Smart providers screen clients. I would hope we agree that's for everyones’ benefit.
If a potential client doesn’t have an account on a screening service, many ladies are willing to provide alternative screening. That means s/he’ll need to pony-up, at least, a real name. After that, or maybe a couple more times, good references can kick-in. One could easily make the argument that independent providers are less vulnerable (of less interest?) to a data hack(er)...LE?... than big companies with a vast repository of names. (Probably a discussion for another thread) . I’m not suggesting *anything* about screening services---only that if I don’t trust a provider enough to safely manage simple info like my real name, I don’t trust her enough to see her in the first place. And, if I trust her enough to see her, I don’t care if she knows my real nameI've always wondered where providers verify potential clients' info. Do they check if they're LE or someone with a criminal record or is under-aged or type of occupation? What agency do they use?
At what can be found on the web using just Google. A provider surprised me one night by saying something to me that I never thought would be on the web, but she was pretty thorough. Some providers use paid services to check backgrounds rather than "an agency". A careful provider will check criminal records, employment, and other things.
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Almost exclusively all high end girls. Are those girls not being "careful"?
I can see why over a hundred high-end providers would see a client with a fake name. Let me guess the free site you find them ... DUH
But it is always a goal. LOL
Tell me, do all the hookers in Mayberry demand a real name or do you just provide it upfront without them asking to be a "good client?"
That depends Jack. The ones that you mentored don't. I don't want to say I doubt your claim, but I will say that it sounds like you're a board troll.
Are the others in this thread that disagree with you trolls too?
Or are we all wrong and you're right?
Maybe you will realize one day that there is many ways to protect yourself and many different ways to play this game.
You love to pay more than the MSRP, I pay less. I like to give minimal info, you like to send them your high school transcript. LOL
No worries, as girls will still see you. 
I now book at least 90% of my session via P 411 and it's maybe one in a hundred women there that ask me for anything over and above what they can find out on P411. It doesn't bother me if the whole P4P world knows me by my real name, but it almost never comes up.
FWIW, if asked nicely, I will supply virtually any information short of my SSAN. At like a bitch and DEMAND anything and you will be met with radio silence. This is just my own POV, others by necessity have different thresholds.
I also use my 411 membership and I've been asked for my ID a couple of times but it's not a big deal. For Jack to say,he won't give any info and see high-end girls is laughable.
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First, let me assume you are seeing high end girls, If only a couple have asked for ID, that means the rest of these "high end" girls saw you without anything more than your P411 info. All someone like Jack would need to do is the same as us, but when asked for his ID, simply pass on that girl and see all the rest. Problem solved.
Unless of course you are saying the girls that you see are NOT high end. In that case I suppose my argument goes out the window. So I suppose my question to you is "do you see high end girls, or are you down there in the gutter with your buddy Jack?" lmao
I either wrote it wrong or you misread it because that's NOT what I was trying to say. I can't see where you confused Jack's refusal to give any info with me as if I also refused, which does not make sense. I've gone back and made some edits to make it clearer
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Jack doesn't refuse to give up "any" info, he refuses to give up PERSONAL info that could come back to haunt him.
Come on bro. Think before you send your posts.
You are making this too easy to rip you. LOL
I wonder if Jack understands semantics see Jack. See Jill. See Jack and Jill go up the hill. See Jill run back down because Jack wouldn't give his real name ... And he was being a douche bag b
Come on bro. Think before you send your posts.
You are making this too easy to rip you. LOL
Come on bro. Think before you send your posts.
You are making this too easy to rip you. LOL
Burner phone, paid cash
Pick a company and look up it's number.
Pick a common name, or even someone known to work at said company
Home address is seldom requested and I suspect never given
anonymous email account (getting harder and harder to get these days)
Satisfies just about anyone's screen requirements but nothing (easily) leads back to Jack.
Then again, I had a hobbyist tell me he's never gone through any screening and I tend to believe his claim so the above might not be Jack's story at all.
Your posts are outlandish most of the time. Aside from being chronically incorrect with information, they are designed to curry favor with the prostitutes.
