But every time I read one of this guys posts I think the name fits well.
So, the “market,” across the country, has determined that a “session” with a “PS” is worth $1K, MINIMUM. 💰💰💰
That’s a given if you want to “play” in that league. 😩
But, what of the PHENOMENON of non “PS” attempting to charge SIMILAR rates? 😳
What’s their JUSTIFICATION for such exorbitant rates?
At least with an ACTUAL “PS,” one can argue the merits of “fantasy fulfillment,” on the level of a “civvie” encountering a mainstream movie star (but with “benefits” 😉).
But what ARGUMENT could a non “PS” make to justify disproportionate rates? 🤔
That their “skills” warrant such rates?
That their “rep” warrants it?
Either way, it’s a STRETCH.
What say you, fellow “T.E.R.” members?
Thanks in advance for participating! 🙂
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and depending on circumstances, that was worth some extra $.
Some would argue that things like COF and maybe even golden showers qualify for the PS designation.
It didn't really mean that they appeared in any porn films of any merit.
As for whether any of this is worth a grand, that's for each one of us to decide.
I wonder how “PS” could ever be “code” for anal? (“Posterior Section?” 😳)
Well, we can decide if we want to PAY typical “PS” rates, but the “market” has already established $1K as the “FLOOR,” like it or not. 🙁
Once upon a time, not all that long ago the "generally accepted" definitions of GFE and PSE were
GFE=DFK + BBBJ
PSE=DFK + BBBJ + Greek.
That was then, this is now. As CDL will tell you in So Cal PSE is now code for BBFS in many/most cases and GFE is still being argued to death with one group claiming it's a "attitude" with the other maintaining it has to do with menu items and still others like myself who believe that it's actually a combination of the two. IOW DFK and BBBJ delivered with "passion" or at least the illusion of passion.
As for porn stars, for "some guys" the reason they are willing to pay so much is for the bragging rights moreso than the sex itself, I guess it's much the same as fucking anyone famous. How much would you pay to fuck Beyoncé? She could most likely charge $100,000 hour and have rich guys lining up around the block just for the chance to fuck her. Now how much would you pay to fuck an unknown woman who happened to look like Beyoncé? (Keep in mind she's pushing 40) I doubt that too many people would pay more than a few hundred bucks at most.
Porn star rates are what they are, IMO it's because "there's a sucker born every minute" but just like I don't buy organic tomatoes at $4.99 a pound when the regular tomatoes look better and sell at a third of the price, I don't pay porn star prices either. I don't begrudge these women for monetizing their "fame" any more than I begrudge the grocery store for charging an arm and a leg for organic products although I reserve the right to laugh at the people who think they are buying a superior "product" just because it costs several times what it's really worth.
Are happy to know you won’t be soiling the product LoL
"Can" and "will" are two VERY different words.
There is also a huge difference in feeling like a "big shot" when spending money foolishly (which I have been VERY guilty of) and feeling like a sucker. Paying a rather average looking woman with huge bolt ons $2,000 hr just because she's fucked a few guys on camera just isn't my thing. If it's yours, then more power to you, I hope you at least feel like you are getting your money's worth. After all, that's all that really counts, but that doesn't mean that I won't at least be snickering at you a little under my breath for being foolish. But then again people probably have thought I was insane for betting tens of thousands on a single hand of cards. I guess foolishness is in the eyes of the beholder.
“PSE” confounded me the MOST. 😳
WTF is a “PSE?”
There is NO set list of activities/actions that anyone hoping to call themselves a legit “PS” must adhere to.
Some of the most well regarded “PSs” DONT do anal.
Others DONT swallow.
So, again, just WTF is a “PSE?” 🤔
“GFE” is that much easier.
“DFK/BBBJ” as a bare minimum, anything else could be considered “extra.”
As for “PS” rates, it’s not about people being “suckers.”
It’s more like the “invisible hand” of the market determining that price, same as it does for OTHER services.
I mean, is an “ER” visit REALLY worth THOUSANDS of dollars, esp. if it involves a non-life threatening issue?
No, but what makes it COST so?
The “market,” and if you intend to visit an emergency room, insurance aside, be prepared to pay what THEY say it”s worth.
I’ll be damned if they, like a “PS,” would be able to genuinely JUSTIFY their charges. 🙁
This debate has been going on forever and is pointless. And, for example, it's the same with GFE. What the hell does it really mean? Some have even said it's code for BBFS because your girlfriend will bareback you.
