communicate because no one will know or care. My voice mails and/or texts are my own business. However my kids and family would be another story so this part of my life is my own.
Not to mention a boss, or a wife, or anyone else who's opinion really means two shits to me, virtually everyone I know knows that I am a whore mongering pig.
I can't say I would recommend my approach for anyone who has a lot to lose, but the way I look at it, if we are ever going to get our Draconian prostitution laws reversed, SOMEBODY is going to have to stand up and be counted. Can you imagine if no gays were ever willing to come out of the closet? it would still be ok to bash "faggots" and discriminate against them the same way that a person can lose their reputation, the job and even their freedom for doing what we do.
People I met in the hobby are the only ones who know. It will stay that way for me until LE in America, "the land of the free", stops publicly humiliating johns and providers.
It wasn't that long ago that gays were humiliated by being outed, now rarely does anyone give a fuck.
I stick to my point, if you cowards ever want your "hobby" to be accepted, stop sneaking around in the shadows like you have something to be ashamed of.
This reminds me of a friend of mine in Georgia who was gay, he was a pretty stout dude, but his boyfriend was a queen. He used to go into bars and before anyone could say a word he would introduce himself and then go on to to say "and this is my boyfriend, anyone want to make something of it?" No one ever said shit.
I don't go around bragging that I fuck prostitutes, but I don't deny it when the subject comes up, and I take a page out of my gay friend's book, and simply answer "yeah, I fuck hookers, so fucking what"
Some guys have jobs that require clearances and can't have arrest records. Some have families and shouldn't really be doing this. Some don't want to risk job loss cuz they work for a company with bs uptight ethics policies and isn't interested in switching jobs. Not everyone is their own boss or blackmail proof like you. Not everyone wants the attention drawn to them. How exactly is it cowardly to try and preserve their job and a stable family/raise their children, aside from the fact that they are cheating on their SO? Not everyone wants to go up against uncle Sam cuz theres more to lose at the immediate moment.
I'm not interested in being an activist or have my face all over local news like Belle Knox trying to prove some point or to gain attention. I'm interested in laying low and minding my own business at the present moment. This is only a part time thing for me and it isn't something I'm gonna devote my resources or the time trying to change things with uncle sam. I'll let those who have nothing to lose, the financial resources, and the belly to fight it, fight that fight.
If however a pro-hobby candidate runs for office, I'll vote for him. That'll be the extent of my activism for now.
and you can only be humiliated if you are ashamed of what you've done.
If a person is arrested for marijuana use today, he is hardly "humiliated" by the experience, He will be irate, pissed off, scathing fucking mad, but not humiliated.
As for the rest of your points, I already stipulated to most of them in my first post on the subject, People who have a lot to lose like married men, and people with jobs they could lose are quite correctly protecting themselves with their silence, but there are an awful lot of single/divorced guys like myself who have little to lose, cry all day about how unfair the law is, but won't tell their best friend that they patronize prostitutes and then wonder why the law doesn't change. Those are the guys I am singling out.
Even if I was arrested for mj I'd feel humiliated if a crappy looking mugshot was posted. They can at least take some professional quality photos lol
other than that, I would just be angry
and I have already had a mug shot posted online when I was "outed"by a coward who thought it would ruin me. It wasn't for solicitation and I was acquitted. I am only mentioning it here to show that this is not just speculation on my part. I bet you hundreds of TER members among other people have seen my picture splashed all over the internet. It had zero effect on my life and as a matter of fact, I even received a few emails and PM from ladies commenting that I didn't look too bad for an "old guy"
People only have power over you if you let them. I am waaaay too lazy, and have waaaay too much self respect to live my life as a lie. Anyone who doesn't like what I do can GFY
"Have no shame" is an idiomatic expression.
Whoremonger being one word, using it as a modifier requires a hyphen: "whore-mongering pig."
Any time two nouns are used as an adjective (a/k/a modiphier) they must be hyphenated. But I know for a fact GaG is drunk tonight, so he gets a pass
I used the noun modifier because a hyphen would be used for both adjectives and adverbs in cases like this. Unless the first word of the adverbs before adjectives ended in "ly." Except in cases like lily-liveried or curly-haired. But otherwise. Just wanted to keep it clear. That's all.