Maybe try seeing some high-end prostitutes and then you'll have something to compare this to.
The only thing that is quite laughable here is watching you chase around prostitute handles on the boards. It's funny.
"the prostitutes"
I'm gonna put 10 bucks in a jar every time you say prostitute. And then I'm gonna use it see one!
I'm over a third of a way there already with this thread alone. So help a sister out here and don't start switching' over to whoor....
Then we can actually have a convo! LOL
Love ya plants!
And kick me a buck out of each 5 as a finders fee! 
If I can hear it pronounced "Hoo-er".
Please don't make me take people off of ignore to figure this one out.... I e been saying provider, Jack Off has been sayin hooker, so that leaves?
I'm gonna put 10 bucks in a jar every time you say prostitute. And then I'm gonna use it see one!
I'm over a third of a way there already with this thread alone. So help a sister out here and don't start switching' over to whoor....
I was going to set the lines on the upcoming Fancy vs BBFS cage match, but the team I sent out to round up BBFS has been having difficulties locating him. Go figure. Maybe he is smarter than he looks? but AAR it looks like that fight is on hold.
now how am I gonna pay jack kick-backs....er...his finders fee, for the plan to self-fund my VIP?
Right now the odds are slightly in Jacks favor, I set the early line at Asshole Jack -140 with a comeback on DumbDrew at +120,
Bet early and bet often. The gaming windows are open.
but so far most of the action has been coming in on the asshole, I may have to reset the line soon.
Ill kick in $10 to get you started.
As long as 25% goes to my "Fuck Alexandra Hill Fund", you can keep everything else. LOL
I'm a lover not a fighter.
We have a simply response for guys that give us fake info..we lump them in the same category as cops or scammers..and they are never allowed to use our agency...we don't need or want their business..ever...
But in all my years of P4P never once have I been asked for ID. Am I at risk?
According to them, not only will you never get laid again, but if you ever do, you will be robbed, arrested or killed, or maybe all three.
Lady, or agency that I've tried booking with won't accept the screening service alone. I've asked if joining one would help with the screening process. They say it doesn't hurt, but it won't help either.
Nobody with any sense gives out personal info to see an escort.
They all ask for personal info, and when I don't give it to them - silence!
God you're still capable of amazing us with your uh moronic tendencies.
I'm speaking from personal experience, I've tried to book at least three ladies with out providing personal information.
1.) Tobi Telford
2.) Nicoletta
3.) I can't rember her name, 36-40ish Latina, or Portuguese usually wearing a black gown/dress in her ad. Damn, I wish I could remember her name... Edited now I remeber Paloma Valenti, if that's the correct spelling.
They all wanted personal information, how do you book minus giving PI?
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First, MOST gals who demand it on their website when approached via p411 just go straight to setting up an appt. SOME but certainly not the majority stick to their guns and I move on. Maybe 2-3 in years of doing this. Simple. Can I be of more help?
Mostly because the ladies still request some kind of provider reference, in addition to the screening service.
Therefore I've never approached an appointment request via P411, maybe it would work maybe it won't?
I know which I'd bet my money on.
since it seems to work great for me and not for you, I guess we both know then where the issue is. I NEVER get new gals ask for references. They can cherry pick them off my P411 and check in with them if they like. Or not. I tend to believe the latter happens more often but the former does on occasion. Right now, I'm setting up an extended date with a gal this summer and she has all my P411 issue but she's gonna check in with a mutual provider pal and gave me a heads up on that. Not typical but appreciated. She's one of the top gals in her country and she's not yet asked me my name, address, etc. Its not WHAT you know, its WHO you know.
but I'm not mad.
a lot can happen between now and summer.
I'd expect little else of you other than total lack of comprehension. Carry on sir.
to do with the conversation.
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When I want to see a prostitute they get nothing from me that is traceable.
I like this to be discrete.
Others have no problems handing out all their identifying information. I'm sure you've read those stories here about the problems that creates.
Do you think they give up there favorite color to the hookers for screening too? LOL
Then I reply Pussy lip pink and milk chocolate brown nipples.
