Your post was correct. Viagra while not completely safe, is reasonablely so when taken as prescribed. Next to no one is arguing about your post. The issue I am agreeing with Daffy on is CDL'S comment that food allergies kill more people than prescription drugs do is false. We left your correct comment about Viagra behind after CDL made his very incorrect comment on prescription drugs in general are.
Treads have a life of there own. Each post can change the subject of a branch of a thread. I don't agree with Daffy on a great many things, but when he is right, he is right. Prescription drugs kill tons more people than allergies, food or otherwise. This is a fact.
HI I just rejoined after long break... glad TER is back!! Here's a question for the ladies (or guys too). Can providers tell when a guy is on Viagra? And does it make a difference to them one way or the other on the quality of the session??
For me, as I got older into my 50, I reached the conclusion that I needed a little "help": I was still able to perform most of the times, but occasionally I wouldn't get as hard as I used to, or it would take a longer time to get "ready". So for me, Viagra definitely improved the fun.
But one thing I noticed right away since using Viagra, at least 4 or 5 different ladies have told me during our playtime "you are SOOO hard", usually with an excited giggle or big smile. Not once had I received that compliment before Viagra, so definitely there was something good going on! I never have the courage to say I am on the blue pill. I am in good health overall, so I think to myself it comes across as natural?? But curious to know if providers can tell when a guy is on it or not. Are Viagra effects as noticeable to you as to me? LOL. Or do providers want us to tell them (as a warning perhaps? hahaha). Or maybe it does not it even matter to you?? For me, it is not that I will want to pound them for an hour or 2 non-stop. That is not why I take it. I feel it just improves the experience for us both.
Curious to hear your thoughts on this topic!!!! And if you are a provider that recognizes me, now you know (haha!)
Here are the main tells for V:
1. Flushes (more visible if pale skin)
2. Sinus congestion (nasal congestion)
3. Unnatural hardness for someone who is on the older side
Put these three together and it's a textbook sign. Most AMP storefront women know this (as AMPs attract an older clientele). If an old guy has stuffy nose and a very hard dick, it's likely he's on a pill. Most girls don't care as long as you don't take forever to finish.
Thanks for the useful info Sir. Good points. I am good on #1 and #2, luckily I don't experience those side effects so not an issue for me. So far I just see pure benefits, no down sides or negative effects. So I suppose in my case the tell tail sign would be my age, when eventually the hard on doesn't match my age it will be obvious! For now tho, I will keep it quiet and enjoy!!
There's one more and it's about skin temperature. I have this when I take it to party. I'm a younger guy, so I only take it when I'm out to fuck 5+ girls in a day/night, and girls often notice how my skin is unusually hot - a side effect of vasodilators.
Can be an issue right now amidst covid concerns. Your body temperature doesn't really go up- but skin gets hotter. So some can mistake this for having a fever.
I only tried Viagra once. I was in my mid-40s and I was going through a stretch where I couldn’t get it up for my wife. I had a beautiful wife and she always turned me on but for a couple of months, no matter what we tried, I went through a frustrating time when I was impotent. I went to the doctor and he checked me out and prescribed Viagra. I took it a few times and while it did solve the impotence problem, I also had a severe allergic reaction to it. Every time I took it I had severe painful hiccuping. I would have hiccuping episodes for hours and each time I hiccuped it hurt my stomach. The doctor said it was an allergic reaction and advised me to quit taking it. I did, my hiccuping stopped, and I got over my impotency problem so I could enjoy my wife again ...
Until she passed away in 2018 from colon cancer.
But now that I’m over 50 I am having the same types of problems the OP described. A couple of times I’ve been with providers but I couldn’t get hard enough to do anything. It’s no fun getting older.
Can't always finish. Viagra can make it hard to cum. So besides being pounded to death, the providers probably also hate the amount of work they have to do right up to the end of the session in order to get the guy off. I think those two reasons are why a provider would care about viagra etc.
Hey, sometimes customer cums on the first minute, sometimes he comes on 50th minute. It all balances out.
