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OK, so answer the question
allcomers 119 reads
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As you quoted me: "why should I name names, what good would it do?"
 
* Show me an example of where this was done and it had a positive outcome.
 
* Explain to me why it shouldn't be left up to TER to deal with him after I report the details.
 
* Show me where I told you or even implied you "need to provide any input on improvements."
 
* "30% of the posts are from you"... in a thread I started. Shockingly inappropriate!! LOL. People post comments and points, I respond. And you have a problem with that? If so, maybe that's something I should have added to the attached post. "Improvement" is only a dirty word to the hopelessly entrenched.
 
* Look at the attached post. You fit paras 2 and 4.
 
NOTE: In your "Of FFS" post, I actually mostly agree with your second paragraph. Nice suggestion, with a few tweaks, of a process improvement. Keep it up.

allcomers4821 reads

Too funny: I just saw a review that looked fishy. Too few words, a girl that left town a couple months ago, a description of services that no girl at that agency would provide (trust me on that), etc. So I looked at his reviews and there was a pronounced pattern that looked like he wrote just enough reviews to keep up with the days that had passed. So I loaded his data in a spreadsheet and, sure enough, he's writing just enough, and I mean only enough, reviews to keep free status. And he's been doing it for years!
 
Sure, maybe he's seeing even more girls than he's reviewing and only submits enough to stay current. But this girl's not there anymore!
 
You don't think that hurts all of us? You don't think TER could do a better job? You still don't think TER needs to improve it review screening processes? Sheesh. Wake up guys. Wait, what am I saying...wake up TER!

An invalid review will be removed, and you get 2 days VIP as a bonus.

allcomers160 reads

I know. Trust me, I've used it. Using it was how I discovered that TER gave bonus days for anything, much less reviews!

Do you have any clue how stupid that makes you look?
Obviously not.
Grow up.

You nailed it. Allcomers presents as a passive-aggressive little shit stain. Took time to non-answer every post on here when he could have just posted the link to the allegedly suspect review.

Looks like a rocket felcher wannabe if you ask me, including posting under an alias like rocket did when he first joined TER.

So, anyone who tries to instigate change, point out problems, and is willing to argue and defend his points "looks" like me to yall?

LOL

 
Old geezers really must despise any friction and new kids on the block.

allcomers171 reads

Even you and I have had our differences, but it remains civil. What is it with all the juvenile posts? Sure it's off-putting when I say things like, "it's none of your business," and maybe I should be more careful, but still. And what really give the lack of a cogent argument away is when the resort to personal insults and name calling...THAT is pathetic.

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Oops, that came out wrong. The first sentence was meant for you, the rest for dinky and bad date. I hope you figured that out. LOL.

I’m not surprised: the angry little felcher has chimed in. I wonder whether he’ll try to get this thread removed by Admin like the one yesterday where his assholery was exposed by a number of us?

I did NOT ask anyone from TER staff or anyone else to remove that thread, or any other thread ever. The only thing I did was send some pms to the op of that thread asking him to at least tell the whole story.

 
I don't run and cry to the mods. It's ironic you tlalk about integrity when you're assuming things that are blatantly wrong.

-- Modified on 9/25/2021 8:19:21 PM

It's been that way for years.

 
I've gotten quite a few fake reviews from people who roughly fit that pattern but many simply change handles/accounts regularly to fly under the radar.  

 
These guys who fake-review me assume I'm so busy that either A)  I don't check  or B) I wouldn't be able to recognize a falsie or C) that all providers want positive reviews so I/we won't care.      

 
TER used to follow up and frequently removed these but not anymore.      
They did add a line regarding "provider disputes this....."  to my last fake review but that was it.

-- Modified on 9/24/2021 9:12:33 AM

allcomers127 reads

Yes, allll the time, and I know enough to say that from just a few months of reading reviews and, now, board posts. Yet you get all these skeptics that are aghast that this is happening, even more so that I would put it out in public. The push-back I'm getting on exposing areas where, in a vast understatement, there's room for improvement in the TER review processes make me think that, perhaps for some of them, it's a case of, "The [man] doth protest too much, methinks."
 
