So, I'm thinking of making the "big cut".  Starting to date a lot of civie women.  There was a "scare" a while back.  At 43, I do not want any more kids.  I've raised a great kid, and sacraficed much to do so.  He's about on his own now, and now it is "me time".  While I absolutely adore kids, I am no longer willing to make the sacrafice, and as I don't much trust women in this regard, damn sure don't want to wind up a sperm donor and a wallet for the next 18 years.

Have you been fixed, and what was your experience?  I've heard of things like "painful ejaculation possible", inability to maintain erection (a mental thing I guess), "blue balls" from DSB, etc.

Anyone regret getting cut?  How long was your recovery?

scared shitless when I went in, it was over before I knew it.  In fact I have never known anyone who have had those problems from it either.
That was 20 yrs ago.  At that time they said there were studies that showed the backed up sperm would cause ....ummm ....wait a sec....oh, it was alzheimers!  I think!  Or was it.......ummmm......what was the question again?

To answer your first question, the procedure is really not a big deal at all.  It is usually done in the Dr.'s office, under a local shot, placed in the inguinal area.  It takes about 7 minuets, or less, especially for the urologists who have been at their craft for eons and years. You walk out of there on your accord, and drive yourself home, not a big deal.

But on another note...

I'm assuming you bring up the "snip snip"  because you foresee wanting bareback sex after your little "snip snip" am I right?

If you arent thinking about having bareback sex after your little "snip snip" please disregard my assumption, and no need to read any further.

But if you thinking of having bareback sex after a "snip snip", please do read on.

You want these same women that you are having bareback sex with, to trust you?  Sexually, personally, and otherwise?  Why?  You dont trust them, why would they give you, the one thing that you dont give them?

But sexually speaking...
Even with all the STD testing in the world, it is not foolproof, or for that matter, even testable in men, HPV, being one of them.

And since you said, "Starting to date a lot of civie women.", why would I trust you, that you and all the unknown to me women, that you are starting to date?

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I did it. It wasn't bad. Ice up your nuts for a few days and take some painkillers. I developed a special walk to keep my balls from getting knocked around when I had to go somewhere. That's what really hurt. Three or four days later, I was fine.

I do have some pain from time to time. Mostly, it's  a mild stabbing that goes away quickly. Sometimes, it feels like "blue balls", high school - style.

Finally, I'm sensitive to touch more than before. When I meet a new lady, I'll warn her that I had the procedure and that it's not a good idea to mess with the scrote.

It was quick and painless.  

The doctor gave me a sample cup and said "ejaculate 20 times and give me a sample".  I said "okay, see you tomorrow".  He wasn't amused.

I saw no difference in volume, libido or anything else.  Of course, I was married then and not really using it much, anyway.

Yes, pun intended! But still!

Very simple procedure, very little discomfort involved.  You might want to take it easy for a couple of days and keep the area iced down, a pack of frozen peas works good for that.  Then have fun with less worries of a "wardrobe malfunction".

me to go into tremors of sorts when ever I was doing it with a lady. But I was snipped a good 30 years ago.

Course this only happened at BBBJTCDTCIMNQNS, could it still be alzheimers? You got me worried now.

Never mind, carry on. I will.

screwing around an awful lot. for many of the same reasons you cite i simply wanted to have no questions about that any longer.

it was trivial. it was done late in the afternoon one day and i was back at work next morning.

The procedure is done on the outcall basis in the 'Herr-Doktor' office(hey who else except a NAZI would come up with this?). Had it done in the afternnon. Ice on sack for rest of the day. Back to work the next day. 'Spout-off' 10 times in a week and take back 'fresh water' sample.

Don't do it in the summertime.

Different experience than the majority;

The right testicle went without a fight. A shot into the sack,small incision,pull out the 'tube',snip off a length, burn the two ends and sew up the incision.

The left side wanted nothing to do with it. THREE shots into the sack before he finally conceded a whole damned syringe. Felt the scalpel twice. Just a minor discomfort.

Baby free ever since.

of drinking you under the table.

don't do what I did. It was in my drinkin' days, when I did a lot of stooopid things. I got snipped in the morning, then went home and shingled the roof in the afternoon. (In New England, in the winter) That evening, I started to feel some discomfort. I had, by this time, run out of beer, so I decided to walk to the store (In New England, in the winter) As I was gingerly walking to the store, I slipped on a small patch of ice, and came down directly on my already swollen nuts. When I got up the following morning, my balls were the same size and color as an eggplant.