Most providers I know hate it when a guy takes Viagra when he doesn't really need it just so he can pound away on her for 59 minutes of a one hour session. It's a rare girl who really likes to fuck that long, especially a girl who does it for a living.
Viagra is well known for making it hard for the guy to cum and wearing girls out for their other customers of the day. Like you I only use boner pills if I expect to be fucking several women in a relatively short period of time.
I mean, I'm talking about different customers who cum fast and aren't on Viagra balancing out the pill takers. Although, I'll say that most of the time, a guy on V will take around the same time to nut on his first nut. Then, yes, refractory periods will shrink and next sessions will take longer.
As someone who can usually control when I cum, I am about the journey and not the destination. So generally I will go as much as I want on the first shot, if I want to not have MSOG. It's not uncommon for me to go 40-45 mins for a single shot. A nut feels good for 30 seconds at most, a moist pussy on other hand feels great to fuck for a lot of time.
I agree with that, sometimes I cum, sometimes I don't. But I always have a good time trying. In that case it is better, in my opinion, to be hard than to be able to cum. (I can always cum eventually if the provider puts enough effort into it, including a vigorous hand job. But they are not always up to the task or time has run out.) But I did get to pound them until I ran out of breath. I love that.
What I have actually heard from a couple of providers is the guys on V have harder time to cum. But I think it could be just a correlation and not causation. Old age may be the cause and not the meds but older men are more likely to take the meds.
On the topic of bad effects of V or not, viagra is a byproduct of an innovative drug originally meant to be hypertension drug. When the college male student subjects enrolled in the trial refused to give back the leftover supplies of the drugs- a follow up study showed the experimental drugs were helping the male subjects with better boners.
It does not happen to every person who takes the drug but the effect is real. I personally can't cum at all on boner pills and had to switch to injections. I can cum soft easier than I can on Viagra. I will admit my issues with maintaining an erection are more related to trauma to nerves in the area do to a botched surgery than blood flow issues. So my issues may be less typical. But the drug lists reduced sensitivity as a side effect right in it's drug information packet as a common side effect.
I plan to get on TRT once I get to that point, and I imagine that would help certain guys to the possibly not need dick pills. A provider told me its sometimes hard to nut on Viagra which I think sort of defeats the purpose, no?
I love lifting weights and exercising. About five years ago I noticed I was having to work out LONGER to keep my muscle mass the same. I PM'd a hobby friend that I knew was already doing TRT who used to be a competitive Power Lifter. He told me to go to a sports medicine doc and not my primary doctor. I did, and he got me started on TRT. I noticed major improvement within a couple of weeks. If you have a sports motivation rather than a hormonal one, you will likely get a higher dosage. If you're doing it just to keep from growing "moobs" or breaking out in tears when there's a puppy commercial on TV because you have "low-T", the dosage will be smaller. The SIDE EFFECT of all that T is that I have better and longer lasting wood during sex. This is not the kind of side effect you complain about, so I didn't. Lol
My hobby friend is a few years older than me, has used sildenafil when needed, but also added trimix to his arsenal of sex boosters. I'm already on record of using sildenafil for MSOG. I book two hours, take the pills as I'm walking to he door of the incall, and since it takes about an hour to work, it gives me wood for the SECOND pop. On the other hand, he says the trimix can keep him hard for about two hours, and he often walks out of a Kgirl incall with a boner showing down his pant leg. Even after he cums, he can keep fucking until she cums, too, because he doesn't go limp after cumming like men naturally do. I'm thinking about getting some for those times when my provider-girlfriend wants me to take the place of 6 customers on her day off - Lol).
I would avoid injections unless you really have ED issues and can't take viagra/it doesn't work on you.
prostate cancer. Also, Viagra has the side effect of making it harder for the guy to O.