The TER review processes are a mess. I didn't know how it affected providers, so thanks for that insight.

allcomers149 reads

What makes you think you deserve details? You don't. Innocent until proven guilty. You know if happens, and now I have all but proved it to myself.

Posted By: allcomers

Too funny: I just saw a review that looked fishy. Too few words, a girl that left town a couple months ago, a description of services that no girl at that agency would provide (trust me on that), etc. So I looked at his reviews and there was a pronounced pattern that looked like he wrote just enough reviews to keep up with the days that had passed. So I loaded his data in a spreadsheet and, sure enough, he's writing just enough, and I mean only enough, reviews to keep free status. And he's been doing it for years!  
   
 Sure, maybe he's seeing even more girls than he's reviewing and only submits enough to stay current. But this girl's not there anymore!  
   
 You don't think that hurts all of us? You don't think TER could do a better job? You still don't think TER needs to improve it review screening processes? Sheesh. Wake up guys. Wait, what am I saying...wake up TER!

allcomers142 reads

No, I -- "of course" -- PMed him to give him a chance to explain how he reviewed a girl I know and who left months ago. I'll give it a couple days. He made the additional mistake of incorrectly describing the apartment, in addition to the review details that reek of fiction.
 
There's another wrinkle, though: I don't know if I even want to report it to TER. Let them figure it out. Or, better yet, let them humble themselves enough to ask for help! What do you think the chance of that are?? Not going to happen.
 
Here's a sample that could used by TER to figure out for themselves who it is. Do you see the pattern that jumped off the screen as soon as it flickered to life? Now do the math. LOL.:
 
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Git outta heah. I doubt most scammers are as blatant as this.

My dude, I fully commend and applaud your effort, but you should just say his name.

I think ter is understaffed and none of those guys will take your pattern, sadly enough. Just say the name.

 
I would also say not every review "for VIP" is a fake. Someone just might be lazy in writing a review until their vip runs out. But in general, I dig your research and give you a dap and a dab. Keep it going dude, imo TER neeslds dudes like you

allcomers136 reads

Without question, there are other explanations for the patterns, and I want to emphasize that. That's why I would not "out" him. The fake review is not as defensible. The two together made me laugh.
 
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." By themselves, the dates are not enough, but they are interesting! LOL.

so we can read his reviews, I will add that there are hundreds of guys with a similar pattern of reviews.  Their budget allows for two or three sessions a month, and that gets them VIP status if they review every provider they see, but its a by-product of their hobby budget level, nothing more.  

 
Now, if there are ALSO contradictions in reviews about girls you have seen, then I think its fair to call him out for fake reviews.  If a guy puts up a profile and says "no tattoos" and then you see the girl shortly after and she has a massive tattoo that is not new and covers her whole back, its fair to report the review as a fake.  There is no way he could have missed it if he really saw the girl.  I think before calling someone out on a fake review, you have to establish in your mind that there is something about the girl or the session location that he got wrong.  The fakeness is usually in the details, but its often impossible to catch details that are wrong unless YOU have seen the girl too at the same location.

figure out for themselves who it is.   TER wants MORE reviews, not fewer reviews.  It's up to all of us to check for fake reviews and report them to get them removed..  You're doing a great job but you're way off base if you expect TER to "figure it out" or "humble themselves enough to ask for help."

allcomers154 reads

...just like every other major forum on the Web. This is what I want them to see. This is what I want other users to see as being what will greatly improve the usefulness of reviews and get them to get involved in bringing it to the attention of TER. It's too easy to just say, uncle. Already in another thread there's a bit of an awakening. Just a bit.
 
I get it. I get the resignation thoughtful users like you guys have expressed in response to my threads/posts.
 