And as for what the correct amount is, same thing. A girl will charge whatever she wants and justify it however she wants. Then it's up to you to decide if she's worth it. Or you can play Hack Duncey's game and negotiate like crazy. Good luck with that.
Hate to DISAGREE, but the designation “PS” makes a BIG difference.
All a “pro” needs to do is appear in ONE “movie,” and all of a sudden, she’s considered a “PS...” and charging accordingly. 🙁
Do you even get that you did that? Try reading my post again.
Don’t know WHAT kind of “pretzel logic” you’re using to assume that I’m making YOUR point.
More like you”re making MINE. 😉
“GFE” vs. “NON-GFE.”
MILLIONS will agree with me that terms MATTER, and that there IS a difference in WHICH one a “pro” uses to identify herself and her “services.” 🤔
I said the PS had no meaning. You argued back the all a "pro" had to do was appear in ONE movie and she's considered a PS. Meaning the designation has NO MEANING AT ALL. Because any girl can raise her prices for any reason she wants.
Get it now, dodo?
That you’re a DICK?!
Loud and CLEAR! 😉😆
speak with their feet and move on to the next service provider. In due time market forces will adjust rates to where they belong, consistent with the most basic of market principles; supply VS demand.
You won't have to pay $1K for true "PS" in Las Vegas. Do a TER search on Kitty Rains. You will be glad you did.
between "ps" and "PS" in the OP. And then to combine "ps" with "non-" makes it even more like reading a letter from a second-grader. If "non-" cancels out the small "ps", then does that make it a large "PS"? In that case, there is no difference between the two. If the "NON" is in caps but the "ps" is small, like we see here, what does that mean . . . . . REALLY-REALLY not small? Or is this just a bad case of "CDS" (Capital Derangement Syndrome)? Is there a cure for that, or are we stuck with this in perpetuity?
CDL, don't even try to figure lolo out. He randomly capitalizes some words, uses quotation marks for words that don't require any, and he answers his own questions in the same post. He tries to play off as if he has some secret information, but he really doesn't. He's the type of person to write those "Ultimate Revenge" posts on Reddit, but it's clearly obvious that it's all BS.
Thanks for NOTHING..., DICK! 😡
Oh, and go FUCK yourself with “A.l.!”
Man, what a JACKASS! 🙄
how many meltdowns this is for "stupid" on this thread?
Dude, and I use this term loosely, you need to find out who's slipping you estrogen. You're acting like a teenage girl. Are your nipples swollen, too?
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He's absolutely, compulsively, obsessively needing to have the last word every time.
How pathetic.
Poor, lil' dodo.
Shit, you guys are VICIOUS!!! 😫
Well, thank God at least you didn’t call me a “POOPY HEAD!” 😳
Why, I wouldn”t have been able to get OUT of bed this morning if you’d called me THAT! 😢
Have you guys no MERCY? 😱
(Pendejos! 😡)
Of course we have mercy, believe it or not we've been rather gentle with you. We don't want you flaming out before we're done having our fun. True board pinatas require grooming as well as a natural talent for being lame of course. You have the potential to be one of the "all time" pinatas of TER, if you can survive the test of time that is.
Wow!
With THAT vicious “comeback,” I’m DESTROYED! 😫
Gonna have to take YEARS of THERAPY to recover from THAT zinger!
OUCH! 😱
(What a JACKASS! 🙄)
But every time I read one of this guys posts I think the name fits well.
Thanks for sharing yet another CONSTRUCTIVE post. 🙄
You could always just “JERK off” into a sock instead, and SPARE us. 🤔
It's not his fault that you picked such a fitting handle. ROFLMFAO
Just accept it, some people are just born to be pinatas, don't fight it embrace it. lol
From your reply to Perfect Storm, can we assume you looked up the meaning of lolo?
I was busy responding to VIRGIN nitwits like YOU! 🤬
I’m curious, son - ever KISS a GIRL? (And, NO, your MOMMA don’t count! 😳😆)
When they go through life, some days they are the pigeon, and some days they are the statue. You, my friend, were BORN to be the statue all the time. Why do you think you're attracting all of these "pigeons?"
PRETENTIOUS wannabe corner PHILOSOPHER! 🧐
Tell me, when will you accept you are just a PERFECT example of complete MEDIOCRITY? 🤔
Sorry, too CLOSE to the bone? 😢
Before you do anything RASH, please call this number - 1-800-273-8255.