It does not make it easier to GET prostate cancer, but if you have any kind of cancer cells in your body, the T will exacerbate and accelerate their growth. That's why its important to get regular testing of your PSA score. I use an online lab service and get tested once of month for Testosterone, Estrodial, hepatic function and PSA score for $99. You can order the test yourself, go to Quest and they send the lab result directly to your email address within 72 hours. If you take a doctor's order and get same tests from Quest and your insurance doesn't cover it (most WON'T beyond one a year), they charge you about $350. When I have a semi-annual meet with my doc, I just print up the last six months of test results and take them with me for my medical file. My PSA has remained at 2.0-2.2 ever since I started on T. Anything below 4.0 is cancer-free.
Yes, a score in the 2s is fine and one over 4 is troubling but PSA can bounce around and can spike for no reason as well. Last year mine spiked to around 4 and my doc said to get it re-tested. It came back 2.2. The last one was 1.6. What's more important than the absolute number is the trend over a period of time.
I get tested monthly. If you don't get tested but once or twice a year, then yes, your prostate health can go south quickly. By testing monthly, any trend, up or down, will be quickly apparent. I have been doing this for five years, so I think I know what I'm talking about when it comes to TRT and prostate health. No "boning-up" necessary unless I'm with a hot young woman.
that you should never have the blood test taken if you've had any sexual activity within 48 hours of the test.
I had always had low PSA scores until this year when it jumped up 2 points, freaking me out. However I had the test redone late in the week so that many days had past since my last sexual activity, and the score was back down to where it had always been.
that go by where I haven't had sex, except on Sundays, which is a day you can't get blood drawn, so I guess that means my score range of 2.0-2.2 INCLUDES whatever the harm is that you're talking about from sex within 48 hours of the draw. So maybe my REAL range is even lower?
Despite your admonishment, my last PSA about a month ago was 1.6.
Mine is the 3 - 3.5 range, but it jumped up to almost 6 when I got tested on a Monday have had sexual activity on Saturday. My doctor is the one who asked about sexual activity, and when I got retested on that Friday, having had no sexual activity in the interim, it fell back to around 3.5.
In any case, I thought I'd share this in case anyone else experiences the same thing.
ask you her name what her rate was? Lol
I had a similar occurrence. I've been on TRT for 10+ years for medical issues. I get my PSA and testosterone levels checked every three months. It's always sub-2 PSA. Then one test if comes back 5+ PSA. My MD is concerns and says let's re-check in a month, and then if it's still high we'll be concerned. 30 days later back to sub-2 PSA. MD and I have a convo, and he asks me if, by chance, I had had sex within 48 hours of the aberrant test. Looked at my calendar and by gosh I'd had a friend in the weekend before the test and we'd been fucking like crazy for three days. We had a good laugh, as my MD is also a good friend and neighbor. It was only then that he told me no fucking for a few days before the PSA test. DOH!
My prostate wishes yours to stay small and smooth.
My only disappointment was my PCP, a young woman, did not give me the proverbial "finger wave."
Correct, it is the rate of increase (or velocity) that seems to be more important than the absolute level. So, going from 1.0 to 2.0 over a one-year period is more concerning that an increase from 3.8 to 4.2. PSA scores can vary between labs, whether you had sex 2 or 7 days before the test, etc. Getting tested monthly, per CDL, seems nonsensical to me if you are really interested in score changes over a sufficient period of time. If you (CDL) that paranoid that you get a PSA monthly, a much better approach would be get an MRI of your dick every 2-3 years, assuming insurance will cover.(CDL) MRI's are so powerful these days that they can identify tiny lesions in your prostrate. Of course, continue to get PSA tests every 6 or 12 months.
My context of monthly testing was as an adjunct to TRT, not just for general prostate health. You seem to have left that out when you decided frequent testing was "nonsensical." I have a friend who was on TRT that went from being absolutely clean to needing prostate surgery in eight months. If he can been testing monthly like I am, he could have avoided the surgery by catching it earlier. I'm not a paranoid guy. In fact I'm willing to bet YOU wear a face mask way more than I do because you have gone all in on the Covid hysteria. I AM prudent, and when I know I am increasing my risk by taking the TRT, I will mitigate that risk by testing PSA every time I test my T levels. BTW, its called a "prostate", not a "prostrate". Prostrate is what you are during the MRI. Also, your prostate gland is not in your dick, as you stated. I thought most men knew that.