We should all want TER to save themselves from the rut they're stuck in. TER is either in such financial straits that they can only tread water or they lack imagination. I think it's the latter.

TER was originally run by the owner/founder.  It quickly became too much for one person to manage.  When I started back in 2004 each local board had a local moderator.  There were rumors of girls giving Mod's freebies to gain favor...not intending to digress here.

At some point TER was sold [to a company in Holland I believe] and run more as a profit center rather than a whoremonger buddy group.

I dropped off TER when USA reviews were removed, due to passage of FOSTA/SESTA?!?  USA reviews came back but most TER readers/posters did not.  Local board volumes are now a small fraction of what they once were.

That's my summary of 17 years in 3 paragraphs.

allcomers124 reads

That was anything BUT off topic. If somebody could point me to a post that takes your three paragraph summary and goes into gory detail, I'd like to see it.  
 
That they used to have local mods, even if the mods themselves weren't watched closely enough, is indicative of a forum that started out with best practices in place. Going bad when an entity swooped in and looked at it solely as a profit source is the "hedge fund" model that has fucked up a lot of good businesses from consumer point of view. This really explains a lot. Thanks.  
 
It actually gives me hope that somebody at TER with a business mind will realize that, if what I've read on this very platform is true about their decline, there are ways they can make the site more appealing again. Maybe they can never restore the glory-years, but increased profitability is, I think, a real possibility. It starts with pleasing your customers.
 
Again, thanks.

Posted By: allcomers
Re: Of course, you HAVE reported him to TER, right?
No, I -- "of course" -- PMed him to give him a chance to explain how he reviewed a girl I know and who left months ago. I'll give it a couple days. He made the additional mistake of incorrectly describing the apartment, in addition to the review details that reek of fiction.  
   
 There's another wrinkle, though: I don't know if I even want to report it to TER. Let them figure it out. Or, better yet, let them humble themselves enough to ask for help! What do you think the chance of that are?? Not going to happen.
Ah, the plot thickens, you didn't mention on the outset that you knew the woman  (before you say it, I am NOT claiming that you were obligated to include that tidbit). Well played, Mr. Bond. So that's why you could be sure his information was false, well played indeed. You know which of your cards to put on the table, and which to hold. The fact that you know she's retired or semi-retired or UTR or whatever is more icing on the cake. It helps bury the bad guy even deeper. I also like the PM you sent giving him a chance to explain himself if he so desires. Had you put any of that extra info in the original post, it might have made a difference on how some of us have responded.  

You display cunning and insight, but you drop the ball on assuming that TER personnel should or could or can catch it all on their own. It's almost as if you're pointing out to the cops the broken window where the burglar entered and exited the store and telling them that you know the identity, yet telling the cops that they have to figure everything out on their own.

Others here have brought up TER's manpower issues. It's not completely feasible to say it's up to them to catch everything without a little help from eyes and ears of the membership at large.  

We'll all see how this string plays out. I, for one, will be watching intently.

allcomers124 reads

It's a case of the fingers moving faster than the brain. It would have helped -- a lot -- if I had made that clear. I think I cursorily assumed that since I was saying I knew she had left it would be clear that I knew her. That was a bit too obtuse a reference to my knowing her. And I did it again...I had to come back and edit this reply because I responded after reading fully only the first paragraph:
 
I actually don't even assume that the right people at TER are reading our posts, much less that they're in a position to do anything about it. My hope is that, if you're right about TER's current ineptitude for whatever reason, they will see they need help. And what I, and almost imperceptibly some others, are saying is that help is right in front of them: return to best practices for running an online forum. Get local mods to help. I've presented a number of ideas. If I could get a more interested audience, I know there are even better ideas that we would arrive at. But it has to start with TER. They have to see the benefit in making some changes.
   
Also, too many here just want things to stay the same for reasons that totally escape me. Those same people can be found in other threads taking TER to task for bad performance, particularly where moderating/screening is involved. It seems what ticks them off is raising issues directly and, paradoxically, offering solutions. It's not that somebody noted there are issues in the first place. They've noted the same things, most of them.
 