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You get the PMSOTY trophy for sounding like you're going through PMS all year long. LMFA
If you want people to know about your private life, just tell one person.. If you don't, keep it to yourself so you won't have to track down the sources..
I have a couple of people who know who have known for years. They are very close. They also know that I do this and did Porn because I am a Nymphomaniac and they love me for me! They always have.... Friends (if they are real they should understand). If they are family and they do not understand then they should just accept you for who you are and still love you. That is just love. If they are true friends then it is the same. If neither then .... who knows... You just have to know your friends and family I guess.
Love,
Zana
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Thanks Honey!! I loved making it!!!!!
Love
Zana
While it's painful to join the two RT's, my God yes those vids are hot!
"Lie to no one, for if it's someone you care about, you'll ruin your relationship with a lie. If it's someone you don't care about, who the Hell are they that you have to lie to them anyway"?
-- Willie Nelson's character in the movie "The Thief"
The trick is to not give some people the information or reason to ask you a question that you may have to tell an uncomfortable truth.
to let something slip when he has had one drink too many or gets pissed at you for something and just blurts it out to your SO or family.
I was referred to him from one of the bouncers at a well-known strip club in the Boston area as I had kind of a connection with getting appointments from that place. ages ago not now. he was handsome he was good to me things worked out I was happy so I decided to kinda just go move in with him I wasn't doing well at this kind of work at the time anyhow I was having kind of a hard time with it was pretty grateful he came along I met him. then I began training at his business and he was going to fire the secretary there and I was learning how to find certain car parts online and then you have to like put them into the computer all the stuff. so I remember him taking me shopping and I bought a lot of like nice clothes that were kind of mature. We went the loft store.
then I moved in with him and his kids on the vineyard
when I took him home to meet my mom and my dad they are divorced but my father happens to be at my mothers and I let him eat both of them my father cried when he saw how nice I looked and was dressed and he was really filled with joy that this client was taking me in and being good to me.
and they were happy to see me doing so well and they were happy to know I was going to be safe.
everyone in my family has always known I do things other people don't I've done a lot worse things than escorting escorting is the least of their worries with me.......
I think my leaving my red vinyl nurse dress out at age 18 when I was a dancer at service industry night at man ray.
Oh god . Now that horrified them. The fact I dont work and have mainly same circle on a rotation. My mum is familiar and met the closer ones. The one coming sat she met and knows.
The one last sat. I refer to as my electrician friend so n so. She know his real name when I mention him. My mother offer to co sign for condo at marina if I get a normal job. Its like I def want to become more productive. I am not doing this to stack.money never have. Either its I have grown horribly codependent or something.
To a certain extent if your life needs that you dont bring up hobby by all means. For me I readily mention U do massages and get alot new clients that way. Thats a thrill for me.
I will be havin my bf move in nov 2015' even.he accepts I dont wanna be changed. If you dont like the way Ichoose to live my life your free to notbe a part of it. ! 
And ge says I know! U know I never try to change you. He is cool.
I cant see shackn up with a mate thats not free spirited . Humans are NOT meant to be monogonous. Its the most ridicukous expectation to put on some one. Especially. Especially a male.
I dont get why the guys get in these lives if they arent happy. ?
Why not just say honey. I am never gonna be a one woman guy. Either we agree I can.play or not. If some one love you. Compromise is like so important! IF NOT FOR THE MARRIAGES BUILT ON.DECIET AND LIES. I D BE OUT OF JOB SO HEY GODDESS BLESS YOUR DEAR HEARTS
about not giving a shit if I guy you saw many times died? Didn't you say you could care less?
Myabe you're just doing damage control now since every guy in town knows how you really feel
She is a true vixen.
Watch out! She may bite you...
I guarantee you will like it.
But, yeah, she's a wild child and last week's post notwithstanding, has a heart of gold. I didn't know until her post here that she'd been to the Vineyard. I tried to get her out to Nantucket but we couldn't make it happen. Had to go all the way to her North Shore sex den to see her, but it was worth it. I still have the pix.
