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Off the clock expectations?
stamper 7 Reviews 2165 reads
posted
1 / 24

This is maybe a strange question, but if a provider has a regular, repeat client who generally does overnights and spends, in a given year, 50K with her, what type of ongoing "maintenance" should that client expect, or be receiving?  This is a not in the same city, typically once a month visit scenario.

By maintenance, I mean texts and emails checking in and checking up, phone calls, feel good "can't wait to see you" contacts, etc.

Is it to much to expect to receive calls or texts or emails at least weekly?

In this specific scenario, she always responds to texts, eventually, but she never initiates them.  

What should the return on investment realistically be if someone is paying your rent, car payments, health care and then some?

To be clear, it is understood that this is not an exclusive arrangement, nor is it intended to be more than a professional arrangement between two people who have great chemistry together.

Opinions and thoughts welcome.

Thank you

inicky46 61 Reviews 69 reads
posted
2 / 24

For the amount being spent on her you'd think she'd figure out how to stroke you the way you want.
Sounds like you need to either tell her what you expect, or back away and see if that gets her attention.

Drumguy25 23 Reviews 83 reads
posted
3 / 24
IBDPhotography 111 reads
posted
4 / 24

Posted By: stamper

 By maintenance, I mean texts and emails checking in and checking up, phone calls, feel good "can't wait to see you" contacts, etc.  
   
 Is it to much to expect to receive calls or texts or emails at least weekly?  
   
 Thank you
"To be clear, it is understood that this is not an exclusive arrangement, nor is it intended to be more than a professional arrangement between two people..."

Maybe this is exactly how she feels and any additional "maintenance" might send the wrong message as far as she's concerned. Or maybe she's just too busy with all the other things going on in her life. Who really knows... except her.

John_Laroche 81 reads
posted
5 / 24

She ought to be sending you nude selfies once a week.  

Seriously,  if you want her to initiate,  you're obviously going to have to tell her so. For now assume she's just a traditional girl expecting the guy to always initiate. She may also not want to give the impression that she's hustling you for more.  

You're not out of line to expect a little more. Ask her in person over breakfast.

-- Modified on 12/23/2020 4:35:39 PM

Black-Panther 103 reads
posted
7 / 24

I think that is the problem it is not clear what expectations are for this relationship. It may be that a 'contractual' agreement takes away the fantasy of a GFE experience, but it is the crux of the issue, it isn't clear. She may also not want to initiate contact because she doesn't know if you're married or have a girlfriend. An unwanted text or call at the wrong time could be problematic if you were married. I think it would be reasonable to agree that a provider would assume you were married.

Posted By: stamper

 To be clear, it is understood that this is not an exclusive arrangement, nor is it intended to be more than a professional arrangement between two people who have great chemistry together.  
   
 Opinions and thoughts welcome.  
   
 Thank you

Onerealhotmomma See my TER Reviews 80 reads
posted
8 / 24

I may have some that feel the same as you for all I know.  There are a few that I am in regular contact with because they are with me too and have expressed that they enjoy the patter.....i enjoy the contacts with them also.  The balance is infrequent and irregular at best because even though we interact well on a person to person  basis when together I hear little from them in between though i  would welcome the interaction.  I am afraid that I will be taking liberties with their personal, business and family lives that is an unwanted intrusion unless invited and they may not wish to be seen as an intruder in my life, who knows.  But wistfully that is just me, i am sapiosexual, I love to talk unless my mouth is full.......

Suzee

GaGambler 66 reads
posted
9 / 24

A lot of guys spend money on hookers for the express reason that they are "left alone" between sessions. She may very well think that you don't want to be contacted unless you reach out to her first.

 
Here is a novel idea. Why don't you gently suggest to her that you would love to hear from her without you being the one to initiate contact, she might love the idea. You don't have to frame in in a "why don't you do this?" already kind of tone, just put it out there that you'd love to hear from her more often. I have Sugar Babies that I don't spend anywhere near as much on who reach out to me at least every couple of days, "just to say hey" It takes all of a few seconds out of her day unless you are the type who DEMANDS more and more from her, but I will most certainly give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't that type of client.