But I will eat other candy and colors
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Almost everything has a price. And perhaps the anonymity that Jack requires is one of them, and I respect the fact that is the way he prefers to do business, it is right.
My question would be, when you say you negotiate the price with high-end prostitutes, does that mean you're willing to pay more? Then negotiating that I've been involved in, when someone puts a premium on top of a premium product, they usually pay more, not less. If you're paying less my friend, I also respect that too.
And no it doesn't make you a bad person😒
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How do you know they didn't?
What is your definition of "high end"
More than $40 for 15 minutes?
Instead of just posting a new and looking foolish? Just wondering.
What makes you think that many of these prostitutes would spend any money on that?
I am pretty sure that most simply use Google and a few of the sites that have more misinformation than pertinent data.
So long as whatever information some guy gave them didn't show up, most prostitutes will go forward.
Unless you are working on behalf of some prostitutes and have a different agenda? You might be that guy who grabs unsuspecting guys personal information and are an identity thief?
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with much regard as people. I might have missed a post or two where you do. It's not just the use of the word hooker, prostitute
or Ho either. Great idea, in your case, to use an alias.
Have a friend who once told me ... "you can call me nigger and I'll give you a big old hug, but if you call me James the wrong way,
we going down". Guess you didn't meet him. LOL
Just using this particular post to deliver a message I've wanted to share for a while. Sorry, been busy doing screenings for prostitutes
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Thanks for sharing your misinformation.
I hope the prostitutes you're screening for are aware of your ignorance.
or Ho either. Great idea, in your case, to use an alias.
Have a friend who once told me ... "you can call me nigger and I'll give you a big old hug, but if you call me James the wrong way,
we going down". Guess you didn't meet him. LOL
Just using this particular post to deliver a message I've wanted to share for a while. Sorry, been busy doing screenings for prostitutes
mistook no reviews for no yellow envelope. I know better.
So, do I have the "no review" part correct?
That's a problematic claim unless your name really is bbfs4ever (which is not a very advisable handle, i.e., alias)
The issue is no doubt the lack or reviews showing so you may well have signed up with multiple accounts but only use one for review purposes. It's not like it' that expensive to pay for VIP.
But yes, you clearly are not using an alias for your account alias.
Maybe you can give an example rather than some racist antidote that you thought you could work into a reply and make it ok yeah we get it ... Your friend said it. You didn't. That still doesn't make it appropriate. Now what was your point again.
My very good friend James was about 6 years older than me when we met in college. Great friend who physically survived Vietnam ... they were his words, and if you must know, I did paraphrase them a bit ... He said "cut your throat" not "we're going down".
These are anecdotes, fuck head, not "antidotes" if you must know,
that I have based my life and character around. This one, since you don't get it, involves how to speak with people properly and what they hear, not just what you say. Does that explain my post, darling?
You're more than welcome to call me out on the board, but expect
a gentle reminder like this on how to speak with others. I'd probably make more than the high priced hookers that are part of this chain.
And guess what, going back to the OP ... NO SCREENING! Jack, only that part of this message is for you ... the screening part, that is
context is everything, but context is also is a concept that's a little above the grade level of most ter readers, unfortunately.
I'm hearing "fuck head" because spellcheck auto filled a word. That's appropriate. Especially in a message about how to talk to people. You got upset because I told you that using racial slurs are unacceptable regardless of whatever point you were trying to make. It was wrong for you to do that, but you want to shoot the messenger. You could have made your point about how to speak to people in a thousand ways without using offensive terms. However, you obviously resent being told that.
I've obviously struck a nerve with you and it shows by your resorting to how much you make as a statement of your self worth. I'd say, "we don't care" but some providers might so good luck with that.
These are anecdotes, fuck head, not "antidotes" if you must know,
that I have based my life and character around. This one, since you don't get it, involves how to speak with people properly and what they hear, not just what you say. Does that explain my post, darling?
You're more than welcome to call me out on the board, but expect
a gentle reminder like this on how to speak with others. I'd probably make more than the high priced hookers that are part of this chain.