I have zero muscles. I have lots of shitty tattoos.
I used to be a musician..
Am I cool in your book now?
Or do I have to be 6'5 and built?
I wonder what a girl like you finds attractive in men..
Seriously... I do:..
I also keep my "civvies" to myself. The way I look at it, one's sex life is one's own business. I don't want to hear about anyone's sex life. Usually it makes me jealous. I don't even LIKE to read TER reviews. I feel odd writing them-- sort of a kiss-and-tell thing. Talking about sex in the abstract has been sort of necessary for me, and I have no problem with that, but as far as letting people in my professional or social life know that i visit a paid provider, I wouldn't even feel comfortable talking about that.
That said, I take no pains to keep these activities "secret." Having a secret opens one up to the danger of blackmail, or to being exposed as something other than how one presents oneself to the world.
Maybe in my case, people would be less shocked to learn of such things than they would be about some other men. Still, I like to keep personal things to myself.
I was, am a very shy person..
I was so excited about the hobby once I found out about stuff like TER.
I was so proud of myself I couldn't help but brag.
Only my best friends of course..
One of them decided to out me to a civie girl that I was in Love with..
Crushed me...
Never ever tell.. We are a close knit family that way...
It will only bite you in the ass if you try to be honest..
Belive TheHound.. He learned the hard way.
I have regretted it every single day since then. I am now waiting for the day it will bite me in the ass. I am wondering who else he must have told that to.
I am going to have to rectify that situation one day by telling that guy that I am a liar and it never happened. Of course, in saying that, that in its self would be a lie, but at least the guy will no longer believe what I told him before about my hobbying.
Better to always just STFU and say nothing to anybody about hobbying.
Then it will be cool. Otherwise, best to keep this game secret. From everybody, no exceptions. As with everything else, have a cover story and contingency plans in advance just in case.
Hi there peeps
It's best kept quiet .. Happy days
Aussie Alley
Xo
I know he does and maybe he suspects I do but nothing is ever, or will ever, be said...at least not by me. If he ever decides to confide I'll say "good for you, have fun" and that will be the end of it. I've no need to share this aspect of my life, except through the anonymous vicarity of this board. In fact I rather enjoy keeping it secret...not too long ago another friend confided he's cheating on his wife and showed me a picture of the girl he keeps on his phone (dumbass); she's butt ugly and I'm internally laughing my ass off thinking "dude, if you only knew what I've been up to and with girls so hot you'd shit yourself if I was stupid enough to keep pictures on my phone!"
Neither of these two gents are him...and I wouldn't tell him either
This is Illegal & frowned upon by our Puritan do-gooders... If you tell anyone, you have to worry about them slipping up or deliberately blurting out something stupid. THEY have nothing to lose but you do. WHY would you give someone the power to ruin your life?
Guys who also partake.. One I have been in VIP rooms sharing strippers with
The other 2 are friends at work who also like to see girls.. They are not as active as I am (once a week it seems, but I am trying to cut back)....They ask my advice butwill not joing TER.. andseem to use BP more than I would like them to.. They get someone's phone# and come to me to see if there are any reviews.. they also max out at about $200 an hour it seems..
and I made sure that he did not put my dalliances with different ladies into the medical record. He personally knows and can keep me fully screened and tuned up functionally, (he's very sympathetic to it, BTW). But he always keeps the details out of the EMR itself and even the page in the EMR that says at the top "This page is for recording things not suitable for the medical record". Most people don't know that page in their EMR or chart exists, but because of the nature of my job, that kind of stuff is open book.
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It's hard to say, but as far as acquaintances and family, the answer is an emphatic NO.
There's no upside to doing so, and plenty of downside.
I'm not much into the whole confession scene, but if ever I feel the need to do so, I'll jot down my reminisces and lock them away until the day I'm pushing up daisies.
In light of the fact that your ex "caught" you, don't you think she blabbed to everyone with an ear and even those without?
But that HE wasn't the one to tell anyone not in the hobby.