And finally, why all the vitriol? If I see an idea posted that I don't agree with, I say so or say nothing. It doesn't even occur to me to ascribe ulterior motives to the author, make crazy assumptions about other areas of his life, call him names, and all the other stupid stuff my raising issues -- and offering solutions -- has gotten me. I only object because it's detracting and time wasting. I mean, I assume everybody here is old enough to legally have sex with anybody whose old enough, yet they act like they're in 7th grade. LOL. WTF? SMH. Etc. And then some more LOL.

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Posted By: allcomers
Re: You're right. It was a mistake.
It's a case of the fingers moving faster than the brain. It would have helped -- a lot -- if I had made that clear. I think I cursorily assumed that since I was saying I knew she had left it would be clear that I knew her. That was a bit too obtuse a reference to my knowing her. And I did it again...I had to come back and edit this reply because I responded after reading fully only the first paragraph:  
   
 I actually don't even assume that the right people at TER are reading our posts, much less that they're in a position to do anything about it. My hope is that, if you're right about TER's current ineptitude for whatever reason, they will see they need help. And what I, and almost imperceptibly some others, are saying is that help is right in front of them: return to best practices for running an online forum. Get local mods to help. I've presented a number of ideas. If I could get a more interested audience, I know there are even better ideas that we would arrive at. But it has to start with TER. They have to see the benefit in making some changes.  
     
 Also, too many here just want things to stay the same for reasons that totally escape me. Those same people can be found in other threads taking TER to task for bad performance, particularly where moderating/screening is involved. It seems what ticks them off is raising issues directly and, paradoxically, offering solutions. It's not that somebody noted there are issues in the first place. They've noted the same things, most of them.  
   
 And finally, why all the vitriol? If I see an idea posted that I don't agree with, I say so or say nothing. It doesn't even occur to me to ascribe ulterior motives to the author, make crazy assumptions about other areas of his life, call him names, and all the other stupid stuff my raising issues -- and offering solutions -- has gotten me. I only object because it's detracting and time wasting. I mean, I assume everybody here is old enough to legally have sex with anybody whose old enough, yet they act like they're in 7th grade. LOL. WTF? SMH. Etc. And then some more LOL.

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Thank you, "allcomers", I appreciate a man who can admit he's made a mistake.

While I have not taken the step of going into your entire history here on this website (I have NEVER done that with any member of this website yet I have had it done to me plenty), it appears from other's comments that some of them went through that investigative process in regards to you. I say that to preface the next part: I believe that I have either a few months more or a few months less on TER than you have. My (short) tenure so far is approximately 18 months, I do not know how long you've tenured so far. I think that SOME of your stances on these pages have legs, it's just my opinion that on this particular thread, your angle of approach is wrong on 2 very important levels: failure to report and posting the thread that merely points a finger but doesn't out the suspect. As I stated above, I see the cleverness in sending him a PM so he could clear his name, so the failure to report can be placed on hold right now. The cloak and dagger withholding of who he is, however, you don't get a pass for that because you could have waited to post this thread until he's had a whack at your PM. Also, all of the details you excluded from the post would have been good to know.

I'm not your enemy, I just think your method(s) could use some fine-tuning.

allcomers132 reads

I don't mind well-intentioned criticism. But c'mon, it was a writing mistake. You make it sound like I did something wrong, lol.

What I'm sure you're missing is that the intent of the thread wasn't to report a "find," it's what I say in the last paragraph: that I want users to care about how bad the review screening process is. Just look at the FAQ on why reviews are supposed to be rejected...they don't do 3/4 of that. It's true that, when writing, it's best under most circumstances to lead and end with the subject, but I thought it made more of a point this way. Poetic license, lol.
 
Also, I can't think of any reason I would ever out somebody for what seems like gawking. I can't think of a single reason other users need to know who I suspect of cheating (and it's a strong suspicion). If you can think of a reason, tell me and I'll take it under consideration. Otherwise, it's between him, me, and soon TER (if I'm feeling generous).  
 
