Not to mention it is an extremely dangerous practice that could cost you your life. I am not defending the violent reactions that some guys have to this type of thing. I am just pointing out that it exists.

Ask yourself, is this really worth risking your life for?

As for me, I make my own choices about who I see, and I would be very unhappy to have certain choices "made for me" via a deceitful hooker. I would not be violent about it, but I would be very upset.

Sorry if I sound like a homophobe, but a post op "TS girl" is still not a "real" woman to most straight guys. I walk if a woman is ten years older or twenty pounds heavier than advertised, I damn sure would walk if her vagina was "man made".

You asked.

A very straight forward question.  

I don't want to sound judgmental and I am personally not bothered that some guys like TS providers, pre- or post-op.  But if you're not a genetic girl, I think guys have the right to know.  No doubt this will cost you some business, which may not be fair, but I believe in truth in advertising.  Not that there's much in this business anyway, lol!

but you may encounter a guy with a temper and why take the chance , be truthful about yourself not only to you but to others and see what happens . just to post is in a way deceitful and you could get a bad reputation . good luck and remember once its off its not going back on so think long and hard ( pun intended ) .

about your sexual identity. If you do advertise in regular female section, you make sure that your dates have heard loud and clear of who you really are.  There are lot of new people in this world, who may not catch on the industry lingo. There could be issues with people not paying enough attention and making error. How many times we hear of stories where people end up at wrong hotel or in a hurry short change a lady... You don't want to be in a room with someone who hates you for being the third gender.  

Yes.

it would be deceptive and not lead to a good result for either you or your clients.

In my own case, I met a PO gal after we had established a very good rapport on line.  When it came time to get physical however, my body just couldn't do it.  The chemistry I was getting was like it was still a guy, not a gal.  I felt very bad about it, and the gal was extremely gracious about it and offered to refund my money, but I demurred.

But since then I know better than to meet up with a PO gal, and I think most POs know this fact and therefore are up front about it.

By the way, I share Tobi's views on you personally, and wish you success.

The warning that BIB and GaG gave about getting the wrong client is real and I want to first echo that caution.

(You guys know I love you, but you also know how pissed I get over some of the ignorance here when it comes to gender identity and trans* issues.)

None of them were insulting or rude, and all were intended to be helpful.  I have often disagreed with GaG on the whole "anyone who sucks a TS dick is gay" thing, but that's not where he or any of the others went this time. Everyone was direct, honest and respectful.  So far, at least.

the op now pre op wants to go post op and is asking what if she ( post op ) doesn't tell . we are just stating how we feel and I don't think I was rude in anyway just stating how I felt and what could happen so we are a poll of men whom the op now pre op I assume may encounter when he fully becomes a she post op . and I still recommend rod take her out to celebrate he does toot his mighty horn with open mindedness towards all  . and while I have your attention which I hope I do you look amazing in some of your photos id let you have me and id love it . have a nice night tobi  

see girls like you just look so hot and ive always dated girls like you who look so hot and I love girls like you who are so hot now if you were a fugly maybe my opinion would be different however you are not a fugly and because of this I am only attracted to females so its really all your fault . but I forgive you and lets kiss and make up

The OP is just as much of a woman as I am. By both implying that she's a gay man as well as implying that you'd feel the need to slough off your skin if you "felt gay" is just really insensitive. I've seen the things that many of my trans* friends and family members have had to go through, and all of it is solely the result of ignorance and bigotry. I'm not saying you have to fuck her. I'm just saying that it never hurts to take some time to learn about each other's differences and to grow from that knowledge.

but the main point was safety and some men would or will get very mad so why take the chance . the op and I do give credit to her for coming here and asking politely will get honest replies and I hope the op thinks about all the answers and that's what this board is for . not to be politically correct but to give opinions and I think its fair to say we can agree to disagree sometimes but I really didn't say anything that isn't possible . oh refer to bachelor party movie , tom hanks the little dude taking a shower after finding he was with a guy , yes im that handsome fellow .. lol  

When a post op girl would still make him "feel gay"... There's really no reasoning with a person like that. So I decided to not even answer. I appreciated the honesty tho.  

Hi Tobi. Thanks for the support. The original question was because us girls who aren't necessarily genetic, once going post op there's really nothing male about us at that point so; therefore we may feel like it's natural to post and ad where genetic girls post theirs. At least that's how I would feel. But since this is a two way street I wanted to ask how guys would feel about it.  

First of all, if I respond to your girl ad, you "are girl enough" then and later.

A middle ground response? I appreciate the permission, and will proceed.