When the doctor tells you to take it easy for a few days, pay attention!

Here's a news flash. Many of us are banging wifes, SO's and civies BB.
So do providers. Lets not be in denial here. How do you think so many providers become pregnant? The stork does not exist.

you pretty much make those non hobby activities open for public discussion.

"How do you think so many providers become pregnant?"

I think they got pregnant because of what you just said...

they "...are banging their husband's, SO's and civies, BB."

I'm crushed though, the stork really doesnt exist?

Specifically # 5

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=387421&boardID=12&page=1

Can you hear that bucket emptying now?

It's absolutely no big deal.  You're a little tender for a few days but nothing to keep you from playing golf or doing normal stuff.  You just won't be having orgasms for a week or so.

15 years ago, and like most have said, not a big deal at all.  This is assuming you go to a urologist, and not some guy with a weedeater.  

Cuddle up with a bag of frozen peas for the remainder of the day after surgery.  For the next couple of days just take it easy.  Just a dull ache for about 3 days afterwards, nothing serious, but DO take it easy.

No after affects, other than the relief of not worrying about crotch-fruit any more.  DO make sure and go to the after-appointments, and get friendly with the cup when they give it to you - give them every change to make darned sure there's no more wigglers.

Funniest part of my experience - I had to sign a waiver before the surgery, acknowledging that I knew one of the possible side effects was sterility.  Um, no kidding doc.

They want their cake and to eat it too...

What some guys don't realize is the board attitude thing cuts both ways.

However, I am glad that they cleared up all my confusion. They must have slept at a Holiday Inn Express, or was that Motel-6? I forget...

Nobody is attacking my junk with a knife.  I'm the proud father of a miscarriage and an abortion.  If anyone else wants to take chances with my seed, so be it, but I repeat...nobody is attacking my junk with a knife.

Those that know me realize the lengths that I go to in the name of avoiding pain.  Currently, I do so 3x per week, lol.

after our third child. She did want any more kids. We had had several rough spots in our marriage, and she had a major health scare in the beginning, and I was still open to having more kids either with her or, or someone else, so I declined. I told her why. She was hurt and angry, and felt betrayed, but stuck to my guns. Have not seen a need to do so since.

They say nothing productive.  All they do is insult someone who posts thoughts you don't want to hear.  Were you whistling past the graveyard as you thought up your answer?  Trying to convince yourself that STDs gained from a civie magically disappear when the person comes back into the hobby world?

To rephrase the argument you did not reply to:
--Lots of posters M & F have serious concerns about providers and clients who do BBFS in sessions
--Big issue is disease
--Bugs don't discriminate whether P4P or not
--So a guy doing BBFS is a risk regardless of whether the woman got an envelope
--That puts the topic the OP started into the gray area making it fair for discussion.  Unless you think he posted it on a discussion board so people would not discuss it.  Sure.
--The OP put it on an escort board so HE thought it a topic related to escorting.  Seems you know better and so you object when someone connects the dots between the OP and escorting.  But ONLY if they connect the dots in a way you don't like.

I expect you'll come back with a peachy kool attempted insult.  OK, but try to actually add to the topic being discussed at the same time.

Thanks.

Yes, I have a bad attitude about men who say they dont trust women, but then will turn around and expect those same women, to give him the very thing, he doesnt give them.

I'm guilty of #5, and if my comment today reflects my "bucket" in any way, I assure you, it is a positive thing for me.

I moan and groan about a lot of things that dont sit well with me, but I have NEVER, NOT EVEN ONCE, complained about the type of person I attract.

On the contrary, I have made posts praising my suitors, see the link below.

If my posts happen to deflect some, I assure you, I look at that as a good thing.

This had nothing to do with STD's.  It has to do with the possibility of fathering a child I do not want.  Women bitch and complain about guys not taking responsability for birth control, but when one does, suddenly it's a "trust issue".  Come on already.  

Sorry you took offense to the "not trusting women" comment.  But it comes from many years experience.  How many women here don't trust men?  How many times have we heard of providers checking to make sure a guy hasn't slipped off a condom while in doggie?  Worries about pinholes in condoms?  Worries that a guy is using the wrong type of condom (or one that has aged, sat in his wallet for months, and has more potential for breakage)?

