I recall being very young and a bit wild , 15 maybe .
My parents brought me to a therapist because they thought I was not being a "good girl"
I saw this guy who my rents thought was brilliant , he was brilliant alrighty .
In therapy session I recall him getting into a discussion about 2 things I now feel were highly inappropriate.
The first was he asked me if I thought I was a lesbian or gay . I had never ever given this any thought at all , he asked me if I got wet when I was around my friends that were girls . I said no .
Another session he went into a discussion about what people do for a living when they grow up .
He suggested that people were meant to do certain things .Like that he was meant to be a Dr . that someone else was meant to be a lawyer , he also mentioned some people are meant to be prostitutes . I believe there was a connection between my decision to do this and that convo which was a longtime ago . I find him repulsive now actually as I feel he was planting a seed and subliminally that seed grew . He is still practicing in NY . I should go see him , or maybe he should come see me . Kendall Lynn
jerked off the minute I left the room . Miss K
That's all pretty messed up, KL. He really sounds like a rotten perv... and I say this as a guy that once paid a girl to wear a Santa's helper outfit and blow me.
Posted By: kendalllynn
I recall being very young and a bit wild , 15 maybe .
My parents brought me to a therapist because they thought I was not being a "good girl"
I saw this guy who my rents thought was brilliant , he was brilliant alrighty . [...] Kendall Lynn
What can I say? On the one hand, that's the most unprofessional and inappropriate behavior I've heard of by a therapist.
On the other hand, if he really got you into this business (which I doubt), God bless him! Put differently, I have no idea what brought you to this game, I'm just glad you're here.
And keep in mind that if you deconstruct the word "therapist" you get "the rapist." LOL! You can be my therapist any time. In fact, the sooner the better!
...and if you combine Analyst and Therapist? ANALRAPIST!
(Sorry to anyone not into Arrested Development).
Posted By: inicky46
What can I say? On the one hand, that's the most unprofessional and inappropriate behavior I've heard of by a therapist.
On the other hand, if he really got you into this business (which I doubt), God bless him! Put differently, I have no idea what brought you to this game, I'm just glad you're here.
And keep in mind that if you deconstruct the word "therapist" you get "the rapist." LOL! You can be my therapist any time. In fact, the sooner the better!
Did you post this because you know our "Miss K" is a renowned Greek Tour Guide? She is, in fact, highly skilled in this area.
I did not. But now I may have to plan a trip to Chicago.
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Yeah, I pieced that together a bit too late. Post is in the queue, apparently they don't trust me here yet. Wanna meet in Chicago? 
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Hah. I actually get to NY fairly regularly. Will look you up, doll. You sound like fun, weirdo pervy way-back-when shrink aside.
Posted By: kendalllynn
No silly boy
I have never been to Chicago . I do go to ct sometimes though and I am in NY all the time
Let me now if you ever get this far east
Miss K
Or NY. Whatever. Not sure how I got Chicago stuck in my head. Probably bc of Datecheck. Still may visit!
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It has a stigma, but so does eating a lot of shrooms and following a jam band around the country for three years. Doesn't mean young girls (and boys) avoid either.
The fact is they are not. After all I'm using an alias.
and I am only using an alias because using your real name is frowned on around here, not to mention fucking hookers, just like smoking weed or not fastening your seatbelt happens to be against the law. Of the three, the most dangerous happens to be not fastening your seatbelt, but I still don't need Big Brother telling me (forcing me) to do it.
So have you gone back to being "enigmatic" or just plain stupid and argumentative?
Are you ashamed of paying prostitutes for sex?
Posted By: GaGambler
and I am only using an alias because using your real name is frowned on around here, not to mention fucking hookers, just like smoking weed or not fastening your seatbelt happens to be against the law. Of the three, the most dangerous happens to be not fastening your seatbelt, but I still don't need Big Brother telling me (forcing me) to do it.
So have you gone back to being "enigmatic" or just plain stupid and argumentative?