Everybody wants him to be reported TER, and I probably will. But they're completely ignoring that that's a watered down version of having users as part of the screening process. Not only that, it's acting after the offence, where as having us do pre-screening would prevent much/most of the offenses from occurring in the first place. As pre-screeners, users would be reporting to TER *before* the bad, wrong, misplaced, etc., reviews got posted. I want to be able to rely on reviews.
 
According to a longtime user, TER used to do things like any other forum in the area of moderating. No reason they can't go back to best practices. Again, not that I can think of.
 
Anyway, thanks for your reply.

-- Modified on 9/26/2021 9:40:49 AM

allcomers166 reads

Unless his head is so firmly planted in his ass that he couldn't read my PM, or he's just really bad at faces: he responded to my PM saying (paraphrasing), 'maybe it wasn't her, they might have switched girls on me.'
 
But his review strongly implied he'd seen her before: "Had [her] info from a while back so I text her set up a meet . ... She is always nice." [sic]
 
So, yes, despite my strong feeling to let them swim in their own shit, I'll report him to TER. But it didn't need to get to this point.
 
And while I'm at it, I'll point out some other fake reviews, for example: 'she had bolt-on C-cups' for a girl who has beautiful, soft, natural As. Well, at least she did four weeks earlier when I handled them and again a couple weeks later when another guy saw her.
 
Before anybody asks for any info on these guys, first give me a good reason why the general public needs to know and show me an example of where you've done something similar, or seen it done to positive effect. Explain to me what the purpose of that is. Some of you seem not to want to focus on the problem, but are dying to give attention to its symptoms.

Naming someone who writes a fake review will at least keep focus on that person, and fellow mongers will know to not trust those reviews.  

 
Isnt that enough cause to name reviews and profiles (both girls/mongers)?

 
In the long run, yes, you want to cure the problem. In the short run, more info is always better than less info. And I mean, I doubt your long run goal is to just eradicate fake reviews. I mean, fake review removal (something I'm very passionate about) is good because it helps others to not get fooled or led astray.

 
Just my two cents.

allcomers147 reads

Everybody talks about outing users, but, wisely, none of them do. I've read countless threads and haven't seen even one case of it. Can you point to a single example of where this was done and to *positive effect*? The only time users' names are used is in bashing...and there's a whole lot of that.
 
Shouldn't the way of protecting users be to report it to TER and have them remove the reviews and, possibly, revoke the reviewers membership if they see a pattern of false reviews? What are any of us as individuals going to do about it via the boards?

Why do you want to protect a user if he is deceiving other users? That I do not get. I think you want to protect the truth and expose lies, no?  

 

I've called out specific users for writing fake reviews on multiple platforms. Now, I did not call out the "fake for VIP" reviews, but I called out shill reviews.

 
I can provide links to those threads. Now, did those threads help to remove reviews? Probably not, but two of those orgs I called out do not have any reviews for any of the providers anymore, so maybe it was a tiny contribution who knows. Probably not, but again who knows.

allcomers129 reads

The users I was talking about protecting are us, not him. That wasn't clear.

So wouldn't you protect us by naming him? I don't get your line of thinking.

 
I think you put too much faith in TER here. I don't see them coming in as an arbiter. It took them a couple of days and lots of reports to remove a real full address from two reviews, something that could've affected the org, girls, mongers and so forth. I am skeptical they will remove someone's reviews based on your patterns. And what happens when that person reviews again? I think it's best we know who the person is. But you do you.

here it is one of two things. The bad one of exposing their real identity and things like place of work, address....

 
The other would be telling everyone what someone has for an alias. That's a bit more an issue when people are using the TER alias as TER describes the proper use but regardless disclosing that information is a violation of TER policy.

 
Simply posting a review you think is fake or otherwise problematic and misleading to other members is not outing anyone.