While I CAN’T, hopefully they can tell you what MEANING your PATHETIC life has. 😔🤣
big comeback? You are so clueless and full of yourself, you don't even realize how badly you're embarrassing yourself. After this, I hope you're not planning to use your stupid-lancer handle to get appointments with grown women. I think you're going to have to do some begging.
To be fair, the statue analogy was pretty rock solid. I don't think Michelangelo could chisel his way out of that one.
You honestly think I give a FUCK what a pathetic man-child like you THINKS? 🙄
Get over yourself, ASSHOLE! 🖕🏼
I think it might have just been an after thought and not clearly thought out -- as well as confusion about case of the letters.
the ONLY thing he was confused about. Lol
Your assertion that Porn Star rates start at 1k has little merit.
As far as the justification for what a provider charges, well, it's all in whatever her market will bear.
A streetwalker may charge 80, an AMP provider 180, one agency charges 260 while another 400. One independent asks 300 another 600 another 1000. A newbie provider starts out at 200 and as she gains knowledge of her market may increase x2, x4 or more.
Some mongers like the thrill of negotiating down to get the highest level of service for the lowest price. Others like the fantasy of affording the luxury of a +1K provider. Two guys sit at a blackjack table. One is betting $5 per hand, the other $1,000. Who's having a better time?
Justification? Because they think they’re worth it.
The porn star industry charges that much because they can and also feel worth it. You can shake your head in disbelief all you want and argue that it’s not justified but in the end, they charge what they want, not what you might consider justified. If they’re not getting it from you, they likely are from others with deeper pockets.
If they’re not getting it, they won’t last long.
condescension is still happening amongst all of you.
I'm guilty of thinking the shit show might have become more civilized.
Nah! Still the same.
And here we go.
So sorry to obviously offend your delicate sensibilities, sir.
Perhaps you would rather we sound off on a more POSITIVE note, say “hey guys, everything is just PEACHY keen here in “mongerland,” so...”
(*crickets*)
Yeah, that’s gonna be a HARD no from me, dog. 🙄
Like the late, great “Hank Williams” used to sing, “Why don’t you move it on over...” 😊
Sometimes you get what you pay for... but a PS booking for me must have verifiable referenced and published PS level. I guess if you are on PH with 1M likes and followers, video distributed, then you qualify as a PS experience in the escort world - otherwise it's a bogus label to me.
I see people using it in conjunction with "Experience" PSE...and thats typically anal plus extreme water sports and other theatrical antics... I have also seem providers advertise as POV and PSE together... maybe thats the allure...To each their own I guess...
But one of my regulars used to do porn. I looked her up on pornhub before booking her, just to make sure. We have very vanilla sex (although she is extremely orgasmic). So I can confirm that the sex wouldn't be "off the charts" enough to justify exorbitant prices. But our vanilla sex has become very hot because, well, the GFE factor. We've become so close that I even know her real name, and professional relationships like that are where it's at.
I don't pay more than $69.
I don't pay more than $69.
Think of that one all by YOURSELF, or did your OLDER brother help you with that? 😳🙄
I tell ya, the “energy” generated by all the “WIT” on this site is BARELY enough to light a 40W bulb. 🙄
To me the only way to have providers stop charging 1k is for the clients to stop booking them period. It may sound harsh, but think about it as clients we dictate the market.
Because 1K + has generally lower volume
When I first started in P4P, before I discovered TER, I was seeing indies almost exclusively. I was seeing indies all the way up to $1K an hour. However, after my first 20 girls or so, I realized that there was rarely ever a difference between a girl at $1k an hour and $500/hr, and I can honestly say that I always got better service booking two hours at $500 than one hour at $1000.
For that reason, $500/hr is not my limit, but I have no problem spending $1000 for two hours. If fact, I am always looking for girls who may discount the hourly rate a little for a two hour booking, as in $500/hr and $800 or $900 for two hours.
Say it takes a provider an hour to get ready for an hour appointment and another hour to clean up for the next event that is three hours( put any time there )
Hour two takes no more time on either end
That being said 500 / 800 would still be a better return on the second hour
OK providers like on!
There are many ladies that dabbled in porn that have reasonable rates. Not every porn star is 1K an hour. There are also several retired MILF porn stars that have rates that are below the average rates. Just because someone labels themselves as a "porn star" is meaningless. Anyone guy or girl could make a video and post it to one of the many sites and consider themselves to be a porn star.