Valida 17 Reviews 75 reads
posted
10 / 24

This is just about what I was typing when GaG published first.  Not bugging you, not putting your secret at risk, is good polite hooker behavior.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 72 reads
posted
11 / 24

Is whether you are married or single.  A lot of hookers and SB's behave quite differently with a married customer than  they do with a single one.  If you're married, but they don't know your schedule and what days and times it is "safe"  to text or call  you, they will err on the side of caution.  At 50K a year from just one customer, you are a "catch" for anyone in the P4P trade, so she doesn't want to fuck it up.  I have many married friends that have the same issue as you, the provider are slow to initiate contact for fear of blowing your cover.  I'm single, so with providers I'm close to, they have no fears about contacting me at anytime, and most do it freely.  If you're single and she is standoff-ish like you have described, then as others suggest, you need to tell her what your expectations are for the kind of money you are paying.  Maybe you could tell us if you are single or married.  That would shed some light on tailoring responses here that may better answer your question, but without knowing, this is the best I can offer.

herbtcat 6 Reviews 77 reads
posted
12 / 24

... that you are paying her "rent, car payments, health care and then some?"  You really have no idea what she does with the professional fees you pay to her are used for. Maybe she's buying stock. Maybe she's paying tuition for her kid or niece/nephew. Maybe she's blowing it all up her nose with meth? It's really none of your business and she's not obligated to tell you or offer some additional "socializing" or flirting services beyond your sessions, unless you negotiated for and are specifically paying for that extra level of service.  

 
You might as well ask why your plumber or attorney don't send you personal dick pics. So yes, it is too much to expect to receive calls or texts or email at least weekly.  If you feel you need or want that, offer her some cash to do so and I'm sure, if she accepts, she will be charming, sexy and as delightfully whorish as you want.  

 
But, with all due to respect to the sincerity of your question, get your head out of your ass. She is a service provider, not a mistress or a girlfriend - unless you mutually discuss and agree that she is. You can be cordial with her, and she should be the same when you talk about business. But you don't own any of her time or attention outside of booked sessions.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 69 reads
posted
13 / 24

I'd have a whole harem of Sugar Babes.  

TheVoiceOfReason 86 reads
posted
14 / 24

I am sure that $50K is probably much closer to $5K.  I am a little surprised how nice everyone especially GaGa is being to him on this thread.

TheVoiceOfReason 85 reads
posted
15 / 24

This kinda reminds me of that thread between Deb and that needy guy that she had to cut off (i.e., the guy that she felt was stalkerish who was mad that she gave out his personal information).  I suspect that if this onion were peeled back the lady that he is spending his coin on would the same way about him that Deb and her assistant felt about that guy.  

Do you want some cheese with this wine?  I am a little perplexed with how civil everyone has been despite what is clearly a dumb post.  I would expect Courtney Opera (or whatever her new name is) to remind you that you are basically just an ATM for this lady and GaGa to tell you that you are a doormat and maybe a few others to chime in and tell you to grow some balls and communicate.  Must be the holiday season.

My advice to you is to see other ladies, write some more reviews and go a couple months without any contact with this lady and see what happens.  

CAsurfer83 70 reads
posted
16 / 24

Since this isn't exactly a sugar arrangment-relationship if you are really this much invested why not mention something along those lines if you are seeking more than a date to date relationship?

If not all you can do & what I recommend is casually communcate that during your next date with her. While she is under no obligation to do so, if it is that much of an issue & her actions show she isn't interested in investing the extra moment or two periodically then all you can do is move on!

Again its up for you to decide. You deserve to be treated-respected how you feel you deserve as long as its being returned to her but if she honestly communicates or shows differently that maybe it's pushing some boundary for her... You got to figure out if you are ok with that or find someone else that may extend you that courtesy without thinking twice about it.

If your "lady friend " makes time for you without hassle, is considerate of the time you both schedule together & there is chemistry.. I personally wouldn't make a huge push over this unless it is complete deal breaker for you.

But again if you are showing her proper respect of her boundaries & she's not communcating different then by all means be upfront if that is what you would appreciate.

eastside70 47 Reviews 71 reads
posted
17 / 24

Go fuck yourself VOR, a fucking pussy who hides in the shadows behind an alias. Step out into the light as your true self, so we can see what kind of piece of shit condones a BSC dangerous hooker giving out her clients real info.  Might want to remove your head out of Deb's ass to get the shit out of it. If you don't know what the fuck your talking about, shut the fuck up.

stamper 7 Reviews 75 reads
posted
18 / 24

Thank you for all the (well most of the) well though out responses.  This provider and I have known each other for 8 years, she knows and has met my wife, I know her civilian info and have met her family.  So it is more than a client-provider relationship. The high $$$ portion is only about 18 months old, before that is was a much more "typical" ongoing arrangement.  She is also my age, which means she knows all about holding the rabbit ears a certain way to get your black and white TV to have less snow :)

And maybe the crux of the issue is that I need to communicate my expectations better in regards to what I want.  This has been a weird year for everyone, and emotionally a lot of us are in turmoil.