Shit, I have trouble knowing whether I should advertise as 34D or 36C, because I am both lol.

you ms. davette look spectacular in your workout and I would like to offer myself to you as a workout partner anytime you wanted . I could hold you so gently as you stretch your body and id like to add what a beautiful body it is . just a thought as this is a time of giving and I would like to give you now a kiss and a hug because your just so cute xo  . have a nice night devin and a happy thanksgiving .  

and im not so pc , but I promise to work on it for the new year , okay . omg the two of you would be amazing together with me of course . lol icky that's cute ....x

I completely agree with everything you said. My point was more against the typical view around here that sexual orientation and gender identity are the same thing, and that trans*women are just gay men in drag. That wasn't at all meant to undermine the struggles of trans* and genderqueer people, but rather to encourage greater understanding when it comes to this stuff.  

ah...ok. Seriously.

where he said "it felt like a dude " . ummm kinda what I said just different words , yes if I was dupped and with you I would feel as if I was in a gay situation and that's my opinion am I entitled to one ? actually I now do believe your a girl because you sure do whine like 1 .
best of luck to you , please be safe and have a nice thanksgiving.  

I think I'm asking more from a moral perspective. Because there's the way I feel about myself. And of course while I wouldn't tell anyone about my past. I also do not lie about it. So if the question pops up. I wouldn't lie about you. In a business full of deceit. I try to be as honest as possible. And of course I also i don't wanna jeopardize my physical health by meeting a homophobic person

It's been nice.

Actually, safety has nothing to do with it.  TS people are no more likely to carry STDs than anyone else, and actually less than some.

Kind of like a picking your battles type of thing for your own safety and well being.  

homosexual encounter , exactly ..! thanks turkey  

punching the now girl . lol never thought about disease at all .  

It's ok to refer to me as "she " or "her". Trust me. Ur tongue is not gonna fall off. When u refer to me repeatedly as "the op" ... U might as call just say "it" instead.... It's easier to type I guess.

Is it possible... And please think before answering... That the post op girl who other than not being able to have babies... Has nothing to do with ur homophobia? For all u know you probably already saw a post op ts who never bothered telling u and u probably had a great time. Now that's something to make you think about.

A homophobic person who doesn't acknlowedge the fact that I am a girl (if not genetic) will not sit to reason with me. So you would first need to comprehend that if you're homophobic... It really doesn't matter how I see myself. But how you perceive me as. I guess this is as clear as I can be.

I understand that you're coming from a place in which you're so uninformed that you don't realize how ignunt' you're being. But.....unless you're actually intending to be a complete ass? Please try listening more and spouting off less.

Omg thanks ova. I thought it was clear... apparently not enough.

What's past is passed. I only care about the current plumbing and if it's up to date, no problemo.

Yay

a girl from a guy its not hard a dick is a dick .. something for you to think about .  

the way you wrote it left it open to multiple interpretations.  And lots of people do have the mis-perception I addressed.

im just having some fun ..xo xo happy thanksgiving to you and all the best ..

He just wants to play around on here. A lot of people will only take time to go so deep in thought or comprehending what someone says, so they'll take it out of context. Such is life in general. But some do get the concept of not interrupting. I think BIB was reading and interrupted his own reading to respond lol,

trapped inside you and now your a woman . happy ! omg take some midol and relax okay  

I know. But I think it's obvious he was just avoiding using a personal pronoun.

OMG , teach em and lose em ..

I can totally see bib asking girls now.... "And for the record... Ure not post op right" lol. So funny.

I know it is a SAD FACT that this country is spiritually cavemen-mentality when it comes to the subject of sex. We ranked just above the Muslim countries and that's about it -everybody else is light years ahead.

up here as a major factor for some women who wont see guys who see ts girls .. am I correct ? and if I am some ladies aren't so pc either ... yes I  think im correct..  

My good friend had reassignment surgery in Thailand a few months ago. Before that surgery, she had already had a legal name changed and was recognized as female on all documents and on her DL. She still identifies as being Transgender but I think that it would really be up to you at this point. The issue with my friend was she felt that fetishised as a TGirl rather than GG and didn't like feeling that someone liked her for her "equipment" & that was the reason for surgery. Remember you are in the business for not only the client but yourself first and foremost. If you decide to advertise as pre op or post op you're still going to have clients thst love and can't get enough of you. This is about you and what you want for your business, so forget what anyone else thinks. Being yourself will always prove to be a sucess. I wish you lots of love and luck in whatever decison you make. Xoxo

Guys.... Is this drunken Asian using an alias? LoL. I miss u drunken asian.

if I meant something , trust me im not shy ..lol lol  and im not gay either  

Apparently I'm really a girl who thinks that can teach a homophobic dude this is not 1950 anymore.  :-P

you will " respect my authority " that's so funny . not what you said .

"We ranked just above Muslim countries." Let me know when we throw gay folk in prison much less stone them to death. Drama much?