Are you ashamed of paying prostitutes for sex?
if a high school chick is pondering being a hooker, she is not a little girl. that is what most mean when making the statement 'no little girl ever dreams of being a hooker.' a "little girl" does not know the reality of what being a hooker would involve, so she can't dream about it. after 14 many women today have already had sex. some even younger than that. i don't know any 8 year olds who have dreamed of being escorts. most are talking about the time in a kid's life when they are saying things like i want to be a movie star, a rock star, or an astronaut. that's too young of an age to know what this business is about.
it's funny the op finds this hot because of ego. i would find it more hot if the chick i am paying has ambition other than this and would wish her well.
I think the whole idea of being a hooker in this country is finally changing. I recent years the whole stigma of being a porn star has changed and in many circles it's become chic. I believe this is in the process of changing regarding hookers as well, viz. the new Internet series "Blue," among many others. I hope I'm right, not that everyone will start aspiring to becoming a hooker. Then again, I never aspired to become a doctor or a lawyer, lol!
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movie star, or rock star or even astronaut would really entail either.
Given the number of movie and rock stars that have difficult lives due to a number of issues I wouldn't want my kid going into either of those occupations any more than I would have wanted her to be a hooker.
I think that young kids watch and read media to develop ideas of what their future dreams may look like. And considering that there is quite a bit more today in mainstream media on prostitution it may indeed be something that a young kid may actually consider...especially if they see hooking as glamorous. And many times it is indeed portrayed as being just that. But media also portrays being an actor and rock star in similar portrayals.
But I agree that few if any 8 year olds have any real clue what the road to some profession will entail.
Posted By: toofuckingstupid
if a high school chick is pondering being a hooker, she is not a little girl. that is what most mean when making the statement 'no little girl ever dreams of being a hooker.' a "little girl" does not know the reality of what being a hooker would involve, so she can't dream about it. after 14 many women today have already had sex. some even younger than that. i don't know any 8 year olds who have dreamed of being escorts. most are talking about the time in a kid's life when they are saying things like i want to be a movie star, a rock star, or an astronaut. that's too young of an age to know what this business is about.
it's funny the op finds this hot because of ego. i would find it more hot if the chick i am paying has ambition other than this and would wish her well.
Even at 19 or 20, it’s easy to have an overly romanticized view of life, acting on impulse without comprehending the ramifications of our actions. Maturity, combined with the unvarnished stark truth of reality can lay bare just how foolish our choices can be. But life does not come with do-overs. We make our deal with Satan, and like countless young souls before us, naively think we were getting the better end of the bargain.
But life also teaches us that wallowing in regret is counter-productive. Learn the lesson and move on. We should play the cards before us, and do so to the best of our ability
I guess when I was young I never planned on being a divorced (happily I might add), half drunk (ok, fully drunk a lot of the time), gambling, quite immature whore monger in my fifties, but WTF I love my life and I wouldn't trade it for anyone else's that I know. Go figure. lol
That's like saying Socrates was a bartender.
Not so much a stretch. Most arts appeal to senses like sight and hearing. The courtesan (and what provider here is not one of those?) appeals to many senses, especially touch, and does it in sequence, as a musician would. As for bartenders, what about the one who said,
"Often a man will tell his bartender things he won't tell his doctor."
"A man either takes life as it comes and meets it head-on, or he turns his back, and starts to wither away. "
"We (doctors and bartenders) both get the same customers: the living and the dying.
I meant in the sense of the amount of dedication to detail, honing of innate ability, study of idiom in context & the history. The entry qualifications as dictated by society's whim are far more forgiving for one versus the other. I'm skewing to the qualitative definition.
An artist is rarified. Just about anyone can learn to pour a pretty good drink and be a fairly good lay. Sure there's exceptions in every craft, but being a craftsperson does not an artist make.
As for music, I understand the sensitivity and intimacy which goes into the truthful manipulation of an instrument with which to elicit artful sound.
It is a far cry from from putting a tune up on the speakers from the mp3 player, or being a DJ, etc..