I guess I missed the prostate location during anatomy class. I always refer to it as my dick MRI but I will be sure to correct myself in the future. First of all, a PSA under 4.0 does not mean you are cancer free. It simply means that the likelihood you have prostate cancer is lower than if your PSA is over 4.0. In fact, prostate cancer is found in 15% of men that have scores under 4.0. The role of PSA velocity was explained to me by a leading Hopkins urologist when I was getting a prostate biospy. Not a fun procedure unless you like pissing blood for the next two weeks. Assume you start at a PSA level of 1.8 and you increase about 0.2 per month but scores still vary due to the nature of the test. If you just compare month by month you think, no problem. If you compare the results from year-to-year you might be headed to a biopsy. Unless your friend had a biopsy prior to taking testosterone there is no way of knowing if he had a preexisting tumor or it was related to testosterone. In any event, it is highly likely that his urologist would have waiting a number of months before doing a biopsy.
Luckily for me, I do not experience any negative side effects. Never heard from anyone I know that V makes it hard to finish. Not in my case, now I come even better than before because all the action leading up to it is better. All I see are benefits, mainly, the ability to get a rock solid hard on, which makes me able to have more fun, and more positions are possible again now just like when I was in my 20s!
What is “trimix”? OTC? Nugenix is a good product for gym work, and I feel a bit of a down-turn in bedroom performance when on the 2 week lull they suggest.
that allows more blood to be retained in the corpus cavernosum for an extended period of time. Because its an injectable, its a controlled substance and therefore only available by doctor's prescription. From what I have been told and read online, the only potential side effect comes from overdosing. Because its administered locally to your dick, it doesn't matter what medications you take or any other medical issues you may have as long as your doctor says you are healthy enough in general for sex.
Its administered by a 5/16" baby needle, but if you're squeamish about sticking a syringe in your dick, it may not be for you. I'm told by my friend that there is little discomfort in the injection and the results are more than worth it. He's sorry he didn't get onto this a few years ago when he first started to have endurance issues.
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A modest dosage of trt 100-125mg of doctor prescribed test cyp, paleo type diet (with moderate amount of starchy tubers)... Fully body strength training 3x a week alternated days with 30-45 minutes of cardio, plenty is sunshine, a good vitamin d3 k2 5000ius daily supplement along with a highly absorbable Zinc/magnesium complex before bed on an empty stomach and all vigara-similar drugs will be obsolete! .... and will be an in shape lean mean hobbyist that the ladies will look forward to spending time with!😉
47 years old and have been known to not need any down time to recover between romps which I do feel this all helps play a role in.
And not one response. ok ladies let me see if I can lend a hand here....
1-Can providers tell if we are on Viagra- Most likely YES! Of course your age and a stiff dick could give you away...But my feeling as a whole, they could tell. After all, they seen it all.
2-Do they even care?- Well this is a tough one as each girl is different. The one and done types, hell yeah they care. How do they delicately tell someone "Not this time honey" when after 40 into the date, the dude wants to jack another one on her.
But for the girl that allows MSOG within an hour, then go for it but don't spring that 3rd hard on at the 59th minute.
Now ladies, I may be a little off but not by much.....correct me if I'm wrong.
Taking Viagra or pills are always harmful they do a lot of damage to the body and man just for having fun for a few minutes of sex results in several hours pain
I usually take a V before sex. Other than flushing and a bit of occasional light muscle pain so far taking V has been more than worth it.
I know he doesn't have anywhere near enough "at bats" to qualify yet, but virtually every post he makes is piling up the points.
It's hard to believe that in a single, poorly written, run on sentence he could score FOUR solid SPOTY points.
1) Viagra and other pills are not "always" or even "usually" harmful
2) Viagra is not known to "do a lot of damage" to the body or it would not be available to be prescribed.
3) Viagra will hopefully be getting you a lot more than a "few minutes" of sex, that's actually part of the reason guys take it
4) Viagra doesn't cause "several hours of pain" for anyone I know, I suppose it might happen to some guys, but not for the overwhelming majority of Viagra users.