 I am probably looking at this from a sales standpoint. If I had a customer that represented a large portion of my sales, I would (and i do) communicate frequently.  

However, this business is different in many ways, for a lot of reasons listed in the replies, especially the privacy related ones, from "business", but in many ways it is also the same. Advertising, marketing, performance, follow up.  

Keep in mind, there is a lot of difference between ongoing repeat, and "once a year in Vegas" or "one and done".  Have been doing those for 25 years, and yes, those are "have fun, hopefully both of you, but don't call me, I'll call you". That's a tough business model, emotionally and physically.

As for what i am covering (and I'm not complaining about that, I'm a big boy, been around for a long time, and understand the world, mostly), she is a low volume high end provider. Covid took away a lot of her business, which is just starting to come back. She even had to take a civilian job for about 6 months.  I represent, at least this year, probably 50% of her income.  So yes, rent on play space, mortgage on house, medical coverage, car payments.

TheVoiceOfReason 72 reads
posted
19 / 24

I am guessing that you are THAT GUY or that guy that previously made claims against Debra, which we adjudicated.  To the best of my recollection and belief a decision was made and I issued an ORDER.  If you wish to appeal that decision, you can do so.  You had 90 days from the issuance of the order so I believe that you may still have time.  Ohh great, it looks like I might have a new stalker.  

-- Modified on 12/24/2020 10:06:49 AM

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 70 reads
posted
20 / 24

I can't read this without thinking, despite your suggestions to the contrary, that the lines have been blurred, maybe for quite a while.  This hasn't been a strictly client/provider relationship in years.  The advice you are seeking is probably better coming from a marriage counselor or relationship expert -- and not from pay as you go sex hounds such as ourselves.

GaGambler 88 reads
posted
21 / 24

And based strictly on your OP I think it was unwarranted as you didn't come across as someone "whining" about the lack of "ego stroking" and expressions of appreciation that you seem to think you are entitled to in between paid dates.  

 
That was then, this is now and based on your last post where you claim to be a "big boy" who understands the world, I think you are trying to fool yourself more than you are the rest of us. It seems to be important to you for us to know that you are responsible for 50% of her income, which of course means that she, in your mind at least, owes you more than you think she has been giving you.  So YES, despite your claims to the contrary you ARE complaining, but you are complaining to the wrong people. Why don't you just grow a pair and tell HER that you need a little more coddling in return for the money you are giving her?

 
Lastly, if you don't feel "appreciated" by this woman, you can always move on, and please speak for yourself where it comes to "emotional turmoil" I have had to make a few adjustments in both my business and personal life due to COVID and the hysteria that has accompanied it, but I would hardly say I am in "emotional turmoil" and since you, by your own admission can afford to give some woman an extra $50,000 a year, while you taking care of your own family (hopefully) it doesn't sound like your life is too tough at all. So man up, grow a pair and quit fucking whining that this hooker doesn't appreciate you enough for fuck's sake.

 
(VOR, does this post meet the standards you have to come to expect from me??? lol)

cks175 51 Reviews 92 reads
posted
22 / 24

It could very well be that, and in fact is most likely, that your mistress believes she is observing the boundaries that you want.  You’re very important to her and the last thing she would want to do is cross those boundaries and mess up a good thing.

The best thing to do is have a conversation with her about what you would prefer the boundaries be.  Keep in mind that it looks like you could be headed down the road of leaving your wife for her. With that in mind, tread carefully!

stamper 7 Reviews 73 reads
posted
23 / 24

You Sir, are probably correct!

brstlvr 71 reads
posted
24 / 24

I don’t even talk with my real-life friends and family that often 😆. It would require a major shift in my mentality to start even texting my best friend of 30 years in a regular basis.  

Like any relationship, if you’re missing something you need, you have to communicate with the other person.

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