Good point re: age. Totally agree. No 10 year old boy wants to be a dancer at "Thunder Down Under" either. It's just not part of the world yet. But you miss the point re what is a turn on for me. I love the "I'm gonna be a scientist!" stuff too. It's both sweet, and in some cases, real. I awesome either way. I love it. But I'm not talking about that.
My point was that being truly into NSA sex (and some girls seem to be, they're more like the average guy than a lot of folks think) is a plausible reason to enter the business, and a girl *actually being into it* is hot, whatever the reason for her actually being into it.
Most often the girl "actually being into" NSA, is because they have problems keeping relationships in their personal lives. So this is a good way to have sex and get paid. I would bet that given the opportunity to be able to have a healthy relationship, they would choose the route of happiness with someone they know will be there for them. If not right now, they will before long.
MM
this is about a career choice. fyi, not all women want a relationship either. there are women who don't want to be tied down to anyone or anything.
I'm NOT toofuckingstupid to know I've had this conversation before.
MM
First draft to harsh
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why the hostility. you are the one who started talking about relationships in a thread about the fucking hobby. no one said anything about a woman having to choose between the two. many providers have boyfriends and husbands and do this. many don't.
I'm not forcing my opinions on anyone. This is just a game, a fantasy world, the people here are not the same in real life. Right?
Truly not hostility, on my end anyway. Am I to take it that you read the original version?
MM
P.S. I knew you would catch that. Well placed bait. I've told you I'm not TOOfuckingstupid.
LMFAO
One more dumb comment in a long line of them. If you don't think being a hooker is a positive thing then what are you doing here? And I think you meant "stigma," not "stigmatism," unless you're referring to optics:
tigmatism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
See also: Astigmatism and Astigmatism (eye)
Look up stigmatism in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
In geometric optics, stigmatism refers to the image-formation property of an optical system which focuses a single point source in object space into a single point in image space. Two such points are called a stigmatic pair of the optical system. Many optical systems, even those exhibiting optical aberrations including astigmatism, have at least one stigmatic pair. Stigmatism is applicable only in the approximation provided by geometric optics. In reality, image formation is at best diffraction limited and point-like images are not possible.
Or if you put an "a" in front of it and you're an optician.
Thank you for once more doubling down on dumb.
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Did I say, I thought being a hooker was a negative thing? NO!
Stigmatism - 1. The condition of being affected by stigmata.
2. The state of a refracting or reflecting system in which light rays from a single point are accurately focused at another point.
3. Normal eyesight. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stigmatism
Stigmata - A plural of stigma. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stigmata
Posted By: inicky46
One more dumb comment in a long line of them. If you don't think being a hooker is a positive thing then what are you doing here? And I think you meant "stigma," not "stigmatism," unless you're referring to optics:
tigmatism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
See also: Astigmatism and Astigmatism (eye)
Look up stigmatism in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
In geometric optics, stigmatism refers to the image-formation property of an optical system which focuses a single point source in object space into a single point in image space. Two such points are called a stigmatic pair of the optical system. Many optical systems, even those exhibiting optical aberrations including astigmatism, have at least one stigmatic pair. Stigmatism is applicable only in the approximation provided by geometric optics. In reality, image formation is at best diffraction limited and point-like images are not possible.
Or if you put an "a" in front of it and you're an optician.
Thank you for once more doubling down on dumb.
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I knew you'd try to weasel out of a judgmental comment like that. As someone pointed out above, this is a fuckboard, where hookers and johns congregate, so talking about "stigmatism" here is pretty stupid.
And thanks for your definitions. Are you trying to say you actually intended to use "stagmatism" instead of "stigma?"
Sorry, vern, but this clip applies directly to you.
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What you claim to be judgement call, is the consensus opinion of mainstream America. I came to this conclusion by reading posts on this very board, it's been said by many on here.
Wich I do not agree with. I was using this consensus opinion to argue the point. How common is it for an adolescent female, to look at prostitution as future career endeavour. I never injected my opinion into what I said.
"Stigma" "Stigmata" "Stigmatism" "The Stig" I think they all nean the same thing.