And guess what, going back to the OP ... NO SCREENING! Jack, only that part of this message is for you ... the screening part, that is. 😆
nor am I here to have a stranger challenge my authenticity as a human. Apology accepted.
This is a board of opinion and it seems that you still, IYHO, don't understand the point that I made was voiced by a BLACK MAN.
I'm merely quoting. I believe in politeness in how I speak with others in a public forum. Previously, I chose a pm to voice my sentiments to what I felt was personal. So yea, the pot did call the kettle black. Sorry about that.
I'm not going to measure the responses to my original post because that becomes he said, she said and I don't do that, but the only other response to this post was by BigPJ and he understood I was talking context, not content.
If no one else chimes in, I'm fine with that, don't want to hijack the post. It was between you and I and I consider it over.
As for others/providers, please feel to blast me or send a PM to chat or voice an opinion, or start a new thread? Otherwise, I'm done.
Yeah right. You should see how I talk to my friends, I do a lot worse than dropping an "n" every once in a while
I don't know if you have ever been the only non black guy running with a black crowd, and by that I don't mean having one "black friend" If you have ever been that guy, you'll know what I am talking about. Friends talk trash to each other, as you friend James said, it's not the word, its the intent. I hate PC speak, I don't talk that way in public around people I don't know as it tends to get taken the wrong way, but in private or surrounded by friends, most people would be shocked at the way I talk.
I am far from PC, and am not calling out PC stuff. Just calling out the irony. 
These are anecdotes, fuck head, not "antidotes" if you must know,
that I have based my life and character around. This one, since you don't get it, involves how to speak with people properly and what they hear, not just what you say. Does that explain my post, darling?
You're more than welcome to call me out on the board, but expect
a gentle reminder like this on how to speak with others. I'd probably make more than the high priced hookers that are part of this chain.
And guess what, going back to the OP ... NO SCREENING! Jack, only that part of this message is for you ... the screening part, that is. 😆
Honestly it depends on the financial situation of the provider. I know girls who get really desperate, and when their clients refuse to give them information, will still risk seeing them.
Me? I would rather be late on rent than risk running into LE or a bad client. When someone refuses to give me a reference or any information, that is a red flag that they are just trouble.
There are millions of ways to screen a client and you don't screen him with just the intention of finding out if he's LE, you screen him to make sure he's not violent and to make sure he says who he says he is. You always want to make sure he's no rapist or has crimes that involve domestic violence or any kind of violence. As far as where we verify them there are many websites out there exclusively for providers to verify potential clients. These websites tell us how many times other providers have screen this particular person, if they are sex offenders, if they are NCNS, what name their cell number is under and even where they live.
How can we as hobbyists be sure that the information out there is proper and correct? I know of RS2K and P411 but not any others. Just saying, sometimes a scorned or angry provider can hurt a regular guy, perhaps.
Most providers will ask you for 2-3 references that is the most common form of verifying so if you have that you have nothing to worry about. Even if a scorn provider (which remember the golden rule if you didn't do anything wrong you shouldn't fear anything) writes something negative about you I'm going to take majority over the minority meaning that if your first 2 providers are saying you are good to go I will undermine what the other one said. As far as you finding out what other providers write about you I have no idea how you can find out. I'm pretty sure the provider that you are trying to see would tell you that the provider will tell you what she found on her search in regards to you and then you could take it from there.
Many providers won't tell you if you're blacklisted. You'll know because you start being declined for dates. Most providers don't want to deal with the begging and excuses that guys make when they are told so they don't tell them. Some won't reply to you at all. You can't find out unless you have a provider friend who is a member of most of the main BL sites out there and they are willing to tell you. Chances are-they won't.
Google and Bing yourself. There isn't a whole lot that can be done to hurt you other than a provider entering phony info on a national Black List, but many providers can see thru the BS. Don't burn bridges (if possible), get Whitelisted, and be a good client. Other than that, stay active on the board.
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and I've never had an issue being screened.
Also, my real identity is virtually non-existent.
Can you do the same with your TER cyber one?