 
What I suspect you will learn is that TER does not have concrete proof about what you say, what the review says or even what the provider in question might say. So they have to make a judgement call on a lot of these cases. When they really don't have more than someone says A and another says B they are not going to remove the review.  

 
Posting the link to the review allows anyone who has an interest to read it and make their own assessment. However, anyone using reviews to see the lady will be doing that already.  So you post here is largely only helpful to newbies, but if you're not providing the link the help is greatly reduced, as they largely would need to take your word and would not be learning to vet reviews themselves.

"outing" means exposing their real life info. Which is a no-no.

 
But simply saying this user is posting fake reviews, and giving an example is fine. Sometimes a user might come around and defend his reviews. And so forth. You're casting a doubt on his reviews and saying why and we're listening. I don't want to talk for others, but I don't think there are many people here who approve of fake reviews. Maybe I'm wrong.

allcomers141 reads

OK, I can see that 'outing' was too strong a word given its specific meaning on TER boards. Revealing? ID'ing? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. But I get it, whatever it is it's not outing.
 
I've reported it to TER. TER will have to make a determination. If they decide that, between the conflicting info in his review and the self-contradicting things he said the in my PM with him, that they disagree with my assessment, I don't think throwing him to the wolves is the best next step. That would be like the man found not guilty (but not necessarily innocent) is taken directly from court to the lynch-mob around the corner. LOL. Call me crazy, but this is not the most rational bunch when the mood strikes. It can look like a nuthouse that runs out of meds.
 
If TER does agree with me, then all's good, no more bad reviews from him, not even a user name to point to.
 
What am I missing?

What you're missing, imo, is that by letting each monger here make a call themselves on whether they want to trust this person, given the evidence, is considered by, at least myself, a better course than letting ter ultimately decide one way or the other.
Some mongers may decide they won't trust this person. Some may decide they will. But with TER deciding you only go whichever way they choose..

allcomers123 reads

After I received his PM response, I looked for the review...it was not to be found in the New Reviews search. Mind you, **this was before I submitted my Problem Report.** I had the PM so I could use his user name to search for his reviews. Approached that way, the review still exists in the girl's profile. My guess is that he put in his own Problem Report to have it deleted and, for whatever reason, it only disappeared from the search list, but not from the profile.  
 
Why would this be part of TER's procedure? This makes no sense to me.

Thats when the social security check gets in the account... then boom use it up and post review.. ha ha
(that is sus..)

allcomers129 reads

Haha. Dude's getting a lot of SS checks! He must be cashing them for his dead parents and siblings, too.

John_Laroche160 reads

or maybe you're right and some monger is posting fake reviews.
Without revealing a wee bit more information, it's a toss-up.

allcomers184 reads

LOL. No, she wasn't an ATF. Pretty funny though. And even if she was, she's long gone. He reviewed a ghost.

Every so often a newbie comes on here acting like the saviour of Erotic Review. They been going strong for 30 years, you have been here for .....6 months?  Your ideas to 'fix' the site are  shortsighted are show how naïve you are.
   
You'll tire yourself out soon.

allcomers153 reads

"Going strong??" According to lots of posts I've read, they're a shadow of their former selves. People like to attribute the decline to everything but that which TER has control over, it's strength ... reviews!
 
And tell me, please, why would you object to somebody who wants to improve TER, whether "noob" or old-timer? That's a curiosity in and of itself.

beginning in April 2018 due to the passing of FOSTA/SESTA legislation by Congress.  Unfortunately, the evening news is not announcing that TER is back online, and members and former users have to find out on their own or through the grapevine.  Because P4P is illegal in the US, its not something that can be discussed too bluntly in public.  The comeback looks slow and steady to me.  A few dozen of us diehards remained on the discussion boards during the time TER was blacked out in the US.  As I look to the right margin, there are twenty times as many users logged on right now than during the best days of the blackout. That's a fair increase but we still need to increase this number by tenfold to get back to the good old days pre-2018.  