So congratulations you idiotic fuck, four SPOTY points in a single sentence. Good fucking job.
This is just nonsense.
Viagra unless ODed on (or if you have allergic reaction), does no real damage to the body. It's a vasodilator- it lowers your blood pressure. In fact, it has eveb been cited as a potentially good prophylactic for heart disease (see link)
It's quite harmless as long as dosages are followed, and in many countries around the world it's sold OTC with no issues. Thailand, Mexico, UK, etc.
Just take cialis. It works longer and it's not as stiff. Just a nice solid cock. Not a freaking metal pole. I have taken both regularly but not only cialis.
people started nit picking shit.
Back on topic...
I've been using Viagra for the past 7 years -- either real brand-name at an unreal cost, that from an online pharmacy from overseas, or for the last many years generic sildenafil with special pricing through Blink. When I was at my heaviest (40 pounds overweight) and lacked any exercise, I could get hard with V, but had a tough time finishing and my poor regular girl would endure a pounding or have to finish me by hand. When I got in better shape from exercising and eating better, I still needed it to remain erect, but finished more normally.
So my guess here is along with what others have said, that depending on the situation and condition of the male, it may be uncomfortable for the lady at some point as the male tries to finish and he just keeps pounding.
In my case, physical health made a huge difference in my ability to perform and to finish, but for the most part, after my physical condition improved, the lady didn't know and had no reason to care.
I'll close in saying, use it respectfully.
I get chewable generic Cialis, 20 ngs,, from an online pharmacy which says “Canadian”, but who knows. Really cheap at maybe a couple of bucks a pill! A few years ago, I would lose my erection halfway through a session on occasion if I had a prolonged daty break mid session. Now i chop the pills up into 5-10 Mg pieces. The result is a 60 minute missile! Sometimes it takes a bit longer to come, but I rarely blow early during a great bbbj, for example! No problem settling back down after an explosion, needing a few minutes, not instantly flaccid. Several providers have commented that I get hard like a young guy! I Credit their sexiness!
Whatever it takes Make that cock hard and last longer
Kisses
Thank you Sheila!!! That is what I wanted to hear!!!!
I can never tell the difference between powdered donut dick and viagra though.
If you go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on that can get a little excessive. I get bored after 1/2 hour of penetration because I know they're not going to cum for a long time.
I have to ask, what's a powdered donut dick? I thought I'm fairly versed in sex slang, but I'm kind of drawing a blank there.
is a reference to cocaine, and the UD has a couple of references to sexual practices employing cocaine on various body parts, especially the genitals, so I'm going to surmise that this might refer to applying cocaine to to the penis prior to sexual activity.
But, it could be something else I suppose.
There are people who can't cum because they did too much coke. I always thought that was because of viagra until a friend told me about that too.
I don't party, so it took me a while to be able to realize they were both causes of inability to finish. A great gal from this board actually was the one who explained it to me - I think she thought it was funny that it took me forever to get it. So I guess I'll pass on the lesson to you guys lol
I do want to clarify that it has nothing to do with having anything on any body parts.
I do not suggest this because it would be exposing an unwilling participant to a drug, especially if they don't do drugs. As someone who has seizures, that would be a very bad, bad thing - please do not do that - I have never heard of people putting that stuff on their you know what's.
is a reference to cocaine, and the UD has a couple of references to sexual practices employing cocaine on various body parts, especially the genitals, so I'm going to surmise that this might refer to applying cocaine to to the penis prior to sexual activity.
But, it could be something else I suppose.
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I thought you were talking about coke too at first, but the thing about coke - at least from what I've heard, never done it myself - is that you often can't get it up int he first place. Which is quite different from viagra, lol.
A half hour is only 3 on and on's . . . . 8 would be an hour and twenty minutes of on and on's, just to be clear.
I that's the case, I absolutely love to boink, pillow talk, grab a drink, boink again, yada yada yada.
Can Viagra do that? Or is it just a one and done pill?