Which is the most reliable options, and easily filters out LE. Now if the lady wants to screen you based on your behavior during appts. references are generally used for that.
and while I don't divulge into what they are for me, I will say, I am no longer part of the P411 community for reasons I didn't find useful in this regard, actually quite the opposite. I also found that the pond was just far too small there and really was minor compared to the many other gentlemen who choose to frequent this playland. There are quite a few that are under the radar for pretty valid reasons and should be respected as such.
As long as both sides can be verified in some way successfully, who's to say what someone's way of screening is right or wrong. That truly goes for both sides, both women and men, as the screen(er) and screen(ie) lol. Ultimately, we all have to do what works for each of us comfortably.
We all run our businesses very differently with the same end result in mind. I suppose screening would be treated in the same regard, with the same end result in mind.
unless he's not married and is self-employed. Even so, I'll never ask for it because I can verify other ways. That said, everyone does what makes them comfortable and it's fine with this Ho.
Personally, I like to get a hobbyist's account info from P411, D-C or RS2K. I also want references, preferably girls who are on TER. And if he's a board member or reviewer here or on another reputable site I want that too. I'll read his reviews, contact a few of his refs and if all that checks out we'll rock out with his cock out.
The RS2K information is your real name and the city you live in. Now maybe a Bob Smith who lives in Chicago she couldn't find out more but for most other names it wouldn't be too hard to do a google search.
but threw it in because it's big in the midwest. I'm not from there. I am familiar with the other two service and no real names are used.
clients are sane?
How do you screen minus personal info?
... and another thing, those screening services require personal info. What makes people believe they are on the up and up?
First of all, I sure as shit don't think you're sane.
Also, P411 is definitely on the up and up. They do require some personal info but they destroy if once they give you a membership. If you don't believe that, fine. But I have not heard of a SINGLE instance of a hobbyist's personal info being leaked from P411.
Based on your posts on this thread I wonder if you ever actually get laid.
Call me a skeptic, I just don't believe it.
I would think once the info is destroyed, what good would screening a client through a verification site do, after an unfortunate incident were to occur?
Smart providers screen clients. I would hope we agree that's for everyones’ benefit.
If a potential client doesn’t have an account on a screening service, many ladies are willing to provide alternative screening. That means s/he’ll need to pony-up, at least, a real name. After that, or maybe a couple more times, good references can kick-in.
One could easily make the argument that independent providers are less vulnerable (of less interest?) to a data hack(er)...LE?... than big companies with a vast repository of names. (Probably a discussion for another thread) .
I’m not suggesting *anything* about screening services---only that if I don’t trust a provider enough to safely manage simple info like my real name, I don’t trust her enough to see her in the first place. And, if I trust her enough to see her, I don’t care if she knows my real name
We have a BINGO!
Not everyone here is married, I've done it twice and that was enough.
I retired early and have no plans on ever working again so I don't care
I have 411 and DateCheck to make things easier for providers and increase my odds of getting an appointment, not so I can hide.
"rock out with his cock out" haven't heard that in awhile ... Love it! 😎
Personally, I like to get a hobbyist's account info from P411, D-C or RS2K. I also want references, preferably girls who are on TER. And if he's a board member or reviewer here or on another reputable site I want that too. I'll read his reviews, contact a few of his refs and if all that checks out we'll rock out with his cock out.
Along with othe tools but that's a secret among us hookers!!!
It's no secret. Google can be a monger's friend. I run my E Mail, Ph# etc. through Google periodically to make sure that there is no personal information associated with the info I give escorts. We have a few secret places too.
If I do find out an escorts personal info the only thing I care about is D.O.B. It's fun to know how many years they are shaving off their real age!
I've always wondered what escorts talk about when they check a client's references?
Is it just to make sure the client is not LE, dangerous, dirty or do they also talk about what the clients likes/dislikes in order to prep for the appointment?
What do escorts talk about when they check references to screen?
Is it just to make sure the client isn't LE/dangerous/scam artist/dirty or do they also talk about the client's likes and dislikes in order to enhance the upcoming session?
(I apologize in advance if this is a double post, browser shut down just as I hit post)