THIS is The Stig. The Stig Rules
do not kid yourself..all these ladies have a " lifetime plan "...escorting is but a small part of it..they know their goals and how to achieve them..no one ever said these girls were dumb..
Posted By: Banking
Had a session recently. She's young. Says 21, and could really be 21. During chit-chat, she wanted to talk about her future and plans after this "crazy time in her life," but also wanted to talk about getting into the business. i wasn't pushing it, but was interested, so didn't derail the conversation. She said she started working the second she could, having moved out right after high school, and had been fantasizing about it for a couple of years before that.
Here's my point: people throw out "no kid ever wanted to grow up to be a hooker" a lot, but a least for a few girls, I think that they do. It's a fantasy world. Maybe not forever, but for a few years. For what it's worth, I found the whole situation pretty hot, as it gave me a plausible reason to believe she was into what we were doing. So yeah, maybe she's great at reading people and feeding me what i wanted to hear, but i didn't get that feeling. I'm going with NSA nympho who had been fantasizing about this role for years.
Providers, any of you see it this way? Is this more common than guys think?
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Watching 'Pretty Woman' when I was 9 (I know, how cliche) and wanting to be a hooker. But I didn't understand what a hooker really did, or why men really desired a pretty woman. In short, I didn't get that Richard Gere was supposed to stick it to her. My friend tried to explain that she 'sold her body' but I just thought that she 'sold' it to men to spend time with them and let them look at her
But eventually, I wanted to be a hooker even when I knew what a hooker did. But I was basing that on MY idea of being a hooker, rather than the reality. When I started, I thought I'd be seeing a few really rich, polite guys who'd take me shopping at Saks and fly me to Paris That I'd buy stocks and save, and live happily ever after. That actually was true for about a month (except the trip to Paris). Unfortunately 2008 was just not the right time for that market. So I had to be a little creative in where/how I worked. I worked for two pretty crappy TER agencies, as well as a bunch of UTR people, and so I experienced things I'd never anticipated. Coke dick, coke + viagra dick, nasty assholes, nasty asshole clients, clients who won't give you a 10 unless you do ____[insert nasty thing here and I don't mean Greek]______.
Anyway, in the abstract, and considering the ideal/illusion, it sounds like a great idea. And there is a way to get yourself to a really good place in this business, but that takes WORK and PATIENCE. The average reality...some 70-year old guy telling you that you have to lick his butthole and BBFS him for a 10, another girl telling you, 'oh, so and so has helped my business so much, he'll introduce you to all of his friends...(read: give him a free session and his friends a hefty discount, and you get pages of 10s but you HAVE to do greek and possibly some other scary fetishes)', the idea of holing up in a hotel room incall all day and seeing one jerk after another, coke dick for 6 straight hours...nobody pictures these things when they consider being a hooker. Of course there's a much better, classier way of doing things, but to get there isn't always so easy. The money won't come as fast (at least not at first). It takes foresight, intelligence, patience, standards, self-esteem, and greed ONLY in moderation. Some girls go about their business in exactly that manner, but most do not
he ever increasing cost of education, plus the desire for financial independence, plus many, many other reasons that are none of our business, probably mean that more women are considering work as a provider.
As long as they have a clear idea of what they will and will not do, how they wish to 'market' themselves and a clear exit strategy it's their decision. While I have never discussed this as a career option with any woman I've met some have been happy to tell me why they are doing it, the variety of reasons are fascinating.
One unfortunate aspect of this is that the skills the women develop, personal management, interpersonal relationship management, financial and logistical skills for those who tour, will never be useful on a resume. No matter if society becomes more liberal with regard to this industry or tries to crush it the women involved would still be left with the social stigma of being a sex worker.
I fully support any woman who enters this industry of her own choice, knowing that there is always a risk that it will be used against her in later life. Sadly we're a long way off from a world where a former provider can honestly include her period working on a resume along with all her other skills and experience and not be discriminated against.
I wish the young lady you met well in all her future endeavours