 
Some of your stuff makes me smile because it reminds me of the soliloquy of Professor Harold Hill in the musical "The Music Man", who tries to convince the townspeople they have a problem because the billiard parlor got a new pool table, which is keeping young men from doing their schoolwork and chores. Like Hill, it seems like you are trying to "invent" a problem that doesn't exist, so you can ride in on your white horse and fix it.  Am I right?  Lol

iHeartMouthHugs141 reads

And they were removed within a couple of days. Guess TER pays attention to some of us. Maybe it pays to only mention it or report it once, and not in the majority of our posts? I even forgot to post links to the reviews.

allcomers138 reads

I get your point, even if it was misplaced: this was my first mention of fake reviews as a subject. And even here, it was mostly to laugh about how obvious it seemed to me.
 
I should add that I get your point, but I don't take it. If something seems worth fighting for and the solution is tried and true (local mods), shout it from the fucking mountain top every chance you get until you get the attention of the people who can make the change. Force the issue, if you can.  
 
Once I'm convinced there are just not enough users who actually care about TER's quality, I'll stop. But while the chance exists that there're users out there who rarely logon to the discussion boards who might see it and provide useful ideas for action, I'll keep bringing it up, even if on a less frequent basis (it sounds like you're looking forward to that day...I'll send you a PM announcement).
 
I like what TER was meant to be and what, according to members recalling from almost two decades ago have said, TER used to be.

"If something seems worth fighting for and the solution is tried and true (local mods), shout it from the fucking mountain top every chance you get until you get the attention of the people who can make the change."

 

Amen,brother.

Posted By: iHeartMouthHugs
Re: Funny, I just posted about fake reviews the other day.
Why did you post fake reviews? Was it done intentionally?

Posted By: dcgrind
Re: Funny, I just posted about fake reviews the other day
English is hard.
dcgrind, I see the error of my ways and I hang my head in shame. I concede to you, brother.

for owning your mistake with dignity and humor.  Others could learn from this.  Kudos.  

YOU could learn how to own YOUR mistakes from this.  You don't own your mistakes or admit you are wrong even though most of your posts are bullshit or outright lies.  The best you can do is a mealy-mouthed "I stand corrected."  Rarely do you say "I made a mistake" or "sorry, I was wrong."

 
" Others could learn from this."  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!  Look in the mirror, dumbass!

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I just wanted someone to read about how I made this provider cum harder and more times than she ever had and that she definitely wasn’t acting! And then she gave me my money back! As I walked out the door, a unicorn ran up to me and asked me if I needed a lift and then told me the winning lotto numbers while taking me to my car! It was a great day!

If you are seriously asking, I meant I complained about obviously fake reviews posted by someone else that I had read which were removed a couple of days later.

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Just a follow up — TER informed me that the reviewer I posted about on the MD board with the fake reviews had those reviews pulled and is not longer able to leave reviews. Their support team is indeed responsive. Thumbs up to them!

either name the "flagrant" reviewer, post links to these "fake" reviews, or delete this fucking useless attention seeking thread.

We get it Sherlock... you're a great fucking detective or at least you think so. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

Why don't you quit rubbing TER's nose in it and help them out to make this a better site which you claim you want. Unless of course, you're working some kind of angle to get even more free VIP days from them.

I personally don't think ANYONE should get free VIP days for pointing out supposedly fake reviews or inconsistencies in provider profiles which one finds by either accident or purposely looking for them (which I find very sad). One should do it to help maintain TER as a quality site for reliable provider information.

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I'm only responding to this post because it's a great example of stupid posts. Anybody who's read my posts and threads about improving TER knows that for every criticism I have offered solutions, refined those solutions based on reply posts, and otherwise would appear to any reasonable person as somebody who really wants TER to be good at the thing they say they are best at: Reviews!
 