Viagra will help someone go additional rounds. However it doesn't guarantee it. A man's refractory period depends on the individual and circumstances. For myself if I cum at 45 minutes, I am not going to cum again in the next 15. It's possible in a 90 minute session and still more likely in a 2 hour session. I'm 67. If I didn't take Viagra (or Cialis) I would probably lose erection around 30 minute mark, cum or no. I'm not sure I'd rise again in 2 hours, been a few years since I didn't use V, so don't know how my age has changed response without it.
It shortens the refractory periods. So, yes. I usually take it only for binge days. Personally, I already have short refractory periods, and viagra just puts it in overdrive. I'm talking consistent 10 minute rests between something like 8-15 nuts. The time between first and second still might be a tad longer, depending on how long you ago you had your previous nut.
Your body typically would say nah at that point even if your mind is excited, but vasodilators make it effortless to get aroused exactly as much physically as you do psychologically.
On the contrary, if you have psychological issues and can't get aroused or are desentisivized by porn, viagra probably won't help you. You have to be still sexually stimulated via your brain. I think I told GaG a story where I was about to binge, popped a pill, but then to had to deal with work and cancel entire night of appointments.
I don't think I was even hard that night,because I was just focused on my work stuff.
Hell Yes!! It will vary with each guy of course but in my case, Viagra consistently allows me to go more than once during a typical 1 hr date. Before V, I could do it sometimes but not always, started happening less when I hit my mid 40s. So now, main reason I take V is to get a solid hard on, but the secondary effects are that I can last longer and can go more than once in a short time. After some pillow talk usually for 5 or 10 mins I am ready to go again. It is wonderful, especially with the right ladies who are as horny as I am. Definitely makes me feel like I am in my college days again!!
yes...providing the chemistry and rules allow for MSOG!...
Thanks for your honest opinion. I think you hit a very good point. If the chemistry is great between the 2 of us, maybe it won't matter much if I am on Viagra, but if you get "bored" easily after 1/2 hour of pounding then it will not be good no matter if it is a hard-on from Vitamin V or not.
From my experience, since I've been on V, most ladies I have good chemistry with and we will enjoy the full session more since I can maintain a solid hard-on and continue the action (on and on and on many times, the girl seems to want it as much as I). However I have indeed noticed 1 or 2 girls that we just didn't click, poor chemistry... they are the ones that will soon be asking, did you come yet, all business, and are apparently "bored". Glad those are few tho, and most are good. One energetic young lady i saw recently, i couldn't keep up with her even with my rock hard Viagra dick, and after a full session I was happily exhausted but she still wanted more, saying "I could fuck all day!". I guess I just need to find more of these type of young hotties that love it as much as I do!! hahah.
That's what I'm saying. Quite a few civvies out there want to continue fucking if you nut 30-40 minutes in. Girls who are genuinely attracted to you and/or are nymphos actually don't want you to nut fast and want to keep going for their enjoyment to be prolonged. Just like for me, Id rather spend my time fucking and enjoying it, than not fucking, but that's just me.
Anecdotal experience, of course.
Yes, we can tell,.. but from what I remember it is a difference between "powder" dick and viagra dick.
Sex is just not intercourse. It includes many, many things.
NOt being a nympho does not make you not sexual. If you like nymphos, great! I have been with men who, when they touched me, their hand when through my entire body - that's how strong the attraction was. But - unfortunately - some men aren't that great at keeping a woman turned on for that long, even if their hands are magical.
I feel when a man uses viagra, but can already go for 30 minutes (in intercourse itself, not the rest...) they become very mechanical as time goes on. If they can already last enough time for many women, they are taking it for ego purposes.
I don't know what it's like to be on viagra or even have a dick, but I do know what it's like to fk a mechanical man, yes, even one you'd naturally be attracted to.
(Nymphomaniacs and sex addicts aside.)
And I say, I sure do! I just saw this quote on a provider page or twitter somewhere ...
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"Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power." -- Oscar Wilde
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Nah I get it. I get bored too sometimes and nut early. I can definitely see and understand the mechanical part of it, as well as keeping a woman turned on. I guess my point was that sometimes if the girl is really into it she'll ask for you to keep going and going, etc. Maybe with a break in between.