What, you've never heard of women purposely getting pregnant in order to trap a guy (happened to me)?  Never heard of a woman claiming to be pregnant to try and get a guy to split with another relationship (happened to my buddy, but he was snipped, and knew better). You've never heard of a woman who out of ignorance of how the pill or other birth control actually works winding up pregnant because it was used or taken incorrectly?  I sometimes don't trust women's intentions, but more worrisome than that for me is I'm appalled at the ignorance some women have on how to use birth control effectively, or not tell their guy when they've "missed a few pills", thinking that "we'll probably be okay".

This all happens, all too often.  Pregnancy issues and STD issues are two different things.  In a monogamous civie relationship where we've both spent time together, I'll take my chances with STD.  Never again will I take my chances with unwanted pregnancy.  And especially not at my age.  At 40 plus, I have no intention of even allowing the possibility I could become a father at this age.  I've got a great relationship with a great kid.  I'm done.

I'm quitting hobbying as my reason for doing so has been achieved, and as stated, I'm starting to date a lot.  I won't hobby and date at the same time, period (and have no intention of not actively dating or being in a relationship anymore).  I've never done bbfs in the hobby.  I've recently been tested (and have done so every 4 months or so as it is a concern even when being "safe"), and all is clear.

What, because I've hobbied (or slept with another woman), bareback in any civie relationship is now a "no-no" for me forever?  How many providers here go home to hubby, boyfriend, or later retire and get a SO, and then go bareback?  

Don't trust women?  I guess not.  I'm willing to take the STD risk after a round of mutual testing.  Not willing to take the pregnancy risk.

scared of?  Being scorned or chastised for own personal real views?  Why?  Because you dont like who you really are?  Or because you feel the need for approval from strangers in the general masses?

Maybe Alfalfa is a photographer too

A real non-issue.

Birth control?  I thought that's what anal was for.
I am "fixed" it was no problem. No loss of performance.

Three posts, three insults, and ZERO contributions to the topic.

Thanks for making my crystal ball look good.

Why do you insist on demonstarting there is a great vacuum between your ears?  You could have at least TRIED to put some substance in your post.  No, probably that's asking too much, right?

Please let me know.

You're considering having the snip snip done because you dont trust women and you are afraid one of them will be deceitful in their reproductive ways, yes?

Did I misinterpret you?

That being said, you want these same women to trust you, with their sexual health, and allow you to let you have bareback sex with them?

Did I misinterpret you on that?

You are saying, you want these women to trust you enough, to let you have bareback sex with them right?

Maybe you're willing to take the risk of an STD so you can have bare back sex, but why would in the world would a women give you her trust to allow that?

I'm just saying.

...substance you have thus far ever added to a thread is  your “milk toast” comments. Always the board police w/you, never an original comment. Hopefully you can find your teeth next to your bed table floating in water when you rise this am. Also, make sure you eat your porridge & take your meds the nurse gives you @ the "Home".

Yes, a little misinterpretation.  Notice I said it just wasn't the possibility of deceit, but also the possibility of a woman being completely ignorant of how to use birth control effectively, or taking chances with it when she knows she missed pills, etc.  It happens.  We all know it does.  And where deceit is concerned in this matter, a "40 something" woman with the biological clock ticking louder and louder may be looking for nothing more than a sperm donor, who then involuntarily becomes emotionally and financially linked to this woman, and a child he did not want, for the next 20 years.  

And again, as for the STD thing, that is seperate from the above.  That is two people knowingly taking that risk together.  Entirely different from pregnancy risk, which is MUCH higher in my opinion than STD risk (assuming, again, a monogomous relationship).  The risk, trust, and repercusions goes both ways in that regard.  That is NOT SO with pregnancy IF a woman is scheming for a child for want of one, or to trap a man.  Keep in mind I speak from experience, as it happened to me.

If you don't believe that happens, or happens extremely rarely, then I'd say you're probably a good woman, but are also very much in the dark or in denial about these things.

And how many women have mothered children from different men, only to purport to her SO that it is in fact "his child".  It's bullshit, but happens all the time.

Until you can look at it from a man's perspective, you may not be able to comprehend.  A man has NO CHOICE in the prevention of a pregnancy other than taking matters into his own hands (vasectomy or condom). And condoms suck in an established monogomous relationship. At some point chances will be taken.  That's not a chance I want to take again.  

Plain and simple, I don't want another child, unless it was with someone I'd known and grown to trust for YEARS.  At that point, I'm too old for it.

So again, NO, I do not trust women in that regard.  Sorry if that offends, but again, it happens all too often, and the men are nearly always the ones (not to mention the kids) left holding the short end of the stick.

far outweigh the risks of giving birth to a child.