This post is a perfect example of the sophomoric name calling, ascribing ulterior motives, making stupid assumptions, and just plain old irrelevance. I just posted about this type of thing in response to somebody who was trying to be helpful. Little did I know that waiting for me just below was a ripe example of exactly what I was talking about.
 
All you who fit in this category, why bother? Really. If you think about it, you're being about as petty and pitiably attention seeking as can be. Nobody is forcing you to read my input. On the other hand, if only in the category of "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then," you think of a way to help TER's review processes, let us know.

pretty reasonable guy, and it appears from the "like's" he is piling up that the membership here seems to agree with his comments, so maybe a little introspection and taking some of comments to heart are in order.  I'm starting to understand what your "crusade" is all about, but I can say from my own experience on these boards (well over 20,000 posts so far) that it gets annoying very quickly when posters continuing talk in the abstract without any examples.  If you want to get support for the reforms you want to make, linking examples of the things you are talking about will go a long way to accomplishing that.  

 
Before you accuse others of being the "blind squirrels", you should name names and put up examples.  Otherwise, you don't look all that committed to your proposition, and then YOU come off as the "attention seeker."   Just my two cents.  Keep the change.

complaining about TER's review process; therefore, I don't need to provide any input on improvements. Nothing is perfect, so either roll with it or get off of the ride.

Or better yet... start your own hooker review site, that way it can be perfectly ran as you see fit. Since you seem to think it's so simple, have a go at it. Let us know how it went. LMAO.  

As you so eloquently said: "Nobody is forcing you to read my input". So why read and respond to mine? Because you’re seeking attention, that's why.

Here's a little statistics of my own, and I didn't even need a spreadsheet to do it. Lol. As of my posting, 19/67 (~30%) of the posts are from you. And NOT one of them either provided the name of the "flagrant" reviewer(s) or links to the "fake" reviews. Even one of your posts asked "why should I name names, what good would it do". YOU not providing names and/or links is contributing to what you see as the problem and not towards the solution.  

Now go get that nut, squirrel.

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As you quoted me: "why should I name names, what good would it do?"
 
* Show me an example of where this was done and it had a positive outcome.
 
* Explain to me why it shouldn't be left up to TER to deal with him after I report the details.
 
* Show me where I told you or even implied you "need to provide any input on improvements."
 
* "30% of the posts are from you"... in a thread I started. Shockingly inappropriate!! LOL. People post comments and points, I respond. And you have a problem with that? If so, maybe that's something I should have added to the attached post. "Improvement" is only a dirty word to the hopelessly entrenched.
 
* Look at the attached post. You fit paras 2 and 4.
 
NOTE: In your "Of FFS" post, I actually mostly agree with your second paragraph. Nice suggestion, with a few tweaks, of a process improvement. Keep it up.

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Are there circumstances where you *would* resort to a workbook to do simple arithmetic? If so, have somebody point out to you the calculator on your phone for when the one in your head isn't powerful enough.

if you know you just responded to your own OP?

 
Might want to try tree view a bit more often.

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LOL. Thanks. I've caught the mistake before, and I knew it would get past me one day. Actually, tree view was the problem: The post I was replying to was at the bottom of the tree. The "Post Reply" button sat prominently just below it and beckoned me. Haha. It's the type of reply that isn't worth the trouble to fix. To the all-to-many guys who seem to think getting in a even a week dig IS the point of the TER boards, they would make every effort to fix it! We're all weak at times.

really?  why even bother?  we know half the guys on here are basically shills.  get dick sucked fall in love.  lol.  

On the other hand, it's as good a reason as any to fall in love.

Been there, done that, but I was a teenager at the time.    Lol

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Haha! I don't know about the fall in love part, but I see the girls regularly, so I've got half you equation down.
 
I only check reviews when I see a new one for a girl I reviewed, especially if I started the profile (I only have 15 reviews and they're all from this year). I'm always curious to see if it agrees with mine. That's how detecting an outlier for me is so easy. But you can do that for reviews of girls you never saw, it would just take more effort.

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