Come on man! It's Saturday and I have nothing to do for a couple of hours. I read the thread and understood it's contents. Don't be so "factsy"
and so didn't pay no mind to what she said.
As for her own friends, no skin off my nose.
Here's a song that expresses it for me:
especially when they interfere with our mongering.
..because he does it too so he knows what this world is all about. Nice to have someone to share stories with.
My best friend and I have known each other for 50 years. I've told him things I never told my ex-wife or even my shrink, and he's shared the same sort of secrets with me.
He's also dabbled (massage parlors), so it's not like this is new to him. He was also looking into booking with a provider in his town, but decided he couldn't afford it.
I used to do a little whoring with my friend from college, but he stopped seeing hookers. I was always a little worried that something might slip out about it and get back to my then wife. He never said anything but it was a concern for a while whith his drinking that something might come out. It's much better not having anyone know and not having to worry about that.
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about your hobby life or do you keep it entirely to yourself? I'm pretty sure I know how some would react, but not so sure about others. I would never discuss it with anyone I work with but outside of that, maybe. Thus far, I haven't told a sole and I don't feel a great need to but am curious how others feel about it.
Few meaning two people know. My best friend and a family member. I needed to know one or two trusted people close to me knew. I would never suggest they do it, however. But how do you really not suggest it when they see you helping them financially with the income? lol.
I have one friend, who used to hobby a little bit, that knows that I've done it but we really don't bring it up anymore. I see no value in talking about it and it's rarely even mentioned, between the two of us or about other friends that may or may not hobby.
As far as anyone else knowing about it, no friggin' way.
The only way two people can keep a secret is if one of them is dead. Probably was not Franklin that said it but it fits.
With a gentleman I was seeing he was in town on vacation with a whole bunch of friends.
As we were talking he was saying how the guys are probably wondering why is he still taking a nap in the middle of the day in vegas on vacation?That is the excuse he used to get away from the friends for a couple of hours.I asked him if any of his friends know that he sees provider.
He replied "Absolutely not!"
What was funny he mentioned how he has a friend who was also in town who does see a provider.
When he asked his friend for specifics on the lady he would not mention anything not even if he found her here or even online.I said to him"Well since your friend mentioned providers you don't feel comfortable telling him?"He replied again "Absolutely not.Just because he sees a lady doesn't mean I have to put my business out there."
Better to keep it to yourself if seeing providers you never know telling a friend to day and they can be a possible enemy tomorrow.
No need to give anyone ammunition to possibly use against you later.Unless you are like some of the guys here who are quite open with what they do.They are an exception.
I did once and then later she started to make threats to tell my SO about it. Was wanting money and gifts for her silence. Ended up having to threaten her to get her to stop. Was not a good situation. So NEVER tell especially if that knowledge could hurt someone else like SO or kids etc..
To them how they could see them . Basically go pro ? Had a friend who got busted cheating on his wife so I use him as an example ( he fucked a civvie the misses caught him , they ain't so dumb , lol ) , but for me most wouldn't understand the girls or the guys so , no ...many would blab most people are BITCHES ! yup they r ...
Posted By: ctriver424
about your hobby life or do you keep it entirely to yourself? I'm pretty sure I know how some would react, but not so sure about others. I would never discuss it with anyone I work with but outside of that, maybe. Thus far, I haven't told a sole and I don't feel a great need to but am curious how others feel about it.
a hottie herself. She was surprised, as I'm about as straight-laced as they come (or I used to be anyway).
But over the years, she's told me plenty of secrets about her life too.
She was really not very judgemental at all.
Was a nice relief to tell someone.
Of course, she did say she thought I should stop (for LE and safety reasons mainly). I did for awhile, but for the moment I'm back in.
Immediate gratification is hard to resist.
but she knows nothing about my postmarital providers. No one outside of TER or the providers themselves will ever hear it from my lips.
I work for a religious organization so I could never risk telling a single soul outside of TER and the providers I see.
Discrete with my business.
Even more discrete when it comes to The Hobby!
My plans to rent porn stars when my ship comes in.