I think you're talking about a different situation - if you're taking it for the intimacy to last longer, and you're enjoying sex "in the moment" then that's different. If you're a guy doing it to perform, that's another ball of wax.
If the guy is into it and reading subtle cues, it's easier for the woman to be turned on. But if he's just trying to fk, it's like he's having sex with a sex doll. The guy isn't even noticing where you might want him to "point it" so you can get off too. He's just aiming and fking.
When you're "performing" you're not precise. So it gets boring because it is no longer sex at that point, and most definitely not intimate. You're no longer having sex with that person, you're a tool to get them off.
I have a hismith sex-machine. It was 600 bucks. I can just use that if I need an object going in and out and in and out.
I guess my point was that sometimes if the girl is really into it she'll ask for you to keep going and going, etc. Maybe with a break in between.
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I'm not sure if I see the difference between someone who is "performing" and someone who's just fucking... are you saying guys who are not on v are less mechanical because they know they will come earlier ?
I think the logical step I'm missing is why this precision you're describing has to go away when a guy is on the pill. Ie, what is it about the performance part that makes one abandon the precision.
No, not saying that at all. As you will see below, the sentence I used was referring to both viagra examples.
There are people who do not need viagra; however, they take it because they want to show off how long they can keep their dick hard. It happens a LOT. Those kinds of guys are performers, and they are rarely precise on what my body wants and desires. They want to pretend they are in a porno, essentially.
Porn is made to be visual and is very mechanical. The goal is to cum, not to make looooooove like the movies - meow.
...are you saying guys who are not on v are less mechanical because they know they will come earlier ?
Got it now, thanks for explaining and being patient with me !
You sound like a patient person. I'm just posting because I can relate to it. When you are patient you expect others to be patient too. Not now but when I was younger some people didn't have patience with me, specially the female type.
Now I just don't care or there isn't as much people to interact with or whatever.
Not sure if you are talking to me or Team Rocket, but just to note, with the number of people you, me, and the others are banging, not everybody is going to be physically compatible. I don't think anybody should feel bad or good, just find the right ppl to fuck lol
Thank you for being patient with me! I can get wordy and the message becomes lost lol
This is a really great response. Thank you
We all have our personal styles, likes, and dislikes. I am simply answering your question.
That being said, if I'm not VERY intellectually stimulated, I get bored.
Sexuality is different with everyone. I can orgasm from the right eye contact or from someone breathing a certain way. If there's heavy chemistry? Simply by their presence. (Likely on edge.)
There are the "in-between" times where you think about things they said, or how smart they are... how interested in you they are.
A huge turnoff is being compared to other people verbally. To me, that's not intellect. It's not sexual. It's only the physical aspect.
Perhaps I may be different, almost 40 years old.... but it's been the same since I was young. Energy. When I look at the world, I don't even see the world, I see also what you don't see. (Theoretically.) So sex has to involve things you can't see with the naked eye, and if it does not have that, it bores me.
Lots of people want an actress... I don't act here or in real life. I want to attract people who have similar tastes. That has been my motto for years. That being said, when someone takes viagra (for ego purposes, not the ones who actually need it,) the sex is all about physical because they are like you. They seem to mainly care about the physical, not the spiritual, the nuances, the breathing patterns, the energies and the colors you see in your mind's eye when your body goes into euphoria. The smells, the tastes.
When you got o a restaurant and just get good ole' comfort food, or an all you can eat buffet, you're not really savoring the taste. But you are enjoying it. But you know you don't have to stop, and maybe you're not a flavor connoisseur.
When you go to one where the chef really knows their flavors, and you are a foodie, you are served (and eat) a lot less because the purpose is to take in everything from the ambiance, professionalism, the aromas, the flavor mixes, and the experience. (And, of course, the company and occasion.)
That being said, when I go to an all you can eat buffet, I have a plate full tops, of the tastiest things to me... and that's it while I watch everybody else try to actually get "all you can eat" with everything from the place, even if they don't particularly enjoy the food.
They want their money's worth. And that's fine if that's what they want to spend their money on.
It's fun sometimes, it feeds me, but my preference - and those who prefer me - I imagine like to savor the flavors and the moments - enjoying subtle nuances.
But still - over a half an hour of penetration every single time - it's too mechanical for me. Once in a while, however, all you can eat can be a blast!
My ED started in my early 40's.
It became a real turn off from me, and my wife at the time, when I could not cum. She felt awful, then started to suspect I was having an affair, which I was not. In my case, it was uncomfortable and pissed me off. At the time I had no idea about "Viagra Dick"
I used ED meds early in my hobby days, but never became a pounder for pounding sake.
Now I use a pump. My cock can stay hard after climax. On occasion ladies have continued to fuck me after I cum, which I think is real cool. I always let them know when I am finished and will continue the fuck if they would desire.
But that is just me.
It is beyond my imagination why any man would want to be a pile driver.
I've seen cock rings work as well - the whole pump thing is nice.
I had someone recently who you can fk after he cums. I fked for so long I almost passed out, and asked if he came - he said yeah, a long time ago lol!
I told him to tell me next time bc I almost passed out haha
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I can tell.
Don't count on it to hold back your orgasm.
If you've jacked off 3 times before u show up and have taken viagra,
it's just like fucking a dildo.
The dick and the brain are not connected at this point.
You're using the dick to prod a performance.
It also moves differently and the nuance isn't there. You become a sex doll and all of the nuances go away...
If you've jacked off 3 times before u show up and have taken viagra,
it's just like fucking a dildo.
The dick and the brain are not connected at this point.
You're using the dick to prod a performance.
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That was what we did before there were bonor pills to use/abuse. lol I could honestly fuck ALL night with my nose full until I was about 35 at which point it started having the opposite effect. I had my first experience with coke dick sometime in my mid/late 30's after spending hours talking this hot young thing into my bed only to have my very first experience with "equipment failure" what a sobering event. It pretty much ended my coke days. lol
Quite frankly unless a guy is a "two pump chump" I don't get the whole idea of jacking off before a session. The first one always feels so much better than the second, third or fourth one. When I was young enough to worry about cumming too fast, I was also young enough to have a very short recovery time. Now at my "advanced age" of 61 I have no worries about cumming too soon, and I really don't want to take any drugs that will lessen the sensation, although I will confess to occasionally taking a half or maybe a third of a Cialis to aid with my recovery time if I expect to do a lot of fucking over a whole day/night or more, but Cialis in small doses has no effect on the sensation I feel, unlike loading up on Viagra.
It's tough to differentiate between the two lol!
That was what we did before there were bonor pills to use/abuse. lol I could honestly fuck ALL night with my nose full
I guess if he's thirty, bet on the 8 ball. If he's sixty, bet on Viagra. lol
Some times is just mental and you dont even needed. Just match with a person that spark the joy.
It's all in your mind... unless theres medical reasons.
Sorry to break it to you, but it is NOT just all in your mind. It is medical. When guys hit that age, it just changes physically and you will need some extra help to get going like when we were 20. I was in denial for a long long time, as a lot of guys are..... But eventually I realized I was not performing the same and thought just try it..... and sure enough, I was rock hard again with Viagra.
It's like when you get old and your eyes get tired... your doctor says you need bifocals to read properly, but you are in denial and resist... but finally when you break down and get the damn bifocals you are amazed that you can read again!! And then you say to yourself, Why did I wait so fucking long... this is amazing!!!! LOL
Can a provider tell when a guy has use a delay spray? Even a high end one like Promesence?
Never tried it but I heard an interview with the founder on a podcast and it has a distinct odor. Probably could shower it off for any oral activit?
....think most providers would prefer a full 7" wallet vs a hard 7" cock....the thing to do is...HAVE BOTH....
I would rather he use Viagra than have performance issues. As long as it doesn't cause him to take 5 hours to orgasm! Which hasn't been an issue I've ever faced with it